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They Took a Vote and Said No

Just about everyone chimed in yesterday about the imminent departure of our fearless leader, the esteemed Mr. Borowsky, and I don't have much of anything to add that wasn't said already. However, we do have one more tradition that I think needs to be observed in this case.


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Thank you once again, Mr. Borowsky, for your service. It will not be forgotten.

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With the Cardinals' season over, we're all going to be watching the playoffs sans our beloved local St. Louis nine for the second consecutive season. With that in mind, I thought we might do the same thing we did last season and adopt another team as our official Viva El Birdos rooting interest.

I'll include a poll, and whichever team gets the most votes becomes our adopted team for the next however long, until they're eliminated from the postseason. We'll try to make sure there are game threads, and we can all follow along with some team, at least. It may not be love, but it'll have to do, until the- well, you know the rest.

The candidates:

The Chicago Cubs- We all know the Cubs. We know the players, we know the fans, we know the story. Personally, I could never root for the Cubbies, but you all may feel entirely different. So, they go in the pile.

The Milwaukee Brewers- Again, we're all pretty familiar with the Brewers, their players, and whatnot. As many times as we see them a year, we should be familiar. Pros- Young, exciting team, great story with first playoff appearance in 26 years, pleasant fans and excellent seasoned pork products. Cons- shirt untucking, Ryan Braun, beat the Cards around badly this season.

Los Angeles Dodgers- I admit, I was hoping to see the DBacks get in, just because I happen to like a bunch of their players. The Dodgers are one of those old line, classic organisations that I can really get behind, though, if I must. Pros- Another young team, for the most part. Joe Torre is a class act, and can stick it to Steinbrenner. Lots and lots of Alyssa Milano. Cons- So very tired of hearing about Manny, either being Manny or being anyone else. Everyone still bitter toward Russel Martin. Dodger dogs wildly overrated.

Philadelphia Phillies- Personally, I can't stand the Phillies. I've hated them for a very long time, since those early 90s teams. Mostly, I just couldn't stand Darren Daulton. Pros- Young, largely homegrown team. Feature a local St. Louis product. Tough to root against Chase Utley. I don't know about you, but I really like Brad Lidge. No idea why, but there it is. Cons- Fans are, um, less pleasant than some others. May see a player severely injured by a battery. (actually, that might be under pros; I just can't decide) Said local product has already stolen one MVP from Albert and is attempting to steal another. A drunken, celebrating Brett Myers could mean bad things for Mrs. Myers. Chase Utley should have been ours.

Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays- This one is probably my personal choice. I really like just about everything about this team. Pros- Very young, ridiculously talented. Outstanding story, very '69 Mets. Cool manager, better glasses. May get the chance to see World Series games with empty seats. Cons- Stupid name change irritating. Awful stadium. Really, really awful stadium. Tired of Florida teams winning more championships than us.

Los Angeles Angels- I'm also a big Angels fan; in fact, the only team in the AL West I don't like is the Texas Rangers. Pros- Outstanding pitching, dynamic offense. Always fun to watch, with aggressive, risk taking style. Will likely get to root for half their team in a few years when they're all Cardinals. Cons- No rally monkeys this time around. Largely a bought team, with ridiculous contracts all over the place in the outfield. Still not sure exactly where this team plays.

Chicago White Sox- I can't get on board with this team. I know some people like them, but Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen are both gigantic asshats as far as I'm concerned. Pros- Would irritate Cubs fans. A lot. No, I really mean a lot. No, more than that. Local product Mark Buerhle still kicking around on the South Side. Angry Ozzie Guillen is wicked funny. Cons- Roster full of overpriced, aging players. Crap ballpark. Carlos Quentin should have been in a Cards uni. Obnoxious fans. Happy Ozzie Guillen absolutely insufferable. Stores on Miracle Mile overpriced.

Boston Red Sox- I've said some very nasty things about the Red Sox at various times, and I mostly stick by them. Some are legit, others are motivated mostly by jealousy, I freely admit. Pros- One of the true model franchises in all of baseball. Haven't torn down their historic ballpark for more luxury boxes. Rabid, loyal, and knowledgeable fan base. Word wicked may gain even wider usage. Bill James is the man. Cons- Tired of seeing New England franchises win everything. Fan base also insufferable. Really not looking forward to any more semi nude pictures of Jonathan Papelbon. Friggin Boston.

For the record, Hardcore Legend put up a very nice fanpost a while back, supporting the Rays' October cause, and it got quite a nice response. I sort of suspect they're going to be the pick, but we'll just have to count the tallies.

In Cardinal related news, um, Kyle Lohse's deal still happened. Tony and staff are probably doing exit interviews, and may punch Chris Perez in the crotch as part of his. Uh, that's about it.

It's really pretty outside today, everyone. Try to get out and enjoy the weather, if you can.

Poll
Who do we love?
Cubbies
45 votes
Brewers
93 votes
Dodgers
156 votes
Phillies
41 votes
Tampa Bay
844 votes
White Sox
99 votes
Angels
103 votes
Red Sawx
15 votes

1396 votes | Poll has closed

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Right on!!!

Where’s this rumored poll?

by cardzfanbub on Oct 1, 2008 10:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Up now.

Sorry, forgot it at first.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by the red baron on Oct 1, 2008 10:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nice title on the post

mayhaps they’ll play that song for me tonight. when i see them live. with the music and songs and such.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Oct 1, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ole English

I thought you were going to use Old English today? ;)

Rays all the way

by StLHugo on Oct 1, 2008 10:07 AM EDT   0 recs

I like "Ole English."

Is that sorta like Spanglish?

by Youneverknow on Oct 1, 2008 10:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I tryed,

and yet fownd my abulets unmade to the chalenge. Thus, I forsook the atempt.

Victory is sweet, even deep in the cheap seats.

by the red baron on Oct 1, 2008 10:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Vote

Red Sox. Well, they wear red socks.

by deweydell on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 AM EDT   0 recs

Two words why I want to see the Cubs win:

Jimmy Baseball. Deep down, I think he may be a real HOF candidate, and winning it all with the Cubs and coming back next year, anywhere, and hitting a few more homers might be enough to get him in. All the gold gloves, the home runs, and maybe two WS wins with two different teams? I would love to see him catch fire in the playoffs and make at least one spectacular catch per game.

Also, the Cubs winning now means they don’t win for another 100+ years, right?

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by palampe on Oct 1, 2008 10:18 AM EDT   0 recs

FLAGGED

I flagged this post because it is obvious the poster is under the influence of illegal narcotics. GET HELP NOW.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 10:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i second the flagging

i am as big of a JEd fan as any but i cant root for the cubs to win…hell, if i played for the cubs i wouldn’t root for them to win!

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 10:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If the Cubs win...

I think it will just HIGHLIGHT the 100 years of futility. Something magical about 100 years on the nose of wretched baseball. If it ends up being 126 years, instead, what’s that? It’s just a number. No, 100 years is something special, and makes you feel like it won’t happen again for another 100 years.

I like to think of Cub Championships as Brigadoon.

by tinstl on Oct 1, 2008 3:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I see what you're saying

but I’d prefer 200.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 4:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I prefer 1000

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think we can all agree on this

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll root for the Cubs

b/c 1) Most of my friends are Cubs fans and
2) An all Chicago series would be sweet

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 10:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

About as sweet as that all-New York Series was, right?

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 10:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If I was from two hours outside NYC

I probably would have thought it was sweet.

And if 2005 never happened, and all Chicago series would have been amazing no matter where you were from.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 10:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, I'm about 45 minutes outside of Chicago

and I don’t think there would be anything “sweet” about an all Chicago World Series.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You are an Illinois transplant

I take it?

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No, born and raised and lived my whole life in Illinois

although you could say I’m a Chicagoland transplant.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gotcha, downstater.

My grandma was a hard core White Sox fan, so I’ve always pulled for them.

Truthfully, I don’t really care who wins the world series, as long as we can get a seven game series for once.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I disagree. It would be VERY sweet

I think a the White Sox sweeping the Cubs would be exceedingly sweet. I’d look forward to….

1 . Soriana making multiple fielding errors on routine fly balls.
2. Aramis Ramiriez going 0 for 200
3. Derrick Lee hitting the occasional bloop single with no power
4. J Ed hitting a homer in each of the 4 losses
5. And let’s not forget Zambrano leaving a wake of dead water coolers after pitching 3 innings and allowing 7 runs while mumbling “I had to go to Venezuela yesterday” after the game
6. The Ozzie Guillen post game news conference tirade laced with 17 utterances of “@#$# you Cubs fans”

And then half the people I know going into mourning.

You think that wouldn’t be sweet?

by sdrone on Oct 1, 2008 11:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh wow, that would be orgasmic.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1000000

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Oct 1, 2008 12:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i can't decide if i agree or disagree with you

on the one hand, an all chicago series (or all L.A. for that matter) would be very annoying to me as i hate to see one city soak up all the attention. on the other, the sheer intensity of competition centered on one city might be interesting to watch.
that said, i’m still rooting for the rays and (i guess) the brewers. i’ll forgive the showboating and shirt untucking this time and chalk it up to youthful exuberance. they better not make a habit of it though.

by mattybobo on Oct 1, 2008 11:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As insufferable as White Sox fans are

I would find it highly entertaining if the Sox beat the cubs in the World Series once it was all over. Not enough to root for the cubs to come any where close though.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It would be nice

to see the white sox beat the cubbies. Just to hear the cub fans bitch and moan.

by madeintaiwan on Oct 1, 2008 11:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HOLY MOLY!!!

The first “El-Train Series” in 102 years? (Did the El-Trains even exist in 1906? I dunno…) They’d have to get Urlacher and the rest of the Bears’ defense as “peacekeepers” in the streets; kinda like Dick Butkus’ former duty in the Illinois National Guard… the word that “BUTKUS IS ON THE STREETS!!!” was allegedly a key factor in damping down racial riots in Chi-town in 1964 (or so says the urban myth!)

I saw where Wrigleyville bars are going to call “closing time” in the 7th inning during all possible “clinching” games; apparently, they don’t know how to spell “hubris” at the Friendly Confines…

Me, I root for the Cardinals! I’ll just enjoy the baseball, no matter who wins.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Oct 1, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, Wrigleyville bars have agreed to stop serving alcohol

after the 7th inning in all Cub clinching home games (in other words, have no fear the taps will continue to pour) and then will open back up after an hour.

I really don’t know what that is supposed to accomplish, but I find it funny anytime people get upset when they hear there will be no more booze sold. Like it a freaking birthright or something.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's why I'm casting a vote for Ol' Gene Amondson!

The Wrigley bars doing the prohibition thing also have agreed to evoke the 21st amendment in case the game goes into extras.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 12:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If the World Series came down to a contest between the Cubs

and Osama Bin Laden’s Al-Qaida & Taliban All-Star Team, I’m pulling for Osama.

"There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, 'You never know.'" Joaquin Andujar

by Big Mike on Oct 1, 2008 12:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If the Cubs win

Then I’ll be of the strong belief that baseball is rigged more than professional wrestling.

Don't judge me!!!

by BigdJC on Oct 1, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rays...

I went for the Rays, but I’m really pulling for the Dodgers in the NL. I actually like Manny, and I’d love to see Boston fans get all pissy if he goes on and wins a World Series for another team. I’m a fan of Billingsley and Kemp also.

That being said, I think it’s going to be hard for a lot of baseball fans to root against the Rays. They spend very little money, don’t have much fan support, have been very bad for a long time, and finally realized that they had to draft well and develop their own guys to be competitive. And that they did. Go Rays.

by Jack618 on Oct 1, 2008 10:22 AM EDT   0 recs

i voted for LAD

but i really like LAA and TB also. I just had to pick an NL team, I like the Dodgers, plus I dislike the other three NL teams.

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 1:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pale Hose or the Brewers

both for the same reason…
It would seriously piss off the insufferable Cub fans around here.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Oct 1, 2008 10:38 AM EDT   0 recs

ok honestly

last winter who didn’t laugh out loud when Kenny said “Were not trying to compete with the Tigers; they’re trying to compete with us.”

I know I did and the Sox are this st louisan transplant to chicago’s team 1B

by vances law on Oct 1, 2008 11:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Angels

I’ve liked the Angels as my favorite American League team for quite some time now, and ever since seeing a game in person last year at Angels Stadium, the fascination grew even more.

However, my second choice is the Rays. They might even have eeked out the Angels this year if they hadn’t of changed their stinkin’ name for no reason at all. Might be petty, but when you’re vying to be my non-Cardinals/American League team, you can’t go and do stupid things like change your name for no damn good reason and expect me to just accept it.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 10:52 AM EDT   0 recs

Actually,

It was a pretty brilliant move if you ask me. Worked out totally when the team became a winner. They ditched the old name, the old colors (which were terrible), and re-branded the team and sent it in another direction under the relatively new management. I thought/think it was a great move. I would love to see the revenue differences with regards to paraphernalia sales (some of the would be a result of the whole winning think, I know).

by t7rick on Oct 1, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

i still don’t understand why you hate the name change, tackle box.
they didn’t have any long tradition or anything as the devil rays. other than being the worst team in baseball, i guess.

by adiueordie on Oct 1, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

long time Angels follower...

I still have my California Angles cap. I was not thrilled with the Disney phase. I really liked the Autrys but it wasn’t great success back then. I think the new name is plain silly even the change to just Anaheim bothered me.

I really like Mike Scioscia both as a manager and former catcher. It is clear that the problem was with Guillen and not Scioscia. I also think Robinson was more at fault.

How can any Cards fan not root for the Angels since we seem to get lot’s of them (e.g. JED, Eck, Santa). Oops, I forgot we got AK.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Oct 1, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If the Twins had made it...

I would have been rooting for an Upper Midwest Series (Twins-Brewers), JUST because it would have had the suits at ESPN and Fox looking for windows to jump out of…but since that is not a possibility, I’ll go with the Rays, even though that is the most hideous stadium in existence today, I think you have to admire how they have managed to pull themselves up and not only stand toe to toe with the fat cats in the A.L. East, but come out on top.

by tbell61 on Oct 1, 2008 10:57 AM EDT   0 recs

+1

to beating out the AL East fat cats! Take that, Sawx and Yanks!

by cardsgirl95 on Oct 1, 2008 11:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can see it now...

…Joe Morgan doing the games on ESPN radio and having no clue who half the players were…maybe even not knowing what teams were playing…“The Twins…no such team exists…I’m in a dream world…Wake me up, someone, please…”

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 1, 2008 1:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rays and Dodgers

although i find it odd that more people dont root for the St Louie kid and his Phillies…as much as it would pain me to see Pujols loose out to him in the MVP i wouldnt mind seeing the Phils reign in a world series, and my brother-in-law is a very good friend to one of them so that makes me a little biased too…

i have liked the Rays ever since a friend of mine was drafted by them and love the way they have treated their farm system…i dont know why i liked the Dodgers i guess Torre has something to do with it and the fact that they sat their high priced veterans so the more talented kids could play. i like Manny as a hitter but i think he quit on his other team which is disgraceful. and they have another local boy in DeWitt i like it when Missouri kids show up in the Show!!!

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Oct 1, 2008 11:03 AM EDT   0 recs

+1

Rays/Dodgers WS gets my vote

Proud sponsor of the Official 2008 StL Cardinal theme song: "Beautiful Day" by U2

by gocards62 on Oct 1, 2008 12:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The sCrUBS?

C’mon, anyone who would cheer for the Cubs should give their Pujols jersey to a real Cardinal fan. Then they should go up to the World’s Largest Gay Bar and worship the plants on the wall. Hope the urine smell doesn’t overtake you or the cement falling from the stadium hit you, oh nevermind, I hope it does. You can’t be a Cards fan and root for the Cubs.

Who do I love? My choice wasn’t on there. . . whoever is currently playing the Cubs.

You may run like Hayes, but you hit like shit. - Lou Brown

by PaxtonJoe on Oct 1, 2008 11:07 AM EDT   0 recs

Um...

Yeah…

That seems a bit over the line.

by JMedwick on Oct 1, 2008 11:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And yet

here I am.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Anybody but...

The Cubs and Red Soxs is fine with me. Red Soxs fans are insufferable and I am afraid that Cubs fans will become the same if they win.

by JMedwick on Oct 1, 2008 11:09 AM EDT   0 recs

I could live w/this

Proud sponsor of the Official 2008 StL Cardinal theme song: "Beautiful Day" by U2

by gocards62 on Oct 1, 2008 12:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

TBS - backup channel?

Hi, does anyone know what TBS does if one of the games goes long into the next scheduled one (e.g., Cubs play past 10pm into the Red Sox game).

I remember FOX used to put one of the games on FX so no one misses out their team. I surely hope TBS has such a backup plan

by cardsfaninmass on Oct 1, 2008 11:17 AM EDT   0 recs

I don't exactly remember what happened last year

although i think they just picked up the game in progress and used a lot of split screens until the first game got over.

Anyway, if they were so inclined, TBS could always use TNT as it’s backup channel. Not sure if they will, but it’s a choice.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Oct 1, 2008 11:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes, they will

They said during the promos during last night’s game that the 2nd and/or 3rd games will start on TNT if the previous game is still going on TBS.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 1, 2008 11:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's good news

Split screens would be an absolute insult to fans

by cardsfaninmass on Oct 1, 2008 11:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

TBS hosting october is an insult to fans.

Especially after they don’t learn from last years disaster. Can’t wait to get my fill of Frank TV spots and stupid Schedules that will cause me to miss 2/3’s of the games.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 1, 2008 11:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No Dane Cook this year

but still Frank TV.

It’s a near push, but 08 gets the nod.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Oct 1, 2008 11:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

at least Frank

can occasionally be funny. I still wanna kick Dane Cook in the face . I have moved past just wanting to punch him in the face.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Oct 1, 2008 6:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They will be on TNT

just like last year. The will start any overlap games on TNT and will simulcast on both channels until a commercial break comes up.

TBS is the best channel to carry the playoffs. They are the only network to broadcast the games in true 1080 and 5.1 audio. Their colors are vibrant (not bleached like FOX).

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 1, 2008 12:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs