Jimmy Baseball, Jimmy Cub

That image of Jimmy running towards the ivy in blue pinstripes hurts doesn't it? I want to preface this post by acknowledging that I started with the sole purpose of comforting us as we watch our very own Jim Edmonds do his best to help the enemy do what hasn't been done in 100 years. Early in his tenure, I took a look at his home/away splits and it was ridiculous how Wrigley Field seemingly enhanced his statistics. I was a couple of paragraphs into this write-up before actually looking up his splits because I was absolutely certain that the same findings would remain: That it would not have been likely for Edmonds to put up comparable numbers if he never parted from the Cardinals. I also want to make it clear that I'm glad Edmonds is no longer a Cardinal. Subjectively, he seemed to be slowing down in the field. Over-the-shoulder catches at the warning track suddenly became doubles and triples... yet he continued to play that ever-famous shallow CF. Meanwhile, he appeared over-matched at the plate much of the time. So, when we were able to send him out to San Diego and acquire a decent prospect in return, I applauded the move (and even more so now as David Freese appears poised to contribute to the Cardinals organization either as a player... or important trade bait with Brett Wallace and Allen Craig also emerging). So much of us considered it a steal when Edmonds flailed in the spacious Petco park and was cut loose. And then those Cubs rumors started circulating... Let's look at three lines of numbers for Edmonds: 2006/2007 for the Cards, 2008 for the Padres, 2008 for the Small Bears, and career up through 2005. Only looking at career through 2005 because I don't want the years being evaluated to skew the overall numbers.
| Team | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS | AB per HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cards '06 & '07 | .255 | .338 | .436 | .774 | 23.06 |
| Padres 2008 | .178 | .265 | .233 | .498 | 90.00 |
| Cubs 2008 | .256 | .369 | .568 | .937 | 13.16 |
| Career thru '05 | .291 | .384 | .543 | .927 | 16.79 |
Wow. Those numbers with the Padres are abysmal. We're all too familiar with the numbers he posted on the 2006 and 2007 Cardinals' teams. But look at those Cubs' numbers: better than career in SLG, OPS, and AB/HR. Surely, these numbers are inflated by the wind in Wrigley Field, right? Well, it seemed that way at first. I arbitrarily picked July 20th as the midpoint mark (although I'm sure this is not split evenly down the middle). Away from the confines, his SLG, OPS, and AB/HR were .417, .764, and 28. In Wrigley during this time, they were a stunning .781, 1.195, and 8.14. At this point, I'm certain that Edmonds has not regained his MVP form... rather, he simply plays in a park that makes his play look more impressive than it really is. Who cares if the Cardinals disposed of this guy? He wouldn't have posted these numbers in Busch III anyways. Not so fast. With the whole picture now in view, we see that Edmonds has been a markedly improved player than what we saw over the last couple of years under the arch.
| Team | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS | AB per HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cubs Away | .269 | .383 | .523 | .906 | 16.25 |
| Cubs Home | .242 | .354 | .617 | .971 | 10.91 |
What about his defense? Surely, that's worse. We'll only give a quick glance here with fielding percentage, RZR, OOZ, fielding win shares (FWS). You can find the definitions for RZR, OOZ, and fielding win shares in The Hardball Times glossary.
| Team | FPct | RZR | OOZ | FWS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| STL 2006 | .987 | .898 | 38 | 3.8 |
| STL 2007 | .981 | .852 | 48 | 2.9 |
| SD 2008 | .985 | .914 | 10 | 0.6 |
| CHC 2008 | .973 | .931 | 45 | 2.7 |
Nope. Jimmy Baseball just isn't going to leave us with any vindication. He's performing at a high level and we have to suffer through watching him do it for the Cubs. Even in the field, he's outdoing himself in nearly every category except the under-telling fielding percentage. Now, of course, his main gripe for wanting to be traded was because he wasn't considered an every day player by TLR. Turns out neither do other managers. He's only had 48 ABs against south paws this year as opposed to 292 ABs against RHPs. In 2004, he didn't have much of a righty/lefty split. Although our beloved Jim Edmonds may be nothing more than a platoon player these days, he's sure been one hell of one. I don't know about you, but as I'm taking in the 2008 playoffs, I'll reminisce about past Octobers... and many of my thoughts will drift to This Homerun, The Catch, and how #15 rallied the 2006 crew by handing out game-balls after every victory. It's gonna hurt to watch him contribute in similar fashion throughout the 2008 playoffs. If the Cubs were to complete their hundred year conquest, Edmonds would immediately become the darling of Chicago as he'll be portrayed by the media as the one acquisition that "knows what it takes to win." Indeed, this will be overplayed because his most recent success occured with the Cubs' #1 adversary south down I-55. Never thought I'd root against the guy, but the Cards/Cubs rivalry wins over the man IMHO. A guy can't be a legend for both the Cards and Cubs. It ain't right. Go Dodgers.
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you've inspired me
to change my avatar finally. kudos, andy.

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see him healthy
again and playing good. But he is a cub and I hope the team fails. Im still kinda bent on the way him and Rolen left. Plus him stirring the pot even more during the season. Good luck to jimmy in his career but may he have a terrible post season
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Oct 2, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stirring the pot...
I actually think it was TLR who instigated that silly feud… But Jimmy sure didn’t downplay when he hit those two HRs and seemingly flipped the bat towards the Cards’ dugout and peered into it.
by AndyB83 on Oct 2, 2008 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this photo (from tonight's ESPN main page) seems germane.

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
by SleepyCA on Oct 2, 2008 2:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A few tidbits
You don’t mention that a) Jimmy stopped taking his post-concussive medicine after the Padres released him, and now has said publicly that he feels he has a much clearly grasp on things now and b) he’s a platoon player in Chicago, so he’s really only facing righties with Reed Johnson taking the lefties…which inflates his rate numbers to some degree.
I don’t really know what my point is, but these points seemed relevant and I’m tired.
by mojowo11 on Oct 2, 2008 3:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the platoon thing was mentioned, fwiw
Now, of course, his main gripe for wanting to be traded was because he wasn’t considered an every day player by TLR. Turns out neither do other managers. He’s only had 48 ABs against south paws this year as opposed to 292 ABs against RHPs.
by adiueordie on Oct 2, 2008 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was just wanting to get out of St. Louis
and away from Tony. He was using the “platoon” as an excuse to ask for a trade. I think he saw the club was going to “re-build” and was getting tired of playing mind games with Tony so he decided to make a break for it. I think the “platoon” thing was more of an excuse to leave rather than a “gripe”.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
by KYCards on Oct 2, 2008 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post-concussion...
I had not read that he stopped taking the post-concussive medicine so thanks for adding.
As far as the R/L splits go, his numbers weren’t just terrible against LHPs in 2007, they were also pretty bad against RHPs:
.268 AVG, .336 OBP, .419 SLG, and .755 OPS.
by AndyB83 on Oct 2, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly Good With Cubs
I didn’t think the Cubs should have signed him back in May. I thought he was done. I have been surprised with his power numbers with the Cubs. He can still go get ‘em in the outfield. He will never be an effective everyday player again, but he has value as the left-handed part of a platoon as he’s in with Reed Johnson now. The fans on the north side of Chicago now love Edmonds. That wasn’t the case back in May.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Oct 2, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Never would have thought i would have heard that fans on the north side love Jimmy Edmonds. Hurts a little bit.
by let'er rip skip on Oct 2, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have to say, the cubs did a nice job plucking up this edwards guy
where did he come from? i’ve heard he played for the cards a while, maybe he was stuck in the minors or something.
by mattybobo on Oct 3, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HOF
I’m sure this has been covered over and over on VEB before, but I’m new. SO, I was just curious what you all think about F15teen’s chances to be in the HOF?
by Viva Vina on Oct 3, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the sad thing about him not being a HOF is he had a pretty good peak of about 4-5 years, and of course the GG’s….but, he lived in the same age as Griffey and Jones…so he is on the back burner.
by miniboscorino on Oct 6, 2008 2:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs


















