LCS game thread: Friday October 10
Game 2 of the NLCS; Game 1 of the ALCS. enjoy the baseball, enjoy the weekend.
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so, serious question about the dodger's lead-off man
it seems there’s a rising tide of VEBers interested is us signing rafael furcal. over his career he’s shown himself to be perfectly capable of league average offense, a very nice value from a shortstop—and i’m going to go ahead and assume he wasn’t going to sustain a 160 OPS+ had he not been injured. how good is his defense? i honestly have almost never watched him play and am not nearly as familiar with the sabr-type fielding stats as a lot of you guys. how about his speed and base running? i did get to watch the game last night but not very closely (had other stuff going on). is he really a more attractive option than others like a ben zobrist or jhonny peralta type? figured i’d ask here since this isn’t worth a fanpost (and nobody seems to read the fanshots…)
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how good is his defense?
tune in tomorrow! (wink! wink!)
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An alteration of the question
How good is his defense post-back injury?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 10, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
and one I won’t really be able to answer. No one really can yet.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason he's more attractive
is because he’s a legitimate leadoff hitter. Plain and simple.
As for defense, I too am at a loss when it comes to defensive metrics but from watching him play he seems to be a pretty decent shortstop. He has a strong arm and seems to have pretty good range. I think he gets a little erratic at times and screws up some easy plays (like a lot of talented shortstops) but will be a benefit over the course of the season with his bat.
Also, he’s very fast.
And before i hit “post” I see that HC has given us a little primer for tomorrow on this topic. Hopefully, it’s a legit primer and not the one Strauss gave us a couple of weeks ago that really didn’t tell us anything. Just kidding HC. I know you’ll deliver a ton of info.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it looks like he reliably gets on base at a nice clip. that + speed = obvious lead-off material.
and he can smack a few homeruns as well.
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can do everything a leadoff hitter is supposed to do
get on, takes his fair share of walks, doesn’t strike out much (which is a positive because of his speed), bunt for a hit, steal a base, score from first. etc.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, lb
have a great weekend yourself.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope this continues and lb is going to be our own tommy lasorda
the revered, loved legend who comes back occasionally to spew more wisdom…in 10 years on VEB we will be telling a new member about the old days when lboros ran this ship….fantastic
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 10, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lboros should be brought in as a "roving blogging instructor"
he’ll give pointers to new bloggers. you’ve got good instincts kid, you need to work on your patience a little and do some more research with every post, there’s no need to be so aggressive when your skill set is so strong.
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New rule proposal
Can we institute the “Courtesy Runner” rule used in high school so I don’t ever have to watch Brett Meyers run the bases again?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so, are the phillies just slapping away or something? all but one of these hits have been singles.
is billingsley just throwing everything down the middle?
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Phillies have just opened up on Billingsley
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
note to self
step one: learn to throw chad billingsley’s curveball
step two: throw it to ryan howard
step three through n: repeat
step (n+1): profit!
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I've never really looked AT Greg Dobbs
but I almost thought that was Skip Schumaker playing third base for the Phils.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what happens when pitch to contact
goes horribly, horribly wrong.
Ok, so maybe Billingsley isn’t a big PTC guy.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is this 4 pitchers this inning?
Something tells me we aren’t gonna see another 2 hour 37 minute game today.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
this series is quickly falling apart in the dodgers’s faces.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny! Manny! Manny!
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
manny being manny
that is, homer to left
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell Lasorda to stay away
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate booing other players just for being good.
if the guy has said mean stuff about your city or something, that’s one thing. but so often fans in various cities boo guys because they’re awesome. if the other team sucks, what’s there to be proud of? wouldn’t you rather the competition be worthy? i just don’t understand it.
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
we cards fans booed ’em when he came to town.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i'm aware that cardinals fans do it sometimes too
i have long given up on the canard that we are perfect baseball fans. but the phenomenon in general just bothers me. it’s like, how dare our opponents field a competitive team! don’t they know we deserve to automatically win?
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't get it either
but good luck wondering aloud about it.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i dislike manny ramirez for the same reason i disike phillie and asstro fans.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ten gallon hats
and cheese steaks?
"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum
by nomar34 on Oct 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
I was at one of the Dodger/Cards games in August. People were booing Manny but not because he hit a homer (which he did). He was booed because he was dogging it. For example, he walked (not even jogged) back to home plate from first base when a ball was called foul. No one seemed to appreciate that behavior and they let Manny know it.
by cardsgirl95 on Oct 10, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not buying it
Why would our fans care if he’s “dogging” it? They boo’d him because it’s popular to boo Manny Ramirez.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because we like to see baseball played the right way?
that type of behavior is insulting to the people in the stands.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I forgot
Cardinal fans are the smartest and best fans in the history of baseball. Fans who won’t put up with a player who would dare to “dog” it, but if you wanna buy steroids or HGH and you wear the sacred Birds on the Bat and you’ve got any ol’ lame ass excuse then all is fine.
But, that’s all I’m gonna say about it. Because this is now the second time this discussion has come up about Manny and apparently the same stupid double standards still apply.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The players was delaying the game right in front of them
why the hell not boo him?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
drop the attitude
fans EVERYWHERE should boo when someone dogs it.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got an attitude?
Because I pointed out a double standard? Seems some people will never admit they hold Cardinal players who hustle to a much lower standard.
Whatever.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what cardinal has ever done that?
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You win
I’m not going to play this “gimme a name” game.
Was hustle the right word to use? I don’t know. It only popped into my head because Juan Enc was so despised by so many because he didn’t hustle or didn’t care or some other reason.
But, it should be obvious I’m making a point about Rick Ankiel and Troy Glaus and Ryan Franklin who fans don’t seem to get offended by (unless your talking about Franklin trying to close games) like they are so up in arms over Manny. And many of these fans would love to see Brian Roberts acquired in the offseason to play 2nd base, but can’t believe Manny should ever be allowed to step on to a baseball field because he doesn’t “respect” the game.
And I still have no idea what that means. I guess not understanding that concept is what has given me an “attitude”.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for what it's worth, i wasn't trying to start an argument...
and uh… go rays?
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your post was dripping with sarcasm
and you launched a completely non-sequiter attack on ankiel, glaus, franklin, etc in order to mock your own home team’s fans for booing a lazy player. But I apologize; i should have responded to the argument, not the sarcasm. Just in a crabby mood, I guess.
Anyway, I’m certainly not saying that Manny doesn’t belong on a baseball field- I would have even loved to see Mo make the trade to bring him in this year. We’d probably still be playing if he did, and I’d be cheering for him as much as for anyone else. but if Manny isn’t going to respect the fans and if he isn’t going to respect the game, then the fans certainly have no reason to respect him as an opposing player. Boo away when he comes to town, best fans in the history of baseball.
(the fact that juan enc was despised by fans for being 1/5th the slacker that manny is certainly doesn’t help your argument any, btw. Not to mention the fact that we have no proof that Manny never did the things Ankiel, glaus and franklin did; his peak certainly came at the right time. he just didn’t get caught.)
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing upsets me more
than going to a game here in Houston and listening to those classless Astros’ fans boo Albert. Why do they do this? Because he’s good. There’s no other reason. I don’t pay a lot of attention to all the Manny Ramirez drama, but Albert’s got nothing like that. It’s just an innate lack of class. I don’t agree w/ booing Manny or Barry Bonds either but at least the booing often isn’t just b/c the player is good. I would hope Cards’ fans don’t boo Derrek Lee, for example. Lack of class!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is what i was trying to get at
obviously there’s a lot of baggage to manny so his situation is more complicated. but houston fans booing albert was actually the exact example i was thinking of (maybe i should have mentioned it…)
also i’ve been at games at busch when people threw back home run balls from the opposing team. that’s totally lame, and very chicago-like.
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's idiotic
give it to me. I’d love to have it.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Meyers is pissing me off right now
everything he hits finds some hole on the field where no one can make a play on it.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
i bet you 700 billion bailout internet dollars it ends up being more runs.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take that bet!
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i kinda sandbagged that one, didn't i?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just a little
i guess i owe you 700 billion dollars. better consult missur bush.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually you should refuse to pay me 700 billion internet dollars
so then I can raise it 860 billion internet dollars and then you say “ok, that’s better”.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay
how about double or nothing?
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
new meaning to "pitcher's duel"
What the hell. So, does this validate pitcher batting eighth?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"the reigning national league mvp"
i shudder a little every time i hear that…
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh.
if albert pujols doesn’t win the mvp this year i will cease watching baseball.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's just crazy talk
if he loses , take solace in Valatan’s view that he will be cheaper to re-sign that way. I just hope Val is right
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 10, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but did tim mccarver just say he threw the best changeup on the phillies staff?
i don’t know a whole lot about pitching, but if his changeup is better than cole hamels’, then he should be starting
by VolsnCards5 on Oct 10, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim McCarver
is the greatest sportscaster the world has ever seen.
For some reason, I don't enjoy watching Big Mac hit #62, but I fondly remember Ray Lankford blasting the ball out of the park in the same game. He had one sweet swing!!
by miniboscorino on Oct 10, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers have to be thinking
2 freaking innings? We outplay them for all but 2 freaking innings this series and we are down 2-0?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting for the Dodgers
but deep in my mind I know the Phillies have the better chance to beat either the Red Sox or Rays in the WS. So as a NL fan it wouldn’t kill me to see the Phillies advance to the WS…especially if it’s the Red Sox in the WS.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm praying the Rays
run circles around the Red Sox, Papelbon closing out another series is not something I want to see again.
For some reason, I don't enjoy watching Big Mac hit #62, but I fondly remember Ray Lankford blasting the ball out of the park in the same game. He had one sweet swing!!
by miniboscorino on Oct 10, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The key for the Rays is to just play ball and not let stuff get into their minds
like the Angles, Rockies, Indians, Yankees and even the 04’ Cardinals did when they played the Red Sox in post season.
I’m not saying the Red Sox are not a good team but they have really benefited from other teams thinking too much about situations and in turn they have choked.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
trouble: invited
Check.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lidge walks the first batter!
me likey.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Oct 10, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you know what would be great
If Albert secretly called up the Dodgers and said hey, you know that Lidge guy? I have some helpful tips.
Such a helper.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up Tim, you spoil the mood.
For some reason, I don't enjoy watching Big Mac hit #62, but I fondly remember Ray Lankford blasting the ball out of the park in the same game. He had one sweet swing!!
by miniboscorino on Oct 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many times has Lidge blown a save against STL?
For some reason, I don't enjoy watching Big Mac hit #62, but I fondly remember Ray Lankford blasting the ball out of the park in the same game. He had one sweet swing!!
by miniboscorino on Oct 10, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know Nomar won a game with a walk off in La?
For some reason, I don't enjoy watching Big Mac hit #62, but I fondly remember Ray Lankford blasting the ball out of the park in the same game. He had one sweet swing!!
by miniboscorino on Oct 10, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kemp has been far from clutch so far this series.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm going to say the Phillies in 5.
The Dodgers had to get a win in Philly to make this a series. I’m afraid the Philly offense is just too much for Manny to try and beat by himself. Kemp, Either and Blake really need to start getting some clutch hits if the Dodgers are going to have a chance to even the series up in LA.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, ESPN fell in love with the Dodger's
but only because of Manny….they are a little sad without him.
For some reason, I don't enjoy watching Big Mac hit #62, but I fondly remember Ray Lankford blasting the ball out of the park in the same game. He had one sweet swing!!
by miniboscorino on Oct 10, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torre needs to shake up his line-up
I would put this line-up out moving Ethier and Kemp down and bring in Kent.
1. Furcal
2. Martin
3. Ramirez
4. Loney
5. Blake
6. Ethier
7. Kent
8. Kemp
9. Pitcher
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What in the world was Nomar swinging at?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
everything
that was one of the worst PAs I’ve ever seen.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything was in the LH batter's box
That was so terrible it makes my eyes bleed.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays dodged a bullet there.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is gonna
JACK-A-DONG!
next time
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell?
Why is this game on TBS? and why did I not already know this?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching Dice-K pitch
makes me frustrated. How can a pitcher look so awful and get away with it over and over and over again?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
beating matsuzaka in boston
was a real highlight of the 2008 season, imho.
Kinda sad, but true.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite the strikezone Tim
is giving Dice K.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that just a general statement?
or have you switched your rooting interest away from the Red Sox?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox last series
Rays this one. But I’ll pull for the Sox over the Phils if it comes to that.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to you
as a child????
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, if you constantly had batteries hurled at you as a kid, you'd be bitter against phillie too.
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I simply can't stand any team from Philly
I don’t know why, but I simply can’t root for the Phillies, Eagles, Flyers, or Sixers. I have no idea what it is. The only time I’d ever root for the Phillies is if they were playing the cubs. Not sure why the whole city has gained my ire, but it’s insurmountable.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm tired of the AL and Red Sox dominance in the WS
I will root for the Phillies big time as a NL fan. Not really a fan of Philly but I can “like” them MUCH more than I can of Boston. Time for another team to get a championship. Boston has had their fun.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 World Championships
in 5 years.
We would never hear the end of how dominate that ‘dynasty’ was.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we all know the truth.
Just cause they say it, doesn’t mean we have to believe it.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 years from now
it will be fact.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Peter Gammons has anything to do with it, it will
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, i don't know
nobody really talks about the late 90’s yankees anymore…
so just give it a decade or so and everything will be cool!
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see
I thought you were pulling for the Sox all the way. Can’t believe it never occurred to me you were pulling for the Rays in the last series also and that “pull” might have been slightly greater.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are the Rays going to get a hit in this game or what?
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not yet.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough to hit it
if he doesn’t throw strikes.
And yes Chip, that was the most exciting routine flyball to JD Drew I’ve ever seen in my life!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right, because athletic players who were fast
and nimble never took steroids.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Sox play good defense
they’re not known for it, but they’re good.
And BTW, Chip, letting your best hitter swing 3-0 isn’t a gamble. It’s what you do. Could you imagine him saying that Albert “had the take sign” if he didn’t swing 3-0?
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DiceK
He’ll have to throw a ton of pitches if he’s going to do it himself, after that wild first few innings – 90 pitches through 6 innings doesn’t sound like no-hitter numbers, but I guess if you’ve got 4 BB and 8 K….
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 10, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, he's going for it
because in my daydream, he goes 9.2 innings, walks the next batter and then gives up the backbreaking 2 run HR for the walkoff.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet he doesn't go 9.2 innings
while keeping the no-hitter.
Just a hunch.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
count on it
wait, nevermind. dusty manages the reds, not the red sox.
by mattybobo on Oct 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would have been
one of the greatest moments in sports history.
I can just hear Epstein kicking things in his office “G&&&& it!!! $150M and Billy Beane’s stuff doesn’t work in the M&8789F&*&* playoffs!”
Unfortunately, I’m afraid it WILL work. Again and again.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't starting well
the right handed JD Drew just hit one through the hole, 2 JD Drews on.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ty Cobb would be proud of the half-swing
contact plays.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then he'd punch you in the face
and urinate on you.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta love
James Shields. the franchise’s 1st playoff game ever against a damned good offense and he’s come up nails! (knock on wood!)
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right down the middle
didn’t expect that.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn!
that one was good, too. Guess he doesn’t like the high strike
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's the Dave Duncan
of homeplate umpires.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that one wasn't near as good
as the missed strike a couple of pitches ago.
Well, I guess, according to pitch trax, it was exactly the same pitch!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
got him
what’s shields, 25? He’s been awesome!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gasp.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carl Crawford!
I hope they don’t pick up your option!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no hitter over
now that there’ll be no history, go Rays!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at the Rays swimming in the OF!
That’s pretty slick.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
remember how big an out that was
when Wainwright got Floyd w/ 2 on and nobody out in the 9th of the ’06 game 7? HUGE!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't risk it
even w/ Crawford’s speed there
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he might have beat that one
one hopped the cutoff man.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
he’d have been a dead duck.
Even so, you don’t know that when you have to make the call and w/ no outs, it was the right decision.
Terrible PA there by Gross.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I know
I was kidding. You would think that even with 1 out, you can get the run in and you can’t afford to give Dice-K anymore outs. He’s been dominant enough.
Although, it’s getting close to a point where you’re gonna have to take a chance. And since this is probably Dice-K’s last inning, you’ve basically got one more inning before you see Papelbon.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheesh!
your fastest guy on 3rd w/ no outs and you can’t get him home! Terrible!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's cause someone told him
not to go on the only ball hit out of the IF!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Masterful would not be the term I would use
for this performance, Chip.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here he is
2 batters too late.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might want to double up?
Ok, Chip, now you aren’t even making sense.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the series
better luck next decade, Tampa.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
settle down, Hardcore
this is a damned good team. I don’t think they’ll win this one but it’s not game 7.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant Balfour
Do you take donations?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hit him in the shoulder
out 3 to 4 years.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hit Jason Bay too
If we are going down, let’s do it in ugly fashion!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was pretty clutch, in an old-school Izzy kind of way
hit the best hitter on the first pitch to load the bases, setting up the double play and instilling fear in the next guy, then a K and a pop up…
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Balfour known as a bit of a red ass?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not quite
means he’s got a temper.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford just gave the ball to
a serial killer in the stands.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're in Florida
the odds go way up.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...they got out of that?
I need antacids, damn. Or a Franklin.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 10, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
attaboy, Aki!
now we’ve got a chance. And I’d like to do it before Papelbon comes in. He’s filthy!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell us about Varitek's computer brain
on that one, Buck.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And tell us about Youk's great defense too
Ok, that was a hard play.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great play by Youkilis
and we get a hit out of it too
It’s time to go get Dice-K.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there's nothing that starts a comeback
like some Bryan Adams music! Yeah! Rock on!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love JBJ's sweet
hair in this concert. The purple shirt with yellow accent lights give it this amazing wig look.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, they really shouldn't
get thrown out, and you have lefty – lefty at the plate, and Longoria’s hitting w/ 2 outs.
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, ya cowards
you either live like cowards or die a hero!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
grumble grumble
stupid swing there.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF?????????
Greenlighting Longoria is no big deal. Greenlighting Pena against a lefty w/ 2 on and no out is absurd! He should’ve taken 3!!!!!!!!!!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least Pena didn't hit into a DP
let’s get ’em Evan!
by chuckb on Oct 10, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are the Rays just as inept as the Angels
at getting an XBH?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's some kind of post season thing with teams agains tthe Red Sox
hitters are trying TOO HARD to be the hero against them and they choke. We’ve seen this movie many times since it’s premiere in 2004.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it's the Red Sox?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The greatest team at not giving up XBH
in the history of postseason play?
I mean, they are doing it against a 100 win team and a 98 win team.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tackle Box I will agree the Red Sox are a REALLY GOOD team
and it’s why these teams try too hard against them and they choke. The Indians of last ALCS is a perfect example. Until a team can just relax and play it’s going to keep on happening and the Red Sox will keep on reaping the rewards of post season success.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 10, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chip, amazed by the carry
of Varitek’s well struck balls.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nope
I think he has to get 300 wins and I don’t think he’s gonna get there. I don’t even think he’ll get 250 which still might get him in.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but they just said ‘future HOFer’
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm looking at B-R and am starting to reconsider
Keeping in mind what stats matter in these things, he is over 3000 in k’s and still is under 3.00 in ERA. His wins and his inability to stay healthy the last 3 years is hurting him.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say he's definitely in
for about 5 years, he was dominant. I’d be stunned if he didn’t make it.
by chuckb on Oct 11, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brook Shields
has awful skin in HD.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how long has it been since she was hot?
80’s or 90’s?
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and liam neeson'd
and michael jackson’d, and jfk jr’d… among many others. Including a 9-year old when she was 16. yeesh.
I’d answer the phone if she called, though, esp if she could get me tickets.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 11, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the only reason I ever thought she was hot
was because it seemed like everyone else thought she was, so I kinda went along with it. Didn’t she date Michael Jackson, or were they just friends that people made up rumors about?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 11, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will be the inning where Papelbon
gets "Lidge’d "
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 10, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if AK can do it...
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 10, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, you're about to see Papelbot's hand beat something.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on Oct 11, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox in 5
Well at least there is parity in the National League in the past 10 years. There will be a total of 9 different NL teams that has gone to the World Series since 1998. 10 if you include this year (Dodgers or Phillies)
In the American League…5 teams. With the two big East spenders dominating the post season. It would really have to suck being an AL fan that doesn’t root for the Red Sox or Yankees.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 11, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that TBS gives me highlights of the game
I just watched.
I don’t need Cal Ripken to tell me what I saw for myself.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 11, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 'speedy' Carl Crawford
one day, Carl Crawford hopes to be referred to as the ‘well rounded, talented’ Carl Crawford.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 11, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
truly brilliant analysis:
“if you let the bottom of the order beat you, in the national league, you’re going to lose games” — harold reynolds
Ranks up there with any of the better moonman-isms.
the enemy's gate is down.
by SleepyCA on Oct 11, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs



















