Recruiting Free Agents
River Ave. Blues and Brew Crew Ball (links can be found at MLB Trade Rumors) bring up very interesting comparisons between the offers made by the brewers and yankees to C.C. Sabathia. They contrast the differences between living in the two cities, they allow for inflation and the cost of living. The personal preferences of the player, the tax differences between the two cities, the projected market value of his next free agency and the structure of the contract itself are among the aspects each discusses. Both draw the conclusion that the offers of the two teams are very similar. I did see one major omission though, neither considered the value of New York's big stage. For instance, how much does the average yankee receive for a local commercial endorsement compared to a brewer in Milwaukee? And why even bring this up on a cardinals blog?
This can pertain to our team as well. How often do we consider ALL the aspects of recruiting a free agent? And how effectively do both the team and the fans sell St. Louis? Not that I am making any suggestions, but did any fans do anything to make Trevor Miller welcome during his recent visit? Did he meet Stan the Man? Lou or Ozzie? As you see, there are so many factors involved in recruiting a free agent. I'm grateful to those blogs previously mentioned for opening my mind to much more, yet important miniscule implications. They also raised the question as to how much is considered by the team and player and agent. I thought it might make for some good discussion here at VEB.
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Baseball Endorsements are Modest at Best
Its late, but you raised a subject I was a little curious about. The truth is, baseball players by and large do NOT make out like bandits with endorsements. Consider the “Fortunate 50” as identified by Sports Illustrated.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/specials/fortunate50/index.html
You’ll find of the top 50 pro athletes in the US today, 10 are from baseball. These players are in order of endorsement moolah:
1. Derek Jeter (NY) $8,000,000
2. Alex Rodriguez (NY) $6,000,000
3. Albert Pujols (STL) $3,500,000
4. Manny Ramirez (TBD) $2,500,000
5. Jason Giambi (NY) $500,000
6. Torii Hunter (LA) $500,000
7. Carlos Delgado (NY) $500,000
8. Andy Pettit (NY) $500,000
9. Todd Helton (CO) $300,000
10. Jason Schmidt (LA) $250,000
What does this tell us? It suggests there are benefits to being in a large market like New York or LA. But it ALSO tells me that baseball players are not making huge money off endorsements. The dropoff after the mega-talents is mighty steep. For someone lucky enough to get a local endorsement, its pennies on the dollar. Remember, minimum salaries these days are $390K.
As for your other question, the “intangibles” of a city, there may be something there. It certainly seems to affect some players like CC Sabathia, who loves the west coast. Sometimes players will give their hometown team a small discount. But again, these are all professionals out to make their fortune.
I hope that Miller and other athletes look at St. Louis favorably. It IS a good town to play baseball in, with positive, knowledgeable fans. But its a marginal edge at best.
by JWO on Nov 24, 2008 12:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
kind of shocking
how many basketball players are in the top 20. I didn’t even realize basketball was still a viable sport- kind of thought it was well along the professional-hockey death spiral.
god, i love baseball. -roy hobbs
by SleepyCA on Nov 24, 2008 2:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't surprise me
The NBA’s mantra is “sell the players not the teams”. Think of all the commercials you see Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, and LeBron James in.
The shoe companies are what keeps the money rolling in for most of the other guys on that list — Iverson, Anthony, Duncan, Garnett, etc. all have their own shoe.
My surprise? The fact that Phil Mickelson brings in $55M annually in endorsements. THAT’S INSANE!!!
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 24, 2008 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think some of the "recruiting"
has to do with the fact that St. Louis is a historic fanchise. I’m just speculating, but players with no trade clauses seem more likely to want to come to St. Louis. Take Peavy. His short list of teams includes the Cardinals. This also probably has to do with the fact that the Cardinals are viewed as a winning team. I think the best “recruiting” that the Cardinals can do is to keep winning because most* players care about winning.
*See Affeldt, Jeremy
Two goldfish are in a tank. One of them turns to the other and says, "You man the guns, I'll drive!"
by thegodfather on Nov 24, 2008 11:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would say all players care about $$$$$..............
Then once money is out of the way you can discuss what matters most after that……….
We must remember this is their job. They have families to take care of.
I think players obvioulsly want to play on winning teams, however they are not going to take ridiculos pay cuts to play for a winner at the same time. Now there is not much difference between $3 million and $4 million, but I would have to think most players would jump at a chance to make $15 million vs. $3 million even if it meant playing for a bad team.
by ICbirdfan on Nov 24, 2008 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well of course
I’m not trying to suggest that players will accept huge paycuts to play on winning teams, merely that when the pay is at least similar, players will tend to choose winning teams, like St. Louis.
Two goldfish are in a tank. One of them turns to the other and says, "You man the guns, I'll drive!"
by thegodfather on Nov 24, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...
… what’s the p that MLB players understand NPV? their agents might, but agents get paid a %, so their job is to maximize the raw dollar amount regardless of NPV or cost of living.
by kindred on Nov 24, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
We can easily speculate that money is the most important aspect, after all, baseball is their job. I’d assume, however, that once a player has been around long enough to earn plenty of money, he’d put winning a championship at the top of his list.
As far as intangibles, all I can say is that if it were me, I’d certainly prefer living in a big city, with lots of excitement, like New York or Chicago, over a place like Kansas City or Cleveland.
by mikeonthecards on Nov 27, 2008 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Furcal In Oakland
say an article on the A’s escorting Furcal around Oakland, wining and dining, golf, etc. Furcal stated that he never realized many of the local amenities. He was impressed and suggested that could sway his opinion of where to sign. Once a player is financially secure, which happens pretty quick, I think other things can enter into decisions. A chance to make the playoffs is obvious, but beyond winning, St. Louis should sell it’s fan base. All players realize how it affects games at the stadium, but may not be aware of the great amount of support within the community that St. Louis offers. St. Louis fans aren’t just fans at the game, they are year round. There is much to sell.
victim of the sixties
by victim of the sixties on Nov 29, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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