Jason Motte, Meet Grant Balfour
I think all Cardinals fans can say that they were excited by Jason Motte's debut last season with the Birds on Bat. It is not every day that you see such raw cheese being tossed by a pitcher, let alone one that suits up for Dave Duncan's Pitch to Contact Army. He and Chris Perez look like they could be a two-headed relief monster for years. However, the biggest knock on Mr. Motte has always been the fact that he really only throws one pitch: that upper-90's fastball.
While watching the Rays dramatic rise through the playoffs, one figure in their bullpen really caught my eye: Grant Balfour. Balfour is sort of a wiry bloke from the Land Down-Under (I wonder if that is his warm up song? Maybe it should be!) who has the arm that allows him to throw a strawberry through a freight train and the brain that makes him try to do it on every single pitch. Fun guy to watch, for sure.
I know I can't be the only person who saw similarities between these two...so let's take a look...
How did these guys get here?
Grant Balfour made his major league debut in 2001 with the Twins. His 2.2 innings there did not go well, recording as many bombs as K's (2 of each). He popped back in with the Twins for 26 innings in '03 and 39.1 more in '04. He walked a lot of guys (35), but also struck out a bunch too (72). He wasn't terrible, but I'm sure his propensity to walk guys drove managers nuts and made it difficult to toss him out there in relief appearances with much confidence. He then got hurt, played in the Reds and Brewers organizations, and continued his anti-Sonnanstine ways by walking and K'ing a whole bunch of hitters. He reappeared in majors with the Brewers in 2007 after shredding AAA (a 2.11 FIP and 4.27 K/BB ratio), but was DFA'd and traded to Tampa Bay for Seth McClung that same season. His overall 2007 didn't seem much different from the rest of his career...lots of K's, lots of walks. Once again, his FIP wasn't bad, but when you walk a bunch of dudes it's kind of hard to put you into the game as a reliever. Let's just say that the nickname "Ball-Four" Balfour fit.
I think we all know how his 2008 season went, however. He was simply brilliant. Glancing at his numbers, the biggest key to his success was a dramatic decrease in his walks. He was still walking 3.7 hitters/9, however that was a massive improvement for him compared to his career major league numbers. His K/BB ratio was 3.42 and he posted a 2.22 FIP to go witih a nifty 1.54 ERA. His K numbers were astounding, as they'd always been, recording 82 K's in 58.1 innings pitched. His playoff performance wasn't great, as he walked 8 guys in 8.2 innings and gave up 2 home runs. However, his brilliance during the season was a big part of the Rays success. If he maintains low walk-rates, he should expect to be a pretty solid set-up guy and spot-closer from here on out.
Motte's story is better known around these parts, so I'll be more brief (insert sounds of readers applauding). Basically he didn't hit much as a catcher, so they converted his live arm to the mound and it's been pretty successful to this point. He's shown okay-to-very good control and a live fastball in the upper-90's. A slider became his second pitch, but wasn't much of one. As our very own azruavatar noted on July 21st, it doesn't move too terribly much horizontally. He made his major league debut on September 3rd against Arizona and compiled an 0.82 ERA and 1.04 FIP over 11 innings. His K/BB numbers were 16/3.
Are they really that similar?
The first question in any comparison is this question: are you comparing apples to apples, apples to some other kind of fruit, like a pomegranate or something? To answer this, I looked at fangraph's pitch-type data for both Balfour and Motte. There is a caveat that Balfour's data is based on a small sample of his total pitches, but I can't imagine that his pitching style is all that different over the course of a season. Here are the links, as I am quite dumb and can't seem to make a functional table:
As you can see, they both throw a ton of fastballs. Balfour uses his at a slightly higher percentage (91.3 percent compared to 89.4), but for all intents and purposes they are basically fastball specialists. Motte's is harder at 96.6 mph on average, compared to 94.6 for Balfour. Motte also uses his main secondary pitch, a slider, at a higher percentage than Balfour does. Both use a third pitch (splitter for Motte and deuce for Balfour) sparingly. Also, given that neither's secondary offering is particularly good, it is fair to say that these guys are pretty similar pitchers. Both are apples, and neither is a pomegranate.
Where do these guys go from here?
Balfour is an interesting case. The BB rates he posted last year were the best of his Major League career by quite a bit, although he posted similar rates in the minors in 2007. He was also a bit lucky in the BABIP category, but unlucky in 2007, which may have also hurt his cause that season. This is his BABIP graph if anyone is curious. I think from a development standpoint, the almost-31 year old Aussie is pretty much what he's going to be at this point. The guy throws chedd, but also has a nasty history of walking people and other command issues. If he should revert back to that dude, then it could get ugly again. He's a one-pitch guy, and if that one pitch should elude him than he's up a certain creek. However, that is one pretty good pitch. Teams had to know that was what he was coming with, and yet no one could do much about it this season.
Motte seems to be the same pitcher as Balfour at this point. He's developed into what Balfour is, if that makes any sense at all. He basically has two options from this point on: stick to that one pitch with a show-me slider and improve the command of that electic fastball, or develop that slider more. He throws the slider very hard (88 according to FanGraphs' data), so that counts for something. However, it's a pretty straight pitch. That won't work so well as a true-second offering. If that pitch develops into a viable second-pitch, however, than Motte should be a pretty tough guy to hit. If not, then he'll be like Balfour is now...totally reliant on his ability to command his overpowering fastball.
Sources
Here are these two flamethrowers' profiles at fangraphs.com. That is a great resource, and if you haven't checked it out (which I doubt for most VEB members) it is a true treasure-chest of data.
I was also a bit unsure of some of the background info on Balfour, so I went to the source of all that is true and verified and peer-reviewed...Wikipedia. I just failed in life and should return my history degree as of 26 minutes ago, the exact point at which most people probably bailed on this behemoth of a post.
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That was a good analysis
But I think that the fact that Motte clearly has so much better command of his fastball and the fact that it is harder makes him better than Balfour right now. If you are throwing 98-100 on every pitch and it is usally a strike, you are not going to get hit a lot, nor will you walk a lot of hitters. If Motte developes a knockout slider than he could be one of the best releivers in the game. However if he continues to roll with the fastball and puts up a great k/bb ratio, then he will still be very good.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2008 7:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah
as long as he can place that fastball with accuracy, he may not need an amazing second pitch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Dec 15, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Balfour already was one of the best relievers in the game in ‘08, I’m not sure we can be calling Motte better just yet.
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by joker24 on Dec 16, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
>>Motte seems to be the same pitcher as Balfour at this point.<<
I would say that Motte is the same pitcher as Balfour in 2008, not the Balfour who wore a Twins uni. Why? Motte’s always had great control. That the difference between he and Balfour … and a few miles per hour on the FB which is important.
by jjray on Dec 15, 2008 8:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Motte and Jonathan Broxton
They’re both big, ugly, fastball-reliant guys. They both throw similar speeds, and although Motte doesn’t have the same break on his slider, i’d say Broxton could be his ceiling.
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by hazel on Dec 15, 2008 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I did think of Broxton while...
…preparing this post.
What is scary about Broxton to me is how huge the man really is. B-ref lists him at 240 pounds…Upon which I call B.S. The dude can throw pure gas.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 16, 2008 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Broxton is even substantially larger than Motte.
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by hazel on Dec 16, 2008 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and 2 years younger
lol.
they can't play baseball, they don't wear sweaters, they're not good dancers, they don't play drums
by SleepyCA on Dec 16, 2008 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't we take a look at BB/9 rates?
Balfour:
2001:10.13
2003: 4.85
2004: 4.81
2006: 6.00
2007: 4.63
2008: 3.77
Motte
2006: 1.62
2007: 3.50
2008: 3.34
Motte has never posted a bb/9 rate as high as Balfour’s best year (2008). Given that you repeated point out that Balfour has regularly struggled w/ his walk rate, I think this shows that while he and Motte may be almost exclusive fastball pitchers, Motte has excellent controll compared to Balfour.
I see the similarities, and I think it’s very much worth comparing Motte to other fastball only pitchers, but I think there’s a lot of limitations to this comparison.
I would also caution drawing any firm conclusions about Motte’s FB rate, since the stats here are only from his dozen or so innings in MLB this year. That sample size is too small.
by tom s. on Dec 16, 2008 12:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That is true on sample size...
…it is a point I should have made, or at least brought up. Thank you for pointing that out.
I also noted that Motte’s control was right about where Balfour’s is at this point in their respective careers. I probably could have made that more clear though. That will be a huge factor in Motte’s development as a pitcher (assuming that slider doesn’t improve), and has always been the thing that held Balfour back.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 16, 2008 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't this tiny BB/9,
speak to the fact that Motte is a converted catcher? He’s been taught since forever that he needs to throw fast, hard, and deadly accurate.
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by hazel on Dec 16, 2008 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Motte > Balfour
I’d say that Motte is a slightly better pitcher than Balfour, for this reason alone: potential.
Motte is 26 years old and has only been pitching for three seasons.
Balfour is 30 years old and has been pitching professional ball for since 1997…or 11 seasons.
When Motte is 30 years old, he will have only been pitching for 7 seasons and has much more mileage left on his arm AND will have had only 4 years in the majors…yet at this moment they’re about even.
by stlfan on Dec 16, 2008 9:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think...
…Motte’s eventual success will be tied to his usage. I don’t think he can be considered closer material unless he dramatically improves a secondary pitch. That said…there are a lot of hitters in the majors that just won’t be able to handle his heater.
Given their reputation for preparation, I hope that Tony and Dave do the research necessary to leverage Motte into the situations in which he is most likely to succeed.
by sabertooth5185 on Dec 16, 2008 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Side note
Balfour really does have a really thick Aussie accent, so the next time you see a highlight of him screaming around or chattering at a batter think of it as being in Aussie it’s much more entertaining.
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by joker24 on Dec 16, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Accent
I remember seeing him do an interview after the brouhaha with Orlando Cabrera, and I was stunned. I knew he was Australian, but that guy definately “tawks Strine.” (say it out-loud) Good stuff.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 16, 2008 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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