The Schadenfreude Polka
Ah, what a lovely Saturday morning we have been graced with. Let us all give thanks, children. The weather is clear, the air crisp, and both the Cubs and Brewers look as if they will soon be eliminated.
Remember all the pain that we Cardinal fans were forced to endure this season, watching as the Chicago Nine had good fortune heaped upon them? Remember the shirt untucking, and the homer watching, and the simple presence of Ryan Braun? Let us all give thanks, children, a second time. It looks as if the Cardinals will remain, for another season at least, the only NL Central team with a championship in their current stadium.
It feels good, doesn't it?
All right, now let us all chastise ourselves for taking so much pleasure in the downfall of our enemies. It really isn't healthy, you know. It is, however, ever so much fun.
Our very own adopted playoff team, the Tampa Bay Rays, are also doing as well as one could possibly hope, adding to the sweetness of this young October. And after watching the Rays the first two games of the postseason, I must admit to being even more impressed with them than I was coming into the playoffs. It's one thing to have a young, talented team; it's quite another to have a young, talented team that manages to avoid the pitfalls that often cost such teams in the crunch. And, dare I say, the success of such a young team should certainly force many of us here in Cardinal country to take a long, hard look at the philosophy of our own management team.
As Cardinal fans, we hear, more often than anyone, about the necessity of having veteran players, veteran leadership, veteran this, veteran that. We constantly hear about the distrust of young players, whether it's an unwillingness to commit to a young fireballer as your closer, preferring instead to run a glorified middle reliever out in the ninth inning over and over, or the sight of a speedy young rocket scientist sitting on the bench, while veteran utility players run around the outfield, diving and missing for everything in sight. We are treated to the return of Miguel Cairo, and why? Not because he offers any particular skill set that the team truly needs, not because he represents some sort of upgrade over the current personnel, not even because he fills a position of need. No, we see him because the manager trusts him.
In our poll the other day, regarding who the VEB faithful should adopt as our October rooting interest, we received 1366 votes total. The Rays were a runaway train, garnering 825 votes, for a 60% slice of the pie. The Dodgers were runners up, with eleven percent of the vote, at 151 tallies. The Angels and White Sox were numbers three and four, respectively, with 101 and 99 votes, respectively.
Now, I'm sure there are lots of reasons people voted for the Rays. They're young, exciting, mostly homegrown, and they're flat out fun to watch. Of course, there are also some other possible reasons; i.e. they're completely removed from us ever having to root against them, barring a WS matchup, they haven't beaten our team in a meaningful way for us to hold a grudge, and they play in the same division as the teams that tend to evoke the most jealousy of any in baseball, the Scrooges and the Marleys.
Overall, though, I think the reason that most people voted for them is that many of us here value the way that their team is put together. We like teams that are mostly grown through the farm system. We like seeing young, talented players who are still excited just to be playing the game. My only question, then, is whether or not everybody here thinks we'll be able to see a team of our own with those qualities that we seemingly enjoy here any time soon?
We heard so much last offseason, and even into spring training, about the new direction that the club was taking. Tony La Russa talked at great length about how much he actually preferred a young, hungry club, much to our collective surprise. It seemed like everyone was on the same page. Truly, a welcome antidote to the turmoil and infighting that so characterized the last days of the Walt Jocketty regime.
Now, at the end of the very same season, where do we find ourselves? We had demands for trades for veteran, impact players. We have talk of the team's supposed closer of the future spending next season back in Memphis in favour of another season from the closer of the past. Worse, we hear talk that said young pitcher is being told to change the way he pitches, to work down in the zone more, to get on top of the ball, to stay more vertical, et cetera. We even hear talk of a disconnect between the on field management and the front office, a fundamental philosophical difference. To me, that's all more than a little bit worrisome.
Obviously, I don't necessarily want the Cardinals to be the Tampa Bay Rays. The Rays are a team that had to endure season after season of agonisingly bad play before finally reaching a point where it looks like they may have some real success for a while. The Cardinals shouldn't ever have to go through such an extended period of poor play, not with the fan base and resources they have. But still, with the Cards' long time pitching coach and managerial confidante signing a new contract yesterday, I think it's probably a fair question to ask. Do we, as fans, really see this team moving toward being the kind of team that we love to root for? Or do we see more of the same, with the same pitfalls looming up ahead that put the Cards into such a hole leading into the 2007 season? Does the team's philosophy truly match our own?
Or, heck, maybe I'm just reading way too much into all of this and grasping at straws to find something to write about on a Saturday morning in October. You could always just go with that, too, if you really dislike what I write. Either way.
I'll be back a bit later on with a game thread for the day's playoff action. Have a nice day, everyone.
Oh, and one other thing. This will most likely be my final Saturday post. Thanks to all of you who have made the assignment rewarding enough to justify having to actually drag my carcass out of the sweet, stuporous embrace of a Saturday morning to try and string together some coherent thoughts. Sadly, I find my energy simply unequal to the task of a full time gig over at the RFT, two days here, and the every once in a while that I have a chance to toss off something over at Future Redbirds. Something had to give. Thanks again, everybody.
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first comment
sweet
"Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election. In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers," she said. "And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change."-Sarah Palin
by showmejoe on Oct 4, 2008 10:00 AM EDT 0 recs
don't do that, this isn't a blog for idiots
i love seeing the cubs lose and their fans freak out sweeps just make for boring playoff baseball. i would really love to see both the cubs and brewers now lose in 5.
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on
Oct 4, 2008 10:39 AM EDT
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+1
“First” makes me think this is BCB.
I agree, the sweeps are cool but there’s a surplus of them. I’d rather the Cubbies were swept than the Crew, though. I’d much rather watch a hard-fought Philly v. Milwaukee series than Chicago/LA. Smacks of grit. And maybe the Philly fans got a clue that productive at-bats = exciting.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on
Oct 4, 2008 10:50 AM EDT
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quit whining
It’s a freaking fan blog, who cares? I read through hundreds of mindless posts on this site. I didn’t realize there was a blog etiquette against posting unserious comments. For example there is a regular on this site that will make any word possible into something realated to a cow- by the way moocow, I enjoy it- get over yourself and go read a Wall Street Journal
"Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election. In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers," she said. "And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change."-Sarah Palin
by showmejoe on
Oct 4, 2008 11:32 AM EDT
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Worth noting.
That said cow packs a lot of thoughtful content into his mooing.
I agree with ya, showmejoe, that a little fluff doesn’t hurt anything and the rest of us aren’t always the pinacle of analyisis BUT attacking another poster by name is in poor taste.
-- Aidan Sonoda
In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas.
by Aidan Sonoda on
Oct 4, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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I didn't attack Moo Cow
I actually said I liked Moo Cows posts.
"Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election. In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers," she said. "And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change."-Sarah Palin
by showmejoe on
Oct 5, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
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might want to change that sig
with your attitude, too.
hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit
by Alxfritz on
Oct 4, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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obviously we care
the “first!” thing is silly in the game threads, but those are just game threads. People expect more out of the main posts.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 4, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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hundreds of mindless posts?
I’ll disagree quite stringently with that one. There are a few, I’ll grant you, but the overwhelming majority are pretty damned thoughtful. We disagree a bit here; that’s what this is for. But you’ll find “hundreds of mindless posts” on the p-d pages, not here.
by chuckb on
Oct 4, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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I guess you don't consider the little.....
Inside jokes that get run into the ground to be mindless?
Relax. This is suppose to be for fun.
by SoonerfanTU on
Oct 4, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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Nope
Nor the ones where you bathe TLR’s feet with fine perfumes.
by azruavatar on
Oct 4, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
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Man I'm getting confused
by who’s gonna write when and where.
Was Young Pitcher actually told to work down in the zone and to change the way he pitches? I hadn’t heard that. I’ll say go light some candles and hope this isn’t Reyes 2 – The Horror Comes Back.
by sdrone on Oct 4, 2008 10:06 AM EDT 0 recs
I hadn
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 10:58 AM EDT
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I hadn't heard that either
Well, of course other than from speculators around here.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 10:58 AM EDT
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Duncan was quoted as saying he just needed a few tweaks
high arm slot
work lower in the zone
by DriverZn on
Oct 4, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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I am dissapointed
that we will have to watch another season of TLR throwing a temper tantrum if he doesn’t get his way. Of course he loves having young hungry players, if we are winning the division. If the team has impact injuries, which it always will, he wants the team to go out and get a “proven” veteran to take his place. Ankiel goes down, he wants Holliday; Izzy goes crazy, he wants Fuentes; if the front office doesn’t comply then he trots sub-par MIFs into the outfield, plays second basemen at third, and uses a set up man as closer. he is the stereotypical kid down on the floor kicking and screaming if he doesn’t get the toy he wants. Pathetic!
"Here's how I look at the choice Americans face in this election. In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers," she said. "And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change."-Sarah Palin
by showmejoe on Oct 4, 2008 10:07 AM EDT 0 recs
for slightly different reasons
I am also not happy LaRussa is coming back. I phrase it that way because this is the third straight off-season I have have had a hunger for a Mike Matheny or a Ken Oberfell to take over.
I had hoped Tony would retire or move on after the ‘06 miracle (go out a winner) with {from HIS point of view} his middle finger out to the fans who razed him and second-guessed him for 10 plus years. But he came back.
I had hoped he would move to greener pastures after the ’07 campaign, since he would be coming back with a team short on the veterans that he prefers and with the team in a quasi ’rebuilding’ year (especially the questionable starting pitching). But he came back.
In some respects, he squeezed blood out of a turnip this year (beat the spread, if you will) but not without the border-line intemperance and strange managerial moves as noted by showmejoe above.
Alas, the third time is NOT charm. It really is time for Tony to move on, or for this somewhat different (from the past) Cardinal club to get new helmsmanship. I will automatically be less enthused this off season than normal because of the specter of his return. Shucks.
by the Tewk on
Oct 4, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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Or, heck, maybe I’m just reading way too much into all of this and grasping at straws to find something to write about on a Saturday morning in October. You could always just go with that, too, if you really dislike what I write. Either way.
I choose that.
I don’t think the disconnect is as bad as everybody thinks. And nobody knows exactly what management’s plan is to begin with. I find it hard to believe, that whether Tony was asking for it or not, that mangement wouldn’t be looking to shake some things up this winter. This team has a chance with a couple of improvements, to be very solid next year. Why wouldn’t we try to fill in those holes?
Would love to see us go after Peavy or Halladay this offseason. That, coupled with signing a good bullpen arm or two, and doing something with the SS position, and I think we’re every bit as good as the cubbies were this year…..assuming health of course.
by SoonerfanTU on Oct 4, 2008 10:18 AM EDT 0 recs
I fully expect to hear at some point
“Getting Carpenter back healthy will be just like adding a big ticket free agent starting pitcher”
I think TLR probably has a pretty realistic idea of what they’re going to be able to do in terms of offensive upgrade at SS and 2B, so I can understand his desire to add an impact bat as well. Its doubtful we’ll add NL average offense at both spots; more likely improved but below average. The only other place we can realistically anticipate making a big OPS upgrade is Skippy’s OF spot. Adding 60 points of OPS there could offset the shortfall in the MI.
I hope they go FA for the bat rather than dealing Rasmus et all for it. Milton Bradley at first glance seems the best option if he truly ends of a type B free agent.
by vances law on
Oct 4, 2008 10:43 AM EDT
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Building from within
is a great idea if your farm system has the players you need! Is there a young “impact” bat or MI improvement in the system? If so, let’s see ‘em! If not, then the Cards (or any other club) has to look elsewhere. TLR had no problem letting Mike Matheny walk to play Yadier Molina; and Tony invented ways to keep Albert in the lineup (admittedly, Albert’s a unique player)!
In an ideal world, Chris Perez would lose about 10 pounds, and grab a choke-hold on the closer’s spot in ST. If Rasmus is ready to be the leadoff hitter next year, Skip could be part of a trade package… there are several teams who could use his glove in CF, and where his OPS would be perfectly adequate.
Adding Milton Bradley would be problematical… his legs won’t let him play the outfield anymore.
It’s gonna be interesting!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
Oct 4, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
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Bradley
he had a knee operation to repair a torn ACL but should be rehabbed enough by next season to play OF
FWIW he played 20 games in the OF for the stRangers this year
19 games in RF
36 outs on 42 balls in zone for a RZR of .857
6 ooz in 157 innings
1 game in LF 1 play 3 biz
“The Fort Worth Star-Telegram’s Gil Lebreton reports Texas Rangers OF Milton Bradley said he wants a long-term deal and wants to be paid like one of the elite players in the game. Citing wanting to take care of his mom, Bradley said if anyone only offers him a one-year deal, he’d be fed up and quit baseball.”
by vances law on
Oct 4, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
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I guess I should add
I like the idea of adding an impact bat
but if we do, I’d prefer not to part with a first round pick
if I have to, I’d rather part with our #1 in 2009
rather than our #1 in 2005: at least not the one named Rasmus
unrelated: looking at rule V draft possibilities……I guessing the Cards don’t protect McCormick but probably will protect Greene
by vances law on
Oct 4, 2008 1:06 PM EDT
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There's at least 1 young "impact" bat
ready for the bigs and I fully expect Tony to do everything he can to push for his trade this offseason.
by chuckb on
Oct 4, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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There is almost certainly.....
No guarantee that Rasmus would out-produce any of our current OF’s, especially to the point of making that “out-producing” be an impact.
by SoonerfanTU on
Oct 4, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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Rasmus should be given that chance though
does anyone really doubt that he will be more of an impact bat than Skip?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 4, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
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I don't know if TLR wants him traded
he just doesn’t want to start him and count on him next season.
Internally, I actually think Mather could be a 60 OPS upgrade over Skippy net season
by vances law on
Oct 4, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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In fairness
Getting Carp back healthy WOULD be just like adding a top FA. The problem isn’t that getting him back healthy is overrated; it’s that getting him back healthy is unlikely.
If I could ask for a single thing from this off season, it wouldn’t be an impact bat or arm, it would be improved medical work — or more accurately, improved awareness of what the medical situation implies. I’ve heard from various sources that the Cardinals’ medical staff is actually considered pretty good by others in the business. However, there seems to be a continuing lack of realism on the part of the team as to exactly what their medical situation is and what it means. If they can improve that, it’ll help as much as an impact bat would.
by StanTheManFan on
Oct 4, 2008 11:34 AM EDT
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Well said.
I’m happy wade through the losing streaks and the rough patches with my team. They can be disheartening, but they never make me want to stop watching. It’s all part of the game and, really, I wouldn’t have it any other way. But the medical issues or more accurately the perceived handling of same, is the single most aggravating thing about the Cardinals.
-- Aidan Sonoda
In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas.
by Aidan Sonoda on
Oct 4, 2008 12:11 PM EDT
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I’m happy wade through the losing streaks and the rough patches with my team
Say that in a 100 Years
Cubs Fan
by FlimtotheFlam on
Oct 4, 2008 12:21 PM EDT
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hmmm.
1. cheap shot
2. off topic
3. content?
and one last thing: Don’t Ever Call Me That Again
Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde.
j/k, but seriously: Cubs Fan? Ouch.
-- Aidan Sonoda
In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas.
by Aidan Sonoda on
Oct 4, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
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this was largely what I meant
None of us has a problem with counting on Carp if he is healthy
the issue is counting on him to be healthy
not real reassuring when the med staff says his current condition is without precedent in the history of organized leisure activities involving bats and balls
by vances law on
Oct 4, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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I am going to make a recommendation right now
anyone who actually uses the "Getting Carpenter back healthy will be just like adding a big ticket free agent starting pitcher" type of line and thinking that is going to happen is just worthy of a slapdown, or a flagging.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 4, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
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+1
Is it fraud when Cubs ownership says "this year is our year?" Can somebody sue for that?
by thegodfather on
Oct 4, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
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or a flogging
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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but people who will make statements like that
might like the floggings. Masochists!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 4, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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I was just pondering yesterday
what is the opposite of schadenfreude?
what’s it called when you feel empathy for your enemy when bad things happen to them?
while I look forward to hearing the blubbering Santo “It’s just so disappointing, Pat, because the expectations were so high,” I also feel a twinge of guilt over it.
but I’ll get over it………..Cubs! Woo! Lose! Woo!
by vances law on Oct 4, 2008 10:32 AM EDT 0 recs
There must be something wrong with me then
because this guilt you speak of seems like it’s written in some foreign language to me.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 11:10 AM EDT
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I feel bad for the infirm and the children
Won’t someone think of the children.
But otherwise… it’s not like there’s not another team in the city.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on
Oct 4, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
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I don't feel bad
for the children – they might possibly live long enough to see the Cubs win it all in their lifetimes. It is the elderly and infirm, the ones whose time is growing short, that have my sympathy. But I can’t work up enough sympathy to actually root for the Cubs to win!
by cardsgirl95 on
Oct 4, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
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There were a couple of posts and Fan Posts
over at bcb by people talking about how they felt guilty because they’re children had followed them into cubdom and were destined for a life of disappointment.
Sometimes that site is the best source of comedy on the net.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
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OMG!
That is too funny, I am LOLing over here
by FlimtotheFlam on
Oct 4, 2008 11:48 AM EDT
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I hadn't looked at it from
that vantage point. But that is what they deserve for being Cub fans in the first place! J/K!
by cardsgirl95 on
Oct 4, 2008 11:48 AM EDT
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Whenever someone tells me they are a Cub Fan
I tell them in my best your grandma just died voice “I am so sorry for your loss”
by FlimtotheFlam on
Oct 4, 2008 11:55 AM EDT
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that is pretty hilarious
i’ve been loving their fanposts the last few days.
by adiueordie on
Oct 4, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
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For some reason,
I’m finding it hard to “warm up” to the Rays. Oh, I have no problem with their ballclub… all those years of being absolutely horrible have paid off with great drafts and outstanding young talent. Joe Maddon has done a marvelous job inserting a few vets who know how to win (Troy Percival, Cliff Floyd) into the mix. Heck, they’ve even got Silent George Hendrick as their first-base coach!
I guess I just can’t root for a team, even a good one, that doesn’t draw flies (until the playoffs started), plays in a crummy domed stadium in freakin’ Florida, and was abysmally run until an ownership change… but I don’t wanna see the (expletive) Red Sawks in the Series again, either! Oh, well…
As for the NLDS, once again, the Northsiders are proving that they’re Still The Cubs! (Patent Pending)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Oct 4, 2008 10:44 AM EDT 0 recs
Interesting tidbit regarding that dome
It was built for the White Sox.
There was rumors/threats that Jerry Reinsdorf would move the Sox to St. Petersburg unless he could get the city of Chicago to build him a new stadium. What ended up happening was he got two towns to build him stadiums and apparently neither of them had the foresight to be the first “retro” park in the mlb because that came about a year later in Baltimore. Colossal mistake.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 11:13 AM EDT
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Andrew Friedmand and Gerry Hunsicker
have done tremendous things for that franchise. You’re right about the stadium and their fans but i don’t hold that against the players. And I will defend the fans a little — every franchise that goes through years and years of losing hemorhages fans — look at the Pirates and the Royals, for example. People can talk about new ballparks, and exciting players or managers, but the only thing that consistently puts butts in the seats is winning.
The Rays have a good thing going and should be able to build on it. This is their first hurrah, not their last. Hopefully, they’ll see their attendance continue to go up over the next few years.
by chuckb on
Oct 4, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
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Man we are in a blogger recession
Between you all leaving Viva and losing two over at Consumerist, I am very sad :(
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 4, 2008 11:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Suspend the blog campaign!
hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit
by Alxfritz on
Oct 4, 2008 11:18 AM EDT
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Do I have this right?
Lboros, RB, and Azuruavatar left so we got HC and …. anyone?
by FlimtotheFlam on
Oct 4, 2008 11:22 AM EDT
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who are the call-ups?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on
Oct 4, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
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You Are!
Gets to work on a much needed Fan Post
by FlimtotheFlam on
Oct 4, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
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but I only have one pitch
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on
Oct 4, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
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repertoire includes zingers
But they still miss location.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on
Oct 4, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
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great stuff but no control
must be the franklins talkin’
by vances law on
Oct 4, 2008 12:22 PM EDT
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Your new nickname is Kip Wells.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 1:39 PM EDT
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I guess right now it's just HC and DanUp
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Oct 4, 2008 11:47 AM EDT
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RB will still be on every Wednesday
DanUp’s going to be taking over Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday. LB’s leaving some big shoes to fill, but DanUp’s strong.
by chuckb on
Oct 4, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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so Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays belong to you?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 4, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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oh, I lied
I have Thursday and DanUp has Friday. Then I’ll have the weekends. Hard to keep all this stuff straight right now.
by chuckb on
Oct 4, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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Maybe it would be a good idea once a week
Where one of us submits a post. We could give to you ahead of time and you guys have more than one choice at a time. So you are not completely reliant in case person backs out.
Instead of us just putting up a fan post it would give you guys some leeway so not too much pressure is on you guys to come up with something everyday especially in the off season.
by FlimtotheFlam on
Oct 4, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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so Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays belong to you?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Oct 4, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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red baron, you will still be posting
on Wednesdays, right? Right?
by cardsgirl95 on Oct 4, 2008 11:45 AM EDT 0 recs
please!
another sad day in a series of sad days…
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on
Oct 4, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
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