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October 5, 2008 playoff games open thread

Adam1_tiny by chuckb on in News

Dammit. My local paper -- the Houston Comical -- is so shitty. It had hidden the start time of today's Phils-Brewers game so I'm an hour or so behind schedule. Here's the thread. We could finish off each series today.

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And we probably will.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Oct 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT   0 recs

BTW, have I mentioned recently

that Lohse’s #1 comp at age 28 was Jeff Suppan? Lohse’ll be 30 in December. His contract runs from his age-30 season through 33. I know some believe Lohse will get better in those years than he was this year but Suppan didn’t. Actually, he was better in his age-30 season, but worse in the next 3. This year he’s been terrible. If Lohse pitches like Suppan and there’s only 1 terrible season from Lohse, the contract may be worth it but I fear what we’re seeing from Suppan today is what we’ll see from Lohse in the playoffs in a couple of years.

by chuckb on Oct 5, 2008 2:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Lohse v. Suppan 3 years ago

Yikes. Pretty damn close on both K% and looking at 2008 Lohse and 2005 Suppan. At least it looks like Lohse’s BB/9 is moving in the right direction.

K and BB Rates:
Lohse 2008 K: 14.18
Lohse 2008 BB: 5.84

Suppan 2005 K: 13.67
Suppan 2005 BB: 7.55

Suppan’s BB% started moving upwards after 2005, so the comp, unfortunately, could be right on. Let’s just hope that by the end of the contract, Lohse is the #5 guy and doesn’t need to start a playoff game 4.

by lightbulb on Oct 5, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it's just a good measure of the club's faith in Carp's health that they think they need Lohse.

I assume Carp is done.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Oct 5, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes I agree

the Carp injury changed the equation quite a bit.

by chuckb on Oct 5, 2008 5:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A difference

is that Lohse has generally been viewed as underperforming prior to this year, while Suppan was thought, rightly or wrongly, to be getting pretty much all he could out of his limited talents. I don’t have a strong feeling about that, but if it’s true, then we might be better off with the guy we kept than with the one we didn’t.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 5, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's true that,

even years ago suppan never had the velocity or the swinging strike% that Lohse has now. Stuff wise they do not compare very well. Results wise they may, but although I hated this contract at first, I feel myself warming on it.

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on Oct 5, 2008 4:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rays-Sox weather report

It’s raining in the Western suburbs right now. Game might be delayed a bit, but they should be able to play it.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 2:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Yes

For the most part, the suburbs (except for the South Suburbs) are Cubs territory.

by lightbulb on Oct 5, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Cardinals territory ought to extend well into Arkansas

and all the way into southern Mississippi. Nebraska and Louisiana, too. Wherever KMOX reached and there wasn’t another franchise, was and still is to some degree, the Cardinal base.

by Red in Chicago on Oct 5, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Still in MS?

They haven’t switched to the Braves there?

by lightbulb on Oct 5, 2008 3:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

MS is Braves country

I grew up there. In fact, I think the Braves are pretty much the team of the whole state, not only half of it as the map shows. And that Map DOES who the Cards fans as having all of Arkansas.

by Gregatron on Oct 5, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the unincorporated Vegas territory

where they set the over-under.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

found the CommonCensus map

This is based on actual fan votes. Cardinals Nation represent!

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So if I read that map right

Washington isn’t a favorite of fans anywhere — even in Washington?

by StanTheManFan on Oct 5, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the Nike map

Was made pre-Nats. Common Census was updated this June.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

man, I take that back

Mixed up again. They should all be in there.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh...

I see them all over the east coast…you do realize the Nationals are in Washington DC not Washington state right?

by StLHugo on Oct 6, 2008 8:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the Marlins Territory

extends waaay to far into Braves Territory. There aint that many Marlins fans known to exist.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Oct 5, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And Yes

Rain seems fitting for them!

by lightbulb on Oct 5, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

here comes Lidge

And there’s the door…

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 3:53 PM EDT   0 recs

there it is

Thanks NL Central. Turn the off the lights on your way out.

That was poetic justice, wasn’t it? The Cubs helped stick themselves with the Dodgers, then just stuck themselves. The Brewers fans got their lone win, and hey, the champagne flows in Miller.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

strike the extra 'the'

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

bye bye brew crew

don’t let the door hit you on the way out…

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 5, 2008 4:01 PM EDT   0 recs

As people say around these parts,

“Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!”

by cardsgirl95 on Oct 5, 2008 4:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

amen

thats how I’ve always heard it.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Oct 5, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You didn't expect the Flubs to tank? Why not?

They’re the Flubs, after all. They did what they do.

by StanTheManFan on Oct 5, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was kind of expecting them to lose to the Phillies

I certainly wasn’t expecting them to get completely blown out by a middling-good LA team. I figured they’ve got too much talent for that, even for the Cubs.

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 5, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

gratuitous So Taguchi shot!

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT   0 recs

good!

what a joke that Texans franchise is and every year it’s the same “this is the Texans’ year” bullshit.

by chuckb on Oct 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Texans played a good game

but Sage Rosenfels completely gave the game to the Colts.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ozzie tosses seeds

They’re tied up in the 4th.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Rays in trouble

Bases jammed, no outs. Still 4th.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 5:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

4-1, man on 2nd, 1 out

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 5:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Sox crowd restless

Loose dirt on the mound being fixed up.

Groundskeeper now most famous in baseball.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 6:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Roger Bossard is well regarded at the best groundskeeper in baseball

He rebuilt both Fenway and Wrigely’s fields. They call him the Sod-father.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i thought wrigley

was supposed to be awful, or at least the infield?

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Oct 5, 2008 7:26 PM EDT   0 recs

It was until this past off season

it was crowned and had horrible drainage. Bossard ripped the entire thing up and rebuilt it with a top of the line drainage system.

And his work goes much further than US Cellular, Wrigley and Fenway……he’s worked for the Royal Saudi Family to build a soccer field. Here’s a great article about him and the reconstruction at Wrigley, just follow the link.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

classy fist-bump

Thornton applies full-body tag to Aybar as he runs up the line. Immediately makes sure they’re square, and they fist-bump.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 7:34 PM EDT   0 recs

three outs to go

Or two runs to go.

Fan sign: “Hey Cubbies, leave the postseason to us.”

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 7:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Peña strikes out looking with a man on first

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

meanwhile at Fenway

First inning, bases loaded with Angels vs. Beckett. 2 outs.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 7:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Beckett walks a run

30 pitches.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is similar to what Carp did in the first inning against San Diego in 2006. The Angels are probably going to have a hard time scoring the rest of the game.

by CoolCat23 on Oct 5, 2008 8:01 PM EDT   0 recs

What a clusterfuck!

how important is defense? That misplay may be the end of the season for the San Bernadino Angels.

by chuckb on Oct 5, 2008 8:33 PM EDT   0 recs

What the hell does Howie Kendrick have to do

to get his ass sent to the bench? What an awful, awful baseball player.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 5, 2008 8:34 PM EDT   0 recs

In all fairness, that should have been Hunter's ball

why he quit on it, I have no idea. But, I will say that Kendrick should go for that ball until he’s called off, which it sorta looked like he was called off, but I don’t think he was. I think he wanted Hunter to take it and Hunter gave up on it.

Kendrick screwed up, but Hunter screwed up more since that’s his ball to catch and he quit assuming Kendrick would make the catch which would have been a difficult catch to make in the first place.

Lot’s of screwing up on that play.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kendrick screwed up more

he quit on the ball without being told to. You go for the ball until told ‘I got it’.

Plus, he’s a fucking waste of carbon at the plate.

Thank the GOBs for Mike Napoli. Should be 3-0.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 5, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As Kendrick strikes out again

on 3 pitches.

How can you continue to waste at-bats with this guy?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 5, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

as I said with Villone

He’s on their payroll, right?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The same way we wasted many

AB’s during the season with most of our MIF’s.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Oct 5, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But these are important games

and they would be like giving at-bats to Adam Kennedy vs a LHP on purpose. Not out of necessity.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 5, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Important now, just like our games were

neccessity, I’ll agree with.

(if alert) If we would have had a better alternative to PH (bench misuse granted), instead of using AK 6-4-3, we might’ve won a few more games, and maybe, just maybe we would be playin OCT baseball.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Oct 5, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the first 3 RBI single in postseason history

Meanwhile, apparently it’s plenty of TLC for Kendrick.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not arguing who's the better player or that Kendrick hasn't performed horribly

Because he absolutely has. But that is Hunter’s ball. Yes, Kendrick is supposed to keep going until called off which he wasn’t, but it’s still Hunter’s ball and he took the play off. The way I see it, Hunter is more to blame because it was actually his ball to catch. Kendrick’s supposed to go in case Hunter can’t get to it, but Hunter could have gotten to it but he just quit.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Always good to see this flappin in the breeze

Courtesy of cubs suck club

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Oct 5, 2008 8:51 PM EDT   0 recs

More runs, More runs!

Angels getting some XBHs. Maybe they have life in them yet!

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 5, 2008 8:58 PM EDT   0 recs

excellent fielding there

Haha, sweet. I never get tired of seeing that done well, no matter who’s on the mound for us.

87 pitches for Beckett.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 9:09 PM EDT   0 recs

bases juiced, 2 outs

“Beckett is not his normal self in this post-season.”

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thats great

i almost would like to see albert traded to philly just to see him get 495 rbis.

Smell the Glove

by emrfg8 on Oct 5, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

one of the better articles

I’ve read in a while.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Oct 5, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i wish people would mention

that pujols had 8 HR in SEP when Howard’s “11 HR in Sep” is brought up. 3 more HR in a month does not an MVP make. That, and the difference between Howard’s OPS for SEP and albert’s is half of the difference between albert and howard for the year. Seriously, a 190 OPS+ vs a 123 OPS+.

Also, Howard’s .793 OPS against the mets should be discussed. He could have done a lot more to make the Mets collapse happen a lot earlier. Howard had 12 HR in 35 games against ATL and WSN this year, which is great, but if albert played in PHI park and played those teams that many times he’d have probably 60 HR.

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Oct 5, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear Napoli is lovely in the fall

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 5, 2008 9:26 PM EDT   0 recs

How did Howie Kendrick reach base

I missed it?

And then he almost gets doubled off. I can’t make this stuff up.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 5, 2008 9:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Couldn't tell you

I’m still hung over and keep getting distracted by football and my fantasy team. I think I’m just on overload right now or something and my brain is wanting to see a different type of ridiculously overpaid genetic freaks play something a little different.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you're hung over?

I left Brandon Jacobs on the bench! What the hell is wrong with me?!?

by Evilfrog on Oct 5, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This morning I woke up

and replaced Aaron Rodgers in my lineup with Matt Schaub. I wasn’t trusting the reports about Rodgers health and it never even occurred to me to see if maybe Matt Schaub had been taken to the hospital last night because he was so sick.

But, you know what’s funny? Unless Drew Brees can put up about 40 points tomorrow night, I’ll still win my game.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 5, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm such a dumbass

I knew I shouldn’t have gotten cocky.

As soon as I write what I wrote, Roethlisbeger realized Hines Ward was still on his team and now after the touchdown, I need to hold Brees to under 27 points.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

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