Game Fifty Open Thread: 30 May 2007: injury backup rally
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Before we talk about today’s game, I should note that, Twenty-Five years ago today, Cal Ripken, Jr. played the first game in his streak. Here's to Cal, and to those golden days of the eighties.Now for today's game. Today, Todd Wellemeyer makes his first start since he started twelve games for the 2005 AAA Iowa Cubs. The results there didn't look too bad (3.05 ERA, lots of K, though with a high WHIP), and it's not like 2005 is ancient history, but he has yet to make a major league start. Count me amongst those who are confused as to what La Russa and Duncan saw in Wellemeyer that screamed "starter," but stranger things have happened than having this guy succeed.
But having a career reliever make his first start in Colorado, throwing at either a backup or third catcher, during an increasingly desperate looking season?
Gutsy move, to say the least. Hopefully, our Todd will come up on top when he sees Helton today.
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Is Reyes starting tonight
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
Guess not
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
According to the Memphis website...
I'm holding out hope...
by nycardfan on May 30, 2007 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Earlier today, I believe
by rockin redbird on May 30, 2007 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wellemeyer Pitch Count
His complete game log is here.
In that 74-pitch outing, he lasted 2 2/3 IP vs. the Athletics, allowing 7 hits, two of them homers, five runs (4 earned). He walked 1 and struck out three, collecting 4 flyball outs to 1 gb out.
His longest outing was April 30th, when he went 3 hitless innings on 29 pitches—1 strikeout, no walks, 6:2 G:F. It would be super-duper if he could do that again for twice as many innings.
Totally super-duper.
Holy Smokes...
6 2/3 IP, 89 pitches, 1 ER on 2 hits, a walk, and five strikeouts.
sink or swim
his home run rate
hence the nickname
As I said the other day
For those of you with 0 idea of what I'm talking about...
here's the satire article I'm referencing.
FiveBlades
gotta love the Onion.
by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Freakin Hysterical
by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
unless I'm mistaken
well. I don't know if that's supposed to give any of us hope or not.
also, the Rockies announcers said yesterday he'd be limited to about 65 pitches. but they also seem to think that So Taguchi is a latter-day Willie Mays in the field, so who knows...
Gut feeling
Now that I've said that, we're going to lose 19-4.
so y didn't they call this guy up?
at least his minors #'s were servacable
Lineup
Taguchi LF
Pujols 1B
Edmonds CF
Rolen 3B
Encarnacion RF
Bennett C
Kennedy 2B
Wellemeyer P
Looks like no Eckstein again. A bunch of 'wasted' roster spots right now.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Wasted roster spots
Miles has a higher batting average than Eckstein. Pujols has been on a hitting streak lately, Edmonds has home runs in 3 out of the last four nights, Rolen went 3 for 4 last night with 1 home run. Wasted spots? And as I recall, Taguchi homered with the Rockies. Maybe not the best possible lineup. But really. I'm getting tired of the dramatics.
by nycardfan on May 30, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
if you think that lineup is more than a .500
(clarification)
Your lack of comprehension is not failure
Duncan
Spiezio
Eckstein
are all injured or sick, and according to Rockies announcers, unavailible tonight.
That means on the bench we have Esposito (backup catcher won't hit) and Ludwick.
So tell me, future boy, what would you call roster spots that can't be used in the game?
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
so the batters box
No drama here,
Juan hurt his wrist
Could be interesting to see if he makes it all 9 innings.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
scotty will be chnaged
todd
Good start
Put him on and get to the tender sticks.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
he's following the example
of course
by Petkovsek on May 30, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
c'mon Hindenburg...
I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering what
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
The kid who has
when was the last time
knowing my memory, it was probably this past weekend.
"Oh the humanity!!!"
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
LBoros - nice note from Bernie
"BTW, Luhnow did a good job of avoiding answering the question about all of this when the esteemed Larry Borowsky asked."
Chalk up another point that some blogs are in fact doing real journalism. Nice to see.
that sinking change
That front shoulder is flying open
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
hardcore
Apparently
glad i'm not the only one
3rd game
I love the total lack of sourcing on such ratings. Are they just eyeballing it?
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that pop fly to Miles
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
what's hindenburg's pitch count?
Wow
I was also impressed
gary bennetts gamecast pic
wellemeyer as a starter
Think about it, he's only really struggled while being in the big leagues as a reliever. He was a mega-prospect in the minors as a starter. Maybe he just has a better mindset as a starter? Obviously he's going to have to refamiliarize himself with that, but I think some good might be able to come from this.
Pong noises are actually less obnoxious
this just in the
when reached for comment
ok hardcore
Was it just me
i'm trying to figure out how to combine
anyway, if i succeed, i think this immediately becomes the list of greatest radio calls ever:
1. giants win the pennant x infinity
2. jack cannot believe what he just saw
3. oh, the (in)humanity of suzyn waldman
4. go crazy folks
I've heard the same
I'm still waiting on the 'interesting' part
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i'mnot sure what you
Wild thing, you make my heart sing
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
0-2 95 mph fastballs
Repeat after me.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
oh the humanity
Amazing
Don't touch him with out a fire hose?.............
That was brutal
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither does Kip Wells
Wellemeyer isn't THAT bad. He is making some boneheaded mistakes but he does seem to minimize damage well.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So follows w/ a 9-pitch AB
by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ya that was a good ab by
At the pace we're at...
by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
in case you missed it
wow
I love his sense of entitlement
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
mr clutch
He's Mr. Clutch
It's the same logic used to anoint Ortiz as god of clutch.
Come on AP
by roscoe on May 30, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
Rockies have some talent
i wish our backup cathcer could hit
It's 95 - 96 mph
Dave thinks that is a-ok.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why I think I like Wellemeyer
oh, sweet Lord,
Their inane remarks (and trivial data) are giving me a severe stomach ache.
by faninexile on May 30, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
humidor = time capsule
they've got to be the worst in all of baseball
I have a feeling Edmonds is going
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
um, wot's risfinitz?
2 strikes Wellemeyer
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
That'll work
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Just trying to get Holliday and Helton
by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Jimmy's only triple of the year...
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
I missed one?
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Love to see
by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
From Will Carroll
"Watch the injury to Chris Duncan. There may be more here than reported currently, and I'm working on something, hopefully for tomorrow. ... "
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6289
Doesn't sound promising
wft?
Let keep 'em coming, boys.
Scotty
by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
MV3! MV3!
has anyone else noticed
can we trade instant breakfast
by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Instant Breakfast
Even Shannon and Rooney are ripping on Juan. The man has no friends. ;o)
"Not only did he fail, it looked like he didn't even try." --Mike Shannon
by cardsgirlinAR on May 30, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
I guess if Shannon were manager for a day
Too bad that won't happen.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
From Shannon's mouth...
(ew, that play on a cliche could sound really gross...but I'm sharing it anyway)
by cardsgirlinAR on May 30, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That's right, big boy
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
82 pitches for Hirsch
We're hitting him well
It was mentioned earlier
by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
So is way too valuable as a bench player
So he better start every day.
Except against lefties, of course.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If Duncan goes to the DL
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Where does Ankiel play
He seems like a natural RF. Bench Juan.
Albert!!!!!
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If JRod could stay healthy
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=John%2520Rodriguez&pos=&sid=milb&a mp;t=p_pbp&pid=431138
by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, sweet Lord,
by faninexile on May 30, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
Wow
by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
he was OUT
That was a good inning
Ha. Yeah right.
FSN Mountain
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
I would love to see
I'll take 1st and 2nd too
be right back
wow, pujols...
by longhornscardinals on May 30, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
MV3! MV3!
WHAMMIY!
if only they were able to replicate these results
MV3! MV3!
This is a GREAT inning!!
I cannot remember the last time this happened.
Back-to-back on 2 straight pitches (both first pitches too!)
JIMMMMMMMYYYYYY!!!!!!!
by faninexile on May 30, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
humidor's broken
Fine by me
I just got
by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so
OK
Instant Breakfast gets a hit?
by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Freakin
Defying the greatness that could be Gary Bennett.
What was with that scared fan in the slo-mo?
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
how deep
didn't think Holliday was gonna catch it....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on May 30, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Hardcore
oh brother
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a Reyes apologist
Well, I think it's pretty obvious
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The movie
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh My God Hardcore
by the red baron on May 31, 2007 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
ya irony
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
5 and a third
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Out(s) recorded?
by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
It looked like
by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No clue...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on May 30, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It wasn't a HR
Think Willie Mays Hayes.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
omigoodness
by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
wow
Hirsh is D-U-N
and hirsh
there we go!
Astros just lost their 10th straight
In other news...
Izzy should be rested.. when is the last time he pitched with a lead? Two weeks?
by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
Brewers lost too
by Petkovsek on May 30, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Copy that for the Pirates.
by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I know when my team is down 6 runs...
by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, remember, it's colorado
hardcore
The movie
Reyes is the Cooler for this team's offense, apparently.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
is it me
A ton of fastballs, everywhere in the zone, and changeups when you get ahead.
... and no curveballs.
welly could be done
Only* at 76 pitches as of now
Yeah, but
by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think FSN Rocky Mtn
by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Oh my.. the Queen is Dead!
by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
If we hold this 6-run lead
even clint hurdle
Last time
by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he's getting paid
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Thr Rox cameraman can bite me
the look on martin's face
(i was rooting for a double to give him a legit chance at the cycle).
And we pitch to him because??????
by faninexile on May 30, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
Shouldn't you be older than 35
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
Just so everyone knows
And twice he went 6 innings with 4 runs.
For you math majors, thats 7 of his 9 starts.
and?
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
he's trying to say that reyes' 6+ ERA
Not sure it really works that way.
several on here
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And...
see your point
by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
wheneverholliday
Alex Rodriguez, if things weren't already bad for
Have to imagine he catches a lot of heat for that.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
Like knocking the ball
Let's hope so.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I leave to go eat a late dinner
needless to say, I'm gone again till the game's over. see everyone after the game.
peace.
thanks, guys,
by faninexile on May 30, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
It was so bad
by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Audio
by paCardsFan on May 31, 2007 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
So Juan E's out now
by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
Checking back in
Pujols keeps inching to .300 but not punching through damnit. If for nothing else, do it for my fantasy team Albert.
after i wanna say sundays game
by longhornscardinals on May 30, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
How about some love for So?
by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet!
Ryan Ludwick bomb?
from sunflower seeds to facial hair
How about the director who thinks their conversations are broadcast worthy?
by faninexile on May 30, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
apparently the fact that
i mean, i'm sorta speechless, if that's number one on the list.
anybody noticed
by longhornscardinals on May 30, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe Albert
by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally, a great use of slo-mo
by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
yikes
by stlcardinalsfang on May 30, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
i think itd be funny
by stlcardinalsfang on May 30, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions
Some BCB postings from earlier today
they have Todd Wellemeyer going as a starter!
by Chanman25 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 at 7:18 PM CT
20 bucks says wellemeyer would shut us out today
by CubsBall2202 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 at 7:24 PM CT
RE: Lidge
Izzy is the
They should play the music when he comes out. It's like a whole new guy.
Chris Duncan update
[...]
"Barry [Weinberg, head athletic trainer] talked to him today and he's doing much better," Jocketty said. "I think Barry wants him to continue to stay off his feet, let it continue to heal. It's kind of a freaky thing. ... If they determine in the next day or so that he's not going to get back for a while, then we'll consider something."
He is getting better, that is a good thing. I don't know much about this kind of injury but from what the missus has told me about a friend that had such an injury in their elbow, they had to get like 4 surgeries to finally correct it.
I say, put him on the DL for 15 days and let it heal right.
by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 1:02 AM EDT reply actions
learn from the pitching staff
good lord
much liter note, great win tonight. shocked wellemeyer didn't crap his own bed. did Dave work him magic again? don't know. only saw a few batters. MV3 finally put together a good game. we all needed that badly. still, it's only one game. don't get too high about this. don't get too low. see if they can put together a few more like it in a row. then it will be time to get excited.
i have some experience with this
I had severe bursitis issues starting in my senior year in high school and then all through college. Mine was caused by repetitive stress on the kneecap from driving into the mat while wrestling; I'd have between 50 and 80 (ml/cc/whatever the units were) of nasty pink fluid drained every other week or so. The dude who drained them (same guy who did my ears) thought it was hilarious. I still have problems if I try to run too far or spend the day scrubbing my bathroom or something, though the swelling does go down by itself after a week or so if you stay off it.
The swelling itself is really weird because the knees don't actually hurt when swollen, other than a kind of annoying achiness, kind of like shin splints; the swelling mostly made them numb, and then when the fluid is drained it feels like the leg is asleep for about an inch above and 2 inches below the bottom of each kneecap. I never needed anesthetic. The only time it really hurt was right after getting a cortisone(?) shot, but I can only remember that happening a couple of times. I'd be unable to run or even ride a bike for a day or two after one of those, but it would stop the swelling for a long time.
As far as "additional injury" goes, the numbness is what you really have to watch out for (at least that's what the therapists and doctors told me). The bursitis itself was just an annoyance as long as it didn't break the sac, which was "pretty much impossible to do" according to my doctor, but the numbness could lead to a different injury in the same way that a twisted ankle can cause a torn hamstring or a broken ankle if you favor that leg while running.
If he actually broke his bursae sac then that is something way beyond what I had, but i beat the crap out of mine while swollen up and never had that happen so I doubt it is the case. if it is, he'll probably be out a while, if it's not he should be in the lineup by the weekend imho.
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