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Just about everyone chimed in yesterday about the imminent departure of our fearless leader, the esteemed Mr. Borowsky, and I don't have much of anything to add that wasn't said already. However, we do have one more tradition that I think needs to be observed in this case.


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Thank you once again, Mr. Borowsky, for your service. It will not be forgotten.

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With the Cardinals' season over, we're all going to be watching the playoffs sans our beloved local St. Louis nine for the second consecutive season. With that in mind, I thought we might do the same thing we did last season and adopt another team as our official Viva El Birdos rooting interest.

I'll include a poll, and whichever team gets the most votes becomes our adopted team for the next however long, until they're eliminated from the postseason. We'll try to make sure there are game threads, and we can all follow along with some team, at least. It may not be love, but it'll have to do, until the- well, you know the rest.

The candidates:

The Chicago Cubs- We all know the Cubs. We know the players, we know the fans, we know the story. Personally, I could never root for the Cubbies, but you all may feel entirely different. So, they go in the pile.

The Milwaukee Brewers- Again, we're all pretty familiar with the Brewers, their players, and whatnot. As many times as we see them a year, we should be familiar. Pros- Young, exciting team, great story with first playoff appearance in 26 years, pleasant fans and excellent seasoned pork products. Cons- shirt untucking, Ryan Braun, beat the Cards around badly this season.

Los Angeles Dodgers- I admit, I was hoping to see the DBacks get in, just because I happen to like a bunch of their players. The Dodgers are one of those old line, classic organisations that I can really get behind, though, if I must. Pros- Another young team, for the most part. Joe Torre is a class act, and can stick it to Steinbrenner. Lots and lots of Alyssa Milano. Cons- So very tired of hearing about Manny, either being Manny or being anyone else. Everyone still bitter toward Russel Martin. Dodger dogs wildly overrated.

Philadelphia Phillies- Personally, I can't stand the Phillies. I've hated them for a very long time, since those early 90s teams. Mostly, I just couldn't stand Darren Daulton. Pros- Young, largely homegrown team. Feature a local St. Louis product. Tough to root against Chase Utley. I don't know about you, but I really like Brad Lidge. No idea why, but there it is. Cons- Fans are, um, less pleasant than some others. May see a player severely injured by a battery. (actually, that might be under pros; I just can't decide) Said local product has already stolen one MVP from Albert and is attempting to steal another. A drunken, celebrating Brett Myers could mean bad things for Mrs. Myers. Chase Utley should have been ours.

Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays- This one is probably my personal choice. I really like just about everything about this team. Pros- Very young, ridiculously talented. Outstanding story, very '69 Mets. Cool manager, better glasses. May get the chance to see World Series games with empty seats. Cons- Stupid name change irritating. Awful stadium. Really, really awful stadium. Tired of Florida teams winning more championships than us.

Los Angeles Angels- I'm also a big Angels fan; in fact, the only team in the AL West I don't like is the Texas Rangers. Pros- Outstanding pitching, dynamic offense. Always fun to watch, with aggressive, risk taking style. Will likely get to root for half their team in a few years when they're all Cardinals. Cons- No rally monkeys this time around. Largely a bought team, with ridiculous contracts all over the place in the outfield. Still not sure exactly where this team plays.

Chicago White Sox- I can't get on board with this team. I know some people like them, but Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen are both gigantic asshats as far as I'm concerned. Pros- Would irritate Cubs fans. A lot. No, I really mean a lot. No, more than that. Local product Mark Buerhle still kicking around on the South Side. Angry Ozzie Guillen is wicked funny. Cons- Roster full of overpriced, aging players. Crap ballpark. Carlos Quentin should have been in a Cards uni. Obnoxious fans. Happy Ozzie Guillen absolutely insufferable. Stores on Miracle Mile overpriced.

Boston Red Sox- I've said some very nasty things about the Red Sox at various times, and I mostly stick by them. Some are legit, others are motivated mostly by jealousy, I freely admit. Pros- One of the true model franchises in all of baseball. Haven't torn down their historic ballpark for more luxury boxes. Rabid, loyal, and knowledgeable fan base. Word wicked may gain even wider usage. Bill James is the man. Cons- Tired of seeing New England franchises win everything. Fan base also insufferable. Really not looking forward to any more semi nude pictures of Jonathan Papelbon. Friggin Boston.

For the record, Hardcore Legend put up a very nice fanpost a while back, supporting the Rays' October cause, and it got quite a nice response. I sort of suspect they're going to be the pick, but we'll just have to count the tallies.

In Cardinal related news, um, Kyle Lohse's deal still happened. Tony and staff are probably doing exit interviews, and may punch Chris Perez in the crotch as part of his. Uh, that's about it.

It's really pretty outside today, everyone. Try to get out and enjoy the weather, if you can.

Poll
Who do we love?
Cubbies
45 votes
Brewers
93 votes
Dodgers
156 votes
Phillies
41 votes
Tampa Bay
844 votes
White Sox
99 votes
Angels
103 votes
Red Sawx
15 votes

1396 votes | Poll has closed

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Right on!!!

Where’s this rumored poll?

by cardzfanbub on Oct 1, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Up now.

Sorry, forgot it at first.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by the red baron on Oct 1, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice title on the post

mayhaps they’ll play that song for me tonight. when i see them live. with the music and songs and such.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 1, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ole English

I thought you were going to use Old English today? ;)

Rays all the way

by StLHugo on Oct 1, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like "Ole English."

Is that sorta like Spanglish?

by Youneverknow on Oct 1, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tryed,

and yet fownd my abulets unmade to the chalenge. Thus, I forsook the atempt.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by the red baron on Oct 1, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vote

Red Sox. Well, they wear red socks.

by deweydell on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two words why I want to see the Cubs win:

Jimmy Baseball. Deep down, I think he may be a real HOF candidate, and winning it all with the Cubs and coming back next year, anywhere, and hitting a few more homers might be enough to get him in. All the gold gloves, the home runs, and maybe two WS wins with two different teams? I would love to see him catch fire in the playoffs and make at least one spectacular catch per game.

Also, the Cubs winning now means they don’t win for another 100+ years, right?

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by palampe on Oct 1, 2008 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FLAGGED

I flagged this post because it is obvious the poster is under the influence of illegal narcotics. GET HELP NOW.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i second the flagging

i am as big of a JEd fan as any but i cant root for the cubs to win…hell, if i played for the cubs i wouldn’t root for them to win!

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Cubs win...

I think it will just HIGHLIGHT the 100 years of futility. Something magical about 100 years on the nose of wretched baseball. If it ends up being 126 years, instead, what’s that? It’s just a number. No, 100 years is something special, and makes you feel like it won’t happen again for another 100 years.

I like to think of Cub Championships as Brigadoon.

by tinstl on Oct 1, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see what you're saying

but I’d prefer 200.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer 1000

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we can all agree on this

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll root for the Cubs

b/c 1) Most of my friends are Cubs fans and
2) An all Chicago series would be sweet

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

About as sweet as that all-New York Series was, right?

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I was from two hours outside NYC

I probably would have thought it was sweet.

And if 2005 never happened, and all Chicago series would have been amazing no matter where you were from.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm about 45 minutes outside of Chicago

and I don’t think there would be anything “sweet” about an all Chicago World Series.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are an Illinois transplant

I take it?

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, born and raised and lived my whole life in Illinois

although you could say I’m a Chicagoland transplant.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha, downstater.

My grandma was a hard core White Sox fan, so I’ve always pulled for them.

Truthfully, I don’t really care who wins the world series, as long as we can get a seven game series for once.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree. It would be VERY sweet

I think a the White Sox sweeping the Cubs would be exceedingly sweet. I’d look forward to….

1 . Soriana making multiple fielding errors on routine fly balls.
2. Aramis Ramiriez going 0 for 200
3. Derrick Lee hitting the occasional bloop single with no power
4. J Ed hitting a homer in each of the 4 losses
5. And let’s not forget Zambrano leaving a wake of dead water coolers after pitching 3 innings and allowing 7 runs while mumbling “I had to go to Venezuela yesterday” after the game
6. The Ozzie Guillen post game news conference tirade laced with 17 utterances of “@#$# you Cubs fans”

And then half the people I know going into mourning.

You think that wouldn’t be sweet?

by sdrone on Oct 1, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh wow, that would be orgasmic.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1000000

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i can't decide if i agree or disagree with you

on the one hand, an all chicago series (or all L.A. for that matter) would be very annoying to me as i hate to see one city soak up all the attention. on the other, the sheer intensity of competition centered on one city might be interesting to watch.
that said, i’m still rooting for the rays and (i guess) the brewers. i’ll forgive the showboating and shirt untucking this time and chalk it up to youthful exuberance. they better not make a habit of it though.

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As insufferable as White Sox fans are

I would find it highly entertaining if the Sox beat the cubs in the World Series once it was all over. Not enough to root for the cubs to come any where close though.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice

to see the white sox beat the cubbies. Just to hear the cub fans bitch and moan.

by madeintaiwan on Oct 1, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOLY MOLY!!!

The first “El-Train Series” in 102 years? (Did the El-Trains even exist in 1906? I dunno…) They’d have to get Urlacher and the rest of the Bears’ defense as “peacekeepers” in the streets; kinda like Dick Butkus’ former duty in the Illinois National Guard… the word that “BUTKUS IS ON THE STREETS!!!” was allegedly a key factor in damping down racial riots in Chi-town in 1964 (or so says the urban myth!)

I saw where Wrigleyville bars are going to call “closing time” in the 7th inning during all possible “clinching” games; apparently, they don’t know how to spell “hubris” at the Friendly Confines…

Me, I root for the Cardinals! I’ll just enjoy the baseball, no matter who wins.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Oct 1, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Wrigleyville bars have agreed to stop serving alcohol

after the 7th inning in all Cub clinching home games (in other words, have no fear the taps will continue to pour) and then will open back up after an hour.

I really don’t know what that is supposed to accomplish, but I find it funny anytime people get upset when they hear there will be no more booze sold. Like it a freaking birthright or something.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I'm casting a vote for Ol' Gene Amondson!

The Wrigley bars doing the prohibition thing also have agreed to evoke the 21st amendment in case the game goes into extras.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the World Series came down to a contest between the Cubs

and Osama Bin Laden’s Al-Qaida & Taliban All-Star Team, I’m pulling for Osama.

"There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, 'You never know.'" Joaquin Andujar

by Big Mike on Oct 1, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Cubs win

Then I’ll be of the strong belief that baseball is rigged more than professional wrestling.

Don't judge me!!!

by BigdJC on Oct 1, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rays...

I went for the Rays, but I’m really pulling for the Dodgers in the NL. I actually like Manny, and I’d love to see Boston fans get all pissy if he goes on and wins a World Series for another team. I’m a fan of Billingsley and Kemp also.

That being said, I think it’s going to be hard for a lot of baseball fans to root against the Rays. They spend very little money, don’t have much fan support, have been very bad for a long time, and finally realized that they had to draft well and develop their own guys to be competitive. And that they did. Go Rays.

by Jack618 on Oct 1, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i voted for LAD

but i really like LAA and TB also. I just had to pick an NL team, I like the Dodgers, plus I dislike the other three NL teams.

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pale Hose or the Brewers

both for the same reason…
It would seriously piss off the insufferable Cub fans around here.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Oct 1, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok honestly

last winter who didn’t laugh out loud when Kenny said “Were not trying to compete with the Tigers; they’re trying to compete with us.”

I know I did and the Sox are this st louisan transplant to chicago’s team 1B

by vances law on Oct 1, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels

I’ve liked the Angels as my favorite American League team for quite some time now, and ever since seeing a game in person last year at Angels Stadium, the fascination grew even more.

However, my second choice is the Rays. They might even have eeked out the Angels this year if they hadn’t of changed their stinkin’ name for no reason at all. Might be petty, but when you’re vying to be my non-Cardinals/American League team, you can’t go and do stupid things like change your name for no damn good reason and expect me to just accept it.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually,

It was a pretty brilliant move if you ask me. Worked out totally when the team became a winner. They ditched the old name, the old colors (which were terrible), and re-branded the team and sent it in another direction under the relatively new management. I thought/think it was a great move. I would love to see the revenue differences with regards to paraphernalia sales (some of the would be a result of the whole winning think, I know).

by t7rick on Oct 1, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i still don’t understand why you hate the name change, tackle box.
they didn’t have any long tradition or anything as the devil rays. other than being the worst team in baseball, i guess.

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

long time Angels follower...

I still have my California Angles cap. I was not thrilled with the Disney phase. I really liked the Autrys but it wasn’t great success back then. I think the new name is plain silly even the change to just Anaheim bothered me.

I really like Mike Scioscia both as a manager and former catcher. It is clear that the problem was with Guillen and not Scioscia. I also think Robinson was more at fault.

How can any Cards fan not root for the Angels since we seem to get lot’s of them (e.g. JED, Eck, Santa). Oops, I forgot we got AK.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Oct 1, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Twins had made it...

I would have been rooting for an Upper Midwest Series (Twins-Brewers), JUST because it would have had the suits at ESPN and Fox looking for windows to jump out of…but since that is not a possibility, I’ll go with the Rays, even though that is the most hideous stadium in existence today, I think you have to admire how they have managed to pull themselves up and not only stand toe to toe with the fat cats in the A.L. East, but come out on top.

by tbell61 on Oct 1, 2008 10:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

to beating out the AL East fat cats! Take that, Sawx and Yanks!

by cardsgirl95 on Oct 1, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see it now...

…Joe Morgan doing the games on ESPN radio and having no clue who half the players were…maybe even not knowing what teams were playing…“The Twins…no such team exists…I’m in a dream world…Wake me up, someone, please…”

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 1, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rays and Dodgers

although i find it odd that more people dont root for the St Louie kid and his Phillies…as much as it would pain me to see Pujols loose out to him in the MVP i wouldnt mind seeing the Phils reign in a world series, and my brother-in-law is a very good friend to one of them so that makes me a little biased too…

i have liked the Rays ever since a friend of mine was drafted by them and love the way they have treated their farm system…i dont know why i liked the Dodgers i guess Torre has something to do with it and the fact that they sat their high priced veterans so the more talented kids could play. i like Manny as a hitter but i think he quit on his other team which is disgraceful. and they have another local boy in DeWitt i like it when Missouri kids show up in the Show!!!

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 11:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Rays/Dodgers WS gets my vote

Proud sponsor of the Official 2008 StL Cardinal theme song: "Beautiful Day" by U2

by gocards62 on Oct 1, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The sCrUBS?

C’mon, anyone who would cheer for the Cubs should give their Pujols jersey to a real Cardinal fan. Then they should go up to the World’s Largest Gay Bar and worship the plants on the wall. Hope the urine smell doesn’t overtake you or the cement falling from the stadium hit you, oh nevermind, I hope it does. You can’t be a Cards fan and root for the Cubs.

Who do I love? My choice wasn’t on there. . . whoever is currently playing the Cubs.

You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit. - Lou Brown

by PaxtonJoe on Oct 1, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Um...

Yeah…

That seems a bit over the line.

by JMedwick on Oct 1, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yet

here I am.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody but...

The Cubs and Red Soxs is fine with me. Red Soxs fans are insufferable and I am afraid that Cubs fans will become the same if they win.

by JMedwick on Oct 1, 2008 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I could live w/this

Proud sponsor of the Official 2008 StL Cardinal theme song: "Beautiful Day" by U2

by gocards62 on Oct 1, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TBS - backup channel?

Hi, does anyone know what TBS does if one of the games goes long into the next scheduled one (e.g., Cubs play past 10pm into the Red Sox game).

I remember FOX used to put one of the games on FX so no one misses out their team. I surely hope TBS has such a backup plan

by cardsfaninmass on Oct 1, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't exactly remember what happened last year

although i think they just picked up the game in progress and used a lot of split screens until the first game got over.

Anyway, if they were so inclined, TBS could always use TNT as it’s backup channel. Not sure if they will, but it’s a choice.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they will

They said during the promos during last night’s game that the 2nd and/or 3rd games will start on TNT if the previous game is still going on TBS.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 1, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's good news

Split screens would be an absolute insult to fans

by cardsfaninmass on Oct 1, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TBS hosting october is an insult to fans.

Especially after they don’t learn from last years disaster. Can’t wait to get my fill of Frank TV spots and stupid Schedules that will cause me to miss 2/3’s of the games.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Dane Cook this year

but still Frank TV.

It’s a near push, but 08 gets the nod.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least Frank

can occasionally be funny. I still wanna kick Dane Cook in the face . I have moved past just wanting to punch him in the face.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They will be on TNT

just like last year. The will start any overlap games on TNT and will simulcast on both channels until a commercial break comes up.

TBS is the best channel to carry the playoffs. They are the only network to broadcast the games in true 1080 and 5.1 audio. Their colors are vibrant (not bleached like FOX).

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 1, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just wish...

Skip Caray coulda been here to call some of the games…

I like Dick Stockton, and Ron Darling surprised me with some of his insights last night (although since Ron’s a Yalie, I guess I shoudn’t have been surprised), but I greatly fear I’ll be hollering, “SHADDAP, HAROLD!!!” during any game Reynolds is working.

“Mudda-A-Mercy”, somebody send Cal Ripken into the booth! He’s way too good to be wasted in the studio!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Oct 1, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chicago has yet to win

when Dick Stockton announces a game this year. 0 for 6.

And guess who is calling the Cubs-Dodgers series?

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me?

or does it look like Dennis Eckersley is just waiting for Keith Hernandez to kick the bucket so he can take over with Walt Frazier on the Just For Men commercials?

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the best.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thoe things are still always amazing man

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Oct 1, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ChiSox

I support any team that dislikes the Cubs as much as I/Cards Fans do. Therefore, I support the White Sox. Think about it. Potentially 3 of the last 4 WS winners could be one of the Cubs biggest rivals, and the Cubs can’t do it in 100 years?!? Even better if the ChiSox beat the Cubs in the WS. Man, I don’t like the Cubs.

However, I wouldn’t mind seeing Tampa Bay win it all this year. WHY OH WHY DO THEY HAVE TO PLAY EACH OTHER IN THE ALDS?!?!?!

by launchshuttle on Oct 1, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh man...you had me until the Rays...

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus...

Going with the pattern, if the White Sox win this year, then we’ll win it next year…

2004-Red Sox, 2005-White Sox, 2006-Cardinals, 2007-Red Sox, 2008-White Sox, 2009-CARDINALS!

I think that’s a good enough reason as any.

by launchshuttle on Oct 1, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you make me wanna change my vote with that logic

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw that.....

Who are the 15 rooting for Chicago? My God.

by SoonerfanTU on Oct 1, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep in mind there are some troll/lurkers from other sites that are probably voting.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got me!!!

Yup! I’ve been found out!

My whole plan to pose as a Cardinal fan for 3 years, posting and even hanging out with you and Cards Fan in Chitown during a Cubs/Cards series this summer just so I could sabotage The Red Baron’s 2008 post season poll the day after Larry stepped down from the site throwing all of VEB into a terrible downward spiral resulting in anarchy layed at the feet of the unproven DanUp has been foiled by a meddling 21 year old from Collinsville!!!!!!!!!

Damn you madeintaiwan!!!! Damn you!!!!!

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Seinfeld's The Mom & Pop Store

“So Mom and Pop’s plan was to move into the neighborhood, establish trust … for 48 years… and then run off with Jerry’s sneakers?”

“Apparently.”

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol yeah i was gonna say they better be from BCB

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll pull for the Sox

over the Cubs, Angels, Brewers.

But I voted for the Rays. I can’t believe the Cubs have many more votes than the Red Sox.

by chuckb on Oct 1, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted for the Sawx...

and I hold my head up— I like the team; I am from Northern CA and Dustin Pedroia is from my neck of the woods, and one of my best friends is a Sawx fan (from Boston, mind you, not a band wagon fan) and he is anything BUT insufferable… he had appendicitis last Tuesday, the day the Sawx clinched, and he stayed home to watch the final out before he went to the ER… I respect that kind of dedication to a team…

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 1, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh!

cool story hansel

by Glowsticks on Oct 1, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off the subject.....

But does anybody know where I can find a stat that shows how many times a team scored x number of runs in a game this year? Meaning, a stat showing that they scored 0 runs this many times, 1 run this many times, 2 runs this many times…..etc.?

How tradable are AK and JP going to be this offseason? Specifically, it’d be great to unload JP’s contract. He is still relatively young, so maybe somebody will take a shot? That would, in theory, free up a significant amount of monies. If we could move him, I’d love to see us go resign Looper for a couple of years. That gives you Waino/Welly/Lohse/Looper for sure…..with Carpenter a possibility.

by SoonerfanTU on Oct 1, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still see JP

as a Brad Thompson type, spot starts, relief help, etc. But you could probably unload JP.

by madeintaiwan on Oct 1, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But we already have Thompson.....

And arguably Boggs/Parisi for that role.

by SoonerfanTU on Oct 1, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think baseball-reference has that

you’re going to have to dig, but I’m pretty sure it’s there.

by chuckb on Oct 1, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, red baron,

the gold watch was a really nice touch.

by cardsgirl95 on Oct 1, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol ah, i didn't even get it until you said that.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hate to be "that guy"

but i don’t get it. is this some sort of reference?

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When people retire, they often get a gold watch as a "thank you".

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet

Larry would much rather have one of those golden parachutes people keep talking about, seems to be worth a little more than the watch.

Now that I think about it maybe LB didn’t way all his options. He said he had to give up one of the three major things in his life, why not his job? If everyone on VEB contributes a dollar or two per week to a pay pal account or something like that it should add up fairly quickly. We can bribe him to stay and put his kids through college at the same time. It’s win/win Larry, think about it.

"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin

by That's a Winner on Oct 1, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell, I was gonna go a dollar a day

I like your idea much better

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dodgers

gotta root for the cubbies first round opponent. i predict manny ramirez will hit mlb’s first 5 run home run.

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Oct 1, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Screw the latest Cinderella story

1. I loathe the whole fascination with underdogs.
2. I’m still beating my “their fans are worthless” horse.

My Series of Choice:

1. LA vs LA
a. I love storied teams. Baseball is not the NFL, screw johnny come latelys, it’s all about history and tradition…dating back to the 1800s. The dodgers are in the top 5 to me when it comes to storied franchises..
b. I have no issues with the Angels…I liked baby weaver in the stands of Busch in 06.
c. It’s no combination of Cubs/Sox/Rays/Phillies
d. As already stated, Alyssa Milano.

2. ChiSox vs Dodgers
a. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and the Black Sox hate the cubs as much as us. People that are Cards fans only since 04 usually don’t understand this. They think “chicago” and have a knee jerk reaction of “rivalry”. Cubs fans are torn who they hate more, us or them…(usually us)
b. It’s no combination of Cubs/Sox/Rays/Phillies

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alyssa Milano

was in st louis trying to sell her mlb gear at busch last friday I believe.

by madeintaiwan on Oct 1, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and

+10000000 for the photo.

by madeintaiwan on Oct 1, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

she certainly was. Almost ran into her in the team store (stupid security!)

when they were doing the kiss cam , she tried to sit down next to me. Sadly she was too slow.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree 100%

with the LA vs. LA series.

and on A.M.

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

freeway series would be sweet

The traffic would suck up or down the five freeway, but that would really make an LA transplant really happy. :) What a dream it would be to hear Vin call a WS game, eat a few Farmer John dodger dogs, … Ahhhhh.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Oct 1, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would suck?

Already does.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me wrong,

I hate the Cubs. I have to because I’m a Cards fan, and that’s what we do. On the other hand, I hate the Brewers more. Seriously, I hate them.

So in the NL, I’m rooting for the Dodgers, but I’ll be happy to see anybody (including the Cubs) but the damn Brewers. In the AL, I’ll go with the Rays.

by mikeonthecards on Oct 1, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit

I cheated and looked at the results before I voted. Then, I voted for the Phillies because I can’t believe the (pardon my language) Cubs and Brewers were ahead of anyone but the Red Sox (because the world hates them more thank the Yankees now.

by stlfan on Oct 1, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh...and my real choices...

I want the Angels and Rays to play a 7 game series in the ALCS and whoever takes that to beat the winner of the 7 game NLCS between the Dodgers and Phillies….also in a 7 game world series.

by stlfan on Oct 1, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went with the popular choice

the Rays. However, I agree with several of the pros RB put up about a couple of teams. One in particular that he left out would be how fitting it would be for Junior to finally get to play in a WS. That is the one and only reason I would put forward in the White Sox favor.

Other than that, I’ve always liked Torre, but I really don’t care to see Manny become even more of a hero. If not for the cockiness they displayed all year, I could go for the Brew Crew.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 1, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What if...

The Dodgers win it all without the help of a Manny homer?

by stlfan on Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and monkeys

might fly out of my butt

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My 1 through 8...
  1. - Rays (obvious reasons, all the past futility)
  2. - Dodgers (best franchise in the NL behind the Cards)
  3. - Angels (love Mike Sciosca and that organization)
  4. - Phillies (the people of Philadelphia really need a winner)
  5. - White Sox (great to see Junior get a ring)
  6. - Red Sox (normally 8th on this list, but…)
  7. - Cubs (I dislike the Cubs organization and fanbase, but…)
  8. - Brewers (I hate about half the guys on the Brewers roster)

by LukeMP1186 on Oct 1, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Phillie fans are the most useless fans in all of sports

and they already have a hero:

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Burr is my hero

and THIS is what Philly deserves.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Don’t click the link if you’re at all a belly-rubber or easily offended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't they take his statue down?

Boooooo.

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar

by SleepyCA on Oct 1, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, yeah,

I went there back in 06 or 07 and we drove by the art museum…and i go HEY WHERE THE FUCK IS THE STATUE!!!

My friend: “yeah apparently they didn’t think it was artsy enough”
me: "so…they took it down in the mid 80s?
him: No, just a couple of years ago…

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As someone who used to live in Philly...

I have to agree with that comment about Philly fans. They are pretty bad. They run classy players and managers out of town, e.g. Lindross, Larry Brown, Francona … They boo their own team all the time. They chug batteries at opposing players, e.g. J.D.

Although, I do miss a cheese, cheese, wiz. And scrapple. And Wawas. And Center City. And Schuylkill But I do not miss the fans or Tasty Cakes.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Oct 1, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anbody would act like that

if they chugged batteries all the time… :)

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you had me at 'Alyssa Milano'

Gorgeous! My head and my heart told me to vote for Tampa Bay, but something else heard her name ands took over decision making.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Oct 1, 2008 11:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I wonder what that “something else” was?

by cardsgirl95 on Oct 1, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize it's a season award but

if the dodgers or phillies win the world series, it seriously jeapordizes The Mang’s chances for MVP

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they have already voted

so it wont affect the MVP…

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

votes had to be in last night as soon as the game ended

by StLHugo on Oct 1, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks nomar, I was not aware of that!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no problem!

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always start out watching the playoff

with a neutral viewpoint, however some where along the line I end up pulling for some teamfor no certain reason.. I have never pulled for an American League in the WS but this year could be a first if the Rays make it. However I’ll probably stick with the NL team whoever wins. Old habits are just hard to break.

by ridgesee on Oct 1, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anybody see mlbtraderumors

they’re saying peavy may be available this winter. That would be nice.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who would move Rasmus for him?

I’d have to give that some STRONG consideration.

by SoonerfanTU on Oct 1, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like rasmus plus 5 more prospects

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in a heartbeat...

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peavy for...

Rasmus, Anderson, Todd, Wallace, Craig, Freese, Samuel, the lifelong marketing rights of Stan Musual, Jay, Motte, and Adam Kennedy.

Would that be fair, or would Kennedy poison the deal?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 1, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish the D-Backs would think about moving Rasmus

a stud SS is about the only thing I would trade Rasmus for

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think about moving Drew

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not nice for us

Stop me if this sounds familiar:

“We’ve already got most of our rotation set, and we have (insert pitcher’s name) coming back from an injury. Once (injured pitcher) comes back, that will be a bigger boost than we could have acquired anyway. Our guys are competitors and with Dave Duncan’s help, they are going to go out there and compete. That’s what we expect them to do and that’s what they will do — we’ll be a competitive club with the rotation we have.”

by Ray Lankford on Oct 1, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is the status of carp?

Some were making it sound like he may never be the same pitcher again. hope not

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The latest

I’ve heard is that he has nerve damage in his elbow, but that he’s not going to have surgery on it because there is no guarantee that surgery will fix the problem. He is going to go the treatment / rest route, and the club expects him to be ready for spring training.

I sincerely hope that is the case. However, given our track record, I am more than cynical.

by Ray Lankford on Oct 1, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's his shoulder

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read

that he is going to have the surgery. Apparently some scar tissue was pressing on some nerves in the back of his shoulder and causing them not to fire correctly.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 1, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Today’s article by Strauss says he’s not having the surgery.

I don’t get the whole “let it heal” philosophy. In my experience, things don’t get better if you keep doing the same thing. As long as he’s still pitching, this is going to happen again.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about.....

Rasmus, Anderson, and Perez as the center piece. Gives them 3 ML ready guys. Anderson has no future in STL, Rasmus plays a position we are loaded at, and Perez, well, nobody really knows what management thinks of him, but we are likely going after a FA closer.

by SoonerfanTU on Oct 1, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that sounds like a lot...

15+ cost controlled years for two (pretty cheap) years of Peavy but he is good, damn good…i really am not sure what to think of it yet…

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could go get Fuentes to close.

He woudl be servicable. ORRRRRR, we could keep Kmac in the ’pen and use Motte as the closer.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 1, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about the rumor on CNNSI

That had the Mets at least open to Reyes or Wright proposals. I’d be OK with Rasmus plus Anderson for Reyes.

by birdo rojo on Oct 1, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you imagine Reyes hitting leadoff in our lineup?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Oct 1, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All his SBs' would be the only problem

All of those bases he’d swipe could come back to haunt us because it would just increase the odds of Pujols getting walked.

by birdo rojo on Oct 1, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem

we’ll just sign barry bonds to protect albert.

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I vote Brewers.

I don’t particularly like them or hate them, but they can do two positive things:

1. Annoy Cubby fans all to hell by beating the North Side Anointeds’ in the playoffs; and
2. Bring a Ring to the NL Central, thereby putting pressure on Cardinal ownership to do a better job.

The most important thing, of course, is to see some team stomp the Red Sox in humiliating fashion, preferably in Fenway Park.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Oct 1, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Angels

Runner up Rays

by Woodwork on Oct 1, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cubs lose! cubs lose!

I voted Rays to win it all. (it is their destiny since i was stung by a sting ray during vacation)

in the NL i want to see the Dodgers play the Brewers (i dont like the shirt untucking, homer walking, Brew Crew, but i hate the Phils more)

oh, and we need more pics of Alyssa ;)

by Supergus on Oct 1, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What is wrong with you people!?!?!?!?!

NO NL CENTRAL TEAMS!!!!!!!!!

We are still the only team in the NL Central to win a World Series in their ‘new’ ballpark. (Eat it, Wrigley!)

In fact, if you look around the National League, the Cardinals, the Dodgers, the DBacks and the Marlins are the only teams to win a World Series in their current parks.

Let’s keep it that way. Dodgers, American League or Bust.

As for as personal preference, I’m rooting for the Rays in the American League…although I am torn because I really would like Ken Griffey Jr. to play in a World Series.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 1, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i just say

i would be shocked if you, the founder of the official Viva El Birdos chapter of the Rays Bandwagon himself jumped ship and rooted for the chisox. are you seriously considering it or are you just saying it’s difficult to root against griffey?

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There'll be a game thread going up at 2:45

for those of you who want to follow the action here or w/ any of our sbnation friends.

by chuckb on Oct 1, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that Eastern Time?

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

And I live in the ChiSox viewing area here in Iowa, although this is a “Cub town”. So, Go Sox. I don’t think they have a chance, really, but I’ll pull for them. I’m no fan of Guillen, though. That is for certain.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Oct 1, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, the 2006 Cardinals didn't have a chance either.

“Tigers in 3”

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mri on sheets reveals muscle tear in right elbow. shut down for playoffs

Cards will probably sign him during the offseason with an incentive based contract.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Incentives based?

Heck no. That puppy would be all money upfront!

Remember, we are losing Mark Mulder. We have to have 2 pitchers to be promised will be coming back. Having only 1 might make the fans think they have to make a move at the deadline.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 1, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

is he a pitch to contact guy?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming you mean "starting" pitchers

since Kinney and Johnson could fill the requirement for the bullpen.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Its our style. I’ll bet our front office goes grocery shopping and buys nothing but the dented cans because they are slightly cheaper and you can still get something out of them.

by Ray Lankford on Oct 1, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's my rankings for favorites

1. Rays – they are the underdog, they really don’t have any superstars, just a solid, competitive team that works hard. Plus, garza looks insane. gotta give him props for that

2. Angels – while I hate the AL, this year I’ll be pulling for the Rays and Angels. I am a huge Whitey Herzog fan, and this is where he went after the Cards. I also like Vlad Guerrero quite a bit. I am tempted to lower them though due to their stupid LAA claim

3. Phillies – these guys are the ones I’m pulling for in the NL. the Phillies haven’t done a whole lot lately, just kind of underachieved I guess. not sure why I’m pulling for them, other than I can’t pick a team from the NL Central, and I don’t like the Dodgers all that much

4. Dodgers – well, I kinda lied. I think they are a pretty interesting team and could surprise. or could be swept by the cubs

5. White Sox – my grandpa’s favorite team, he was a diehard fan and went to most of the games when he still lived in Chicago (and was alive). I would put them at #4 but I agree with Red Baron, Ozzie is a first rate asshat. I do like Alexei Ramirez though, 4 grand slams by a rookie is totally ridiculous. runner up for AL rookie of the year. I also like Quentin (it may be interesting to see him come back in the second round of the playoffs if they make it) and Jenks a lot.

6. Cubs – I like underdog teams, and it will shut everyone up. I don’t want to be around all the dejected cubs fans either if they lose

7. Brewers – I love Miller Park, but that’s about it. lame manager, so lame he got fired 2 weeks ago. I hate Ryan Braun, and most of the rest of the guys are overrated. I do like CC though.

8. Red Sox – I wouldn’t say their fans are all that knowledgeable really. sick of hearing about them. nuff said.

go rays

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 1, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"I don’t want to be around all the dejected cubs fans...."

Are you kidding? God invented 2006 world series apparel for that exact situation.

by sdrone on Oct 1, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got to go with an all LA World Series

Because I want to hear this legend call one more World Series and because of Tommy!

We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

by KYCards on Oct 1, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not any more

It is now the LA Angels of Anaheim….goodness I hate that name

by StLHugo on Oct 1, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this

they are still in Anaheim, as much as they’d like to be LA. so now when I see LAA, I think Los Angeles/Anaheim

go rays

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 1, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uness Fox hires Scully

you won’t hear him.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know and it's a shame.

But I would think he might find his way in the radio booth…maybe Charlie Steiner will let him call a few innings per game? The Dodgers in the WS without Vin calling in some sort of fashion would be a crime against the game.

We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

by KYCards on Oct 1, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on Vin but Tommy?

I have been soured on Lasorda after the whole debacle of him selling out the farm (Konerko et. al.) for Jeff Shaw a few years ago. I used to like Lasorda and his persona but never thought he was the greatest manager. But his GM/VP stint really bugged me.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Oct 1, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Predicament

OT: OK. This is kind of mean, but Chris Duncan is the Cardinal for the month of October on the 2008 Cardinals calendar, so I’m chosing to not acknowledge the month of October this year. (I buy the calendar to show my Cardinal support at the office and to look at cute baseball players.) Do I stay with Eckstein and the month of September or skip ahead to Yadi and the month of November?? Man, I hope CDunc doesn’t read this site…

by launchshuttle on Oct 1, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

first of all....

“look at cute baseball players.” I wouldn’t know anything about that.

Second of all, Dunc was hurt this year and had a bad start, and while I hope he isn’t back next year (since I feel we have better) that doesn’t mean he wasn’t part of the team.

Third, why is Eckstein on a 2008 calendar anyway? If I had to make a 2008 StL calendar in like Sept of last year I would probably choose:
Carp, Wainwright, Izzy, Pujols, Molina, Ankiel, Rolen(he was still on the team then), Franklin, Kennedy, Schumaker, Miles, Duncan. Ludwick would have been a choice but he was more of a bench player and fairly new last year so I don’t know if he would have been chosen.

by StLHugo on Oct 1, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Cardinals from the year before

I think I’m going with November/Yadi since Yadi is currently a Cardinal.

The saddest part about the calendar is that for the month of January, it’s Juan Encarnacion…yet, the picture is of Preston Wilson. HOW do you screw that up?? It’s your job to pick out a picture to use for a calendar and you can’t even get the right person. Wow.

by launchshuttle on Oct 1, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good lord.

maybe “they all look alike” to the calendar makers? that’s just bad, bad, bad.

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can help with teh look at the cute baseball players

I don’t hate ;)

….yeah, ogre isn’t what I would like to see on October, I would totally cut and paste a previous month over his ass.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i might have walked right past chris duncan last weekend walking his dog.

it was a tall athletic blond young man who looked just like chris duncan, anyway. i was thrown off because of the noticeable lack of chaw.

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unlikely

he lives in arizona, doesn’t he? I know Dave does.

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar

by SleepyCA on Oct 1, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still could have been

He probably would have been in town through the end of the season. He’s generally been in the dugout during home games.

by TNTinCO on Oct 1, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, if it was him, apparently i have a lucky way of walking right past celebrities without trying to say hi

i was in paris after a semester abroad in may 04, and i walked right past kevin smith and his family on the champs elysee. i know it was him because he was wearing a harley quinn hockey jersey.

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My sister

spent half an hour talking to this really nice guy who was waiting on his wife at the salon recently. She kept thinking “man, I feel like I’ve met this guy somewhere before.” it was after she sat down in the stylist’s chair and he was gone that she realized it was Carpenter! She was so bummed – she’s a huge Cards fan, like me – but just could not place him out of context.

by TNTinCO on Oct 1, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I get some help?

I wrote a fan post yesterday that had some tables in it but I can’t seem to get it to translate over to the site. I’ve had trouble with this before and I think that the html coding I used is correct. In fact, it has worked on other sites because I tested it. I know we’re supposed to be using CSS over here now or something… but I admittedly don’t even know what that is…

P.S. I voted for the TB Rays. Their team just has so many fine young players. Perfect example of the importance of player development.

by AndyB83 on Oct 1, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don't know how to do tables

but you can just use <‘pre> and <’/pre> tags (remove the ’ ) to make columns line up.

example 
1  2  3  4 
1  2  3  4 

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar

by SleepyCA on Oct 1, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: Brewers position players

Not sure why this stood out to me, but I was just looking at the Brewers post-season roster and it occurred to me they only have one Latin position player (backup catcher Mike Rivera). I find this almost amazing in today’s baseball but it really doesn’t mean much. Just a “hmmmm” kinda thing.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tbs sucks, blackouts sucks

but listening to Uecker is gold!

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

given my previous post

the worst case scenarios for me are if the red sox beat the angels or if the brewers beat the phillies

go rays

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 1, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

also

the only way the cubs will blow it vs. the dodgers will be to pitch to Manny Ramirez with men on base

go rays

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 1, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but

with the Cubs, especially in October, this is still entirely possible.

by ArachNerd on Oct 2, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how the Brewers get

their own announcer doing the play-by-play on TBS.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Oct 1, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buck

We had Joe Buck do the 06 WS, I know he isn’t one of our main announcers, and not even doing it on a semi regular basis anymore, but during 06 he did play by play quite often on FSN. So not as uncommon as you would think.

by StLHugo on Oct 1, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was a great onion article about that

“joe buck can’t resist joining in on ’let’s go cards!’ chant” or something along those lines

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not the same at all

Buck was already a national announcer for FOX, and one of their top guys. this would be more like Dan McLaughlin doing a Cardinals playoff game (even though he’s done a couple of regional games here and there for FOX.) just doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me…

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Oct 1, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eastern vs Central time

RB got confused, he set the game thread to post at 2:45 so, should be in 3 minutes, but the game started at 2:00

by StLHugo on Oct 1, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ChiSox

First off, the thought of the ChiSox being the team to make it 101 years makes me want a Chicago series.

Also, haven’t seen anyone else mention this, but with Griffey Jr. with the ChiSox now, I’m rooting for them all the way. It’d be really nice to see the ‘second best left handed outfielder from Donora PA’ win a ring.

Not to mention the fact that I love his home run swing. So, Go ChiSox

Cubs are Scrubs

by Arambar on Oct 1, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the few for the Cubs

My grandparents were from Chicago. My parents were from Chicago. I grew up in St. Louis. Thus my allegiance for the Cards. If you look at the crowd shots of the Cubs games, you see alot of the elderly fans. People who have waited their whole lives to see the Cubs win the World Series. For these people, I want the Cubs to win. So they can say they actually lived to see it. But its a loooog road in the playoffs, & at the time of this post, their not off to a good start!

CliffNotes: "My Dad wanted me to be a baseball player!"
Roy Hobbs: "The Natural"

by CliffNotes on Oct 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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