Cards sign Trever Miller
by ICEYhawtSTUNNAZ on Nov 20, 2008 1:05 AM EST
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According to Bernie.
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=588288
I don't have peripherals, but he was .235/.327/.382 against lefties in 2008, and he's 35.
Not quite a shut down lefty, but depending on the contract, this could be a pretty smart pick up. LOOGY's seem to be in high demand this offseason, and Mo went out and made sure to snag a serviceable one. Again, no contract details yet, but he's certainly going to be cheaper than Affeldt, so the Birds could/should still be in the game for Rhodes/Ohman/Cruz/someone better than Miller.
He is a type B FA though, so the Rays get a pick, which I'm sure they'll use to draft some elite player who will be better than whoever we would have drafted with the pick.
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He is a type B FA though, so the Rays get a pick, which I’m sure they’ll use to draft some elite player who will be better than whoever we would have drafted with the pick.
We don’t give the Rays a pick with a type B. They just get a sandwich pick, I believe.
by mojowo11 on Nov 20, 2008 1:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
true.
they get something, we don’t give up anything, everyone wins.
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by hazel on Nov 20, 2008 7:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to mlbtraderumors.com
Miller isn’t even a Type B free agent, so the Rays don’t get the sandwich pick either.
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by TurdFerguson on Nov 20, 2008 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his real line...
against lefties last year was .209/.302/.308…
…235/.327/.382 is his carreer line…
by E-Dizzle on Nov 20, 2008 8:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
if
If it meas that we are gonna spend the LOOGY’s saved money in a MIF, i ok with it.
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by viktor on Nov 20, 2008 8:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
amen
every dollar saved here helps somewhere else (hopefully)
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by jealousblues on Nov 20, 2008 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a good move.
Taking Rhodes out of the mix because of the money it would take to land him, I think Miller stacks up right along side of all the other left handers.
by mikeonthecards on Nov 20, 2008 8:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
How much is Rhodes gonna cost?
He played for $1mil last year (I believe) and only pitched 33+ innings. Considering that Ohman, Shouse and Beimel are all still available and probably more desireable I don’t see Rhodes getting much. I bet he signs for 1/$2mil or at the most 2/$5.
by cardzfanbub on Nov 20, 2008 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So this gives us...
a bunch of Loogys to sift through in spring training. Right now, I believe we have:
Manning
Miller
Ostlund
TJ
Flores
anyone I’m forgetting?
by stlfan on Nov 20, 2008 10:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mulder
He’s coming back as a LOOGY. A submariner!
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by thegodfather on Nov 20, 2008 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he is a submariner he is a righty
from what i have read in another thread here he pitches softball right handed….
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by StLHugo on Nov 20, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That might
have been a strategy for preventing injury to his delicate left shoulder.
by spants on Nov 20, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
does that mean
Jocketty will sign him in cincy?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 20, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jayson Stark thinks so...
…its on one of his rumblings and grumblings…
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by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 20, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im ok with this if larussa uses him as a Loogy
last year he overused Villone and Flores… don’t do that with miller
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 20, 2008 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The entire bullpen was overworked because we had two starters averaging under 6 IP/start
and Looper was barely over that mark. Without doing the math, I would assume this is the fewest innings out of the rotation that we’ve had in a very long time, especially when you factor in the injuries to Wainwright and Wellemeyer putting even more strain on the bullpen as those innings had to be filled by spot starts and Boggs and Parisi.
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by Valatan on Nov 20, 2008 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IP as a starter is available from BP
under “team”, then “pitching splits”. 2008 had the most innings pitched from the STL rotation since 2005, with 66 more IP by starter than in 2007.
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by SleepyCA on Nov 20, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes me wonder
That makes me wonder how many 5 IP starts we had this year. I know we didn’t have enough that went 7 but did we have a lot fewer 1-3IP starts and more 5IP starts then 07? Less Wells/Reyes blow ups in the first inning and more consistently Meh type outings from Pineiro/Boggs? I have to say I would rather have a Pineiro that gives me consistently 5-6IP 3-4ER then have a Wells moodswing of great possible outings or horribly bad bad outings. I always let myself think “this is the time Kip is going to go 7IP 0ER” and then it would be the 2nd inning with 4 ER already. At least with JP I expect 4ER and 6IP.
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by StLHugo on Nov 20, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Surprising, and I'm sure that is the explanation
I still stand by my belief that the best way to build a bullpen is to start with five starters that can give you as close as possible to 200 innings each.
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by Valatan on Nov 20, 2008 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
5 IP or less
There were 50 starts of 5 IP or less. Only two (Mulder and Parisi) went less than 3 IP, with 7 games of the starter not making it through 4 IP.
by ubeddie on Nov 20, 2008 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my turn to ask
where did you find those stats?
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by SleepyCA on Nov 21, 2008 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is fine if we are going
to load up and address one of the glaring team needs with a big splash such as splurging on Rafael Furcal or the Big Unit.
by jjray on Nov 20, 2008 11:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Terms of the Contract?
Anyone want to guess how much we’re paying this guy???
I say it’s 2 years for 4MM total.
1.75MM in ’09, 2.25MM in ’10
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by salukihoops on Nov 20, 2008 12:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think miller...
will be in the pen for sure. I don’t think he will be one a bunch of loogy’s we sift though. He will be there
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by cardsphan04 on Nov 20, 2008 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I Like the Call
Miller fills one of the team’s current weaknesses, and should come at a reasonable cost. I’m particularly encouraged by his success with two outs and runners in scoring position (Bernie Miklasz notes that they were 0 for 18).
I’m guessing the Cards look for one more specialist, but this move addresses one of the team’s top concerns (without breaking the bank).
Finally, two questions: does this move suggest the Cardinals are NOT going after Fuentes, and does it suggest increased confidence in Chris Perez?
by JWO on Nov 20, 2008 3:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They weren't gonna go after Fuentes either way
But they still might look around for a closer. I really hope if we don’t sign Hoff then we just let YP close instead of Franklin or resigning Izzy.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 20, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who is YP?
You mean CP?
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by salukihoops on Nov 20, 2008 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Put the brakes on!!!
Now Goold is saying there has been a snag. Not sure if the physical didn’t pass or what. But apparently Mo is talking to several lefthanders still.
by Merry CRasmus on Nov 20, 2008 6:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the snarky jerk in me wants to say
Paletta cleared him, and Mo took that as a clear danger sign.
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by Valatan on Nov 20, 2008 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The way I see it
If you aren’t going to be snarky on the internet, then where are you going to be?
by Merry CRasmus on Nov 20, 2008 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trever Miller - on the personal side
he’s a good guy……..KY native….graduate of Trinity High in Louisville…….POY in KY as pitcher/outfielder…….married with 3 kids………one with a rare genetic heart disorder….perhaps the new Russ Springer in that regard
by Hinkster on Nov 20, 2008 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jocketty's hand at work
MLBtraderumors has the Reds interested in Miller. No doubt Jocketty is trying to mess up this deal in his attempts at extracting his revenge.
by The Duke on Nov 21, 2008 7:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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