a look at ludwick
a few days ago i turned in my player blurbs for the Hardball Times Season Preview. here's what i wrote about ryan ludwick:
| AB | H | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | AVG | OBP | SLG | RC/27 | |||
| 2006 AAA | 508 | 135 | 34 | 2 | 28 | 60 | .266 | .343 | .506 | 6.39 | ||
| 2006 MLE | 506 | 133 | 30 | 1 | 25 | 52 | .263 | .332 | .477 | 5.76 | ||
| 2007 (pro-rated) | 506 | 135 | 37 | 0 | 23 | 55 | .267 | .339 | .479 | 5.94 |
the "bb" column includes hbps, by the way. ludwick put up the 2006 line at toledo, a difficult hitter's park. his slash lines there were nearly identical to his career minor-league totals (.270 / .349 / .501), so it was by no means a career year; on the contrary, it was a typical one. and we'd have to say the same about ludwick's 2007 season, because it was essentially a repeat of 2006 --- his 2007 big-league stats are almost identical to his 2006 MLEs.
a 2d-rounder who moved swiftly through the minors, ludwick was once a well-regarded prospect --- a centerfielder with 20-hr potential. but just as he was breaking into the majors he suffered injuries to his hip (2002) and knee (2004), which cost him opportunities and development time; the last two seasons were his first healthy ones since he was in double A. when the cardinals called him up last year, i was skeptical of ludwick because of a too-high strikeout rate --- even in the stellar 2006 season he whiffed in nearly 1/3 of his at-bats. ludwick doesn't draw enough walks to counteract a k rate that high; his career big-league on-base pct was hovering around .300 entering the 2007 season. but he fanned in fewer than 1/4 of his at-bats last year. ludwick will have to sustain that contact rate to maintain his beachhead in the big leagues.
ludwick also has a longstanding reverse platoon split. he has been far better vs rhp than lhp throughout his career, including the last couple of seasons:
| vs rhp | vs lhp | |
|---|---|---|
| 2007 | .298 / .362 / .547 | .221 / .307 / .377 |
| 2006 | .266 / .348 / .524 | .261 / .324 / .473 |
| career | .278 / .341 / .465 | .211 / .286 / .418 |
between the k rate and the lousy performance vs lefties, ludwick is probably not ever going to be an all-star, but if he played 150 games i'd trust him to provide league-average corner-outfielder production. he's not quite reggie sanders, but he's better than juan encarnacion --- and a lot cheaper than both. the other day the red baron handicapped the competition for playing time in the cards' crowded outfield, and he had ankiel, rasmus, and barton emerging as the everyday players, with ludwick as an oft-used 4th outfielder. while i don't disagree with that assessment, i wouldn't count ludwick out of the running. he's got less upside than any of the other 3, but i also think he's got less downside than ankiel or barton; he's only a year older than ankiel and at least as reliable with the glove, and it seems as if he is adjusting to big-league pitchers rather than the other way around.
if nothing else, i'm glad to have ludwick around as insurance in case ankiel's a flash in the pan or barton's too green or rasmus needs some time to acclimate to the big leagues. he's not anybody to get too excited about, but he's definitely an asset --- an average hitter who can play his position and makes the league minimum.
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With Ludwick
by vinniefromjersey on Jan 3, 2008 8:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Perfect summary of how I feel about Lud
by sdrone on Jan 3, 2008 8:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Against Lefties
I wish we could squeeze Kevin Mench on this team.
by DimitroffVodka on Jan 3, 2008 8:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Career LH splits that aren't too bad
.336 .438 .627 1.065 Pujols
.265 .337 .370 .707 Yadi (better then his RH split and last year he had a .288 .388 .423 .812)
.261 .333 .379 .712 Spiezio
.354 .407 .456 .863 Ryan (sample size)
.299 .338 .567 .905 Ankiel (sample size)
.346 .370 .692 1.062 Wainwright (sample size)
So assuming Rolen is healthy we have a lineup of:
Ryan 2B
Ankiel CF
Pujols 1B
Rolen 3B
Spiezio LF
Barton RF
Izturis SS
Yadi C
Wainwright P (bat you second leadoff hitter 9th not pitcher 8th ;))
by StLHugo on Jan 3, 2008 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hugo
by Calhoun on Jan 3, 2008 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LH Splits
by StLHugo on Jan 3, 2008 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
by Calhoun on Jan 3, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
by StLHugo on Jan 3, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mench & barton
by dmb60614 on Jan 3, 2008 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ludwick is the new Taguchi for me
.314/.415/.600 1.015OPS in 41PA
And while he isn't "clutch" in the standard 2out RISP definition (.195BA) he does good in the "close and late" type games with a .318/.375/.636 1.011OPS line.
Taguchi last year was .406/.474/.500 .974OPS in 38PA as a PH and .286/.419/.429 .847OPS in those "close and late" situations.
If Ludwick can be that "oft used" 4th OF on a TLR team then we are a stronger team for it since he knows the role he has and wants to do it well.
by StLHugo on Jan 3, 2008 9:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where is SleepyCA
by silent_bob on Jan 3, 2008 9:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
right here
by SleepyCA on Jan 3, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ludites here too
by sportsman on Jan 3, 2008 9:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish we had a Ludwick in the middle infield
I know some folks around here are high on Ryan and Hoffpauir, and I know Kennedy could well rebound to something resembling league average. Those scenarios are possible, and I hope they pan out. But I can also see every one of them (+ Izturis) washing out, and I wish we had someone like a Ludwick waiting to absorb those at-bats.
Or what the hell, maybe Ludwick at second? He's probably got at-least the range of Jeff Kent.
by bgodar on Jan 3, 2008 9:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually Ryan is the MIF Ludwick
His minor league career numbers are almost the same as his last season numbers as well.
.296/.344/.382 .726OPS Career MiL
.289/.347/.406 .753OPS 2007 ML
Ryan is what he is, and that is the MIF version of Ludwick without the crazy reverse split.
by StLHugo on Jan 3, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ludwick at second?
by DizzyDean17 on Jan 3, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like ryan
by benstl on Jan 3, 2008 10:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
2 points....
- He wears number 47 (Mabry's old number) and made a link between himself and the former owner of his number - he sees himself as a 4th outfielder who contributes a good deal to the team and is very much ok with that position - TLR's response was that he should have higher goals than that.
- I believe it was Al or Rooney or Shannon who said it, but told the story that Ludwick was getting concerned that his BA wasn't as high as he'd like it, and our hitting coach told him to not worry about that stuff and just concentrate on driving the ball - i.e. they liked his pop and wanted as many extra base hits/home runs as possible. They'd rather him hit .260 with more home runs than hit .280 with fewer.
by SmashedAtoms on Jan 3, 2008 10:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
The other comment is vaguer but I do remember it.
by StLHugo on Jan 3, 2008 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
happy 2008 to all !
«Schumaker has said for several seasons that he sees himself as a No. 4 outfielder, a So Taguchi type. Manager Tony La Russa has encouraged Schumaker not to pigeon-hole himself into a bench role. He should think bigger, La Russa said this past spring.»
by Johnny64 on Jan 3, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As frustrating as it has been
by ridgesee on Jan 3, 2008 10:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Been brought up before
by StLHugo on Jan 3, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For whatever it's worth...
by The Ol Goaler on Jan 3, 2008 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had the same thoughts
by ridgesee on Jan 3, 2008 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BP
Now if they did some live BP it may actually help but the problem is batters would not get a lot of cuts in vs a live pitcher. The pitcher can only throw so many pitches in game type situations. It is easy to throw about 200 BP pitches but it gets different when you need a pitcher to throw game style(live).
It is probably hard to find someone to do that.
I played ball in college and that my take on the BP issue.
by ICbirdfan on Jan 3, 2008 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BP pitchers
- you have to be able to do it....correctly and consistently
- do it every day.....at odd times
- for very little pay
- respond to various hitters requests
- travel constantly
- your arm has to hold up
- easy to get along with and not likely to disrupt the process or sue the team
by Hinkster on Jan 3, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ludwick has had...
by guayzimi on Jan 3, 2008 10:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reverse Platoon Splits
by rrvwmr on Jan 3, 2008 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't the article posted on What IF
by Hardcore Legend on Jan 3, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
White Sox
White Sox get Nick Swisher. White Sox give up Gio Gonzalez #1 prospect, Fautino De Los Santos #2 prospect, and Ryan Sweeny #6 prospect.
I guess Swisher signed an extension thru 2011 and the Sox will be paying about $5 mill per year.
Seems like a good deal, depends on how you feel about trading prospects. Probably good for the Sox since they don't overpay for Hunter or Rowand.
by ICbirdfan on Jan 3, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope Mo
by Hardcore Legend on Jan 3, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
It would be nice to see what it would take to get Blanton.
by ICbirdfan on Jan 3, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huston Street
by Eckstreem on Jan 3, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to get him
by silent_bob on Jan 3, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd give up our Top 2 pitching prospects
Of course, that's not saying much.
by Hardcore Legend on Jan 3, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't.
by the red baron on Jan 3, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
by StanTheManFan on Jan 3, 2008 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
by Hardcore Legend on Jan 3, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mo needs to make a move
Don't get me wrong love getting the trade news and I think Ludwick will be an above average bench player. Guess I will wait like everyone else but this ice cold stove league is giving me a chill. Maybe MO has a big log he will toss on the fire to warm all of us up this winter. Hope I don't lose a finger to frostbite first.
by That's a Winner on Jan 3, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs



















