Reyes for Carlos Quentin
A good friend of mine lives in Arizona and says that Quentin is viewed much like Reyes is here. A guy with a lot of talent who's pretty much been a bust. My question is would you like to see Reyes traded for Quentin and give both guys a change of scenery?
Reyes - 25
Minors: 16-9, 3.23 ERA, 1.04 WHIP: 81 ERA+
MLB: 8-23, 5.42 ERA, 1.35 WHIP
Quentin - 25
MLB performance: .229/.316/.345: 84 OPS+
Minors: .313/.413/.527: .940 OPS (sorry couldn't find any equivalence stats)
Very similar track record; both were very good college players, had very good success in the minors, but have struggled at the MLB level. Quentin is pretty much out of a job with Brynes, Young, Upton all coming back. I think the D-backs may be willing to pull the trigger on such a trade, what do all of you think?
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As a Cardinal fan I love it
by Zubin on Sep 29, 2007 5:43 PM EDT 0 recs
I would love it too
Here's some other interesting info concerning the comparison. On Baseball America's top prospects list, both Reyes and Quentin made the list in 2005 and 2006. Reyes was #47 in '05 and #41 in '06. Quentin was ranked higher at #22 in '05 and #20 in '06.
by mtalken on Sep 29, 2007 5:53 PM EDT 0 recs
Why trade what we need for what don't need.
We have a glut of outfielders. We don't need another one unless they are of the 950OPS + types.
by DriverZn on Sep 29, 2007 5:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Assuming
by aet15 on
Sep 29, 2007 6:26 PM EDT
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We already have
Ankiel
Edmonds
Ludwick
Duncan, Ankiel, and Ludwick all project to be equal or better hitters. I don't see the need.
by DriverZn on
Sep 29, 2007 6:42 PM EDT
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Actually
by spants on
Sep 29, 2007 7:19 PM EDT
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What about Rick?
by Zubin on
Sep 29, 2007 9:52 PM EDT
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Lud
by joker24 on
Sep 29, 2007 10:00 PM EDT
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just out of curiousity
anyway someone earlier in the season pointed out that he is under club control for next year. For the life of me I can't figure out the minor league free agentrules; I thought we'd have to resign him, but whoever it was that made the argument was convincing. Let's really hope he comes back. If we signed him to 3Y/20M we'd get a hell of a deal imho...
by SleepyCA on
Oct 1, 2007 12:14 AM EDT
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wait a minute
by Irishman on
Oct 1, 2007 2:52 PM EDT
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not saying that is what I want to happen
by SleepyCA on
Oct 1, 2007 4:21 PM EDT
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OK, I lied
PA WARP1 WARP3 HR GIDP
Encarnacion 307 0.6 1.1 9 11
Ludwick 336 3.0 3.9 14 1 (!!!)
Carlos Lee 697 5.3 6.8 32 27
Enc Projected 697 1.4 2.5 20 25
Lud projected 697 6.2 8.1 29 2.07 (!!!)
Carlos Lee 697 5.3 6.8 32 27
by SleepyCA on
Oct 1, 2007 5:39 PM EDT
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Ludwick does not have
by Irishman on
Oct 1, 2007 6:13 PM EDT
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6 years = free agency
by Alxfritz on
Oct 1, 2007 6:28 PM EDT
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I believe
But, admittedly I could be wrong on that.
Regardless, my point remains the same. Ludwick's value on the market, imo, will be closer to 750k - 1M, rather than getting a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract. No GM is going to commit that much time or cash to a guy who only has 637 career major league at-bats.
by Irishman on
Oct 1, 2007 6:58 PM EDT
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I agree w/ your point
The whole minor league free agent situations are ridiculously complicated; I only (think ) I know what I said on anecdotal evidence form a minor/major leaguer who I am friends with and following his life; his situation may be much different from others, so who knows; I may have it messed up.
by Alxfritz on
Oct 1, 2007 7:27 PM EDT
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OK
Whew. I still think we should lock him up as early as possible to keep him from being very expensive down the line- I'd rather give a bad contract to someone having a fluke season (which he isn't, imho, but the chance is there) than pay market value or sign someone like Encarnacion...
by SleepyCA on
Oct 2, 2007 1:01 PM EDT
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There
The funny thing is that I actually agree with you, I'm just saying why it wouldn't be a horrible move. In my opinion, if we're going to add a hitter, I'd rather them be proven. I would like to see Reyes trraded, but I'd rather it be for another young struggling pitcher (such as Ervin Santana).
by aet15 on
Sep 29, 2007 9:14 PM EDT
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If Edmonds is injured again.......
by jillsinmo on
Sep 30, 2007 7:56 AM EDT
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a
by maurerdj on Sep 29, 2007 9:45 PM EDT 0 recs
If the D'backs would do it
That trade would open us up to trade Duncan. I don't see how else the OF is going to work out next season. A Duncan/Edmonds/Ankiel OF is L/L/L. Duncan and Edmonds both sit against lefties. That would give us Ludwick/Ankiel/Schumaker, which is to say the least, uninspiring. Quentin has a pretty heavy upside and is right-handed.
As far as pitching is concerned, it would help if we could sign Shilling on the FA market. Pitchers that are rumored to be available for trades include Carl Pavano, Jose Contreras, Kei Igawa, Matt Morris, Jon Garland, Bronson Arroyo, Nate Robertson, and Joe Blanton. I'd imagine we'll at least kick the tires on Morris, though as much as I love the guy I think his best days are behind him. Arroyo could be interesting. If Adam Dunn leaves Chris Duncan could be pretty attractive to them. The ChiSox are looking for two relievers for Garland, we could probably swing that. Joe Blanton's the best available out of that bunch, but quite frankly I'm scared to trade with the A's.
by stl tyler on Sep 30, 2007 1:12 AM EDT 0 recs
Nate Robertson may be available? Well,
by jillsinmo on Sep 30, 2007 10:35 AM EDT 0 recs
No way
by JI on Sep 30, 2007 10:55 AM EDT 0 recs
Potentially
by stl tyler on
Sep 30, 2007 2:37 PM EDT
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And I'm still in that teeny tiny minority
by jillsinmo on
Sep 30, 2007 9:47 PM EDT
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True
by JI on
Oct 1, 2007 2:37 AM EDT
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Okay, Tony doesn't have the patience...
by jillsinmo on
Oct 1, 2007 5:16 PM EDT
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I'd do it,,,,but
Reyes, Franklin, and Hamilton to the Rangers for:
Padilla and Volozquez
B. Anderson to the Mets for:
M Pelfrey
C. Perez to the Giants for:
J. Sanchez
C. Duncan to the Dodgers for:
Hu's your daddy?
and the beat goes on and on and on...
by Lawless on Sep 30, 2007 4:22 PM EDT 0 recs











