NLCS Game 3 Open Thread
I'd expect the Dodgers to win tonight's game. These 2 teams are just too evenly matched for this series to be a blowout. I'd still expect at least 6 games here, if Torre does the right thing and starts Kershaw tomorrow. Kuroda should do fine tonight, the Dodgers' pen finishes it off, and the series is on serve heading into game 4 tomorrow. (knock on wood!)
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ot whoa
…did the Rams… win today?
Maybe they’ll have a chance against Mizzou.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They didn't win
the Redskins beat themselves.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a relief
Was about to check if cats and dogs were living together.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redskins lost the game
because with 16 seconds left to go in the first half, from the 15 yard line, Jason Campbell threw a pass that was tipped straight up into the air, the Right Tackle caught it, nearly dropped it, secured it and started trying to run with it. The Rams then put a helmet on the ball, it popped out and they returned it 75 yards for a TD to end the half up 10-7.
The Skins had 22 first downs to the Rams 8. The Skins had 368 yards, Rams 208. The Skins had 3 Fumbles lost, Rams had 0.
It was like “How badly can we beat a team without scoring or winning the game”.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garciaparra over Loney?
are you f-ing kidding me? Newsflash: Garciaparra sucks and Moyer has no platoon split. Absurd!
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was that AB vs Lidge
Joe got a ‘feelin’ in his belly about Nomar.
He forgot that was just exploding diarrhea from his wheat grass.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the Dodgers need someone to wave at sliders off the plate
I can duplicate that Nomar vs. Lidge AB.
by random on Oct 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
Ray Charles would have had a better chance of hitting those sliders than Garciaparra did.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you know how painful it is to shoot chili through your nose??
ow….
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looked to me as if Loney hits offspeed stuff better than real heat
I would have thunk he matched up pretty well against Moyer despite the lefty-lefty.
by random on Oct 12, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize Moyer stopped using the slider
about the time he came back to the NL. I’ve probably been mistaking cutters for sliders.
Fangraphs is unspeakably wonderful.
by random on Oct 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's becoming one of the first places
I turn when I need some #
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess Billingsley wouldn't last long with TLR...
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Hardcore

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's cold
Hey the Chiefs didn’t lose today either! If only Mizzou hadn’t of lost, then this would have been a perfect week for football in MO.
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
by RunninRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm just messin'
Whodathunkit?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yesterday's news
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The St. Louis Rams franchise?
You ain’t kiddin.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey You Guys!

Can’t we all just get along?
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
by RunninRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mary hart = scary
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers lefties
1-1 off Moyer tonight. Loney benched for Garciaparra.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jamie moyer = even more ancient in hd
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some people look great in HD
some look awful. Jamie Moyer looks awful.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the stubble does him no favors
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we could be watching his last game ever
probably not, hopefully not, but it could be. Esp if the dodgers somehow manage to win this series.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nomar came this close to shutting everyone up.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But, alas
he strikes out lookin’ and you look fine….so far.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you weren't the only one thinking it.
I’ll never forgive Loney for that solo HR he hit in the bottom of the ninth against AW two years ago to give us a 1-0 loss.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I loved that grand slam he hit off Ryan Dempster.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to be that girl,
but Loney hit a two run homer off of Wainwright in the top of the ninth on 8/10/07. Yadi drove in a run in the bottom of the ninth and we lost 2-1.
The slam against Dempster was pretty sweet though.
by cardsgirl95 on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that makes it even more painful
thanks for correcting my bad memory ;)
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 14, 2008 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn but I appreciate our outfield
being smart + throwing strikes. phils’ d seems so complacent.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dangit furcal
stop making yourself more expensive.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just said the same thing to my roommate
He was in the next room over and Furcal went yard, and I yelled to him, “Bad news for the Cardinals!”
by mojowo11 on Oct 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cha-ching
I’d like to be Furcal’s agent right about now.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
going going gone
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaand, Bill DeWitt just crossed Furcal
off the off-season list.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Better off.
His injury history is very scary.
by njnick on Oct 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
It’s not nearly as scary as a lot of people would lead you to believe.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love having this game on FOX
can avoid Frank TV commercials for the time being…
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
by RunninRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that Moyer is gone
can we stop the farce and put Loney back in?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is McCarver towering over Buck?
Is that in his contract?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe he should get off his high ... chair
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Gang banger sitting behind home plate Batman.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you pretty much have to be a gangster
to afford tickets in that part of the stadium. It’s ridiculous even in the regular season.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when's the brawl scheduled?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
next season
throwing at a hitter right now would be moronic.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to the Phillies
who keep doing it.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
point exactly
Wouldn’t put it past either team.
And there we go! Victorino trying to explain the unwritten rules, lol.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy
we go!
BTW, fantastically sportsmanlike response from Victorino. Very, very classy!
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
called it
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for those not watching
BGM is “Why Can’t We Be Friends”.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell is Manny all pissed off at?
are the Phils just trying to bait him?
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny could be mad about just about anything
But I’m not sure what the Phillies are so bent out of shape over. I know they don’t like that Kuroda threw at S.V’s head, but their pitcher threw at Russell’s head, so I don’t see the difference.
If you don’t want guys throwing at your players’ heads, then get your pitchers in line.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as my friends would say
Cornrows too tight?
Love the description “Dodgers dragging their meal ticket back to the dugout.”
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe because Victorino was carrying on like that
“Hey, we can throw over your guys heads, behind your backs, drill you, etc…but gosh darn it, you better throw it at my ribs!!”
Perhaps the Phils were barking at him since he started this whole thing in the papers, calling out Billingsley for not retaliating.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I'd put my money on that
How can you get upset that someone didn’t throw at your ribs when your pitchers aren’t throwing at rids?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look
nobody threw at Russell Martin’s head. They threw up and in but it wasn’t that up and it wasn’t that in. It’s ok to throw inside to remind the Phils that, what goes around comes around, but no one can seriously think that they were throwing at Martin’s head. I thought Victorino handled that w/ complet class. What happened at the end of the inning seemed to be provoked by Lopes, not Victorino.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't just one game
it has been happening all series.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
throwing inside is ok
god knows the Cards ought to try it every now and then.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He threw it a foot over his head
what, was he going to jump up and let it hit him?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, McCarver was actually dead on with his "analysis"
and he probably should know a lot about it having been a catcher in a time when this stuff happened more often.
Put a ball right behind a guys head and you’re almost always gonna hit him. Put one slightly over his head (even at the top of his head) and his natural reaction is to go down and never up.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it's a foot over his head
and he’d have to jump up to have it hit him, what’s the big deal?
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ask Shane.
He was the one that spent 5 minutes explaining the unwritten rules to a 33 year old starting pitcher.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was gesturing
So Kuroda would get the message in any language. Which of course sets off the dugout…
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in any language
Link for posterity – Kuroda speaks baseball! And check out that inset. Dude, are the Cardinals cursed? /snark
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2008 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if this goes 7 games
we’re gonna see take out slides, collisions at the plate, etc.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm waiting for the Mariano Duncan v Davey Lopes
fist fight. Larry Bowa scissor kicking Rich Doobie.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking that Duncan might be the last dude out there I'd want to fight.
But I bet Lopes fights dirty as hell.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
it got a ton more stupid!
A bunch of millionaires getting their panties in a bunch over nothing. I enjoy watching baseball too much to get more entertained when shit like that consumes our time.
If they don’t want to play baseball, they should go home and allow the Cubs and Brewers to play for the NL title. Then they can create some WWF cage match between the two and sell millions of tickets. They need to grow up and act like men.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because passion never, ever spills over
I’d much prefer to see images of players sitting on the bench with their heads hung low or players standing at second, smiling and yucking it up while the closer is blowing the lead.
That’s far more fun.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know what that means
is this code for something that I can only understand if I read some other thread? Fights, or bluster rather b/c no one seriously expects a fight to break out, (really it’s just a bunch of idiots out there spewing venom — all of whom are either too cowardly or too bright to actually throw a punch) — fights are better than players in the playoffs not caring? That’s your point? Are those the only 2 options?
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You act like they should simply be robots
when someone is hurling a baseball at them with the intent of sending a message. You act like they should turn the other cheek when the other team is yelling at them.
The game is far more interesting when the players appear to care. The players in this series appear to care. No more glad handing and talking each other up on the basepaths. Neither team likes each other very much right now.
You ask players to play at a high level, with a high level of intensity, eventually that passion and that focus is going to spill over into emotion.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardcore
with due respect, what the hell are you talking about?
Nevermind, I don’t care. One team threw up and in. The other one retaliated. That this is that big a deal to me is stunning in light of the fact that they’re playing w/ something on the line. (oh my gosh, the Phils just came inside again to Martin — making him back his front foot up.) Your robots/men analogy makes no sense whatsoever. They’re idiots if they do something to get thrown out of an LCS game or to bring on a suspension. Idiots! Everybody knows it. Nothing’s going to happen here. Just play the damned game.
If you truly care, and have passion for the game, you’ll act like who wins matters. If you don’t care, go start a fight over a pitch that almost hit Martin’s front shoulder. The idea that I think you can’t play as though you care and not act like you want to fight when the other guy throws up and in is positively absurd. (if that is, in fact, your suggestion.)
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because you say
“that doesn’t make sense” “What are you talking about”
Pretending not to understand just to give your own argument more weight is no real arguement at all.
In your world, the Dodgers should just stand there and let the Phillies keep peppering them with pitches? You act like Ramirez didn’t have the ball thrown behind him in Game 2.
The message was sent back to the Phillies that the Dodgers weren’t going to let themselves be thrown at without retribution. Then, Victorino had to act like a child and flail his arms around preaching to Kuroda how and when he should retaliate. Apparently, Victorino didn’t get the message.
Kuroda said something to Victorino and Davey Lopes and the Phillies bench took exception, which set off Manny and the rest of the Dodgers.
The Phillies want it both ways. They want to play ‘hardball’ by throwing at the Dodgers and backing them off the plate but then want to dictate to the Dodgers how they can act towards them.
That’s just absurd.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HL, you're not paying attention one bit
and I’ve taken the bait on this long enough. I’m ok w/ the retaliation pitch from Kuroda. I always was. It’s just part of the game. I’m just not going to fall for this stuff that 1 team is wrong, the other team is right. Good/evil. Black/white, whatever.
Like I said, I’ve taken your bait long enough. I’m not going to continue w/ this ridiculous back and forth. I just don’t subscribe to what appears to be your view that everything is so cut-and-dried. You come up and in. We’ll come up and in. It’s over. Move on. Now, I’m moving on.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all due respect
now we’ve gone to the ’I’m taking the high road’ defense in an internet argument. It went from “You aren’t making sense” to “You are baiting me, I will be the bigger person and walk away from this argument”.
I don’t care who is right or wrong, but you said this series got ‘a ton more stupid’ because the players were upset about the back and forth between the two teams. You want them to throw up and in every once in awhile, but not let it effect them emotionally?
Baseball fights are like a junior high dance, a lot of feet shuffling and heavy breathing but not a lot else going on. Let them get it out of their system. Maybe the added passion of fighting each other will motivate the players even more to produce a higher level of baseball.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a hell of a lot of grown ups who act like children in all walks of life
why should I hold a jock to a higher standard? They’ve been rewarded their entire lives acting like children.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why should we hold society to such a low standard?
as for the athletes — why should we encourage that by justifying and rationalizing their acting like idiots?
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a game played by men
acting like boys. It has been this way for 140 years.
These things happen in the game. Name any sport where the athletes act like emotionless robots and I’ll point you to a niche sport.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought base wars was a pretty cool game actually
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
robot wars was an awesome movie, too.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOMARRRRRRRRRRRRR
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is in response to threads above
But I just rewatched, and it gets more poetic every year, doesn’t it? “…ooooh…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qo-MW4kzgY
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
relink
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's still great
I love Tommy’s reaction when she says “Cubs”.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised
It wasn’t spammed all over after the DS. Man, how could Tommy have known!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Furcal
I said this Wed or Thurs night, do the cards really want him? With his injury history….he might play 300 games over 3 years. That is not worth 45 million. its just not. pass. id rather throw that money into pitching.
by njnick on Oct 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's his "games played" history
2000: 131
2001: 79
2002: 154
2003: 156
2004: 143
2005: 154
2006: 159
2007: 138
2008: 36
Is he breaking down? I wouldn’t be able to tell you. But his “history” to to play virtually every single day.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cant argue with that.
Tackle Box, do you trust him to play 450 games over the next three years? I dont. He will be 31 this month. He is a terrific player but I think 15million is better spent somewhere else.
by njnick on Oct 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but what if he plays
400 games over the next 3 years? 130+ per season. That’ s more realistic and might be worth the salary he’ll receive.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda depends on when those 130 games takes place
think the dodgers are fine with him playing 36 this year, especially when he’s playing right now?
Personally, I think he’s worth it.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are his contract
demands going to be? I know we are estimating. But, lets say he wants 3/45. i believe he has 2 DUI’s. Everyone is going to jump on me about writing that but we have had enough problems/trouble with booze/drugs already. He just had back surgery. He will be 31 entering 2009. I just dont think paying him 15 million is worth it.
by njnick on Oct 12, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so i don't really care about athletes having long hair
but manny looks like princess leia in the empire strikes back.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw that kid in the stands
With the big Manny hair and I was like, is that the kid from Hook?
Manny redid the hair after the NLDS. Can’t decide if Belly’s playoffs hair was more effective.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh. i remember that... it was really fuzzy.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pics 06
NLCS: BEFORE
vs
WS:

…after.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not the tongue
oh, the horror.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha how soon tis forgotten
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen a brown tongue before or after Belly
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's hilarious
How many google hits I get for his name + “tongue”. And no, nothing in the first page is pr0n.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
those elaborate hair styles hurt
Certain ones are like being stabbed in the skull. Talk about distraction.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was about to say "remember in 2004..."
When a certain rookie catcher stood up to Manny…
Damn you Buck for stealing my lines!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nomar
you are just doing this to make me look bad.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't that be something
if the Dodgers and Red Sox met in the WS and in Game 7 Manny hits a home run to tie it and Nomar hits one to win it?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my WS is when
Manny does it to Lidge in Philly.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good baserunning
Tack on another run.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
questions
Lefties in the lineup take away that change, his best pitch, and force him to basically become a fastball (if you dare call it that, at 81 mph) only pitcher.
Dumb question, but
why do lefties take away a change up?
I can understand taking away a breaking ball, because of the break but why would they take away a change?
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by jealousblues on Oct 12, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does the changeup have to come from their hip towards the outside part of the plate
thus making it pass through the plane of their bat at some point?
A right handed hitter, a changeup starts away and stays away.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
change runs into a same handed batter
most batters can adjust the swing for the slower pitch, after which the first baseman (for a lefty) should be prepared to take cover. If it runs away (to an opposite-handed hitter), and is thrown to the outside edge, it’s a lot harder for the batter to keep from getting out in front of it. If it has sink, too, that can produce weak ground balls.
by random on Oct 12, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Lowe goes tomorrow night
I have to say, bringing back Lowe is the right decision. I intimated that they should use Kershaw but that was b/c I expected they’d use Maddux and save Lowe for game 5. Using Lowe for game 4 is the right move. With the extra off day, he could pitch in game 7 on 4 days’ rest. It’ll be interesting to see if Manuel uses Hamels tomorrow rather than Blanton.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stick with Blanton
you have the lead in the series, worst case scenerio is that you go home to Philly down 3-2 with Hamels and Myers available. No sense in forcing Hamels on short rest and leaving yourself without that silver bullet.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it also leaves you
w/ Moyer in a game 7 (or Blanton). Their rotation isn’t deep. I think I’d go w/ Hamels, even if I expected to only get 5 innings from him just so I could use him a 3rd time.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they were going with Hamels and Myers
in Game 6 and 7. My mistake.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obligatory so taguchi sighting!
i was pulling for him to hit a homerun
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So! blink and you miss him!
sometimes the all-stl crew serves us well. we get lingering comments/shots/references with no relevance to the game except for Cards fans.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and there's another one. thanks Joe.
Man, if I weren’t a Cards fan, I’d hate us.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta go get Kuroda
can’t fool around w/ this lead. This game is the series for the Dodgers.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cory Wade
is one example of why you’re playing w/ fire if you spend big bucks on middle relievers. We’ve got Kinney or Motte or whoever. Everybody’s got these guys laying around who are fungible and can be sent down — there’s very little invested in them. Wade’s been fantastic this year.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe's and Tim's gushing aside
that throw has to go to 2nd base.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but the runner wasn't tagging up
and he probably thinks he’s at least got a shot to throw out Howard.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we know that now
and what if the ball gets by DeWitt? It’s an unnecessary move at a very small chance to throw out Howard. Up 5 runs, it made no sense.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give ya the unnecesary part
but even if it get’s by DeWitt, it’s probably not going to get the runner to 2nd since the pitcher is backing up 3rd. Unless he airmails it into the stands which would be extremely hard to to.
But, ultimately he really didn’t have a shot at getting him at third.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's 9:40
and if this were a Red Sox game started by Josh Beckett we’ be in the top of the 4th inning.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no 12 year olds were replaced in the making of this public sports event
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been extremely disappointed in the "God Bless America's" this post season
I actually look forward to it, but they’ve been sub par all the way around.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Martin
forgot to turn off his ball-magnet
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh, oh.
I can’t see this game on TV or equivalent. Did this HBP start a fight? Sure looked like an invitation to one.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 12, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nope
Breaking ball . . . clueless LA fans still booing their hearts out.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 12, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And pure coincidence
that it was Martin again?
by StanTheManFan on Oct 12, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know many pitchers
That make a statement by drilling a guy in the ribs with a 76 mph hanging breaking ball
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 12, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've wondered for a long time
if the popular wisdom, that HBPs on a breaking ball are “accidents,” is really correct. That’s become part of the folklore of HBP-to-HBP combat. But you’re really trying to tell me that a major-league pitcher can’t control a breaking ball well enough to plug a guy with it?
by StanTheManFan on Oct 12, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the idea is that
it’s not going to leave the sting that a fastball will and is tougher to control than a fastball. If you want to drill a guy in the ribs, a fastball’s more likely for it to happen and more likely to leave a reminder.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An 80-mph curve
can still break fingers if it hits a hand on the bat.
Sorry, but I’m not buying.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's so easily accepted
that if it was a curveball, it was an accident.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, which makes it brilliant
you could hit 5 guys with a 78 mph curveball and not even get a warning!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but nobody throws at the fingers
and, if nobody knows that you did it on purpose, what was the point?
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you just like
hitting people?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Its not going to convey the message that you want if you go around hitting guys with off-speed stuff. Sure, there is a chance to hurt someone with any pitch. But, the point in hitting a batter intentionally isn’t to hurt the guy, its to send that message that you aren’t afraid to stand up for your teammates.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 12, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
their favorite player’s been hit twice and almost hit a third time. I realize it wasn’t on purpose either time he was hit but we’d boo if Albert was out there taking a beating as well. If they feel that he was hit on purpose, they’re clueless.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And fans always freak out when their own player gets hit after the teams have been warned
It’s like they assume it’s an automatic ejection.
Then again, maybe since so many times the umpire treats it that way causes fans to wonder why not this time?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ump
reminding each pitcher.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the booing of Victorino
Shows how clueless they truly are. Victorino did nothing wrong and they are booing him every time he comes up now.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is true
he just happened to be the batter at the time. I’ll say that, and I’m not one to often defend umps, they’ve handled tonight’s situation as well as it could’ve been handled. They didn’t toss Durbin when he hit Martin. Some in the regular season would have.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree about Victorino and general LA cluelessness
but as I said above, I’m not sure I agree about Durbin.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 12, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may not have done anything wrong
but they saw him stand there and carry on his own rendition of ‘Heads, Shoulders, Knees and Toes’ at homeplate.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...now they're throwing at their own guys
Ba-dum bum.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe and Tim
were just talking for a while about the whole Manny thing and i was wondering if anyone saw this article by Bill Simmons? As anyone who reads Simmons columns knows, he’s a huge Red Sox fan and studies this stuff like a beat reporter. Anyway, not exactly sure if this paints Manny in a positive light or not, but I think it’s pretty darn accurate. And I’m with Bill. Why, in all of this, no one has brought up Scott Boras’ name as a culprit is astonishing.
It’s long, but definitely a good read.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nothing cogent to add
as usual, but if we’re going with the team full of Jeff Suppan and Mr T clones, I’m liking footnote no. 36 for the prep school analogy of the Sauks.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where's my bingo card
NLDS: “errah”
ALCS: “fisted”
NLCS: random Cardinals trivia
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ALDS
Vlad’s giant strike zone.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If momentum is something that can change so easily,
going back and forth between teams so easily (in one night) is it really momentum and does it really do anything?
Thank you Dodgers.
by davethebutcher on Oct 12, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am really glad
that it looks like we’re going to have 2 close series. We should. These series seem really balanced. I’d expect both to be at least 6 game series. W/ the end of the season drawing near, I try to get as much good baseball as I can get.
by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate this game being over
before tomorrow.
Thank you National League with your non-communist rules.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen, brother
good baseball & lots of it.
by random on Oct 12, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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