tues odds n ends
g’morning everyone --- just keeping the seat warm today. a few items from here and there:
- in september, a commenter suggested (and forgive me, i can’t find the post) that the cards’ fall from contention might aid pujols’ mvp chances --- because he might see more pitches to hit. that appears actually to have happened: as i noted last week at the Daily Fix, el hombre only drew 2 intentional walks in september --- after having been ibb’d 32 times in the first five months of the year. for whatever reason, teams were a lot more willing to challenge albert in september, and he took advantage of the opportunity to pad his counting stats: his 27 rbi in 24 september starts were nearly a quarter of his season total. that finishing kick propelled him to 4th in the nl leaderboard in rbi, and he wound up tied for 4th in the league in homers --- in other words, top 5 in all of the triple crown categories, which still carry a lot of sway among many bbwaa voters. those figures, combined w/ his superior rate stats and the lack of a suitable rival, might garner albert his 2nd mvp award.
- you can vote for albert, by the way, in the Internet Baseball Awards over at Baseball Prospectus. pujols won the IBA MVP in both 2005 and 2006; he lost out last year to matt holliday.
- one more albert item: Lookout Landing calls him the most underappreciated player in baseball.
- as long as we’re talking awards, am i the only one who thinks sabathia deserves the national league cy young? granted he only pitched in our league for half a season --- he came over in time to make 17 starts, or 3 fewer than wainwright made this year (and 1 fewer than cc made in the american league). but nearly half his nl starts (7) were complete games, and he led the league in that category despite his limited playing time. he also tied for the league lead in shutouts --- not only in the nl (where he tossed 3) but also in the al (2 sho). that feat in and of itself ought to be good for some kind of award. another point in cc’s favor: from july 8 (when he joined the nl) forward he led the league in every pitching category except strikeouts, where he finished second. his 1.65 era was nearly half a run better than his next closest competitor during that span (santana, at 2.09), and he threw 18 more innings than the next hardest-working guy. his average start for milwaukee lasted 7 2/3 innings. to cap it off, he threw a complete-game 4-hitter on the last day of the season to put his team into the playoffs. he never yielded more than 4 runs in a game for milwaukee; he yielded 2 or fewer 10 times. i’d place sabathia among the top 3 in nl mvp this year.
- as good as cc was, the brewers paid a pretty penny. they completed their trade for sabathia the other day by sending an outfielder named michael brantley over as the player to be named later. opinion’s divided on this guy --- he has exceptional on-base ability (career minor-league obp of .399) and good speed, and has handled high levels well at a young age --- reached double A at age 20 last year, spent all of 2008 there and posted a .319 / .395 / .398 line. the last figure in the slash lines is the knock on brantley --- no power. BA had him ranked as the 18th-best prospect in the southern league; john sickels rates him a B, and kevin goldstein likes him. he’s roughly comparable to john jay. so add that to the already high bounty milwaukee gave up for their 3 months of sabathia. (and, alas, cc wasn’t very good is his playoff game, was he. . . . .)
- espn released their park factor calculations for 2008, and st louis rated as the 4th-toughest national league park to score in, trailing only petco (by far the most inhospitable hitting environment in baseball), dodger stadium, and pnc park in pittsburgh. overall it ranked 23d among the 30 nl teams. last year it ranked 22nd; in 2006 it ranked 20th; and in all three years, the runs scored there have fallen between 93 and 95 percent of average --- it, the park suppresses scoring by 5 to 7 percent. those are some pretty consistent scores, and they were achieved despite some pretty drastic personnel churn --- the only players who have held starting jobs all 3 years of the ballpark’s existence are pujols and molina (a fact that, in and of itself, is fairly shocking . . . . ). the cards’ home/road pitching split was narrower than usual in 2008, a mere 13 runs (vs 59 runs last year and 66 runs in 2006); their home era of 4.06 was right in line with previous figures (3.93 in 2006, 4.17 in 2007), but the card hurlers improved dramatically on the road in 2008.
no ballgames today; the final four is set, and VEB's adopted team is still alive. red sox appear to be the best team left, but that's just on paper --- which ain't worth nothing this time of year.
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Bench-, er, seat warmer
I hope that we can get a seat warmer post out of you about once a month, LB.
I was rooting for the Brewers to make the playoffs since the trade, if I remember correctly, allowed the Indians to name the Crash Davis of the deal. Michael Brantley is an intriguing player. Thank goodness he won’t be batting in front Braun and Fielder (assuming they re-sign Prince) in the future, getting on-base at such a high rate.
Doesn’t the Busch Stadium park factor make Pujols’s MVP argument all the stronger? Not that seasoned baseball scribes pay attention to such nerdy stats…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 7, 2008 8:35 AM EDT 0 recs
that's what I thought of right when I read about the park factor
it just makes Pujols’ feat all the more astounding
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Oct 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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Not just Pujols
The Cards had one of the best offenses in the NL. Just goes to show you how effective our lineup was this year, LaRussa’s tinkering and all.
by mojowo11 on
Oct 7, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
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4th in R/G
The Cards ended up 4th in the NL in runs per game at 4.81 behind the Cubs, Mets and Phills
by StLHugo on
Oct 7, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
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I hate these delays in TV schedules
when series finish early.
by sdrone on Oct 7, 2008 8:56 AM EDT 0 recs
I'd like to once again express my love for Pujols
From the Lookout Landing link….
“But that’s not all. You see, it wouldn’t be enough if Pujols were simply the best hitter on the planet. He’s also the best defensive first baseman in baseball. By one reputable metric, between 2005-2007 he made 41 more plays than the next best defensive 1B. He’s led first basemen in RZR two years in a row and three of the last five.”
by sdrone on Oct 7, 2008 9:12 AM EDT 0 recs
Lidge for Cy Young
without him the Phillies are not in the playoffs, let alone the NLCS. 40 for 40 is an outstanding stat, and it reflects the entire NL season, not just part.
Imagine what would have happened if the Astros would have accepted Schumaker for Lidge instead of Bourne. They would have gotten a better deal and the Cards would have been in the playoffs.
by vinniefromjersey on Oct 7, 2008 10:14 AM EDT 0 recs
while i would love for the Cards to have a guy
that converts 40 saves perfectly, i have a hard time justifying Lidge being the best pitcher in the NL. he did have 40 saves but saves are next to worthless when judging a pitcher and he NEVER pitched more than 3 outs per outing and only threw 69 innings this year which is roughly 1/4 as many as Santana and Sabathia…that would be like giving the MVP to someone who had 125 AB’s…he wasnt even the best closer in the game this year as Nathan, Rivera, and Soria were all better, granted in the AL…Lidge was very good this year and the Phillies may not have made the playoffs with out him but he was not the best pitcher in the league and probably just barely in the top 5, if that. IMO, of course.
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum
by nomar34 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:57 AM EDT
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albert's army
the lohse signing makes the pitching staff better and cuts down the need to sign a dempster or equivalent. i am hoping more than anything that mo puts most of his eggs in the furcal basket, especially since he shouldn’t be a type a free agent.
I am so smart - S...M...R...T!
by gforce on Oct 7, 2008 11:09 AM EDT 0 recs
uh...Lincecum...
Off the top of my head: led the league in Ks, 2nd in ERA and 18 wins for a horrible Giants team.
With a little help: 8th in WHIP, led league in H/9, K/9, and ERA+, third in IP.
I’ve just got to give it to him. Nothing against Sabathia…well alright something against Sabathia. He didn’t pitch the whole year in one league, so in my mind, he’s just out of the running for NL Cy Young. If there were only 1 Cy Young for the whole MLB he’d sure deserve it, but his NL stats alone just don’t get there for me. SO and CG are crazy impressive, but not impressive enough. And they (hopefully) don’t give out the award based on stats accumulated over half a season.
Now the story of a wealthy family who lost everything, and the one son who had no choice but to keep them all together...it's Arrested Development.
by Bowen on Oct 7, 2008 11:22 AM EDT 0 recs
Are the Red Sox the best team on paper?
They scored, what, 5 of their 7 runs over these past two games on ‘unearned’ opportunities. Mike Lowell is done for the series, JD Drew’s back is still barking and Josh Beckett appears to not be very sharp.
I’d say the Phillies are the best team left on paper
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 7, 2008 11:29 AM EDT 0 recs
Were the Angels better on paper?
Man I hate the Red Sox.
by sdrone on
Oct 7, 2008 11:43 AM EDT
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The Red Sox are the new Evil Empire
Go Rays.
"Cross a lawyer with the Godfather, make you an offer you can't understand" - Don Henley
by TurdFerguson on
Oct 7, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
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the rays
had the best record and won the AL East. In my book that puts them as the best team (on paper or plastic)
by eglasier on
Oct 7, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
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Red Sox had a much, much better run differential
They played without Papi for a big long while, Jason Bay is an upgrade over what they had with Manny and they heavily outscored the Rays in head to head meetings. B-Ref has the Rays struggling against “power pitching”…ya know, Lester/Matszaka/Beckett types. They’re the best team on paper.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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Dice K is not a power pitcher
he’s a nibbler with a good fastball.
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 7, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
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High K, high bb rate
“Power” in b-ref terms is merely semantic.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT
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an upgrade over Manny
you got something to show for that. Cause I see Bay’s numbers with the Red Sox of an OPS+ of 130 and even a down first half for Manny, he had an OPS+ of 138. Bay might not be that worse than Manny this year, but he certainly hasn’t been any better.
by eglasier on
Oct 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
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Massive improvement on defense
Massive.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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Since Bay is a terrible defensive player
it can’t be that massive.
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT
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He was terrible in '07 with a hurting knee
Not so much every other year. They went from one of the worst in the game to below average. Bay is a much better baserunner and taking into account the IBBs Manny got they’ve been basically the same hitter when they were in Boston.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT
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I hope you mean just this year
cause Manny has a career OPS+ of 155, Bay’s is 130. BIG difference. And Manny has 8 IBB’s with the Sox. Bay has had 2 in half the time. I don’t really think that is a factor. You could make a counterargument that it goes in Manny’s favor as other players get better pitches to hit as well.
I can’t find any fielding stats but what numbers to you have to back this up?
You’ve made a lot of statements with no support here…
by eglasier on
Oct 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
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Of freakin course I mean this year
I don’t think Manny hitting .351 .457 .697 eight years ago has much bearing on what’s going on now.
The offensive production the Red Sox have gotten has been very similar from Bay/Ramirez in their time with the Red Sox.
Manny Ramirez at -109 was the worst defender in all of baseball from 05-07 according to the Fielding Bible and 46 plays worse than the 2nd worst LFer. He’s an unbelievable butcher.
Assuming Jason Bay is 6th on that list at -18 plays against average over the same time. Even if we regress that difference by 40 plays, a totally unreasonable number, we’re still talking Bay as being ~13 plays better than Manny over the course of the year. So not discounting for Jason Bay’s injury, assuming that the Fielding Bible is off by 40% AND assuming Jason Bay is #6 on the list, it’s generously a break even offense/defense.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
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FWIW +/- is broken when it comes to fenway
the ballpark makes manny look a lot worse than he is, because a lot of balls hit the wall at distances that should be playable.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on
Oct 7, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
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That's why I overestimated to a ridiculous degree
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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...with the 40 play thing
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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you said,
“Jason Bay is an upgrade over what they had with Manny”. But now you agree that it’s generously a break even offense/defense. While you may discount Bay’s injury for his numbers surely Manny having one of the worst half-seasons of his career skews his numbers as well. Of freakin course righ?,….Tina, eat your food!
by eglasier on
Oct 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
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Did you not see the assumptions it took to get there?
If someone who has the Fielding Bible would like to point me to just where Jason Bay is, that’d rule out an assumption, but do you really believe all three of those are accurate?
I made absolutely outrageous assumptions to get that they were even. Oh and that was generously for Manny even still. Oh and that’s even ignoring the baserunning aspect. If you’d actually read this in context, the fact that it was the worst half-seasons Manny has had (which isn’t even true) is irrelevant. The Red Sox have gotten better production out of Jason Bay than they have from Manny Ramirez in 2008 in Boston.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 5:38 PM EDT
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For reference, UZR had Bay from 2003-2007 at +14 runs
He’s not a butcher. Manny is. Jason Bay has been better for the Red Sox in 2008.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 5:42 PM EDT
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I really like the Dodgers and Rays.....
Think both are playing really good baseball, and it wouldn’t surprise me if that were our WS matchup.
by SoonerfanTU on Oct 7, 2008 12:19 PM EDT 0 recs
Dodgers starters get abused by lefties....something the Cubs didn't have at all
Phils have that covered in spades. Just sayin.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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agreed
But I have to admit that the Dodgers have been very good this season at supressing the gopher ball, something that the Phillies count on to score runs. That Philly team isn’t very good at stringing together multiple walks and hits in a row. They get a walk or a hit and then a two or three run bomb. I think it will be a good series with the way the Dodgers have been playing offensively.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Oct 7, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
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I agree
the Phillies seem to live on the homerun. With the Dodgers’ pitching, and that stadium, I think they have a very good chance to win this series. Of course that might just be wishful thinking.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 7, 2008 7:02 PM EDT
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Yeah...
I’m thinking a Rays/Dodgers World Series looks good.
by stlfan on
Oct 7, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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Cubs had Ted Lilly
But Lou decided not to start him until Game 4. Oops.
"Cross a lawyer with the Godfather, make you an offer you can't understand" - Don Henley
by TurdFerguson on
Oct 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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other way around
Batting lefties e.g. Howard, Utley, Rollins…
by StLHugo on
Oct 7, 2008 1:50 PM EDT
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Albert Pujols
Albert Pujols underappreciated? Not by us by God. But thanks for the article. I’ve read reams of stuff over the years about Albert, mostly admiring. But it doesn’t take a bushel of words to define his position in the game. How ‘bout this: Of all the players in the history of Major League baseball, only one has a higher career (.690 to .671) slugging percentage. His name is Babe Ruth. Of all the players in the history of Major League baseball, only two, the Babe and Barry Bonds, have a higher (1.164, 1.051, 1.049) OPS. Albert Pujols a great player? When he’s done, he may be the greatest player.
by deweydell on Oct 7, 2008 12:26 PM EDT 0 recs
his defense is definitely underrated
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Oct 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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His batting average.
He hits for WAY too high an avearage, and does not have enough “Statistically Outstandings”
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on
Oct 7, 2008 3:05 PM EDT
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Philly vs Rays
would just kill the WS ratings. Red Sox vs Dodgers would be the best (duh!)…. Hoping for a Rays vs Dodgers series with the Rays taking it all. Would the Rays have a “fire sale” if they won it all?
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Oct 7, 2008 12:27 PM EDT 0 recs
Damn this browser!
Anyways, the Rays have
Pena (2010)
Crawford (2010)
Kazmir (2012)
Iwamura (2010)
Price (2012)
Longoria (eternity)
Upton (no where near arbitration)
Aybar (same as Upton)
Garze (same as Aybar)
You get the idea.
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 7, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
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However, in 2010
payroll will have to go up:
Pena: $10 M
Crawford: $10 M
Kazmir: $8 M
Wheeler: $3.5 M
Iwamura: $4.25 M
Shields: $2.5 M
Price: $1 M
Longoria: $1 M
$40.25 M before taking into account arbitration escalators for Upton, Aybar, etc.
They are in decent shape. They can still operate at a $60 M budget and keep this great young team together.
However, Carl Crawford might be a trade target. He’s owed $20 M over the next two years and the Rays may be interested in moving him while they can get great value for him.
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 7, 2008 12:38 PM EDT
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if the Rays win the world series
the revenues they would generate just might be enough to cover all of next year’s payroll?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 7, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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Why baseball is still the best sport in the land
Percentage of teams that make the postseason:
MLB: 27%
NFL: 38%
NHL: 53%
NBA: 53%
If you make the playoffs in baseball…it’s kind of a big deal.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 7, 2008 12:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah
and baseball has made more money than those other sports the last couple of years, even football.
So more playoff teams does not necessarily equal more revenue.
Caveat – in considering the NHL, it must be noted that their reliance on the gate is much, much larger than the other three sports, who get tons more revenue from TV, radio, and the like. A lot of NHL teams just flat out don’t make money unless their team gets in the playoffs and gets them some extra home games, which are more likely to be sellouts than reg season games.
by Hal Lanier's Pants on
Oct 7, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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Yeah
There’s statistical reasons behind it in that the better team in the NBA typically wins so the champion isn’t as diluted necessarily as 53% suggests. Not necessarily the case by any stretch in baseball.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 12:46 PM EDT
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Really?
I’d like to see the NBA go to an 8 team playoff format, 4 teams from each conference instead of 8 teams from each conference. What the current format allows is for teams like the 2001 and 2002 Lakers and the 1995 Rockets to coast through the regular season, capture the 5 seed, and then barnstorm through the playoffs because they should have won 70 some games in the regular season. The format allows teams to coast into the playoffs, and inevitably one or two teams with sub-.500 records make the playoffs in one conference or another.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Oct 7, 2008 1:39 PM EDT
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Ideally yes
I was merely pointing out that the theoretical point of playoffs is to crown the best team (but really for the owners to make the most money). The NBA by having so many teams isn’t breaking the crown the best team thing by allowing so many teams.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist
by joker24 on
Oct 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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The NBA playoffs is a joke
It’s like the regular season really doesn’t matter. All you have to do is not completely suck to make the playoffs. With the NBA…their post season just doesn’t seem like anything special. Yeah the media will get excited if the Lakers get involed but other than that I don’t see how a non die hard fan of the league can get wrapped up into NBA post season play. And really I feel the same way about the NHL as well. Both of those leagues can’t hold a candle to MLB & NFL when it comes to the post season and they never will until they make it where half of the teams don’t get to post season when the season ends and just have the division winners with a wild card or two battle for the big prize..
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on
Oct 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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Rico Washington is a FA!
No more Rico the clubbed allowed him to go to the FA market early
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 7, 2008 2:50 PM EDT 0 recs
Kissler
Not sure how many have seen this article yet but George Kissler was injured in a car accident.
Kissler was a long time Cardinals coach and a “professor” in the College of Cardinals during the 80s.
by StLHugo on Oct 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT 0 recs
Um
Normally spelling police are just people trying to be a-holes, but since we’re talking about a very serious situaion for an absolute Cardinal icon…
It’s George Kissell, not Kissler
no offense intended, just trying to show respect for George
by Hal Lanier's Pants on
Oct 7, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Weird
I was just reading the SI article about Kissell and Sisler and somehow combined the names in my head.
by StLHugo on
Oct 7, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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Listening to Steve Stone
and he speculates that the Cubs will be shopping Derrek Lee this offseason.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 7, 2008 3:49 PM EDT 0 recs
I sure would
plus they can certainly afford to sign, say, Texiera.
by sdrone on
Oct 7, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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I guess that Krane Kenny (SP?)..... said payroll will increase.
by ICbirdfan on
Oct 7, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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It has to
Btw, it’s Kenney.
But, even it they just stand pat and don’t sign one single player (even one for league minimum), their payroll will go up by like 15 million simply due to backloaded contracts and other salary increases. And that doesn’t include re-signing guys like Dempster and Wood.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 7, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
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thanks for the spelling, what an odd name. I spelled it like Kenny Williams.
True, payroll will automatically go up…..
It will be interesting to see what the Cubbies do. They have some issues, and I guess we shall see how much extra $$ they will spend.
by ICbirdfan on
Oct 7, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
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I wonder what they can do with a new ownership coming in.
But I fully expect the Cubs to spend like the Yankees of the NL over the next 2-3 years. They are really desperate to get to the World Series that they are going to spend what it takes to make sure they are a playoff team for several more years.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on
Oct 7, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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But there is no new ownership coming in
Granted, it’s gonna eventually happen (maybe that’s what all those signs meant?), but a new ownership group will NOT be in place this offseason.
And I’ve said this for quite some time, to all the cubs fans out there….be careful what you wish for. A new ownership group (or owner) is going to be hard pressed to raise payroll all that much. They’re already one of the highest payrolls in the league and it’s gotten them zero postseason wins. The Tribune Company (despite what a lot of people said) spent a lot of money in the last few years and has spent a crap load of money the past two years and they haven’t even paid most of it out yet. Like a new ownership group is going to just keep adding payroll?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 7, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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Honestly, their hands are tied a bit
they have so many big contracts with no-trade clauses it really limits the moves they can make. Btw, I think dumping Lee is focusing on the wrong guy, although like Stone said, he’s a guy with diminishing power and his defense has gotten worse.
So, I guess you try to dump him before it gets any worse. But this is just the tip of the iceberg with those contracts. And it’s gonna take some creative deal making because Lee does have one of those no-trade contracts.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 7, 2008 4:06 PM EDT
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Who is the "right guy?"
There probably isn’t one. Maybe Soriano. But you’ll never get rid of him.
But the club needs a shake-up, since you can’t let Lou go into the clubhouse and slap people around.
Not my problem. But it will be interesting to watch in the offseason. I knew Ramirez was bad last postseason, but it was interesting to watch Soriano go bad as well this offseason.
by sdrone on
Oct 7, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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