Game 60 Open Thread: June 10, 2007, 1:15 CDT
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GAME TIME 1:15 CDT
If it's 12:30 in the am and you're wondering why the game thread is up already, it's because I have an appointment early and I'm headed to see the Swing take on my local Cedar Rapids Kernels. I'm really looking forward to seeing Tyler Herron pitch.
Last time we saw this younger Weaver he was sporting a Cardinal cap and jacket and crying all over his big brother who had pitched brilliantly and helped bring home his family and team a championship. How different today. Anyway, re: last night's action, there's not much to say. When Looper has it, he has it. When he doesn't, he's a disaster. There's not much middle ground with him; such is the way when you have a pitcher who lives or dies with the sinker. Oh, well. The Angels are just in a class the Cardinals cannot sniff at at this point, and I'm not sure it gets better today with Wellemeyer, just based on his previous results and the way the Angels are raking it right now. I'm sure this wisecrack has already been said 100 times since the Percival signing --- enjoy pitching in the rotation, Troy.At this point there are no simple solutions. The trade market is non-existent right now, and this beast of a wild card system creates more buyers then sellers, giving the sellers more leverage. At some point, it's time to come up to the lick-log and say it's so. Even if this crappy division is winnable, what are the odds of them limping into the playoffs and winning it again? There are some real gains that come with just making the playoffs, just from a financial standpoint. But with the Brewers building a strong core from within, it would seem any attempt at running at another division title would be likely a last hurrah. Of course these are probably all premature musings here, but I'd prefer the Cardinals be sellers this season. There are some real needs here that need to be addressed and it's better to have leverage, versus trying to drive a dead horse to the finish line. Who they could sell and how they would go about it, I don't know. Maybe it's just a pipe dream. I'm happy that the core of this group finally came together and won a championship. Now blow the darn thing up if humanly possible and hit the reset button. The Angels did not do that the year after they won the Series, and they were miserable the following season. It took quite a bit of spending and waving good-bye to some of their heroes to get back. Ironically, the heroes they've been letting go Walt has been scooping up, with Percival being the latest. Thankfully we avoided Darin Erstad. That was a rumor I remember hearing and cringing at last winter, and the winter before that.
Do I believe 100% that that is the solution? I dunno for sure, it's actually doubtful they could unload much. Just sayin'.
- After the game, you may want to check ESPN to watch Oregon State take on Michigan in the NCAA tourney. They were rained out today, so there's a chance RHP Mike Stutes, the Cardinals 9th round pick could be starting. He was thought to be drafted higher by many analysts and is just a junior, so then again there's a shot he'll go back to OSU.
- Speaking of which, keep your eyes open for when Rice plays next week. They've advanced to the College World Series, and their lead-off hitter and CF is Tyler Henley, the Cards 10th round pick.
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A potential trade
I wouldn't want to give up much for him since he's only so far established himself as a mediocre middle reliever. The Rangers have their middle infield locked up longterm but there aren't many interesting prospects at those positions in the upper levels of their farm system, except maybe 2B German Duran who looks like a great hitter, at least. Doug Mathis is pitching well at AA.
(Game 60, too)
The Cardinals
That would be too easy
Sellers...
The Cardinals best option is to stand pat, i know it is hard and it will make for a long year, but i would rather stay where we are than try to salvage the season by doing costly prospects-for-veterans deals that could set the organization back 4 to 5 years. Besides, our farm system is weak enough as it is, we cannot afford to start shipping more guys off for more 30+ ball players, eventually every team has to go through a youth movement.
agreed
It looks to be a long year and next year doesn't look much better. :-(
the team is in the race
by LaRussa4President on Jun 10, 2007 6:00 AM EDT reply actions
blow up...
we've got one more year (after '07) of Edmonds, Enc, Eck, Mulder, & Izzy (if we pick up his option). of those, the only tradeable pieces are Enc and Izzy. Enc's salary has become pretty affordable, judging by last year's market, and he's definitely movable to a team that suffers an OF injury, but that's the only scenario which would generate a strongly positive return. Izzy could be much more valuable, but he's a 10-5 player, and he seems to have a lot of ties to the organization and the organization seems to have a lot of ties to him. it would have to be a great deal for us (and him) for him to go. Eck isn't tradeable, because he basically sucks; too many defensive errors, and not nearly enough offense to make up for it. the team is counting on Mulder for next year; we haven't got any other pieces to trade, excepting a minor deal for Wilson or something inconsequential like that. truth is, we won't get any really great prospects for anyone we've got, barring major injuries to a contending team. so there's no point in dealing; better to ride it out and hope we can make it to the postseason with the current roster.
next year, Wilson/Taguchi should be gone, and will clear up spots for Ankiel/J-Rod/Stavinhova. hopefully, Miles will also be gone if we can sign Belliard or somebody like him for a bench role at the minimum. and maybe DeJock will spring for an impact OF, and trade Enc for a servicable starting pitcher. unlikely, but that would be the hope. the money will be there for at least one big signing; it's only a question of whether they can pull the trigger, and convince a big name to come to St. Louis.
lboros wrote just 3 days ago
We could have easily won the first game against the Angels if the bullpen had held (which it has for most of the year) and this series would be split. But having with two losses, we are suddenly back to blowing up the team. And if we had split the series, would there be calls to blow up the team?
It's hard to keep up with the huge mood swings on this site. It's these kinds of drastic tunrs--from "the offense is repaired" to "blow up the team" in a period of three day--that make me wonder about the melodrama of it all--instant reaction and emotion with every up and down, instant predictions of possible success and then certain doom. I don't know why anyone would even want to watch baseball if you let yourself be jerked around by each win and loss. Where is the fun in that? Maybe you should read a post after the last win before writing a post after a loss. Perhaps we could get a little more consistency then.
by nycardfan on Jun 10, 2007 8:55 AM EDT reply actions
i'm not lboros
Well,
If the Cards can hold it together until July Carp will be back. Mulder soon after. They will then be in postion to make a run at the division. They simply just need to hang around until then. Of course if they get hot down the stretch that will carry into the playoffs.
As far as next season goes the rotation and pen both look good. The bench could be improved with youth from the farm, and all we really need is a lead off shortstop.
Maybe we have been spoiled, but ladies and gentlemen I live in Syracuse, We have the Orangemen. We have the Bills, and Sabres. I know sports fustration. In addition I am an Philly Eagle fan. So you can imagine my pain. The Cards bring sweet release!
We all need to relax and be patient.
this makes sense to me too
Thanks for your temporate response
As to the offense not being a problem. I agree with that. But, if today's musings were prompted by the last two losses, they have been a problem. They provided only 1 run after the fourth. Many blame Kipp for leaving the offense with only a 1 run lead. But the offense did little over five innings to help the team. And last night, our only real asset was Edmonds. I think our MV3, our catchers, Encarnacion, and Eckstein have been impressive recently offensively and wouldn't want to blow them up. I am frustrated with Kennedy and wouldn't mind a trade there. Ironically, the person in the worst slump is Duncan and I doubt many would want to throw him overboard
As to the rotation, it's limping now because the cards didn't think far enough ahead to operate on Carp in February (when they first learned of the growth in his bone spurs) or in April (when it became obvious that it was disrupting his game). They also delayed Moulder's surgery beyond when they should have. We have to be patient now that they made these time-delaying and in my mind stupidly short-sighted decisions.
I also think we have real assets beyond Carp and Moulder. Wainwright has had a good month with all quality starts except his last one (and there he didn't implode). The scout reports on Wainwright have been glowing--many times calling him spectacular--when he has played without injury. He's still learning in his first year and is going to have ups and downs, but we're luckly to have someone with such, skill, confidence, and grit. Scouts have also been complimentary to Thompson for his tough disposition and steady contributions. He seems like a Suppan kind of guy and Suppan worked welll for us. Looper did better at the beginning of the season than the last month. He could be experiencing growing pains as a new starter. Even without calling back Reyes, which I'm not sure LaRussa and Duncan want to do, we have talent to work with. And Hawksworth is waiting in the wings.
My main worry is coaching. I'm still not confident LaRussa and Duncan know how to work well with young pitchers and they are going to have to learn if they are going to be successful in the future.
by nycardfan on Jun 10, 2007 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
One correction
by nycardfan on Jun 10, 2007 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
off the subject
by mono on Jun 10, 2007 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
The "Bad Weaver"....
by Ignatius J Reilly on Jun 10, 2007 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard he retired 11 in a row before he....
Farewell Izzy, hello Troy?
It also seems to fit TLR's MO to bring in a (Capital V) Veteran like Percival if a move was in the works. Should a trade go down, I would expect Franklin to be given the chance to close, with Percival as an insurance policy, ala Cal Eldred.
For my money, now is a perfect time to sell high on Isringhausen. He's more healthy and effective than he has been in years. It seems reasonable that a contending team with bullpen issues would give up some quality prospects for a veteran arm like Izzy and the chance to win now. And at 34, it's hard to imagine Izzy maintaining this level of effectiveness much longer.
To cheer everyone up...
by nycardfan on Jun 10, 2007 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
Buy/ Sell
- Izzy. It seems to me many contending teams look for bullpen help in the stretch. As bg said "He's more healthy and effective than he has been in years."
- Blooper. As much as I'd hate to see him go, he is a valuable comodity, a mid to back of the rotation guy making ~$5/ year.
- Reyes, though if we trade him, I'm sure its at a loss for us.
- Edmonds. Think Larry Walker '04. A veteran OF still capable of gold glove defense will probably be useful to one or two contenders by mid summer.
- Taguchi. I know it sounds outrageous, but I'd bet some clubs would be willing to overpay for the guy. He still does play an average CF and is "clutch." I'm not saying we'd get much for him, but even a low level prospect could help us.
Edmonds isn't going anywhere
He is the only realistic protection provided to Pujols right now. In the vein of 'Larry Walker '04' it would be the opposite. Instead of installing a clubhouse leader, they'd be ripping this teams leader out. Since he is the bridge between a lot of the younger guys, Rolen and TLR, I would hope Edmonds is here until he hangs them up.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Edmonds?
Edmonds looks like he's heading back to his 2004 strength and ability to pull the ball. And right now, he's one of our most reliable home run hitters.
Also, Edmonds is undoubtedly the team leader. I think he, more than La Russa, has the ability to both fire up the team and keep them calm when things look bad. Plus, he's been a great coach to our younger players. It's only because of Edmonds that Wainwright was able to figure the problem with his delivery. And he counsels young batters as well. He expends himself for the sake of the entire team unlike any other veteran player I can think of.
The P-D repeatedly has said "as goes Edmonds, so goes the team."
Why trade a multi-golden glove outfielder who is coming back to his power hitting form and who is the clear leader of the team. For both tangible and intangible reasons, that would be a bad trade and would waste a lot of money that could be better spent elsewhere (like right filed, second base, or shortstop).
And Taguchi is low cost and high value for how we use him. He had an off year last year. But has been a tremendous clutch hitter this year. Plus he's made some great defensive plays and is flexible in how he can fill in for injured outfielders.
Izzy is also probably a good value for how excellent he has been. Question is, how long will that last?
by nycardfan on Jun 10, 2007 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade-able Pieces
- Isringhausen (if Troy pitches well Izzy would seem expendable), he's in the last year of his deal with an option for next year)
- Looper (buyers are always looking for starting pitching. Loop has been decent enough to be pretty valuable, only 1 year left on his contract after this year)
- Juan Enc (has been pretty good since he's been back, only 1 year left after this on his contract)
- Ryan Franklin
- Russ Springer
- David Eckstien
- Randy Flores
- Kip Wells (wouldn't bring much, but we need to get rid of him)
Our post-deadline team
Rotation
- Carp
- Mulder
- Wainwright
- Thompson
- Reyes
Closer: Percival
LH: TJ
LH: Cate
RH: Wellemeyer
RH: K. Jimenez
RH: Worrell
RH: Dove
C: Yadi
1b: Pujols
2b: Kennedy
3b: Rolen
SS: Ryan
LF: Dunc
CF: JEd
RF: J-Rod
Bench
C: Bennett
IF: Miles
IF: Spiezio
OF: Gooch
OF: Ludwick
Looks good to me. I think we could get a decent haul of prospects for Izzy and Looper. And if we package some of the other guys we could get some good deals. We could especially get good prospects if we are willing to eat some of these guys salary (which we should be able to do). I say go for it, if the market doesn't look favorable we can hold back and stand pat.
I'm assuming that is in the event the season is
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
this situation is..
Also since when does Wainers have arm trouble?
Don't panic!
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions
The Cards
BTW how the hell do La Duncan like Springer he's 10x worse than Reyes when it comez to not being able to keep the ball down.
Bring up Reyes, and realize he's actually good.
Trade Looper for something before he starts to completely suck.
Tell Milwaukee to give us Dave Bush, and see if he's not so unlucky for us. Then tell the Twins to give us Dennys Reyes, so La Duncan can play with there shiny new toys and Reyes is the ultimate GB pitcher in which they will try to convert to Brandon Webb but won't work somehow.
Trade Eck and Enc if you can, all they are are replacement type players, who make too much in my opinion. Then trade for Pat Burrell and money and hope a new scenery helps him, he also has been unlucky this year.
Wait and pray Rolen and Edmonds learn how to play baseball again.
Then keep thanking god that we play in the sad NL Central.
Then win World Series, come on people it's this easy.
by bigboy1234 @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 10, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
MLB.TV
Days I have to watch on MLB.TV make me so grateful for Extra Innings.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not raining in St. Louis, so no.
by bigboy1234 @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 10, 2007 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Soooooo good of a catch
Rolen and Dunc with days off.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
This is my 1st Channel 5 broadcast
Also, when was the last inning the Angels went 1,2,3 like that.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
watching So slide into that wall
Why is Welley doing so well?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions
Gotta love Juan
by bigboy1234 @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 10, 2007 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
great AB
by jeff abs on Jun 10, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
Did Juan just leg out a triple?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe TLR lit a fire under his ass
A healthy wrist?
Glad to see Miles in the lineup. Adam Kennedy would have turned that into a double play somehow.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't buy that.
Maybe his wrist hurt so bad
;P
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Without a doubt
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Shannon just said:
(Meaning he's got a spark.)
Rain, rain
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
How's it look in STL? Weather Underground makes it
"The rain has been decreasing in intensity and coverage so what rain does fall will be light."
It's clear here in southern Indiana; they should move the game to my back yard.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 10, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Welley losing command
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
And this is that part of the game...
Damnit.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
How about a DP
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Or load the bases so Figgins
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
1 out away
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Fudge
Gotta get Cabrera.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Figgins scores from 1st?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Figgins
Sharp ball hit to the wall
I don't care if he's Lou Brock, that shouldn't happen.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
the hottest team
Albert Pujols is officially 'back'
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
We may have the worst pitching staff in the majors
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
Well
by TNFan32 on Jun 10, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I sort of ment another run
BTW--According to gameday all of Weavers pitches in the strike zone are up.. Seems like he might not be 100% today.
To bad we have a KC Royal cast off on the mound to counter that.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Why can't we kill the Angels
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
Wellemeyer on the mound
The Queen has been notified. There shall be a banquet tonight!
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Why don't we just start drilling them
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hello all
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Jun 10, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
"Looks like a little beaver down there
Moonman!
Or, if you prefer:
"The world cannot exist without tape. Second, baseball couldn't exist without tongue depressers. he-he-he-he."
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
Dam
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, game over
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
How many BS Bloop shot singles....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 10, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
In other news
Had to outbid football.
Hopefully he'll go Rick Ankiel, flame out, and still be able to salvage a decent career as a reciever somewhere.
And this is where the game
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
Getting Chone Figgins out
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hallelujah.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
Birds will most likely lose this one, but it was nice to see that guy retired with the sacks jammed for once. I was expecting a tripple.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Bootcheck
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
You better score some runs
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
Will it still be a 1 run game
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
Guess so
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
There goes that man again
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
Good lord
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Jun 10, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
Albert's June line...
He's hitting a home run every 5.66 AB's.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 10, 2007 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
34 AB's, .324 avg, 6 HR, 12 RBI's, with an OPS of
sadly,
by longhornscardinals on Jun 10, 2007 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert hurts himself going after that ball
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
D'Artagnan In
Will Shea get a pitch to the keester in his next at-bat?
Nice, nice catch by Taguchi as I was looking up this Fungoes piece noting that Flores was our worst 2006 reliever in Inherited Runs Prevented.
felt like Wellemeyer pitched better than
I guess two huge Pujols homeruns make any pitcher look a bit better.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 10, 2007 4:24 PM EDT reply actions
4 ER
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Two walks, one hit batsman
Can Rolen go in as a defensive replacement
Why do I feel like a guy
If we hold on to this one, I'll need a drink. If we don't, I'll need 5.
Maybe Hombre can smack another one out next inning for some insurance.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
If you think he's not getting 4 wide ones
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You walk him with
Yeah, you're right.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Two-Inning Save
I'd prefer the top of the lineup lifts us out of a save situation in the bottom of the inning and Cavazos get the six outs, of course.
I do not want Cavazos to try and get 6 outs
That's me hoping we score enough runs
Nice play Speezer
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
Go get him now Ryan
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Atta Boy, kid
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Lidge is going back into the closers role
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
This Reds vs. Indians game
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
Over.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Gameday is lagging..
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
cmon pujols,
by longhornscardinals on Jun 10, 2007 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Do you walk him?
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
If Pujols hits a HR
...except we aren't on FSN.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
Pujols was a little too amped up
That's alright, Jimmy is going to crush one.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Or not.
Now Speezer will pop out helplessly.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
See what I did there...
Happy Sunday everybody!
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
from now on, be negative.
you call an out for speez, and he homers.
by longhornscardinals on Jun 10, 2007 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He deserves
by cloistermaximus on Jun 10, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
it must be sunday
i wish everyday was sunday.
Wow
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Jun 10, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Best move of the day
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
all hail the amazing red imperial!!
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 10, 2007 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
Jay Randolph just called the straightest of
What was with the Dr. Seuss?
He's a modern day poet and he didn't even know it.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds more like Adam Sandler
Two innings pitched today... Conspiracy theorists, start your engines—they're stretching out Franklin!
That 5-9 score looks great
The win and the offense coming alive
Let's win 7 of 10!
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Duncan has the biggest wad of
But I still love his bat (despite the strikeout).
Uh-oh
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet
Anyway, I'll take it and welcome the Royals series (although I'm not all that comfortable with them either).
Sundays are good.
by Big Red on Jun 10, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
I think we....
by AL on Jun 10, 2007 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
An absurd amount of bloop hits/singles
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 10, 2007 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, those rotoworld news blips
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
Aaron Gleeman writes the AL ones
rotoworld
by Petkovsek on Jun 10, 2007 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
Lilly just got ejected in
Hardcore --
i just started watching that game..
by davethebutcher on Jun 10, 2007 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Clemens v. Johnson
I was thinking about that too
Woohoo! Atlanta takes the lead!
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 10, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
Game!
I hate that Pie's
Good opportunity
That wild pitch by Dempster looked unbelievably painful. He fell flat on his chest and his landing leg twisted up behind him.
Can CoCo Cordero
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
He sure can
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2007 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
From the sound of it
Rangers still have hope. The Brewers bullpen has used it's best weapons and the Rangers have their best 3 active bats (Byrd, Young, Sosa) coming up.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2007 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions

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