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i'm gonna have to leave it to others to capture the magic of the ankiel moment. when i sat down just now to write about it, here's how i began:
it seemed like he launched every one of those mistakes over the fence last night --- and maybe some other ones that had nothing to do with him. the cardinals' stand-pat off-season? thwack! the whole steroid era, encapsulated two nights ago by another type of homer --- fraught and troubled --- in san francisco? tock! i bet bud selig would have been proud to witness the homer at busch iii last night; i bet he even would have smiled and applauded . . . .
not a terrible start. but when i read back over the passage, i found it totally unconvincing. i'm just bullshitting, i realized; this is dishonest. it's not how i actually feel. the truth is, i didn't get swept up in the joy last night. it's not that i failed to recognize how special the moment was; i did, intellectually. when he came up, i even interrupted what i was doing (eating ice cream with my kids) to step into the other room and listen to the call. "huge at-bat," i thought; "he needs to come through." of course, it really wasn't such a huge at-bat in game terms --- the cardinals had already scored their insurance run and led 2-0 with 6 outs to go; if he'd stranded the runners, their win expectancy still would have stood above 80 percent. so for any other hitter, it wouldn't have meant that much either way. but for this guy, a lot seemed to ride on the result.
to have him deliver so heroically. . . . . well, maybe the heroic years of my life are over. or maybe i just never got my emotions wrapped up in the ankiel fable, not from the beginning. for those who did, i'm not knocking either you or the fable; on the contrary, i feel very self-conscious about it, like there must be something wrong with me because i don't share the R.A. Experience. erik wrote a really nice post this weekend that captured why this guy generates such deep passion --- "I'm rooting for Ankiel," he wrote, "because I'm rooting for myself." i think erik really nailed it; i think that's exactly how a lot of people feel. but i don't. for whatever reason, i just never bonded with ankiel that way. and that's probably why the tidal wave of ecstasy unleashed by last night's homer --- a surge so intense that even la russa shed his mask and exulted like a winning "price is right" contestant --- felt to me more like a gentle swell in the sea. i got a solid lift out of it, no question. i felt satisfied that a young player passed a big test; happy that a troubled man got to hear the cheers for which he'd waited so long and labored so hard; grateful that a season so fractured by discontent, frustration, and heartbreak finally had a signature feel-good event.
but i did not feel it was a moment of redemption, at least not in any universal sense. personal redemption for ankiel? absolutely; that dude fought through a lot and never gave up; he earned his shot and his moment of triumph. but the rest of the stuff at the end of my abortive post --- the stuff about absolving front-office mistakes and the errant ways of a whole generation of players? uh uh. once i laid it out there, it felt totally wrong. it felt like i shouldn't be dumping that baggage onto ankiel, who already has such a plentiful load to tote. he's not responsible for rescuing the cardinals from 3d-place purgatory or saving baseball from its steroidal sins ---- nor, for that matter, is he charged with alleviating whatever guilt la russa carries over the wreck of ankiel's pitching career, or comforting a clubhouse bruised by yet another personal blow (ie, spiezio's substance-abuse problem). this guy's already been through all that. those are not his problems to solve.
his job is simply to become a good big-league player. if we can look back in 10 years and say he achieved that, i'll share the sense of joy then; i'll choke up, i'll get chills. he's had 4 at-bats in his new life as an outfielder; may he have 4,000 more, and enough special moments like last night's to make it worth all the trouble.
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I like a good Redemption Story
Embarrased curtain call, nice tip of the cap to appreciative fans as he took the field in the eighth. I'll take all the positive things I can this year.
by Schnake on Aug 10, 2007 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's hard for me to imagine
I think we all recognize that he may not turn out to be an every day player. But last night was about closure. And it was awesome.
by paCardsFan on Aug 10, 2007 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i just knew
by lboros on Aug 10, 2007 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well sure
Certainly everyone has their own feelings. No one would expect you to feel differently than you do. The post was just a bit of a downer.
But hey, I'm still excited. In a dismal season (to this point) I got a memory that will stick for along time.
by paCardsFan on Aug 10, 2007 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the goal was to express myself honestly
by lboros on Aug 10, 2007 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's cool.
by paCardsFan on Aug 10, 2007 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered
I cannot imagine what it would be like to have the sort of God-given talent to allow you to do what Rick has done. The guy could probably go to Rams training camp and make the team as a special teamer at the very least.
To me, that's what this all comes down to: Seeing an incredibly talented athlete battle his demons and , in the end, succeed. And he's on our side. Yeah, it's just one game - but there's something special about this guy. And I'll always be rooting for him.
by silent_bob on Aug 10, 2007 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you did a good job of doing it
by PujolsFan4Life5 on Aug 10, 2007 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
by rockin redbird on Aug 10, 2007 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were honest
I guess the best way to may equate it for you, Larry, is if Anthony Reyes...after the great debut against the Brewers, after the 1 hitter in Chicago went into the NLCS and WS starts and started throwing the ball into CF. Completely lost whatever greatness he had as a pitcher because he couldn't find homeplate.
Then, 6 years from now, he works his way through the Cardinals organization as a SS with good range, decent speed, a great arm but an undisciplined yet powerful bat.
I dunno, it's hard even writing that cause honestly...who would believe it? That's the feeling I get about Ankiel. This is Disney movie stuff. Who knows where the rest of the season goes? Hell, they wrote a movie about a football player who scored 1 TD as an Eagle. A guy who made one tackle as a Fighting Irish.
I've always thought Rick looked like a bit of a prick on the diamond. A sneer, never a smile. Scott Rolen but with more of an angry look. When he raised his hand rounding first and couldn't hide the huge smile on his face while in the dugout, Rick Ankiel's attitude seemed to finally match his talent level.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2007 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You hit the nail on the head
by Zubin on Aug 10, 2007 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good on You
by alberich on Aug 10, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Call Larry
Big Mac 62, 9th inning comeback versus Cincy (something like a 9-3 Cincy lead that ended 10-9 Cards), Pujols 3 HR Easter last year, Wrigley field comeback from 04, Tatis 2 GS in one inning, Bennett's GS versus the Cubs last season. While the story isn't there behind those they will probably all be considered the same way in the books.
For me the story of Ankiel is more then just one homerun, if he is able to play even a few full seasons as a position player then it will be as good of a story as Musial's conversion (which I read for the first time yesterday, still catching up on the old time lore) and it will be a great accomplishment. I say again that it was a good call to not open your story that way this morning Larry.
by StLHugo on Aug 10, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm just pulling for the guy
I'd still be rooting for a guy like him who played for, say, Seattle, but not the way I'm rooting for Rick Ankiel of the Cardinals.
I've followed the guy since he was drafted, since he broke in as a 19-year-old with that heat and that ridiculous curveball, through his rookie season when he just missed 200 Ks in 175ip, and then his subsequent meltdown.
To try to come back as a pitcher, and then to have injuries that force you out for an entire year are bad enough; but then to try to comeback as a hitter, to have success in the minors and then miss another full season with injuries, and then STILL make it back, well, let's just say you can count me among those who cheered like crazy for him when he hit that homer.
by salvomania on Aug 10, 2007 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are a few moments that transcend the game
by boilertiger on Aug 10, 2007 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more.
by TriplePlay on Aug 10, 2007 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why I was excited
by bdief on Aug 10, 2007 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good post Larry...
But.
The Ankiel HR. It's his third career and probably not even the most important in the Cardinals season. There's so many reasons I enjoyed it more. But I have to respect the greater perspective your post brings...Is he gonna stick? Is this the end of his Oddyssey and the beginning of a better story, or just another tantalizing gaze at such a talented young man who is gonna break apart?
Nobody knows, but the fourth AB showed us he has a puncher's chance.
by joeyart on Aug 10, 2007 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I jump in with joeyart
And also because I wanted to add one thing to the Ankiel story, and j. above was the first one I saw mention it.
I would wager that most posters HERE know more Ankiel history, but around the country they are acting like it is the first home run he ever hit.
Maybe my memory is faulty, but when he was a pitcher he was, even then, regarded as a good hitter (the kind who even pinch hit a few times). I was surprised, in fact, that his career batting average is only .209. *He did hit .250 - including his two other dingers - the year he was a full time starter.
Last night really IS a feel-good story, but -- and maybe I am being parochial -- I feel that it is mostly a CARDINAL feel-good story.
For some reason I have some queases about the national attention (relating) that has been going on.
by CurtFlood on Aug 10, 2007 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long untill he is just another outfielder?
Don't get me wrong, this is alll I have been able to think about since yesterday afternoon. Last night was the first game I have been really excited to watch since the opener. I felt all the emotion of the moment after his HR. My wife has been instructed not to erase the game from TiVo under penalty of death.
But when do we start treating him like Ludwick?
by Stanfan6 on Aug 10, 2007 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to feel more blase about Ankiel
One could argue that Ankiel hasn't been worth the trouble. He blew up as a pitcher, and the Cardinals kept him on, paid him well, gave him a roster spot and hundreds of ABs, for what? For the remote possibility that he might remake himself as an outfielder.
At the beginning of this experiment, I thought the Cardinals were wasting resources on the guy, giving him chances that should go to other prospects, because of the collective guilt of TLR and the organization for how Ankiel had been handled. All this so that we could have a slightly better version of Ryan Ludwick.
I still believe that, when all is said and done, the Ankiel comeback will prove to be more a story of tragedy and wasted talent than redemption.
But last night, watching that ball go into the stands -- watching TLR, of all people, go more bonkers than he did when we won the World Series -- affected me viscerally, in a way I cannot explain.
TLR said after the game that baseball is a game in which there is often no justice, and you don't usually get what you deserve. In Ankiel's case, on one glorious night, there was a bit of both justice and deservedness.
by Dexter Westbrook on Aug 10, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Dexter,
After this season, a fail to see much that happens in sports as a tragedy.
To me, wasted talent is when a phenom gets into drugs, is to lazy to work, or simply doesn't care. Rick, however, has busted his tail doing what he loves for the past 7 years. It has not turned out as planned, but don't see anything w/ him as a waste.
by toris34 on Aug 10, 2007 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken
I didn't mean to imply that Ankiel has been a slacker. My point was that Ankiel's transcendent talent was as a pitcher, and that talent, for a multitude of reasons, isn't being used and never will be.
by Dexter Westbrook on Aug 10, 2007 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's only fair to be
by MdRedbirdFreak on Aug 10, 2007 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potential can not be lost...
by Red Blazer on Aug 10, 2007 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel Postgame interview
by Jtip20 on Aug 10, 2007 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda off topic but...
by El Schweenador on Aug 10, 2007 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No structural damage in the wrist
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2007 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I believe the Cubs when they say
by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2007 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me either
Molina was batting .273 before the injury, went a month after returning hitting .213 and now has spent the last 10 games batting .357. I wouldn't be suprised in the least to see him finish the season with his BA around .280.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2007 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pineiro
by SprfldCards on Aug 10, 2007 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crossing fingers while knocking on wood
by vince eating tarp on Aug 10, 2007 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Dang it, my hope is coming back."
by john vb on Aug 10, 2007 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
re-worded
by john vb on Aug 10, 2007 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that analogy
by jeff abs on Aug 10, 2007 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep--
by rockin redbird on Aug 10, 2007 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is frustrating
One week ago the Cards failed to jump on a similar chance. Here it comes again. What will the Cards do this time.
by JMedwick on Aug 10, 2007 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry...
by glennrwordman on Aug 10, 2007 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just love
In all fairness, he did back off. I think it's a feel-good moment in a season with a whole lot of feel-bad moments, but not a "top 5 all-time Cardinals history" moment.
TSF
by TedSimmonsFan on Aug 10, 2007 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The other side...
However, I see at least part of the fascination, nah, the obsession, with Rick as direct result of this season's failures. The hue and cry to bring him up and give him a shot is directly proportional to the number of games the Cardinals fell out of the race. Then, it became a cult of Rick, that he would be the savior that bounces us back into contention.
If there were a team in the thick of a playoff race, or somewhere near the top and playing good baseball. Or at least a team in it and that didn't feature re-treads, cast asides, pet projects, and wingannaprayers, would the focus be so tremendously on Rick Ankiel? Probably, because he's more than a MiLBer that deserves a shot, he's a Cardinal that needs a second chance.
Now, I fear, that Rick is up the call will be to bring up Colby Rasmus.
by Brock20 on Aug 10, 2007 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What made me giddy...
Not to rain on anybody's parade, but faggedaboud those "Young Musial" comparions... "The Man" pitched and played the outfield in the Cards' low minors, becoming a full-time position player after hurting his arm late in the 1940 season. In 1941, Musial started the season at Class "C" Springfield... and finished it in "The Show" with the Cardinals!!! He did this at the age of 20!!!
So, by the time Musial was Ankiel's age now, he'd been a big-leaguer for seven years (minus service time). I'm not knocking Rick... but there's only one "Stan The Man"!
by The Ol Goaler on Aug 10, 2007 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lboros
All that being said, between LaRussa's reaction, the number of intelligent and thoughtful comments here today, and this lengthy post... I'm intently rooting for more success for Rick, but the emotional investment just isn't there.
by _pistol_ on Aug 10, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A triumph
He could've quit and almost did. Almost anyone else would have but it seems that he just loves playing the game. He is what we all wish we could be -- living the dream that we lived when we were 8 years old. He's much more mature -- older, married, wiser -- but, in many ways, he's still 8 years old. Maybe I shouldn't speak for anybody else, but as we all get older and realize we can't turn back the clock to those days when we were just out playing the game that we loved, we see Ankiel doing just that.
We're living vicariously through Rick. I hope he has 4000 more AB's but, if he doesn't, or if he only turns into a 4th OF and pinch-hitter, he has triumphed over everyone who said that he couldn't. And, make no mistake, almost everyone said that he couldn't. He had become a laughingstock to some and someone pitied by others. Now, he's living his dream and we're all living it with him. He's given us all a memory (and himself one, too) that we'll take with us for a very long time.
Wouldn't we all give damned near anything to have a moment like Rick did last night? He'll continue to live his dream until he can't any longer but, when it's all over, whatever the BA, however many homers or K's -- it'll be a triumph. He has persevered and triumphed and the best part is, his dream isn't over with yet.
by chuckb on Aug 10, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bought an NES on ebay
by Alxfritz on Aug 10, 2007 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just think
that said, here's hoping he does go on to be successful. i'm trying to be realistic, not totally expecting him to set the world on fire. in my real expectations, i expect him to hit .260/.305/.500 going forward. that's still better then what we're getting out of more then most of the regular lineup. and it's also a darn fun story to follow.
by erik on Aug 10, 2007 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i should say
by erik on Aug 10, 2007 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bittersweet...
However, watching him hit was nothing compared to watching him pitch.
I remember sitting 11 rows behind homeplate (i had pictures of someone in the Cards front office with a goat...I'm not rich) and watching Ankiel against (ironically) the Padres.
He threw four or five pitches to Tony Gwynn. Gwynn never looked comfortable as he looked at one strike, fouled two off (one 93 mph fastball the opposite way, one 67 mph curve into the first base dugout).
He swung and missed at a curve and struck out. What was more amazing is I rememeber almost falling out of my chair waiting for that curve to get to home plate. I've never seen that in any other pitcher. The ability to change speeds so dramatically.
It was a thing of beauty.
I doubt we'll ever have those kinds of feelings with Ankiel hitting. I still miss that, even though he's "back."
by cardsfansc72 on Aug 10, 2007 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eric's Post
I can still remember sitting in the dorm w/ my 2 best friends watching him a few times and we were wow'd w/ his talent.
I remember getting home from class in time to see the BotB w/ a big lead but Ankiel already being out of the game.
I remember watching him stuggle the following spring and then beginning to know it was over for him.
I remember him pitching pretty well when called up in late 2004 and thinking it wasn't over, until the next spring when he told us he was done.
I (will always) remember the 3 run bomb he hit in his first game back in the bigs in 2007.
Say what you want about his struggles and collapse, but this kid, turned young man, has simply refused to give up on his dream
by toris34 on Aug 10, 2007 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Izzy for Comeback Player of the Year
by Yadier on Aug 10, 2007 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blog Interrupted
But where you were headed had nothing to do with last night's "moment with young Musial."
You're a non-emotional stats guy but even you were drawn into the moment.
You have to admit, there is something magical about Ankiel. I mean, you interrupted ice cream to watch the moment.
Why have we all been hanging on to this "lost season." Maybe we stayed for "the moment" and the promise that it gives for the future. And could the future be October. Rick Ankiel, Brendan Ryan, Skip Schumaker, Joel Piniero, and Ryan Ludwick have all given us great moments. Maybe it's not over. Maybe they will provide the boost that we neeed. It may not arrive until next year, but deep down inside, something tells me that Rick Ankiel is the catalyst and the moment is just the beginning.
by Louisville Slugger on Aug 10, 2007 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"non-emotional stats guy"??
by lindqja on Aug 10, 2007 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another aspect of this
Remember that? Those were exciting times! (But the intervening years have been pretty cool too.)
by MdRedbirdFreak on Aug 10, 2007 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We almost had Matt Morris
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2007 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice quote from Brocail from espn story
"I pitched the report," Brocail said. "I have no idea how he hit that ball. It's good to see the kid back, though.
"You know, he wasn't too bad of a pitcher," Brocail added.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Aug 10, 2007 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing is...
At this point in the season, why can't we just enjoy the good days? Please leave the negativity for another day. It seems the morning after this week's 3 wins, VEBs (and all the Cards boards)have been somewhat negative. Haven't we all had enough of that this season?
The homerun last night was awesome. I yelled. My girlfriend practically fell off the couch. It was absolutely the best feeling I have had this entire season.
Also, isn't it great to see the minor leaguers get a shot at the bigs?
by sweet number 5 on Aug 10, 2007 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
That's just the bad pun side of me talking though, I suppose.
by dontEATnachos on Aug 10, 2007 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pictures
by mikedallas23 on Aug 10, 2007 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I'm just bullshitting"
If only other writers and politicians has more frequent moments of self awareness, honesty and correction.
Thank you
Your post (in its entirety) was, as usual, of solid mental value
by Hinkster on Aug 10, 2007 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel is back in the fold
Now, here is the real question that needs to be asked. Will management get off their asses and make some kind of waiver deal for JuanEnc?
Four scenarios that I can possibly see.
- Waiver deal to strengthen the club for the remainder of this season to make a playoff run.
- Waiver deal to strengthen the club for the future.
- Waiver deal for a straight up salary dump.
- Sit on their ass, do nothing and hash over the JuanEnc vs. Ankiel for the rest of this season and next.
by Handsome Jimmy on Aug 10, 2007 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bringing out the best in ourselves and each other
Ankiel's return last night was a mass tribute to the human spirit that keeps us striving to reach our potential even in the face of our setbacks and failures. Once we've tasted failure and disappointment, the taste of success is infinitely sweeter, because our redemption compels us to fully appreciate how special the moment is, not only for the euphoria of the moment but for the affirmation of the spirit that keeps us alive, that makes us care, that replaces the discouragement, emptiness and ennui we fall prey to, at times, with the realization that we really do care, even when we deny it, that what we do with our lives really does matter to us, deeply and profoundly, and among those with whom we share a bond of affiliation or affection, we care about each other in the same way.
What else is life for if not to bring out the best in ourselves and each other?
by CardsWin on Aug 10, 2007 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks to all above
clear to me that ankiel joins anthony reyes as a juicy VEB totem --- however he makes us feel, he makes most of us feel something.
by lboros on Aug 10, 2007 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh, what a spoiler
What annoys me are the folks who insist that a guy with below-average stuff is some kind of phenom.
by Dexter Westbrook on Aug 10, 2007 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two ideas/feelings struck me
- the remarkable nature of the event. redemptive or not (certainly well-discussed in previous posts), the nearly unbelievable nature of ra's entire story/journey. it's virtually indescribable.
- the juxtaposition (as suggested in joyart's post above) between the national ambivalence around bonds' 'achievement' and the genuine, nearly unabashed joy people felt around rick's phenomenal story. just consider the difference in reactions you may have witnessed. uncertainty, if not confusion regarding how we feel about bonds vs. different degrees of feeling good about ankiel.
by sdesserman on Aug 10, 2007 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The best in himself? Or the boost in his 'roids?
by CardsWin on Aug 10, 2007 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw Ankiel in Portland Wednesday afternoon.
by redlou on Aug 10, 2007 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry
I guess maybe some of us have lost sight of the fact that this is entertainment. Or, maybe your measure of entertainment is different than mine. I suppose that is a possibility. Hmmm. Maybe some of us just aren't entertained unless we're in first place or the team's OPS is .850.
Anyhoo, how can we be more entertained than we were last night?! I mean, DUDE!
When my friends and I heard that Ank was getting called up yesterday, I said that alone is success. It really didn't matter to me what he did after he got here. How many people in this world can go through injury, mental meltdown, and family issues, and still manage to make it to the major leagues twice?!
If all that stuff had happened to me after the wild pitches in the playoffs, you would have seen my name in the police blotter eventually. I don't think I would have the mental fortitude to withstand it. But Rick did, by God.
In many ways, this is exponentially better than what happened to Musial. At least Stan could blame injury for his failure as a pitcher. Rick had nobody to blame but Rick (personally, I have held LaRussa responsible for Rick's oddesey but that's a different story). I mean, he got on the biggest stage of his LIFE, and COMPLETELY FELL APART!
Rick, what a great start, and I will echo Larry on this one. May you have 4000 more plate appearances just like last night.
As for what this means for the team, who cares right now? If we lost last night's game 31-5, I still would have been completely entertained and extatic for Rick.
I was at the game when McGwire hit 62. It was a neat moment. This tops it by a TON.
by Eckstreem on Aug 10, 2007 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A disney movie in a year of horror films
Of course the reality is what Rick does for the rest of his career is yet to be told, and it may not end like the final scenes of a Disney movie.
But for one night in the heat of August we as fans, Rick and Tony and alot of his teammates got to live out that feel good Disney movie in a year where where it has seemed like one bad horror flick after another.
by KYCards on Aug 10, 2007 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me a little of...
by tinstl on Aug 10, 2007 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not just a feel-good baseball story...
As a, until recently anyway, jaded and disinterested White Sox fan, she was content to catch the score on ESPN's bottom-line and really not too concerned if she didn't.
When he was announced for his first at bat, her "Who's that?" launched me on one of my story-for-the-ages baseball tales. His quick rise, his even quicker descent, his second chance, his transformation, and last night...his pinnacle.
And when he hit his homerun, even she -- who in her life has paid attention to baseball just enough to see her White Sox sweep in 2005 and her adopted-out-of-love-for-boyfriend Cardinals do it in 2006 (and, although she won't admit, the team that now holds her loyalty) -- even she was impressed to the point of admiration. And not so much with the feat, but the fact that he worked (and I stress 'worked) so stubbornly for the chance to achieve it.
For lifelong Cardinals fans like myself and most of you here, this story is obviously amazing. But to see how it translates to, not only fans of other teams, but to those who really have no vested interest in or love of this game...when put in those terms, it's extraordinary.
respectfully submitted, barbeauski.
by TheDuke32 on Aug 10, 2007 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was there and won't forget it any time soon
by theguuch99 on Aug 10, 2007 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The other side of the coin
by BKKCard on Aug 10, 2007 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Make that
by BKKCard on Aug 10, 2007 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you...
by Timbo02 on Aug 10, 2007 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An apt quote
Many of us (and Tony) feel such joy for Rick because we have also felt the sympathetic pains of witnessing his painful undoing.
Here's the whole passage. See if you don't agree:
Then a woman said, "Speak to us of Joy and Sorrow."And he answered: Your joy is your sorrow unmasked. And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.
And how else can it be?
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain. Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven?
And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?
When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.
When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.
Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater."
But I say unto you, they are inseparable. Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.
Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy. Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced. When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.
- Kahlil Gibran
I think that perfectly sums up why many of us have so much emotionally vested in Mr. Ankiel.
by Mr Clean on Aug 10, 2007 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rumor has it that Spiezio....
by theguuch99 on Aug 10, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doubt it
by TriplePlay on Aug 10, 2007 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a place for these rumors
by liam on Aug 10, 2007 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel's Homer on YouTube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B-frsF_loao
by PujolsFor President on Aug 10, 2007 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoops...
by PujolsFor President on Aug 10, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st time I saw it
by bukowski on Aug 10, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Ankiel thing is generational
Instead, what we've seen has been a series of stories involving heroes and villians, all flawed and imperfect. The history of the Cardinals past 1985 has been a series of morality plays, as you have guys like Ozzie and McGwire building themselves up to untold heights only to find their legacies diminished and tarnished afterward--Ozzie for the pride of his accomplishment, Big Mac for the way he did what he did, and then later shirked from the consequences.
And then, on the other hand, you have guys like Willie McGee and Matt Morris, who continually struggled to live up to their promise, and come through in ways that were often unexpected, and seemed to play the game with joy and verve.
And then you came to Rick Ankiel, who would seem to be the symbol of this sojourn of promises just barely not kept--he seems to be a parefect example of the player that had his legend precede him, and rose to dizzying heights, only to fall.
Only then he got back up again.
The World Series win expelled the curse of just-close-enough failure experienced by my generation, but seeing the most disappointing failure of the era come back and succeed...
well, that did, too.
Those with more perspective, who have seen the team succeed more, probably don't see it this way, but I kind of do.
by Valatan on Aug 10, 2007 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Val you hit the nail on the head
by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2007 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel's
"I went down hard...
Like Billy The Kid
Yes I went down hard...
Like Billy The Kid
I went down hard...
Yeah, but I got up again."
by rockin redbird on Aug 10, 2007 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the generational sweet spot
I love this story. I was so disappointed to see a prospect with such talent and promise as Ankiel wash out.
Then to see him perservere, not just in learning to play, but through multiple injuries and develop into a power threat. It's been great to follow.
And now to see him back in the big leagues. And to see the sheer joy on what have typically been some pretty morose faces in the dugout this year, made for a great scene.
I'm not sure what kind of prospect Ankiel is at this point, but it's a fun story to watch in a pretty dreary season.
by BozCardsFanSF on Aug 10, 2007 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post Lboros
by bukowski on Aug 10, 2007 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
last night was more Rocky 1 than Rocky 2
The first Rocky is a great movie because Rocky doesn't pull off a miracle victory, he justs fights and contends and hangs in. It's a human victory that feels real.
by ChrisK on Aug 10, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That said
by saladdays on Aug 10, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Rocky III
Then the champ comes back to win it all in spite of everyone thinking he's past his prime. (Just without all the ridiculous racism in this story.)
by liam on Aug 10, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
racism?
so whose the woman...hey woman...
the champ has been told "dead meat" and the prediciton has been "pain"
soif they string a run against the Cali teams could this be the gay(not sexually) run scene on th ebeach where it all comes togetehr?
Will the champs say "go for it"
sorry took that a bit far..luv rocky though
by punchinjudy on Aug 10, 2007 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can check out game highights for free on
by Red Blazer on Aug 10, 2007 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Natural Revisited
Everybody wants and would like a second chance and/or a shot at redemption -- so we all live vicariously through someone who does and goes on to "win" in the end.
Just to make it back makes him a winner, but we will end of seeing how great he becomes -- either way it makes for great baseball theatre!
As LaRussa said, sometimes there is no justice in this game -- but this just might be justiced served.
by saytreykid on Aug 10, 2007 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Something silly
by Solanus on Aug 10, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't that be
viva el super-hombre!
by SleepyCA on Aug 10, 2007 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup
Duncan, LF
Pujols, 1B
Edmonds, CF
Rolen, 3B
Ankiel, RF
Molina, C
Wainwright, P
Kennedy, 2B
Pujols will take tomorrow off.
Since LaRussa said that Rolen won't play 4 days in a row, that means he'll likely get Sunday off.
With Speezer out, I guess that Duncan will play 1st tomorrow. Wonder if Juan plays LF or if he still sits.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2007 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
juan
by punchinjudy on Aug 10, 2007 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry is stuck in the mountains!!!!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 10, 2007 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tonic for Bonds Fever
Bonds just saw what a real home run moment means. No build up, no commissioner, no national press --just a great and real story.
Thanks Rick and let that be the first of many.
by The Duke on Aug 10, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs




















