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NLCS Game 3 Open Thread

Adam1_tiny by chuckb on in News

The Dodgers absolutely have to have this one. Fortunately for them, nobody has more career homers off Jamie Moyer than Manny Ramirez. Most interesting about Jamie Moyer is that, this year, he has almost no platoon split. It's actually not that surprising since he's basically a fastball/changeup pitcher. He'll throw an occasional curve but this year, about 95% of his pitches were fastballs, cut fastballs or changeups. Lefties in the lineup take away that change, his best pitch, and force him to basically become a fastball (if you dare call it that, at 81 mph) only pitcher. Loney and Ethier may have some success tonight as well.

I'd expect the Dodgers to win tonight's game. These 2 teams are just too evenly matched for this series to be a blowout. I'd still expect at least 6 games here, if Torre does the right thing and starts Kershaw tomorrow. Kuroda should do fine tonight, the Dodgers' pen finishes it off, and the series is on serve heading into game 4 tomorrow. (knock on wood!)

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ot whoa

…did the Rams… win today?
Maybe they’ll have a chance against Mizzou.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:10 PM EDT   0 recs

that's a relief

Was about to check if cats and dogs were living together.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Redskins lost the game

because with 16 seconds left to go in the first half, from the 15 yard line, Jason Campbell threw a pass that was tipped straight up into the air, the Right Tackle caught it, nearly dropped it, secured it and started trying to run with it. The Rams then put a helmet on the ball, it popped out and they returned it 75 yards for a TD to end the half up 10-7.

The Skins had 22 first downs to the Rams 8. The Skins had 368 yards, Rams 208. The Skins had 3 Fumbles lost, Rams had 0.

It was like “How badly can we beat a team without scoring or winning the game”.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Garciaparra over Loney?

are you f-ing kidding me? Newsflash: Garciaparra sucks and Moyer has no platoon split. Absurd!

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT   0 recs

It was that AB vs Lidge

Joe got a ‘feelin’ in his belly about Nomar.

He forgot that was just exploding diarrhea from his wheat grass.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no kidding

Ray Charles would have had a better chance of hitting those sliders than Garciaparra did.

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

do you know how painful it is to shoot chili through your nose??

ow….

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

looked to me as if Loney hits offspeed stuff better than real heat

I would have thunk he matched up pretty well against Moyer despite the lefty-lefty.

by random on Oct 12, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't realize Moyer stopped using the slider

about the time he came back to the NL. I’ve probably been mistaking cutters for sliders.

Fangraphs is unspeakably wonderful.

by random on Oct 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT   0 recs

guess Billingsley wouldn't last long with TLR...

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Hey Hardcore

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT   0 recs

That's cold

Hey the Chiefs didn’t lose today either! If only Mizzou hadn’t of lost, then this would have been a perfect week for football in MO.

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I'm just messin'

Whodathunkit?

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yesterday's news

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey You Guys!

Can’t we all just get along?

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mary hart = scary

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT   0 recs

Dodgers lefties

1-1 off Moyer tonight. Loney benched for Garciaparra.

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT   0 recs

jamie moyer = even more ancient in hd

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Some people look great in HD

some look awful. Jamie Moyer looks awful.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the stubble does him no favors

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we could be watching his last game ever

probably not, hopefully not, but it could be. Esp if the dodgers somehow manage to win this series.

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nomar came this close to shutting everyone up.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:41 PM EDT   0 recs

But, alas

he strikes out lookin’ and you look fine….so far.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you weren't the only one thinking it.

I’ll never forgive Loney for that solo HR he hit in the bottom of the ninth against AW two years ago to give us a 1-0 loss.

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But I loved that grand slam he hit off Ryan Dempster.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hate to be that girl,

but Loney hit a two run homer off of Wainwright in the top of the ninth on 8/10/07. Yadi drove in a run in the bottom of the ninth and we lost 2-1.

The slam against Dempster was pretty sweet though.

by cardsgirl95 on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that makes it even more painful

thanks for correcting my bad memory ;)

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Oct 14, 2008 1:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

damn but I appreciate our outfield

being smart + throwing strikes. phils’ d seems so complacent.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT   0 recs

dangit furcal

stop making yourself more expensive.

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT   0 recs

I just said the same thing to my roommate

He was in the next room over and Furcal went yard, and I yelled to him, “Bad news for the Cardinals!”

by mojowo11 on Oct 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cha-ching

I’d like to be Furcal’s agent right about now.

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT   0 recs

going going gone

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Better off.

His injury history is very scary.

by njnick on Oct 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Eh

It’s not nearly as scary as a lot of people would lead you to believe.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Love having this game on FOX

can avoid Frank TV commercials for the time being…

Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time

by RunninRedbird on Oct 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT   0 recs

maybe he should get off his high ... chair

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Holy Gang banger sitting behind home plate Batman.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT   0 recs

you pretty much have to be a gangster

to afford tickets in that part of the stadium. It’s ridiculous even in the regular season.

the enemy's gate is down.

by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

so when's the brawl scheduled?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT   0 recs

next season

throwing at a hitter right now would be moronic.

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

point exactly

Wouldn’t put it past either team.

And there we go! Victorino trying to explain the unwritten rules, lol.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy

we go!

BTW, fantastically sportsmanlike response from Victorino. Very, very classy!

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

called it

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

for those not watching

BGM is “Why Can’t We Be Friends”.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what the hell is Manny all pissed off at?

are the Phils just trying to bait him?

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Manny could be mad about just about anything

But I’m not sure what the Phillies are so bent out of shape over. I know they don’t like that Kuroda threw at S.V’s head, but their pitcher threw at Russell’s head, so I don’t see the difference.

If you don’t want guys throwing at your players’ heads, then get your pitchers in line.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

as my friends would say

Cornrows too tight?

Love the description “Dodgers dragging their meal ticket back to the dugout.”

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe because Victorino was carrying on like that

“Hey, we can throw over your guys heads, behind your backs, drill you, etc…but gosh darn it, you better throw it at my ribs!!”

Perhaps the Phils were barking at him since he started this whole thing in the papers, calling out Billingsley for not retaliating.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yup, I'd put my money on that

How can you get upset that someone didn’t throw at your ribs when your pitchers aren’t throwing at rids?

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

look

nobody threw at Russell Martin’s head. They threw up and in but it wasn’t that up and it wasn’t that in. It’s ok to throw inside to remind the Phils that, what goes around comes around, but no one can seriously think that they were throwing at Martin’s head. I thought Victorino handled that w/ complet class. What happened at the end of the inning seemed to be provoked by Lopes, not Victorino.

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

throwing inside is ok

god knows the Cards ought to try it every now and then.

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, McCarver was actually dead on with his "analysis"

and he probably should know a lot about it having been a catcher in a time when this stuff happened more often.

Put a ball right behind a guys head and you’re almost always gonna hit him. Put one slightly over his head (even at the top of his head) and his natural reaction is to go down and never up.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if it's a foot over his head

and he’d have to jump up to have it hit him, what’s the big deal?

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ask Shane.

He was the one that spent 5 minutes explaining the unwritten rules to a 33 year old starting pitcher.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he was gesturing

So Kuroda would get the message in any language. Which of course sets off the dugout…

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

in any language

Link for posterity – Kuroda speaks baseball! And check out that inset. Dude, are the Cardinals cursed? /snark

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Oct 13, 2008 7:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, if this goes 7 games

we’re gonna see take out slides, collisions at the plate, etc.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was just thinking that Duncan might be the last dude out there I'd want to fight.

But I bet Lopes fights dirty as hell.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no

it got a ton more stupid!

A bunch of millionaires getting their panties in a bunch over nothing. I enjoy watching baseball too much to get more entertained when shit like that consumes our time.

If they don’t want to play baseball, they should go home and allow the Cubs and Brewers to play for the NL title. Then they can create some WWF cage match between the two and sell millions of tickets. They need to grow up and act like men.

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, because passion never, ever spills over

I’d much prefer to see images of players sitting on the bench with their heads hung low or players standing at second, smiling and yucking it up while the closer is blowing the lead.

That’s far more fun.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't even know what that means

is this code for something that I can only understand if I read some other thread? Fights, or bluster rather b/c no one seriously expects a fight to break out, (really it’s just a bunch of idiots out there spewing venom — all of whom are either too cowardly or too bright to actually throw a punch) — fights are better than players in the playoffs not caring? That’s your point? Are those the only 2 options?

by chuckb on Oct 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You act like they should simply be robots

when someone is hurling a baseball at them with the intent of sending a message. You act like they should turn the other cheek when the other team is yelling at them.

The game is far more interesting when the players appear to care. The players in this series appear to care. No more glad handing and talking each other up on the basepaths. Neither team likes each other very much right now.

You ask players to play at a high level, with a high level of intensity, eventually that passion and that focus is going to spill over into emotion.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs