Game 112 Open Thread: August 9, 2007
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after a news-filled day, the baseball game comes almost as an anticlimax. here's a blog post by derrick goold with everything you wanted to know about rick ankiel's return to the big leagues; here's a link to the post-dispatch's coverage of scott spiezio's substance-abuse problem.
tonight's contest marks the completion of cycle #2 of the wainwright-looper-reyes-wells-piniero rotation. in the 9 games of its existence, that rotation has compiled a 3-3 record and 4.39 era, which is pretty good by current standards. more impressive, it has produced 6 outings that lasted at least 6 full innings --- including the last 4 in a row. if pinierio lasts that long tonight, it will mark the first complete rotation cycle of 6-inning starts since --- are you ready? --- april 9 through 15, 2007. that's the only time it has happened all year, and it doesn't really count as a full rotation cycle because only 4 starting pitchers went to the hill --- reyes' turn in the rotation got skipped, and kip wells pitched twice. the last time 5 different cardinal starters lasted 6 innings or more in consecutive starts was --- you won't believe this --- may 29 through june 3, 2006. the starters were marquis, reyes, suppan, ponson, and mulder; carpenter was on the dl. in the last of those 5 games, albert pujols strained his oblique and joined carpenter in sickbay. . . . . be careful out there tonight, albert.
hat tip to the Day by Day Database's starting pitcher log for those factoids.
the brewers are off today, so a win would leave the cardinals 5.5 games out of first place. they haven't been that close to the lead since june 13.
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I'm ecstatic for Rick
Geez, is our pitching that bad? More than a year since 5 different starters have pitched 6 innings in succession? Yuck! Well, the Pads aren't a great offensive team so it's conceivable that we could get 6 from Pineiro tonight, though he's probably on a pitch count. Didn't he just throw about 80 pitches last time out? 5 IP is probably more reasonable.
Is Pineiro still on a pitch count?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
....great thread below!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-frsF_loao
...someone waaay below this commented on Ank being on youtube...he's there and its a decent feed. He's just spankin' that ball out....just a slap.
by cardschinmusic on Aug 10, 2007 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Larry, here is the lineup
Eckstein SS
Ankiel RF
Pujols 1B
Edmonds CF
Rolen 3B
Duncan LF
Molina C
Pineiro P
Kennedy 2B
What will be the reaction to Ankiel tonight by the Busch faithful? 5 minute standing ovation during his first AB?
I'll be giving him one from my living room, even as he goes 0 for 4 with 3 ks.
I'm sure he'll get a nice
I feel odd saying this, but I hope his first at-bat results in a walk.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Ankiel found out about this
Basically he walked into a closed door meeting that was dead silent.
I can imagine the 'What, what'd I do' feeling.
Poor kid.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Just dropping in
by CubFan on Aug 9, 2007 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad you stopped by.
Bleed Cubbie Blue
and
Brew Crew Ball
have the same initials?
+1
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
if the problem is what I've been hearing
by jeff abs on Aug 9, 2007 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather not
by jeff abs on Aug 9, 2007 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernie mentioned something about
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to gossip,
Spiezio
Spezio
I'm trying to think of something more positive than he has even more serious problems that go beyond a substance abuse.
About Ankiel...
What?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Young
by Handsome B Wonderful on Aug 9, 2007 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
Isn't this
Ankiel will wear #24 (given up by Pettini)
Bernie is currently thumping his chest saying he knew something was wrong with Speezer as far back as May. He is copping out about saying 'we tried to ask about it but were shut out'.
Sometimes that guy gets me. He wants to act like he is 'above' being a mouthpiece for the team and loves the 'I told you so'.
Ugh. Go get 'em, Rick.
give him a break...
He cant really snoop around, that is kind of...off limits you know?
people hear rumors, I know people around here do. (see the guy who heard coke)
besides I think many people have noticed him and other Cards partying, and stuff.
I dont see what you have against the guy.
I dislike him
I just think the guy consistently overreaches his boundaries as a reporter.
he's a columnist not a reporter
by Handsome B Wonderful on Aug 9, 2007 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If he stuck to columns
Rumor mongering
I just don't think these sorts of things should be reported on and speculated about until the facts are released. It's no surprise to me that Bernie and TLR have gotten into it this season, if I were TLR I wouldn't want that guy anywhere near a clubhouse already rife with turmoil.
i understand your point...
And he speculated it would be Speez, but didnt mention his problem. (and still hasnt specified unless I missed it).
To be honest I enjoy hearing some of the behind the scenes stuff.
That's fine
And he didn't see the argument. He said he was told about it, which makes me somewhat skeptical in regards. Is there really something there, or is it just being blown out of proportion?
WTF?
Yeah, that makes sense.
by Dexter Westbrook on Aug 9, 2007 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
What I'm Saying
MLBTV
It's not a choice yet
Last year in Chicago
by JSO33 on Aug 9, 2007 7:24 PM EDT reply actions
hjkuyf
I only picked Gary because he said he knew nothing about Scotts problem
NOT COOL
Rumors aren't cool, but...
by JSO33 on Aug 9, 2007 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of ChiCubs....rumour...
by cardschinmusic on Aug 10, 2007 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions
what a bad day to go car shopping
forgive me for a minute, but shouldn't they have called up Ryan instead of Ankiel? reason is, we have a lot of outfielders, but now that speezer's gone, we have only 3 infielders, and 3 bad ones at that. isn't the smarter, wiser baseball move to bring up a guy that can replace speezer? who is an infielder. i'm just has happy as the next person to have Rick back, but unless Juan or LUD is traded, i think we need Ryan more than Rick. at least right now.
either way, get well speezer. go get 'em Rick. we're all pulling for you.
Tony said that Rick Ankiel was going to be with
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Success for Ankiel?
Given his track record, he's probably going to hit somewhere between like Mike Laga and like Russell Branyan - perhaps a LH Ludwick...
Maybe...
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Just for fun
The coach of that team said that Rick was probably the best hitter on that team. He's been regarded as a better hitting prospect than Chris Duncan than most Cardinals minor league officials.
It should be fun.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
According to cbssportsline
Most other sources seem to have Young pitching, not sure what the situation is. Could have been complications in regards to his injury, or could just be a snafu on their part.
Young is warming up
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, I wish
my gf actually had tix (we bought before I started working thurs).
Rick Ankiel will hit 5 homeruns tonight
It's amazing that catch only counted for one out
Wish this game weren't blacked out
Sucks to miss the second plate appearance of the next inning.
am i the only one wiht DTV who's not getting
I'm getting it
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to rain on the parade
by CardFaninVA on Aug 9, 2007 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
Albert looked to swing at ball four
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
OK! ANY ONE WITH DTV EXTRA INNINGS
yes thats the channel thats blacked out
I'm in the great <ahem>
The Cardinals aren't in my region, but somehow both the Rockies and D-Backs are. Go figure.
No issues with DTV here.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man
If they black out here because of what you said
Hopefully they'll get you squared away soon...
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
DTV says
I'm in Eastern Ohio
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI
so big sigh of relief. Ohio is not, nor will it probably ever been in the Cards home market. the DTV operator had no idea what she was talking about.
That Bud Selig sure is a great businessman
Why, making it LESS available is a PERFECT solution!
i've been watching
Joel Pineiro
It's ridiculous
How about Ensberg thinking that was a foul ball out of play and Albert catches it without even moving?
This is the first time I've actually watched Pineiro pitch. His curveball is very good.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Pineiro
He described him as a more consistent version of Gil Meche, which is damning with faint praise.
Juuuuust missed there Scotty
Jesus
Can you fault Rolen for jumping on that pitch?
Next innings
Kennedy
Eckstein
Roy Hobbs
I smell 3-run dinger.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not watching, I'm on Gameday
3-run homerun? You think Kennedy and Eckstein are both getting out? (Sorry, had to jump on the Ankiel/Bill Brasky/Chuck Norris bandwagon)
When did we become a flyball organization?
A little off-topic...
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God I didn't get one
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know off-hand
Whitey is the only one that comes to mind.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Tino where 24?
Joe Pettini gave up 24 for Ank.
Is Rick still using a pitcher's glove?
How'd his strikeout look?
Can't fault him too much for that.
Yeah, that's basically right
Borderline high
Tough call.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That pitch has got Duncan and Edmonds out
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
But
Seems like he used to be able to turn on that pitch.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
2 AB's in
His walk rate
3 walks in 85 AB in April, 5/77 in May, 6/99 in June, 10/105 in July, 1/23 in August. I know 1/23 is low, but that's a low enough AB number that the ratio changes dramatically with just one walk.
Empirically, he's looked a lot more patient since right before the All-Star Break.
HA! NOW IT's BACK ON
GO CARDINALS
Chris Young is throwing a NO HITTER
by TriplePlay on Aug 9, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
It worked....
by TriplePlay on Aug 9, 2007 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm pretty sure that
Is there any way...
If
40-Year-Old Virgin... Great movie.
And now
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
YADDA!!
Of course, pitching wise
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
2 things working in this game
- we've won every game against the Pads in which we've scored
- we've only scored in one inning in each of those games
by CardFaninVA on Aug 9, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Percival get the save?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
how is Young so successful
See how high he sticks his glove up there?
yes but every pitch is 85-89 up in the zone
Nope, Some pitchers can do this
mind bullets
So, there's a debate amongst my circle as to Eck's
- 1. Mighty Mouse
- 2. Modest Mouse
Which one should I use when talking about him?
How about Mini-Mouse?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
what happend to "Just Enough"?
if not that, go with modest. he hasn't been mighty sence last october.
i believe the proper is
i'd lean towards micky this year.
Rick looked really anxious there
It looks like he's seen nothing but fastballs
He had to swing at that last pitch
Young blew it by him. I'll give him some credit for that.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Those first two hacks did not look encouraging,
I think we should call ankiels new call up
Just want to get it out there
Pull him now.
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thing we've scored that run
Of course, I have a feeling he'll be back out there anyway.
Yeah
It'd be nice
Pujols and Edwards didn't help make that happen.
wasnt he ok
Thank you, Joel Pineiro
Thanks to Larry for pointing out how long it's been.
Could almost be sustainable in Petco
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Young is a great fit for that park.....he's like
3% is exceptionally low
What's the over/under
your giving the WWL WAY too much credit
Scotty looks lost up there
Lost?
Ball to the wall
Hit
10 pitch AB
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, i'm just talking about that last at bat
Oh yeah
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
that's cool. it's all good
sportsline
1-0
Check out Ankiel's Wikipedia entry
Don't think it was one game
Tonight Al has made references
what happened to Pineiro's pitch count
Kennedy almost
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
The Padres make us look like we have a legit
YADDA trying to bunt
Izzy likely out
by CardFaninVA on Aug 9, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Good AB Duncan!
Gameday
How did that happen?
trying to stretch single into a double
YADDA
that was awesome.
Not as awesome as the tomahawk
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Deja vu
Young is a good example of a pitcher
Really tall guy s like him have serious
see? i knew Young wasn't that good of a pitcher
wild pitches that score a run are the awesome.
btw, 6-1 flubs out in colorado. i think lillypad is pitching for the wee little bears.
Indians - Sox game
Ahh....to be the subject of jokes
by Allez31 on Aug 9, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Is it a "productive" out
by CardFaninVA on Aug 9, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
that will make SportsCenter liam!
"He stayed with it . . .
by Nelson Brockabrella on Aug 9, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly what everyone thought
by Allez31 on Aug 9, 2007 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
by CardFaninVA on Aug 9, 2007 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not going to lie
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
me to brother
Holy shit TLR
by TriplePlay on Aug 9, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
TLR Reaction
by Dexter Westbrook on Aug 10, 2007 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
OMFG
I DON'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW!
by Dexter Westbrook on Aug 10, 2007 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, WOW!!!
What a moment...
by PujolsFor President on Aug 9, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
oh the power of Ankiel
Juan, i think you just lost your starting job.
in all fairness...
by TriplePlay on Aug 9, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
boo
Ugh
i would also be OK with
7/24-8/8
Enc 327/377/347/724
Not to mention Jimmy will slide.
over that same period
over the period 6/25-8/8 he is:
.250/.330/.511 = .841 OPS
over the period 5/25-8/8 he is:
.259/.318/.547 = .860 OPS
and these arbitrary dates are all negatively cherry-picked due to the fact that he was 0-7 in the 2 days before tonight, and tonight doesn't show up yet...
You couldn't have scripted that any better!
I'm so happy I saw his last 3-run jack in person just 2 days ago.. I feel priviliged.
by cloistermaximus on Aug 9, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Just wanted to say high
The computer wasn't even on
I bet if you asked him, his 3rd career MLB home run was a heck of a lot better than his first.
wow
That's gotta be one of the best homers i've ever seen.
by redbird2006in on Aug 9, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
VOTE ANKIEL FOR PRESIDENT!
When was the last time Tony was that happy?
this is a GREAT thing for this team maybe this will light a fire under this team
GO CARDINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FSN Pittsburgh
by Allez31 on Aug 9, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
Steve Blass
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to say
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont forget my guy Skip Schumaker
Ryan at SS
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually...
Pinch-hit me . . .
by Nelson Brockabrella on Aug 9, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Will is going to go nuts over at Deadspin
this rocks. i alomst dont care what happens for the rest of the season. getting to see that made my year. every thing else is just gravy.
He's There!!
by hannah_in_va on Aug 9, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Let us not hope for that again
Anyone think that ESPN will show TLR
by faninexile on Aug 9, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
web gem, dude
Bi polar cards
They just need a higher level of difficulty
That being said, they just keep running into crappy teams on unreal hot streaks and good teams when they are at their worst. That simple.
by cloistermaximus on Aug 9, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
stat guys...
without looking it seems afterany huge day like 10 run sunday monday was a flop...itd be interesting to see the stats on that
Al said "Let's not get carried away..."
I think you just contradicted yourself. Sure, we are all overly giddy about a 28 year old minor leaguer hitting a 3-run HR, but that guy just hit an
Off-speed pitch
Away
One handed
Over the wall
Sorry Al, I don't care if it was Yadier Molina, it was still damn impressive. That isn't a 'pitch to handle'.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
al sounds like he has been drinking in the booth
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 9, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Relax dude
I think
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
AND THAT'S A WINNER!!!!
AWESOME GAME. SIMPLY AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
more than 30 minutes later, i still got goosebumps. this day rocks.
great series win gents. great series win!
AND they retire Barrett to end the game!
Rick "Cortisone" Ankiel
by Nelson Brockabrella on Aug 9, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
Mood turnaround translate into season turnaround?
Mike postgame: "And this is the Mercy Health Care Play of the Game. . . ."
John Rooney during long replay, just after the home run call: "That'll put some life in the ballclub, Mike!"
Another turning point for the 2007 season, and maybe this one will stick. Let's roll through the Dodgers, then see Rick bomb the Brewers and Cubs to make it all official!
by Nelson Brockabrella on Aug 9, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
"Star of the Game" interview
by Nelson Brockabrella on Aug 9, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
here come the cardinals...
(oh, for an mp3 of that call)
im just really depressed
Someone slap me
i second that
what a night.
I will be the first to say
GO CARDINALS!!!!!!!!!!
Best game of the year.Period.
Might as well pass him through waivers
lets let
Not at all
sportscenter
Rick By God Ankiel
Watching the postgame presser on ESPNews
Anyone else see this?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 9, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
Yep
by player2bnamedl8r on Aug 9, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
and aluded
i broke down and bought mlb.tv for this game
He also mentioned
Other than winning the Series last year I have never seen Tony so emotional/happy as he was tonight.
Ricky Baby
avoid the let down
Stick vs no-stick
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2007 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
thats cool
think its a great time to ebay my rick ankiel auto ball? jk
just think if he hits the last month or so..add to the story..
by punchinjudy on Aug 10, 2007 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It'll be interesting to see the fate of JEd
by MdRedbirdFreak on Aug 10, 2007 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
You Do?
Eck (RH)
Ankiel (LH)
Pujols (RH)
Jimmy Ballgame (LH)
Rolen (RH)
Dunc (LH)
Yadi (RH)
Pitcher
Kennedy (LH)
... nothing screams Tony like to good ole RH/LH rotation.
Tivo'd the game while I was working
Wow. When Rick muscled that ball over the wall, I was speechless. This game will be remembered for a LONG damn time.
Not to be forgotten, however, is Piñiero's terrific start. 7.0 IP, 4 H, 0 BB, 4 SO, 0 ER, 90 pitches, 60 strikes!
Gotta like that, too.
All in all, an incredibly uplifting game.
Was at the game
Rick- kudos, man. The whole crowd went crazy every at bat, and went super-duper crazy when he hit the homer. I've never cheered so hard at a home run before.
Also, girlfriend and I were on the kisscam. She was thrilled at that- bonus points for me.
by rudie on Aug 10, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions
Was there too
(The three clues were "9-time Gold Glove winner," "2-time Cy Young winner," and "Inducted to the HOF in 1981"...)
No pressure Rick
no pressure. . . . .
they finally arrested Al Capone
I pay attention to posts and comments about Juan Encarnacion... because he is the one Cardinal player that turns my stomach more than any other (from the very beginning.)
And I am very bemused (yes, BEmused, not Amused) at any tie-in which implies that Juan will be released (or traded, or whatever) because of the call up, future role, and (we hope) continued success of Rick Ankiel.
Lest I be misunderstood: I am NOT anti-Ankiel, (the exact opposite... have been arguing for his call-up for weeks) and I DO (desperately) want to see Juan's enigmatic carcass strapped to a rocket ship and sent to the moon.
It may not even happen still (Juan being booted out), but if it does, I hate it that they waited for a "reason."
by CurtFlood on Aug 10, 2007 2:10 AM EDT reply actions
Man oh man
"And for at least one night, it was OK to cry in baseball.
In a word, amazing. It is amazing the organization stuck with him, but it's amazing he decided to stick with the game that brought him so much ridicule.
When they announced Ankiel was starting in right field and batting second, the crowd erupted in applause. When he stepped up to plate in the bottom of the first inning, he received a standing ovation. Each at bat he received a welcome round of applause.
The home run ... wow. As soon as he hit it, everyone stood on their feet. It wasn't a no-doubter, but everyone knew it was close. When the ball carried the wall, Ankiel gave a small fist pump as he rounded first base. The cheer was one of the loudest cheers I've heard in a baseball game. When he crossed home plate and walked into the dugout, Ankiel buried his head in his hands. If he wasn't crying, he should have been.
No one cared that Pujols was at the plate, or that he took the next pitch for a ball. All eyes were on the dugout. Ankiel appeased the crowd by coming out quickly and tipping his cap.
What a wonderful night."
Doubled. Cheers.
Lovely
That was fucking AWESOME!
And it was. Glad the beauty of the moment wasn't lost on other observers.
I think it was actually made better
Let's hope that he can keep it up.
Just thought
Were it up to me, I'd just post this picture.
Thankfully, it's not up to me.





















