Notable Cardinals after 28 starts
One thing to keep in mind when judging Reyes is that he's only started 28 regular season games. Is this a sufficient number to start making conclusions about his likely future? To help answer that I thought I'd look at what other notable Cardinal hurlers did in there first 28 starts:

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Pitcher IP Hits/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 ERA
Reyes 147 8.8 1.5 3.4 7.3 5.45
Benes 161.2 9.5 1.3 3.9 6.5 5.40
Haren 148.1 10.3 1.1 3.5 6.3 5.28
Ankiel 151.1 7.7 1.1 5.1 10.0 4.16
Gibson 186 9.2 0.6 4.7 6.6 3.97
Magrane 180.1 8.4 0.4 3.1 5.3 3.34
Morris 179.1 8.5 0.5 2.9 6.3 2.91
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This just reinforces what we already knew: Reyes' peripherals are quite good, but he gives up too many long balls and, while not outlined here, he crumbles with men on base.
What also jumps out from this data is that all of these pitchers had very different career tracks. Gibby and Haren obviously had slow starts to their careers but picked up steam later. Benes went down with an arm injury and never came back. Morris also went down, but came back as a somewhat different pitcher. Ankiel is a unique case. Magrane was a Mark Mulder type with Mulder's career track.
Reyes' K to BB rate is the best on the board, and his hit rate is good. Obviously he needs to work on keeping his fastball down and off the middle of the plate, but as this data shows, almost all of these eventually good (or great) pitchers were unfinished products after 28 starts.
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nice post guayzimi
http://www.aarongleeman.com/2007_06_17_baseballblog_archive.html#6119402526832281926
like reyes, baker has a great minor-league track record with outstanding k/9 and bb/9 numbers. he's trying to break in with a perrenial contender, and so far it hasn't taken. very, very similar cases.
lotta these stories out there. now that reyes knows he's going to be out there every 5th day, maybe he'll just relax and it will click for him. i hope so.
by lboros on Jun 19, 2007 1:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah...
Reyes on the other hand matches up in some respects with anyone. His problems seem very clear cut. He's terrible w/RISP. Whether it's nerves, or a problem with pitching out of the stretch, I don't know. But it certainly seems solvable... much easier to solve than, say, not being able to throw any quality pitches.
by guayzimi on
Jun 19, 2007 1:17 PM EDT
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i think he's doing a lot of things right
by lboros on
Jun 19, 2007 1:24 PM EDT
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Which Benes are you talking about
by kyle man on Jun 19, 2007 1:32 PM EDT 0 recs
magrane vs mulder... ouch
I'm not familiar with the story of Magrane. Other than their left-handedness and number of innings thrown at an early age, are there any similarities between the two in terms of style of pitcher, or type of injury?
by taiko on Jun 19, 2007 1:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Well, now that
by jillsinmo on Jun 19, 2007 1:46 PM EDT 0 recs
What was Gibby's velocity
That helps his ceiling be higher. For Reyes, he isn't so lucky. He's already had a history of arm trouble, coupled with dangerous mechanics.
I hope Reyes turns into Gibby or Haren, heck..I'd take a young Matt Morris.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2007 2:06 PM EDT 0 recs
ceiling
by DanUpBaby on
Jun 20, 2007 6:43 AM EDT
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Another comparison
IP Hits/9 HR/9 BB/9 K/9 ERA
155 10.5 1.0 4.29 5.84 5.61
by NCSaluki on Jun 19, 2007 2:10 PM EDT 0 recs
You beat me to it.
by DriverZn on
Jun 19, 2007 4:48 PM EDT
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NCSaluki...
i saw Randal Falker on campus today.
by kindred on
Jun 19, 2007 11:36 PM EDT
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