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World Series Game 4 Open Thread

The Rays need to win tonight. They get Hamels tomorrow night, so if they don't win tonight, they may not get back home. If they win tonight, they're going home and have a chance. Big game for the Rays.

Last night's game ended really strangely. First, Upton ties the game w/o a ball leaving the infield -- infield hit, steals 2nd, steals 3rd, scores on error by the catcher on the throw to third. Then Eric Bruntlett scored the game-winning run w/o a ball leaving the infield -- HBP, wild pitch, goes to third on error by catcher, scores on a dribbler hit by the guy who made the error in the top of the inning.

3 pretty good games. Hopefully tonight will be a 4th and, for the sake of those of us who want a long series -- go Rays.

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Surely the Rays will win tonight, right?

If not, and with Hamels going tomorrow, the baseball gods look to have handed us a 5th consecutive lopsided World Series…

by LukeMP1186 on Oct 26, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that the games haven't been competitive...

but we haven’t seen so much as a Game 6 since the Marlins and Beckett beat the Yankees in 2003…

by LukeMP1186 on Oct 26, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO

RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I learned my lesson.

Be careful what you wish for…..you might just get it.

Thanks Patti for completely butchering the Star Spangled Banner.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

No joke...that was brutal

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously...

I didn’t know it was possible to NOT know the words to our anthem that badly…

by Big Rev on Oct 26, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I'm watching on a bum leg

I managed to fall and snag my ankle on some furniture at the same time. Nothing serious but boy I am ready for some WS.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

just wow….how could he have missed that call?!?

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

he avoids looking at guys' behinds?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the heck just happened

Going to the wrong base, Longo gets the play in, and … wtf blue.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Shades of 2006

Simple mistakes are costing the AL team. For some reason though, I liked it better when they screwed up back then…weird

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

when they screwed up then

They didn’t have it down, except for Rogers, to the point where they folded under pressure. Pure comedy gold.

This time both teams are executing or not-executing at the same rate. It’s just not falling to the Rays. It’s not tragic yet, but if they drop this one, will be soon.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Kenny sure did have it down ;)

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

punchline

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw, the Spiezio stripe

Good memories!

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tragedy ensuing......

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it does help

the Phils that these games are more like 7 innings, thanks to their ’pen.

Win or lose the Series, I’m still holding out for a beautiful Lidge moment, though.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I go talking about Sonnastine

In the previous thread, I start talking up Sonnastine, and then lo and behold, he has a rough first inning. I’ll just keep my mouth shut now :)

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Oct 26, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe it was a missed sign

But what if Maddon wanted to put in their heads that it might be a bunt, except of course it would be crazy to have the (not-so-quick) catcher put down a 2-out bunt, so of course not, except Maddon is some kind of crazy?

Am I the only one who thinks the mind-games are awesome? If only because no one ever tries these things, and I want to see it in action. I just doubt the Phillies would be fooled.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it is now

how does Ramirez when that award? Who in their right mind thought he was the top offensive player in the National League?

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 26, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000000

A-Ram…WTF?!?

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ARam?!!

Man, I can accept that the Cubs have an edge in our division, but I’m getting sick of their fans ballot-stuffing. Hardware is nice, but ASGs “count”.

Also there better not be a plane-load of Cubs on the way here come All-Star time.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we'll be

at the very least Fukudome-less…even the cubs fans are turning on him, but who could blame them? Waste of money.

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 26, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey almost forgot

This means our ASG managers are set, right? Predictions? Will the NL drought end?
(Here’s Hugo’s fanpost)

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

pitcher got a hit?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

say it ain't so Aki

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I've seen 3 replays of that grounder

and the only “funny hop” i’ve seen is the one it took off Iwamura’s glove.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

if they say it enough times, it'll be true

- Fox

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this camera work ever ever going to improve?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Not until TBS gets the WS.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not effin 1960s Batman

Like I said, dream playoffs broadcast would be TBS’s personnel and Fox’s tech. And more local guys.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

zobrist

looks like a pretty good outfielder, its like he’s played on a TLR team or something

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

by Dave Barry on Oct 26, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

isn't he the bench utility guy?

That does sound familiar.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

every time

i think about acquiring a middle infielder, i ask myself, what we he be like in the outfield

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

by Dave Barry on Oct 26, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

we've been brainwashed

Our bench has been so deep for so long, it’s a diving pool.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it ought to be tasteless that they keep playing nursery music

For the Rays. Yet I’m still laughing.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Buck points out stuff that keeps happening

that happens in every game and he makes it seem important.

That ball did not almost pop out of Barlett’s glove, no more than any other ball almost pops out of a fielder’s glove on any other fly ball.

Yet, with the out already recorded, Joe tried to give it some drama.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 26, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

still better than Chip

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

this WS

I had a deep thought about the Rays relaxing on defense and the Phillies relaxing on offense.

Mostly I think it’ll come down to which team doesn’t beat itself. It’s almost not a head-to-head match-up… more like speed trial guys trying to get the best time. It’s just you and the mountain.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

mmmm homer

And yet no men on base.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

At least it's something.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, Iwamura's getting no breaks

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

"He really didn't extend his arms"

News flash Joe. Extending your arms does nothing to help your power. Actually, it probably decreases it.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Another pet peeve

It absolutely ruffles my feathers when I hear former ballplayers make excuse after excuse about errors. “If it stays down it shouldn’t be an error.” WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

This whole post-season could use Yadier

Or any Molina. I’m convinced most of those pitching coach meetings would be Yadi’s mound meetings, and they’d only last thirty seconds.

Don’t get me started on pick-offs.

At least these guys are young, they’ll get seasoned. Maybe in a few years there’ll be a glut of game-managing catchers to be GG-blocked by Yadi.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

so do we get a free cheesesteak?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Ohhh

That would be a great promotion. Taco Tuesday, Cheessteak wednesday.

by davethebutcher on Oct 26, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell yeah

Take advantage of low ratings, I say!

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

fly ball homeruns

getcha everytime in philly

Smell the Glove

by emrfg8 on Oct 26, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

shane "gotitgotitgotitgotit" victorino

That doesn’t look right…..

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

that was a beaut

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

big game eric?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

touchy touchy

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

drank the meyers kool aid

I knew he’d do it as soon as Buck went on about his season drought. Way to go National League!

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

what took you so long?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Oct 26, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding

I started and concluded about 15 years ago.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he untuck

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did not want to know that

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

How in the world does Edwin Jackson struggle?

He’s got 97 with life, a nasty slider and decent command. That’s Chad Billingsley not Jason Marquis.

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .257 .359 .379
Skip Schumaker: $Free .302 .359 .406
Skippy needs a new publicist, but I heart Ben Zobrist

by joker24 on Oct 26, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

i've been trying to figure that out myself

whats even more amazing, he doesn’t strike out hardly anybody

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

by Dave Barry on Oct 26, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

30 min ago MLB reported about that stuff on Blanton's hat

link

No mention of it from Fox, right? After 7 innings. As opposed to ’06 when they went to the close-up almost before anyone saw it.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

^ anyone else

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you recording the postseason games too

or just Cardinal games?

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed it in the 5th inning

Just now, still there.

I’m kind of hopped up on the good drugs right now, so I thought it was… dirt.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

now or never Rays!!!

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll settle for a walk and Carlos waking up

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

turn out the lights

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

what say you tackle box

I missed his service.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

^branch

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going both ways with this one

I learned my lesson when Patti LaBelle sang the Anthem, so I’m gonna cut this guy some slack. Overall, I liked the presentation and I kinda liked the voice. But I sorta sounded like a “voice he was making” as opposed to “his voice”.

Then again, his competition isn’t really all that steep. Best so far.

Oh and he was a Staff Sargent from the Army.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah thanks

Ought’ve kept track from the beginning of postseason. See which service is winning. Or not sucking as much.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously Evan

I wasn’t going to say single-handedly losing it, but I’m getting there.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

IWAMURA

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

PENA

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos has had to fish out some crazy ones

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate you fox

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 26, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

evan longoria

doing his ryan ludwick impersonation

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Oct 26, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

lot of similarities

when he’s good, he’s good; when he sucks he sucks

by the Tewk on Oct 26, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially

low and away

albeit, not as bad as ank

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Oct 26, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much for a bunch of close games....

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep it hangin' Victorino

even your teammates don’t give you high fives.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 26, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

it ain't over

how often have we seen a team get shut out the day after an offensive explosion like this? If the Rays can just get back to St. Pete, they’re still in it; altho’ they ARE beginning to look like the Colorado of ’08.

by the Tewk on Oct 26, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

They are toast.

It is over. Their 2 thru 4 hitters are providing nothing offensively.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 26, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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