The Cardinals and Injuries
After the 2007 season, I took an extended look at the Cardinals injuries in that season. If memory serves, I believe 22 of 25 opening day starters were hurt at some point throughout the year. That was 88% of the roster from Opening Day.
In 2008, the Cardinals were similarly hurt. Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright (the club's two aces) missed time due to injury. The rotation also had Todd Wellemeyer and Braden Looper miss a little bit of time to the injury bug. The bullpen was in shambles because of injuries to Josh Kinney, Tyler Johnson, Jason Isringhausen, (and others?). Also, nobody needs to be reminded of Mark Mulder's season(s).
In the field this season, Yadier Molina, Albert Pujols, and most of the outfield was injured for parts of the season. It is not nearly as extensive a list this year as last. That is a good thing.
Lastly, in the minors/majors department, one Colby Rasmus went down with an injury AND we already know that Jaime Garcia and Mike Parisi are probably lost for the entire season in 2009.
My questions, then, are:
Why are the Cardinals so injury plagued? Are we targeting players with higher risk of injury somehow? Are we not doing a good job of preventing injuries? Are our GM's gullible in trading for injured players? Are we taking riskier chances on free agent acquisitions?
How can the Cardinals franchise, as a whole, become more preventive in health care of their employees? There is not much use in having a Chris Carpenter, Mark Mulder, Mark McGwire, Jim Edmonds etc. to long-term contracts in which we pay players to sit on the bench (thank goodness McGwire retired when he did and pretty much gave the Cardinals salary cap to work with.)
In essence, what is going on and how can we fix it?
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The cards have had lots of injuries
But I really don’t think there’s much anyone can do about it that’s not already being done. As much as we (myself included) like to harp on Dr. Paletta and the medical staff every time one of our guys goes down, it’s not really their fault. If it ever was, they would be sued for malpractice. Doctors don’t make huge mistakes that often, especially on high-profile athletes.
What would be more revealing is if there were a specific injury that was common just to the cardinals over the past few years. Or maybe even a comparison between the number of injuries to starters of all teams in baseball over the past couple of years. After all, anyone that pretends to know why the cards have been injured a lot lately is kidding themselves, so opinions on the subject are next to worthless unless coming from an organizational insider.
Is it fraud when Cubs ownership says "this year is our year?" Can somebody sue for that?
Just because we've had
a lot of injuries over the past few years, I don’t think we can put the blame on anyone. Baseball is a sport that wears you down. These guys play 162 game seasons, they have spring training, and some play in winter ball. Not to mention, the World Baseball Classic is going to add games under their belts, but ST is being adjusted to accomodate this.
Other teams have injuries just like we do. Look at the Dodgers this year: Furcal, Nomar, Pierre, and A. Jones all missed significant time. The Braves: C. Jones, Hudson, Smoltz, Glavine, and Hampton all hurt at some point.
Basically, what I’m saying is injuries happen. Players take precautions (it’s not like they aren’t out there stretching before every game and warming up) The medical staff does the best job it can to prevent them, but sometimes injuries are just inevitable.
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
hopefully then we'll regress to the mean
in injuries next season
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 22, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it may have been joe strauss that covered the same subject and concluded that the cards weren’t snakebit much worse that their competitors. that being said, i wonder about a few related things. why do the cards keep counting on recovering players? particularly pitchers when their track record has been so poor. secondly, why do they consistently mishandle the press? there is more misunderstanding with injuries and the cardinal press corp than there should be. i wish someone could do an expose on their medical program, but i don’t think that is in the cards. no pun intended.
victim of the sixties
by victim of the sixties on Oct 22, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
why do the cards keep counting on recovering players?
Because it’s the organization’s firm stance to continue to shop the “refurbished bin at Radio Shack” rather than shop for the “new models at Best Buy”. They think they can get lucky and have their repair man (Dave Duncan) fix it and it will work like new!!
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
the cards
aren’t the only team that suffers with injuries,
take the nats for example, Ryan Zimmerman, Nick Johnson (their main 3-4 hitters) were basically lost for almost the entire season, Chad Cordero (superb closer) lost for the whole season, Guzman was injured, Dimitri Young Injured, Belliard injured, Estrada, Paul Lo Duca were injured. And their main guys they traded for in the offseason, Lastings Milledge, Elijiah Dukes were injured at some point in the season. Wily Mo Pena was injured, Austin Kearns spent time on the DL, Shawn Hill (great starter when he’s healthy) was off and on with injuries, they got rid of patterson cuz of how often he’s been injured the last 3 years.
They basically played with AA or AAA guys for a majority of the season which explained their pathetic win total compared to 07 (still bad, but it’s the nats) but this also explained why they never had offense.
So don’t get angry if ludwick, pujols, glaus, ankiel, etc go down with an injury at some point because everyday players play 140+ games a season and it’s just more opportunities for them to get injured.
Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)
Cards & Paletta
While the Cards’ problems may be above average, they aren’t too far above the mean.
Also, do you blame your mechanic when your car breaks down? Maybe if he tried to fix it the first time, but generally not.
Mistaken?
I was not trying to place blame on anyone with what I wrote. I was trying to figure out if anyone had any more concrete evidence than I about any of it. Also, I didn’t know if it was odd to have this many injuries. I know that in 2007, when 88% of the opening day 25 man roster went down at some point during the year…that was odd. This year, maybe just the impact of the injuries was worse…I dunno.
Truthfully, I believe that the organization is going after too many reclamation projects at once. I think that they are relying too heavily on TLR and Duncan’s past and not enough on getting capable bodies to play the field and take the mound every day. Part of this is because our farm system is just starting to get to the point where we can throw a lot more cheap players onto the team and part of it is the continual rising cost of free agents from season to season.
I’m sure I’m forgetting something…but oh well.
Yep
“Truthfully, I believe that the organization is going after too many reclamation projects at once. I think that they are relying too heavily on TLR and Duncan’s past and not enough on getting capable bodies to play the field and take the mound every day.”
I certainly agree with this.
You can have some hope of fixing head case reclamation projects (but there’s always going to be a Kip Wells), but mechanics-induced reclamation projects are a much tougher deal. Also, Dunc can improve a guy’s approach, what pitches he throws, and how he throws them, but he really isn’t in a position to fix a guy’s mechanics (because that is a very big task).
The real answer is, as the Cards seem to be doing of late, to draft for good mechanics.

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