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Pujols Elbow

Belatedly reading some of the Pujols tributes and noticed a quote from Albert himself on BP saying that the nerve operation was an attempt to fix elbow problems caused by ligament damage but that there was a 25% chance he would need the ligament replacement surgery. 

 

Pujols said. "The doctors are optimistic that this surgery will work and I'll be fine for next season. I know there's a 25 percent chance it might not work, but I'm staying optimistic."

 

Was that explained at time of surgery?  I thought the nerve operation was unrelated to his longer term problem.  So, do we really have a 25% chance that Albert can't go out there this year?

 

Does that make it much less likely the Cards will dive in and make any big acquisitions this winter?

 

 

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He means 25% chance he has to get it at some point in the future.

Not next year. And I doubt that 25% is chiseled in stone. It’s a rough estimate. Frankly, I don’t worry about it and my advice is that you shouldn’t either. If it were an issue, he’d have had the procedure already.

And it’s probably more of an issue pain-wise than anything. Which is why they did the nerve procedure.

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by Tackle Box on Nov 20, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Loosening Up

The nerve problem is caused by his elbow loosening up as the Ulnar Collateral Ligament (UCL) loses its strength. This puts tension on the nerve which leads to other symptoms such as the loss of feeling in the hand.

All they did was move the nerve around so that it isn’t under quite so much tension, but they did nothing to fix the underlying problem with the ligament.

This really isn’t a good sign because it means that things are getting worse over time. However, it could still be a couple of years before the ligament fails completely.

by thepainguy on Nov 21, 2008 10:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Protection for Pujols

We would have a few options if AP wasn’t able to go (I just got chills down my spine…) C Duncan is a 1B by trade. Freese, Craig or Walrus could be moved from 3B. But for my $ I’d give Josh Phelps a try (could be next year’s Ryan Ludwick). Phelps hit 20 homers for the Blue Jays in ‘03, he’s 30, and if you look at a combo of minor and major league stats, he has become a much better hitter in the last 5 years.. He strikes out a lot, but who doesn’t these days- oh yeah, Pujols.

Anyway, I think the Cards are covered as far as emergency options are concerned- therefore no need to go out and make any big acquisitions- now let’s just hope we don’t ever need them.

by BustaCard on Nov 21, 2008 11:17 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Howard not Pujols!

Just to have some fun, I googled up an article about why Howard should have been the MVP (written after the fact)… I came up with this gem.

http://blackathlete.net/artman2/publish/Commentary_1/Ryan_Should_Have_Been_N_L_MVP.shtml

Here are some of my favorite paragraphs… too bad FJM is retired.

“For the 199 times that Howard struck out this season, he carried the Phillies to a division title with his bat. While Pujols numbers had stats geeks in masturbation mode even when his team was no longer in contention for the postseason, Howard batted .352, hit 11 homeruns and drove in a club 32 runs in September.”

"To me, most valuable player means most valuable to your team. Do your individual numbers translate into winning for your team? Not most valuable stats determined by some computer — what is this the BCS? "

 

by E-Dizzle on Nov 21, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh. Can a site called "Black Athlete" possibly be objective about this?

Politics + Baseball = Dumb.
Racial Politics + Baseball = Super Dumb.

by mattybobo on Nov 21, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

there goes the A's chances at any MVP's...

unless you really think Rajai can get it done

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Nov 27, 2008 1:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom Haudricourt writes for blackathlete.net?

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by hazel on Nov 21, 2008 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So by that logic, jimmie rollins, chase utley, victorino, hell, anybody in a Phillies uniform is a

better MVP candidate. So Taguchi contributed more to a team that won the world series this year than Albert did, because his team actually won. Ergo, So Taguchi should have been MVP!

Even assuming this argument has merit, it is a better argument for why Lidge should have gotten the MVP than Howard — Lidge was consistently putting out tremendous performance, while Howard lingered for months without producing.

Deep down, I think most people think Howard should have gotten the MVP b/c he hit lots of HR. But nobody can defend that as a proposition, so they twist stats and come up with silly arguments.

For the record, in 2006, I thought that Howard was at least was equally deserving of the award. I am not someone who just moves the goalposts so the home team wins.

by tom s. on Nov 21, 2008 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I sent him an e-mail...waiting for his response

Dear Mr. Murray,
 
I am an avid Cardinals fan, but I like to believe that first and foremost I am a fan of the game of baseball. I know that I carry a bias towards my team and my team’s players. However, I know that I can say to you without the slightest amount of bias that Albert Pujols was far and away the Most Valuable Player in the National League this season. Thus, I am writing you this letter to respectfully disagree with your statement of Ryan Howard derserving the NL MVP.
 
As you stated in your article, you already know that Albert Pujols was far superior statisitically to Ryan Howard in almost every single category. Yes, Howard did lead the Majors in home runs and runs batted in. But, I’m sure you are aware that RBI’s are one of the most team-subjective statistics out there. Do you not believe if Albert Pujols had the likes of Chase Utley, Jimmy Rollins, and Shane Victorino batting in front of him to get on base he couldn’t have very easily had 140+ RBI’s, especially with his .357 AVG? If Pujols played in the hitter-friendly Citizen’s Bank Ballpark could he have not hit 40+ HR’s? I guess we will never know. But, Pujols did miss 14 games this season with a calf strain and still managed to hit 37 long balls and drive in 116 runs hitting in a pitcher’s park 81 games out of the year.
 
You make the mention of Howard driving in all of his runs and leading the league in home runs all while putting up a line of .234/.324/.508. If Howard had not had this sub-par line, his massive month of September would not have been necessary because he and the Phillies would have wrapped up the NL East much earlier. Just imagine how much gaudier Howard’s HR’s and RBI’s could have been with a Pujolsian slash line. The point I am making here is that if you were to replace Howard with Pujols on the Phillies roster he would have put up his Ruthian slash line and he would have had even more HR’s and RBI’s than Howard playing in the hitter’s friendly ballpark. Thus, his “value” is much greater than Howard’s.
 
As well, you make the claim “Individual statistics mean absolutely nothing unless it translates into your team winning.” Well, the fact is Pujols’ team did win. The Cardinals were projected to be a 70-75 win team and they ended up with 86. No, they did not make the playoffs, but they were in the hunt all the way until September in the toughest division in the NL. The Phillies were playing in a much weaker division and their only competition late in the year were the Mets who had another September fallout. The Cardinals had to climb an uphill battle against the Cubs and Brewers, and they were also being challenged by a surging Astros team. I commend the Phillies for making it to the postseason and I congratulate them on winning the World Series. However, this is, as you mentioned, a moot point due to the fact that MVP voting takes place before the postseason. In any case, Chase Utley, Shane Victorino, Cole Hamels, and Brad Lidge played just as significant, if not more significant, roles in the Phillies run to the playoffs over the course of the entire season, and the games in May and June go down in the exact same win column as the wins in August and September.
 
 
Don’t get me wrong, I think Howard is a great player and a tremendous human being. He is feared by pitchers for his power and he does drive in runs, but there are a slew of players in the Majors that can do that. If I had a vote for the NL MVP, I could not in with justifiable logic give the award to Mr. Howard. To put this into perspective take Pujols’ total for strikeouts in 2008, then triple it, and he would still have 37 less strikeouts compared to Ryan. When we look back on these players careers’ 30 years from now Howard will most likely be seen as a great slugger. Pujols could very well be seen as one of the greatest players in the history of the game. To consider these two players in the same level of play any season is a stretch. I understand your praise for Howard guiding his team to the postseason, still this is not the only measurement for then MVP. The award is not given solely to players who make the postseason, and unless this stipulation changes it is not a valid argument to solely base the MVP on. I respect your opinion on Howard being a great hitter and important player to the Phillies postseason run. But to consider him the MVP of the National League is not an appropriate assessment. I thank you for taking the time to read this and I would appreciate a response if you have the time.
 
Thank you

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Nov 22, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit

I hate when you’ve read over something several times and don’t see any mistakes. Then, once you do send it, the spelling mistakes stick out to you like a sore thumb…..

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Nov 22, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got an idea.

Use spell check. Revolutionary, I know.

by spants on Nov 22, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there isn't a spell check for words that aren't misspelled

I’m talking about when you type “then” and mean “the”…those kind of spelling mistakes

(I’m assuming that was sarcasm though)

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Nov 23, 2008 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I was messing with you.

by spants on Nov 23, 2008 2:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For it all the team has several under-the-knife concerns:

Albert, Ank, Lil’ Dunc, Carp, Tyler J – not to mention the usual suspects for the DL – Molina, Kinney, Glaus.. . . . Could be a L O N G year. .. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on Nov 24, 2008 3:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

pujols can switch hit, right?

or better yet, switch hit one handed! then he can have surgery and still play!

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Nov 27, 2008 1:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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