The greatest Cardinals team and more.....

by thegashousegang on Nov 20, 2008 3:41 PM EST

If this has been posted before please let me know. I searched under greatest, best , cardinals, cards, redbird, team all-time and didn't find a fan post with this topic which is which Cardinals team do you think is the best ever.... and more.

I have several questions, which team do you think is the greatest is Cardinals history? Which one is the best you've seen in your lifetime. Which team was your favorite and which year's team do you think gets honorable mention for being near great, but because they lost in the playoffs or series will never be looked at as great?

Below is a poll for which team in the history of the Cardinals do you consider the greatest?

This is my first fan post here so I hope it generates some conversation and comments. I look forward to seeing what you all think!

Poll

Which year's team is the greatest Cardinals team ever in your opinion?

1926

3 votes

1931

0 votes

1934

8 votes

1942

12 votes

1944

17 votes

1946

4 votes

1964

20 votes

1967

28 votes

1982

7 votes

2006

12 votes

111 votes | Poll has closed

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I would vote for 2004

They won 105 games. Edmonds, Rolen and Pujols all had MVP type seasons. They had a great series with the Astros to get to the World Series, with JEFF SUPPAN winning game seven. They then faced the Red Sox, who had just come back from 3-0 to be the Yankees, in the WS. It really was destiny that the Sox were gonna win it all.

by vivaelpujols on Nov 20, 2008 5:27 PM EST reply actions

2004 needs consideration

The were the most exciting of the ’04 ’05 ’06 run…

Also a small tip, naming a post “If this has been posted before…” is a bad title

Just go for it and name it what you want, and if its been posted before people will let you know, trust me.

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by salukihoops on Nov 20, 2008 5:48 PM EST reply actions

thanks for the tip! :) I'll change the title...

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.-Rogers Hornsby

by thegashousegang on Nov 20, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions

My favorite team is 1985

Probably the most disappointing team, but my favorite team. Two 20 game winners, a lights out closer. Vince Coleman stealing 110 bases. Pendleton, Ozzie, Willie, Herr, and Coleman were all switch hitters… just an incredibly talented lineup. The MVP, the ROY, and Ozzie’s home run…

by Turkatron on Nov 20, 2008 6:50 PM EST reply actions

1985 and 2004

I believe those were the best Cardinals teams of their respective Herzog and LaRussa eras. However, both of them lost the World Series. I didn’t think the 1982 world championship team was better than the 1985 club, and I certainly didn’t think the 2006 championship team was anywhere close to being as good as the 2004 club was.

Those great teams from the 1960’s played before I was born.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Nov 20, 2008 6:56 PM EST reply actions

Wow!

Someone seriously voted for 2006. Just curious, how is an 83 win club better than some of the other great teams above?

Two goldfish are in a tank. One of them turns to the other and says, "You man the guns, I'll drive!"

by thegodfather on Nov 20, 2008 7:16 PM EST reply actions

it's all about the bling

i guess

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Nov 20, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions

all of those teams have the bling

by bearcatcardfan on Nov 20, 2008 7:22 PM EST up reply actions

i know, i should have been clearer

what i meant was because they won the bling when people actually saw it, that team means more to them than those older posters who remember the teams from the 60’s & 40’s. those under 40 really have a hard time remembering great Cards teams who have won it all. so i’m sure the 06 squad, especially how they won it, is really special to a lot of fans. so they rank them higher.

fwiw, i’m 31 & i voted for 67

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Nov 21, 2008 1:42 AM EST up reply actions

Take a look at the 1944 rotation and tell me the argument against those guys

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 20, 2008 7:30 PM EST reply actions

Playing devil's advocate

I agree that it’s a pretty impressive rotation, but one could make the case that several players were involved in the war at the time. Several of the players didn’t really belong in the majors.

by Turkatron on Nov 20, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions

I've heard ppl blow off the '44 Cards because of the war also....

While there is truth to the war affecting things, the Cards were able to fill in their holes with players who were better than what other teams could fill theirs in with. The basic core of this team was still there from ‘42 also so this I think is a excellent team and picking it as the best as many have I feel is legitimate despite the critics of this team. :) Your devil’s advocacy brings up a whole new topic for discussion in a future fan post. Great point to bring up!

I did choose the ’42 edition although I love the Gashouse Gang of ’34 the most of all the Cardinals teams in history for they were a cast of unique characters.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.-Rogers Hornsby

by thegashousegang on Nov 21, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions

How about the 1887 team?

95-40 Scored 1131 runs, Allowed 761 runs.

it was an Amazing team they scored 8.2 runs a game, which was nearly 1.5 runs more that any other team. Had the great Bob Caruthers who went 29-9 pitching and finished with a 1.010 Ops playing outfield, when he wasn’t pitching. They also had two players finish with over 160 runs scored which lead the league.

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Nov 20, 2008 9:54 PM EST reply actions

Weren't the rules radically different back then?

I know at one point in the 19th century, baseball was played first to twenty runs.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 20, 2008 10:28 PM EST up reply actions

Your half right,

When baseball was first being played it was first to 21 wins. Then in 1857 they changed it to the 9 innings that we have today.

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Nov 20, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions

Also

Didn’t they average like, 4 unearned runs per game or something back then? It is pretty cool to look at those oldy timey numbers though.

by mattybobo on Nov 21, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions

1942

That team was 106-48 and beat a Joe DiMaggio-led Yankees team 4 games to 1 in the World Series.

"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Nov 21, 2008 3:04 PM EST reply actions

Same thing in 1926

The Cardinals defeat Ruth and the Yankees for their first ever World Series title

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Nov 21, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions

Speaking of the 1926 Cardinals

Depending on your political orientation, you will either find this photo either profoundly elating or deeply, deeply disturbing.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 21, 2008 10:21 PM EST up reply actions

surprisingly...both!

The kid in me loves it. The adult…not so much.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 21, 2008 11:26 PM EST up reply actions

Me too!

He does look good in the uni.

by spants on Nov 22, 2008 2:29 AM EST up reply actions

A great picture that I am printing out!

The guy had it all didn’t he? A blonde, on the right team…. oh yeah, then he became Prez.. :P

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.-Rogers Hornsby

by thegashousegang on Nov 22, 2008 7:43 AM EST up reply actions

what a great ballclub this one was.......

The three years of 42, 43, 44 were a great run and this ballclub had some great players on it. :) This was my choice also. :) I can’t even imagine being on a ballclub and beating the Yanks of that era with DiMaggio in a World Series. What a moment that had to be for those Cardinals! Of course, we had Stan the Man!!! No small fry, even next to the great DiMaggio.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.-Rogers Hornsby

by thegashousegang on Nov 21, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions

The Cardinals seem to have several teams like the '26 Cards...

who came into the Series as underdogs in the Series, yet went on to win.

The 1926 team , the 1931 Cardinals who beat the heavily favored A’s of Philadelphia, the 1942 Cardinals who beat the powerhouse Yanks, the 1964 Cardinals who were underdogs to the Yankees again and of course, the 2006 Cardinals who were supposed to be dead meat for that team from Detroit….

I’m surprised no one picked the 1931 Redbirds yet, for that was a huge upset.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.-Rogers Hornsby

by thegashousegang on Nov 21, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions

There was a "Tournament of Champions"

earlier this year on VEB.

But I can’t remember who won it. I know the sim ran in to April and everyone lost interest.
I’ve looked through the archives and the last post I found mentioning it is here.

Furthermore, this page stops in the semifinals.

Does anyone else remember which team won it (or have a link)? I’ve only looked through lboros’ posts in April, so maybe az, rb, or chuck posted the final results and I missed it.

"I'm as nauseous as I've ever been. I have a terrible headache. My head is pounding. I feel like throwing up and I'm having trouble swallowing. And the beauty of it is, you want to feel like this every day." - Tony LaRussa

by adiueordie on Nov 22, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions