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600 words about Jason LaRue

Jason LaRue, one year, $950,000. Backup catcher occupational hazard: sometimes the article about you being resigned will have someone else's picture on the top. Mostly I've had the usual well-okay backup catcher response, but there is a fussy part of me—the part that, in its even-more-pedantic moments, wants to mutter "but that's completely implausible" during romantic comedies—that gets really angry at backup catcher signings like this. If I were to let it out this is what it would say:

When was the last time the Cardinals had a backup catcher for whom anything but the very bottom of the production barrel could have been expected? Let me tell you: Yadier Molina, 2004, and Cody McKay was the guy who started the year in that role. He would've stayed in that role if the Cardinals hadn't had a catching prospect and an injured starter. Before that you've got the nebulous years before Eli Marrero became less a catcher and more an outfielder. It's not a good list.

But for the last five years, counting 2009 in advance, the Cardinals have insisted on signing a genuine Major League veteran to play this role. There was LaRue, coming off a 33 OPS+; Bennett, who managed to put up a rare Coors-inflated .668 OPS; and before that Einar Diaz, who managed to hit a home run in 2005 despite having, as far as I can remember, never once hit a ball during his tenure as a Cardinal. None of these players proved especially capable with the glove, either, except in that general way that all catchers who can't hit are regarded as extremely subtle defensive whizzes. It's just that the Cardinals have, whenever they've gotten the chance, become a self-styled pension plan for backup catchers past their expiration dates. 

In these days of big, oft-utilized bullpens the backup catcher has become, by end-of-the-bench attrition, the least important player on the team. And I guess there's something to be said for not worrying too much about a guy who is always going to be a lineup card surprise. But if you're going to do that why not just renew Mark Johnson's backup catcher union card for free instead of paying retail on Lash LaRue, who seems likely to regress even further in 2009? The extra $450,000 can be spent on a mustache-grooming apparatus for the rest of the team, or cashed out in quarters and melted down to make Albert Pujols an enormous dugout throne.

If you're going to bother signing a backup catcher above the minimum, why not sign one who might make the team better? The LaRue signing was an attempt at improvement, if not a perfect one; he hit pretty well while he was a starter, and his batting average collapse had occurred in limited playing time. (And for a backup catcher he wasn't even all that bad this year, terrifyingly enough; take a look at the non-starters on this list, and then buy your son a catcher's mitt and a beard trimmer.) But the next Gregg Zaun has to be out there somewhere, right? I'd rather see fliers on guys like J.R. House than the yearly sub-$1 million burnt offering to the hard-nosed gods, is all. 

If runs were your budget, signing (or promoting) a backup catcher who might not hit like a pitcher wouldn't exactly be a multi-million dollar inheritance. But if the girl at Starbucks gave you a dollar every time you bought coffee it would add up. 

Anyway, that's what the part of me that's fussy about backup catchers would say. He gets most vocal on slow Mondays in November and just after 60 Minutes, when his idol Andy Rooney's monologue ends and the world's niggling non-issues manifest themselves to him in their full, glorious irritation.

Meanwhile, of course, the perfect-world answer to this question is sitting in AAA limbo, stuck in a million different contingencies. Do you call Bryan Anderson up as a backup, despite his unfinished fielding and narrow hitting skill-set? Does doing so potentially damage his future value, both real and for trade purposes? Personally I don't think it will be an issue—he just doesn't seem to be in the Cardinals' plans, and I'd be a little surprised if he began 2009 in a Redbird uniform, be it Memphis or St. Louis. But I'd be open to the idea.

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I think that was north of 700 words.

You’re spoiling us.

I love the unsubtle jab at the Bryan Anderson supporters that Strauss has in the article about them (us?) being disappointed. He remains, above all else, hugely skeptical of the farm system.

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2008 9:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

as he should be

at least in anderson’s case, he’s still so young, and looks to be a quicker 2008 yadi with worse defensive skills, (decent ba, better footspeed, low slug., less of a glove)

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by AdjustedExpectations on Nov 3, 2008 10:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

kinda sounds like what yadi’s skillset was when he served as backup.

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i thought Yadda was always a superior defensive catcher,

and couldn’t hit very well? isn’t that the opposite of Anderson?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Nov 3, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Matheny was probably better than him that first year

Molina’s still not as good at grabbing balls out of the dirt.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No one was as good as Matheny

It was like trying to throw against a big fluffy pillow.

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist

by joker24 on Nov 4, 2008 8:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

this line is dedicated to '09

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 3, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

better footspeed

it would nice to have a catcher with a little speed. then when we pinch run for yadi in the ninth we won’t have to waste a position player.

"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy

by FutureMan on Nov 3, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

who would that be?

Someone compiled most career stolen bases. Kendall, Pudge, Ausmus.

Any minor leaguers of interest?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2008 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rotate Anderson up and down

I would have liked us to sign a vet amenable to playing some in AAA (or just use Mark Johnson for this). Then rotate Anderson up and down every 15 days or so. It gives Anderson MLB exposure (upping his value), allows him to get playing time while in AAA, and still gives the nervous duo of LaDunc their veteran catcher presence there on the bench. Why bother doing that? Because if Anderson is still on the team and Yaddi goes down, I want to see Anderson take over for however long Yaddi is on the DL. That won’t happen with TLR unless the kid gets some big league exposure prior to the emergency. Chances are Yaddi goes down for some period in 2009. One has to admit that.

… one other thing, LaRue has horrible mechanics behind the plate.

by jjray on Nov 3, 2008 9:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

is his contract guaranteed?

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Nov 3, 2008 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LaRue is not that bad for the team

LaRue seems like a good guy to have around. It looks like he gives 100% all the time and the pitchers seem to like him. The team was able to put him in the line up without having to worry about not getting max effort. I believe that this helped Yadi have the year that he had.

by CJW on Nov 3, 2008 9:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like LaRue

as far as backup catchers go, but I’ve never seen a backup catcher who wasn’t giving 100% all the time and wasn’t liked by the pitchers. I think that sort of thing is either overrated or widely available among catchers who have to work hard and earn a job every year.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 3, 2008 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's 2

"I’ve never seen a backup catcher who wasn’t giving 100% all the time and wasn’t liked by the pitchers. "

Einar Diaz
Michael Barrett

by Hal Lanier's Pants on Nov 3, 2008 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

barrett sure

although he was a headcase long before he was a backup catcher. Einar just seemed to really, really suck. I never doubted his resolve, just his eyesight, and his footwork, and the pronunciation of his name.

by DanUpBaby on Nov 3, 2008 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Kind of amazing the guy played in over 100 games for the Indians 4 times, huh? Also amazing he played a “role” on a 100 win team. Maybe that is some indication of the importance (or lack therof) of a back-up catcher when you have someone as good as Molina…

by Hal Lanier's Pants on Nov 3, 2008 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

m. johnsom refused his outright to aaa (10-23-2008)

and became a FA. stlcardinals.com

since the org has the larue type resigning continuously filling a roster spot, they could reinforce the utility corner infield (3b/1b/c) with a j. diamaco (ari/lhb) type trade, and quit carrying 2 utility middle infielders. the backup catcher would have a pinch hitter (3b type bat) in place as the third catcher, and the bench has a backup 3b for the season. adding pop over a ryan/barden type middle infielder.

by ball in play on Nov 3, 2008 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

m johnson

… will almost assuredly be without an MLB job come the end of spring training.

by jjray on Nov 3, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

srry guy, botched your name. my bad. jamie d’ antona.

by ball in play on Nov 3, 2008 10:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I like it.

I like the fact that he’s a quiet foundation that is drama free for the pitchers.

I like the fact that we have a catcher who’s behind the plate for a second season with the pitchers we have, giving them some consistency.

I like the fact that the backup catcher we have (and I’ll disagree on the above) is solid defensively, has a cannon of an arm (which makes up for his reaction time) and still carries a solid CS percentage.

I like the fact that it’ll (pending staying with the Cards) give Anderson more development time. He is very young, it’s not going to crush his value, and it’s going to protect his arb clock should he have a boom year. I also like the fact that he’ll get regular playing time instead of a bench role.

I like the fact that both times Yadi went down he posted up solid numbers (when Yadi’s head was in question, he had around a .900 OPS), is it small sample size? Sure.

I like the fact he’s cheap and the fact he doesn’t take shit off of anyone – as he shown this year.

Can’t complain about the price, length of contract or the player involved. Personally.

Cardinals Project 2009 - Ensure 100 More Years

by AdjustedExpectations on Nov 3, 2008 10:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree on all points...

and at one time he was a solid hitter, and still has some pop in his bat. I fully expected Lastache to be back, and am glad he is.

by cardzfanbub on Nov 3, 2008 10:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree on all points.

And I just like to add. Yadi has spent time on the DL the last two years. Im going to go out on a limb and say that at some point either LaRue or Yadi is going to miss time. And our third Catcher will find his way into the Cardinals lineup at some point this year.

I’d rather not see Yadi go down, Anderson take over full time and the the club scrambling for another back up catcher. Next thing you knowKelly Stinnett will be back recieving pitches.

Let Anderson get his Lion’s share of playing time in AAA. (Correct me if im wrong, but he started in AA last year? So he doesn’t even have a full AAA season under him.) And have him on tap incase anything comes up.

Depth at cacther is a good time. And a 1 mil/1 year contract does not block a guy who will be 24 at the start of the season. Excpesially a 24 year old who put up a higher OPS than Rasmus.

by Evilfrog on Nov 3, 2008 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah

he came up with Todd to AAA if I recall correctly (sometime just after all-star break)

Cardinals Project 2009 - Ensure 100 More Years

by AdjustedExpectations on Nov 3, 2008 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and anderson is only 21 (22 in dec) iirc

Cardinals Project 2009 - Ensure 100 More Years

by AdjustedExpectations on Nov 3, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you know.

That’s what I thought. I went over to Memphis redbirds to check. And I could have sworn it said he was born in 1984. I just double checked and it says 1986. So…yeah. There you have it.

by Evilfrog on Nov 3, 2008 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

at least it was a player's birth year

i woke up and thought the clock said 8.30, it was 5.30. Gonna feel it all damn day.

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by AdjustedExpectations on Nov 3, 2008 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anderson came up to AAA at the beginning of May

he only spent April in AA. He spit time with mark Johnson in AAA receiving only 277 ABs during 4 months.

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I’m not surprised by the Larue signing, he did a good enough job, he’s been around a while so he’s not going to play for beans ($950,000 might be a little overpaying, but not that much), he’s probably a good leader in the clubhouse, and who knows, maybe he and Lohse are pals.

this line is dedicated to '09

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 3, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

I’m okay with LaRue. He’s better than Einar Diaz, who very well may have been the worst player to play for the Cardinals recently. I laughed remarkably hard at this:

Einar Diaz, who managed to hit a home run in 2005 despite having, as far as I can remember, never once hit a ball during his tenure as a Cardinal.

Hell, Diaz didn’t even have that “magic touch”** that career backup catchers seem to have.

I swear though, the pitch-back is the way to go for backup catchers.

**I don’t believe this is real, I think it is some kind of strange excuse that managers/coaches/GM’s use to justify having an awful player on their 25 man roster because, well, you really do need a backup catcher and catching is pretty g-darn tough. My point here is that Diaz, if I recall correctly, was somewhat aggravating to throw to. I don’t know though.

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 3, 2008 10:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I seem to remember pitchers doing noticably worse while throwing to Einar Diaz

mabye it was just me noticably being annoyed that he was playing.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2008 10:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

2005 OPS-against splits: yadi .701, Einar .771, mahoney .703

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Nov 3, 2008 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Since LarRue was decent

at hitting when he played everyday while Yadi was hurt, I don’t see why he is a bad signing. Our pitchers know him, he has a good arm when it comes to catching base stealers, and he isn’t expensive. The 500-600k you could save by signing someone else with similar talent is next to worthless from the perspective of a $100M payroll. I think resigning him was smart.

Two goldfish are in a tank. One of them turns to the other and says, "You man the guns, I'll drive!"

by thegodfather on Nov 3, 2008 11:56 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Larussa has a clear preference...

for backup catchers who don’t hit. It’s all part of having Tony around. Actually, he doesn’t like starting catchers that hit much, either.

Compared to previous years, I kind of like it. Normally, I worry about what happens if our catcher goes out for a few months and we have a weak backup. But now, I’d hope that if Molina is lost for a few months late in the year, they’d try Anderson out, who could use the PT. A better veteran might keep that from happening, causing Anderson to come up and sit while the backup started every day.

Larue was really pretty marginal (OK, he is good at stopping the running game, which would be handy if we played in a SB-heavy era, and we don’t). But he seems to get along with everyone, which is handy in a backup catcher.

by tarakas on Nov 3, 2008 12:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

cashed out in quarters and melted down to make Albert Pujols an enormous dugout throne.



Crap DanUp, thanks for the laugh.

by rlgosnell on Nov 3, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

that was awesome…

this line is dedicated to '09

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 3, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agree on injuries

Both catchers are guys who bear down and take the hits = more injuries. And apparently our division is rife with players who are happy to oblige them. Makes it difficult to construct a proper dartboard, if you ask me.

Not much intelligent to add, other than
1. Is former catcher Duncan an x-factor in this? Maybe it’s not necessarily TLR calling this one, but the fellow deploying the game plans.

2. Someone’s gotta go hunting with the bullpen.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They are not

“guys who bear down and take the hits”

Actually, no they don’t. If you watch closely on home plate collisions where they are facing up the third base line, both guys start falling away from the runner as he comes home. This is very smart. There’s no reason to dig in and try and stop the runner’s progress. This isn’t football. All you have to do is get the tag on him before he touches the plate. So, Yadi and ’stache fall away from the runner while tagging him. Much less potential for injury when you let the energy from the runner sort of go through you rather than try and absorb it.

by Hal Lanier's Pants on Nov 3, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

larue forces the runner to stay in the basepath and uses a 2 handed tag, from foul territory.
yadi uses a blind tag or blind backhand tag, w/one hand, from fair territory.
there’s no advantage to turning your back to the baserunner, or interrupting the balls flight before it reaches the basepath.
from the moment yadi steps onto fair territory, for a ball thrown in from centerfield or right field, he has his back to the play.
a concussion waiting to happen, by his lack of proper footwork.

by ball in play on Nov 3, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

I need to rewatch tape … I’m crap at describing what I’m seeing. But that’s what I mean. I’m not seeing a lot of tags where there’s a transfer of energy and everyone goes flying. I’m seeing a lot of tags where both yadi and larue are blocking the plate with most of their bodies.

this may have tons to do with the kind of throws they get. it may be that those kinds of blocks are the only ones possible if they want a successful play at the plate.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2008 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Free agent projections over at MLBTR...

Tim makes his picks…has the Cards signing Renteria and Hudson on the MIF…I don’t see any way they sign both, and unless OHud is signed for a lot cheaper deal than I think he’ll get I hope he is somebody elses problem. Also has us picking up Marte for LH relief. I’m okay with the thought…but he’ll be overpaid.

by cardzfanbub on Nov 3, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Aren't they all type A FA

so we would lose our #1 draft pick right

by bearcatcardfan on Nov 4, 2008 12:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just read that LaRue interview,

and I am now the founder of the Jason LaRue Pornstashe fan club.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Nov 3, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Hairston Jr

What’s you guys thought on this guy? He had a great 2008 putting up a .868 OPS while playing CF,SS, and 2B with a decent glove. He seems like a utility guy that finally broke through. Not sure if he is worth risk or not. Seems better than Lopez though. The only thing that stands out in his numbers is high Line Drive % of 26%.

by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 3, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LaRue is a hall of famer

compared to Rich Gedman, Hector Villaneuva, Scott Hemond, et al, in the good old days before LaRussa showed up. If the Cardinals weren’t bringing back Gedman and his 0.100 batting average for a second year (in the immortal words of Dal Maxvill, “Gedman may have only hit 0.100, but he works hard and runs out every ground ball.”), they were keeping two of those guys on the roster so they could start one of them at first base and still have one on the bench.

Mike

by juggler on Nov 3, 2008 4:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can we just strike the period between 1990 and 1995 from the record

and just say “Ozzie was great, Tewksberry had an awesome season, and Ray Lankford was the most underappreciated player in baseball”

And forget that anything else happened? I’d help my sanity.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2008 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i always loved rayray

beyond the box score has a “ray lankford wing of the hall of fame” for players who have no chance of making it in but still had awesome careers.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2008 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The end of an era?

I haven’t seen this bit of information on here yet today, so I thought I would pass on the news that the Kelvin Jimenez era seems to be over

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

fanclub newsletter?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2008 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy pitching to the Yankees and Red Sox in the skydome, Kelvin

and you thought the Pirates had soem tough outs…

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2008 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

I posted the same thing at FR before reading this comment. (Scouts’ honor)

I didn’t know my ESP was so functional today.

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

That’s the best news of this off season so far.

by Evilfrog on Nov 3, 2008 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TLR wanted to manage Seattle in 2008

according to Duff.

So I guess they turned him down and he opted to return to St. Louis instead.

This makes no sense to me whatsoever.

"I'm as nauseous as I've ever been. I have a terrible headache. My head is pounding. I feel like throwing up and I'm having trouble swallowing. And the beauty of it is, you want to feel like this every day." - Tony LaRussa

by adiueordie on Nov 3, 2008 7:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Never in a million years

would I have thought Tony LaRussa and Duff McKagen would have a conversation about baseball.

What’s next …Mo is going to ask Slash who the Cards should pick up for our SS at the winter meetings while they both sit in a back room smoking and drinking Jack.

We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

by KYCards on Nov 4, 2008 2:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Job DanUpBaby

I never thought I would see such intelligent analysis regarding a back-up catcher. Thank You. My 2 cents to follow but first a few caveats.

1) I thought, in general, that Lash did a decent job in 08
2) I expected Lash to be re-signed and didn’t think twice about the news release

With that said, you – DanUp – make some excellent points, as one needs to when writing in early Nov. The fact that you could do so on the subject of back-up catcher is testimony to your analytical and writing skills. Thank you. I was wondering who would step up in lboros departure.

Here’s one – from the gut – to add to your thoughts. In considering roster construction each off season (nearly as fun as action on the field), I have noticed that great consideration should be given to TLR “favorites”. Now we know the Pujols of the world will all make this list but observing over the course of the season we all notice many other TLR favorites.

Lash tops the list so his re-signing could be predicted. We can probably also throw in Miles. Looper, F Lopez, Izzy, Ankiel and a few others. Others, on the other end of the TLR scale, like Ryan and A Reyes can check their ticket to Siberia.

Certainly a HOF mgr merits power and respect of opinion but your analysis of LaRue makes a great sub-point.

And………….makes me wonder of the unspoken power of TLR

And……….makes we think it may be time for another Conversation With Mo

thanks for a great post

by Hinkster on Nov 3, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's always a good time for a conversation with mo

he’s been sorely missed.

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Nov 3, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is the consensus then that Anderson will be dealt and dealt soon. Yadi is one foul tip away from the DL

at the best of times.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Nov 3, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

as far as i can tell

the consensus is everyone has an opinion about him, but the gm hasn’t said shit.

that would lead me to believe that there isn’t any actual news about him (let alone educated speculation or, god forbid, inside information.)

did anyone actually think he might be the backup catcher next year? i did, probably about 6 months or so ago, but now its pretty obvious that isn’t an option.

there’s nothing wrong with a 21/22 year old catching prospect spending a year at AAA. everyone should come to terms with that, as i have.

his 235 at bats in memphis, which resulted in a 1.4 K/BB and a line of .281/.367/.379 don’t scream “major league ready” to me.

"I'm as nauseous as I've ever been. I have a terrible headache. My head is pounding. I feel like throwing up and I'm having trouble swallowing. And the beauty of it is, you want to feel like this every day." - Tony LaRussa

by adiueordie on Nov 3, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, they kind of rushed Molina to the majors

and they were very high on his bat while he was a minor leaguer. Perhaps, they are being more cautious with Anderson this go around.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2008 11:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A very interesting point, Val.

I wouldn’t have thought about that, but it makes sense.

by cardsgirl95 on Nov 4, 2008 7:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember them talking that way at the time

But his minor league numbers read, .278 .335 .368—-pretty much what you’d expect given his major league line.

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist

by joker24 on Nov 4, 2008 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lots of cash

i have to agree that is a ton of cash for larue, but i would prefer to see anderson hone his skills in Memphis. if he is truly the prospect everyone is saying he is, then he can get even better down there which will give us the flexibility to trade him or possibly trade yadi. good news is that we could still keep larue, maybe at a $1.5m as he mentors anderson

by Numero Uno Birdos on Nov 3, 2008 11:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So we DID have SF next firstbasemen on our roster....he was just right handed

Josh Phelps has been signed by the Giants, I saw it on Beyond the Box Score

by StLHugo on Nov 4, 2008 8:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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