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Game Fifty Open Thread: 30 May 2007: injury backup rally

Wellemeyer

Hirsh

0-1, 8.06

2-4, 4.30

GAME TIME 8:05 CDT

Before we talk about today’s game, I should note that, Twenty-Five years ago today, Cal Ripken, Jr. played the first game in his streak. Here's to Cal, and to those golden days of the eighties.

Now for today's game. Today, Todd Wellemeyer makes his first start since he started twelve games for the 2005 AAA Iowa Cubs. The results there didn't look too bad (3.05 ERA, lots of K, though with a high WHIP), and it's not like 2005 is ancient history, but he has yet to make a major league start. Count me amongst those who are confused as to what La Russa and Duncan saw in Wellemeyer that screamed "starter," but stranger things have happened than having this guy succeed.

But having a career reliever make his first start in Colorado, throwing at either a backup or third catcher, during an increasingly desperate looking season?

Gutsy move, to say the least. Hopefully, our Todd will come up on top when he sees Helton today.

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Not to mention....
Hawpe....Holliday....Tulowitzki....Atkins...

by Timbo02 on May 30, 2007 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Reyes starting tonight
down in Memphis?
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess not
already played tonight.  Ankiel went 2 for 4.  Skippy hit his 3rd HR.
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to the Memphis website...
They played a day game today and lost to Tucson 3-2 ...Reyes didn't pitch.

by Timbo02 on May 30, 2007 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm holding out hope...
They saw a guy who was built like a starter (like Looper) and had a pretty good minor league history.  I also read that Duncan thinks his main problem has been control and that that can be fixed (or altered) by slowing down his fast ball.  He's supposed to have two other pitches he can rely on so he's more flexible than Thompson.  Since Looper and Thompson have worked out better than I expected, I'm interested in seeing what they can do with this guy.  And Bennett is not Yadi, but he's pretty good for a back-up pitcher and he has had good hitting streaks.  He's also participated in strategy sessions (according to Carp) for all the games.  This is not new territory for him.  Who knows.  Maybe he'll have a calming influence on pitchers, like other older veterans have had on this team (Izzy and Edmonds in particular).

by nycardfan on May 30, 2007 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitch Count
I wonder what kind of pitch count Wellemeyer will be on...

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by whiteyball on May 30, 2007 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Earlier today, I believe
I read TLR said none (yeah, right). I would assume 70-80, unless he gets totally shelled right away or is cruising along with no problems at all.

by rockin redbird on May 30, 2007 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wellemeyer Pitch Count
As the beat writers have made hay of today, Wellemeyer's high pitch count for this season was 74 pitches in his last outing for the Royals (I guess they figured they'd burn him up before dumping him.)

His complete game log is here.

In that 74-pitch outing, he lasted 2 2/3 IP vs. the Athletics, allowing 7 hits, two of them homers, five runs (4 earned). He walked 1 and struck out three, collecting 4 flyball outs to 1 gb out.

His longest outing was April 30th, when he went 3 hitless innings on 29 pitches—1 strikeout, no walks, 6:2 G:F. It would be super-duper if he could do that again for twice as many innings.

Totally super-duper.

by liam on May 30, 2007 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Smokes...
Check out this game of Wellemeyer's from last season.

6 2/3 IP, 89 pitches, 1 ER on 2 hits, a walk, and five strikeouts.

by liam on May 30, 2007 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

sink or swim
I just think he's a sink or swim guy.  he's either going to be great or awful, and it might vary from batter to batter, inning to inning, or even game to game.  it's hard to tell, but it seems like from what little I've seen of him, he's either blowing people away or coughing up HRs.
Acquire some runs!

by madding on May 30, 2007 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

his home run rate
isn't all that high. He either blows people away or walks them. Wellemeyer:Nolan Ryan::Jorge Sosa:Bert Blyleven.

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hence the nickname
Hindenburg
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I said the other day
This is Duncan's "Fuck it, we're doing five blades" moment.  In fact I might even begin calling Welly just FiveBlades or something.  It's too fitting.

For those of you with 0 idea of what I'm talking about...
here's the satire article
I'm referencing.

Pujols < .300 (it worked for .200)

by joker24 on May 30, 2007 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

FiveBlades
"And I'm telling them to stick two more blades in there. I don't care how. Make the blades so thin they're invisible. Put some on the handle. I don't care if they have to cram the fifth blade in perpendicular to the other four, just do it!"

gotta love the Onion.

by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freakin Hysterical
It made me laugh so hard I forgot we are starting a KC cast off in  Colordado Piss Water Park...
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless I'm mistaken
Wellemeyer started every minor league game he appeared in save for part of 2004.

well.  I don't know if that's supposed to give any of us hope or not.

also, the Rockies announcers said yesterday he'd be limited to about 65 pitches.  but they also seem to think that So Taguchi is a latter-day Willie Mays in the field, so who knows...

Acquire some runs!

by madding on May 30, 2007 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Gut feeling
The kid comes out on top.  5-2.  6 IP 3 H 2 ER 2 BB 3 K

Now that I've said that, we're going to lose 19-4.

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Lineup
Miles SS
Taguchi LF
Pujols 1B
Edmonds CF
Rolen 3B
Encarnacion RF
Bennett C
Kennedy 2B
Wellemeyer P

Looks like no Eckstein again.  A bunch of 'wasted' roster spots right now.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Wasted roster spots
Is this site going to just mope around the rest of the season and rag on everybody?

Miles has a higher batting average than Eckstein.  Pujols has been on a hitting streak lately, Edmonds has home runs in 3 out of the last four nights, Rolen went 3 for 4 last night with 1 home run.  Wasted spots?  And as I recall, Taguchi homered with the Rockies.  Maybe not the best possible lineup.  But really.  I'm getting tired of the dramatics.

by nycardfan on May 30, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

if you think that lineup is more than a .500
lineup (at best!), I think you are sadly mistaken.  They may make serviceable stopgaps but that doesn't mean they should be getting 400 ABs.

by azruavatar on May 30, 2007 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

(clarification)
some of our 'reserves' will be looking at a far larger number of at bats than we anticipated at the beginning of the year and frankly that isn't good.

by azruavatar on May 30, 2007 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your lack of comprehension is not failure
on my part.

Duncan
Spiezio
Eckstein

are all injured or sick, and according to Rockies announcers, unavailible tonight.

That means on the bench we have Esposito (backup catcher won't hit) and Ludwick.

So tell me, future boy, what would you call roster spots that can't be used in the game?

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

so the batters box
is half of regulation size, and the idiots in the broadcast booth blame albert for not adjusting his stance to accommodate?
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

No drama here,
Miles is very adequate as a bench player.  I just don't want him on the field every day.  We need a new shortstop.  Eckstein is a very nice man, and he has been a good player for us.  But he is fading fast. I don't expect him to ever be a productive player everyday ever again.  

by jillsinmo on May 30, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

What
does your magazine say about this season turns out for us, Biff?  

by DCGreg on May 30, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Juan hurt his wrist
swinging at the wild pitch.  Looked down at it like he snapped something.

Could be interesting to see if he makes it all 9 innings.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It's amazing
that arm hasn't fallen off already. That swing's all shoulders and wrists.

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never
should have messed with his DNA. My bad.
Everybody off the bandwagon!

by Alxfritz on May 31, 2007 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

alright
poppy
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

scotty will be chnaged
to poppy rolen until further notice
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol encarnacion
that was the worst pitch you have ever swung at.  
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

todd
has gone to the well and found nothing..
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Good start
Fear the Kaz-man!

Put him on and get to the tender sticks.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

he's following the example
of other starters trail early
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course
Wellemeyer starts it out with a walk....

by Petkovsek on May 30, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

c'mon Hindenburg...
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe
the humidor will kick in.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 30, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering what
Anthony Reyes could do with a 2 run lead in the 1st inning.
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

start it out
with a walk and make it 2-2
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The kid who has
come in and thrown nothing but strikes in relief for us promptly walks the first batter of his first start.  Naturally.  Welcome to the 2007 St. Louis Cardinals.
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

when was the last time
our boys put up a crooked number in the top of the first? feels like forever.

knowing my memory, it was probably this past weekend.

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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

so foul tips
that are caught with a runner going don't count as foul balls?
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

"Oh the humanity!!!"
The flames are burning so bright now, the rear half of the ship appears to be snapping off now.
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

LBoros - nice note from Bernie
Today in discussing the Dewitt/Luhnow - Jocketty/TLR rift Bernie said:

"BTW, Luhnow did a good job of avoiding answering the question about all of this when the esteemed Larry Borowsky asked."

Chalk up another point that some blogs are in fact doing real journalism.  Nice to see.

by OCCardsFan on May 30, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

ESTEEMED
darn right! go larry!
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sinking change
is nasty, but he's gotta get ahead of people to be able to use it on a regular basis.

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

That front shoulder is flying open
like nobodies business.  When he keeps it in, there is a tad more accuracy.
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hardcore
AR would have made it 2-2 as well..then would cruise for 4 straight and get no more runs
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently
the Rockies broadcasters can predict arm strength and accuracy by using little red bars.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 30, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

glad i'm not the only one
who thought that was completely ridiculous. it looked like the indicators on duracell batteries.
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd game
3rd different graphic.

I love the total lack of sourcing on such ratings.  Are they just eyeballing it?

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

JEnc's bar
was yellow, actually ;)
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every ball hit has been hit very hard...
Whats the over under on the HR count today?

by Zubin on May 30, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

what's hindenburg's pitch count?
if the line is 1.5 and a hydrogen explosion, i'll take the over.
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow
he only gave up one run. I call that a minor miracle.
The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 30, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I was also impressed
that Welle ONLY gave up one run.  

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

gary bennetts gamecast pic
looks like he could be Marky marks nextstunt double
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

wellemeyer as a starter
I really do like the idea of Wellemeyer as a starter . . . just not sure about right now.

Think about it, he's only really struggled while being in the big leagues as a reliever. He was a mega-prospect in the minors as a starter. Maybe he just has a better mindset as a starter? Obviously he's going to have to refamiliarize himself with that, but I think some good might be able to come from this.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 30, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

this just in the
cards traded reyes to the padres for hoffman and are converting him to starter
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

LMAO
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

when reached for comment
Duncan said, "Somewhere along the line it was decided that he was a 70, 75 mph guy. But if he stops throwing so hard, he'll be able to pitch to contact much more effectively."

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow kennedy
working the count?
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

ok hardcore
please zoom in and tell us if that kennedy shot was a foul ball or not...
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Was it just me
or did anyone else see chalk fly when that "foul" ball hit the ground?

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm trying to figure out how to combine
the radio broadcast of the hindenburg explosion ("oh, the humanity!") with suzyn waldman's radio call when the rocket showed his mug in the boogiedown ("of awl the dramatic things i have evvuh seen..."). god she is annoying. also, i hate the yankees.

anyway, if i succeed, i think this immediately becomes the list of greatest radio calls ever:

1. giants win the pennant x infinity
2. jack cannot believe what he just saw
3. oh, the (in)humanity of suzyn waldman
4. go crazy folks

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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow strange
People associate Adam Kennedy with the Angels.  Gee I wonder why?

by Zubin on May 30, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I've heard the same
about Garret anderson
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting on the 'interesting' part
of that story.
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'mnot sure what you
guys are refering too was it the rockies announcers?
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wild thing, you make my heart sing
you make everything GROOOOOVVVVYYYYY
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

0-2 95 mph fastballs
should not be belt high.

Repeat after me.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh the humanity
over/under was 3, you said?
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Amazing
The one hitter Welle gets ahead of 0-2 and he gives up a homer to the guy.  Great!

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't touch him with out a fire hose?.............
I'm tired of getting mad at the cards, time to get take out my anger on announcers..

by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

That was brutal
OH.MY.GOD.WE.JUST.HIT.A.HR.IN.THE.MIDDLE.OF.MAY.IN.THE.SECOND.INNING. TIE GAME!
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wellemeyer
has no shot to stick in the rotation... guy has no control.

by El Hombre on May 30, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Neither does Kip Wells
and we paid him $4 million.

Wellemeyer isn't THAT bad.  He is making some boneheaded mistakes but he does seem to minimize damage well.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

his coutn is still behing
hirsh
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is this?
A jumble?
Everybody off the bandwagon!

by Alxfritz on May 31, 2007 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

way to make the guy work
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

So follows w/ a 9-pitch AB
The guy's pitch count is getting up there.

by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya that was a good ab by
so and kennedy earlier too
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

So
has been making the best of his playing time lately...

by El Hombre on May 30, 2007 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the pace we're at...
I wish they'd work Wellemeyer's pitch count a little...

by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

in case you missed it
dice k got k od..for all that hype im not impressed..yet
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

wow
these announcers (maybe it's just one of them) seriously can be jackasses.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 30, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I love his sense of entitlement
You are the announcer for the Colorado Rockies.  You haven't EARNED anything yet.  I'm sure you had a sparkling career that we should all be impressed with and such is why you speak with such authority on EVER aspect of the game.
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

mr clutch
ortiz..didn't deliver with bases juiced???
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

He's Mr. Clutch
And Chris Shelton is Mr. April.  Since Shelton did really well (.326 .404 .783 1.187) over 92 AB's in that specific situation, I predict that he will continue to be Cow-steroided-Barry-Bonds-good in all Aprils.

It's the same logic used to anoint Ortiz as god of clutch.

Pujols < .300 (it worked for .200)

by joker24 on May 30, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on AP
he used to jack pitches like that, he threw the bat cuz he knew he shoulda hit that

by roscoe on May 30, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Rockies have some talent
Maybe there's something to this idea of building through your farm system.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on May 30, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

i wish our backup cathcer could hit
like that shpatchi guy or whatever his name is for the indians
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by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

you mean
our starting catcher, right?

by chuckb on May 30, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey,
what's he doing throwing a high fastball? Does Dave Duncan know about this?

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It's 95 - 96 mph
not 92-93 mph.

Dave thinks that is a-ok.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I think I like Wellemeyer
The whole pitch to contact dealy is apparently ignored when it comes to him.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 30, 2007 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, sweet Lord,
please send a plague on these Colorado broadcasters.
Their inane remarks (and trivial data) are giving me a severe stomach ache.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on May 30, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

humidor = time capsule
just awful.
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

they've got to be the worst in all of baseball
I'm not even sure it's close.  And George Frazier, tonight's guy, is better than Jeff Huson, who worked the previous 2 nights.

by chuckb on May 30, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rex Judler sucks too.
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on May 30, 2007 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudler
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on May 30, 2007 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling Edmonds is going
yard, next inning.  Let's hope it is for the lead and not to catch up.
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

um, wot's risfinitz?
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Risfinitz
Ridiculously
i
Straight
Fastballs
i
Not necesarily
In
The
Zone

by Zubin on May 30, 2007 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Rispnitz is better
Ridiculously
Straight
Pitches
Not necesarily
In
The
Zone

by Zubin on May 30, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 strikes Wellemeyer
Where is that nasty change sinker?
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

That'll work
what the heck was the ball girl doing sitting down in the LF corner?
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by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to go, Wellemeyer
he's got good stuff, I have to say.

by chuckb on May 30, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Just trying to get Holliday and Helton
out of the way.  No sense in facing them in the 4th if you can do it in the 3rd.

by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

That's #2, I think
He hasn't lost all his speed, but more importantly, Steve Finley has.

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed one?
He averages about 2 per year. Guess he's done then...

by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love to see
all that cardinal red right behind home plate. we've sure got this country covered. (although the Yankees have the rest of the world)

by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

From Will Carroll
at baseball prospectus, on Chris Duncan --

"Watch the injury to Chris Duncan. There may be more here than reported currently, and I'm working on something, hopefully for tomorrow. ... "

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6289

Doesn't sound promising

by chuckb on May 30, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

MV3! MV3!
Edmonds and Rolen. Nice.

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

wft?
Maybe I should've made that trade for Rolen on my fantasy team last week after all.

Let keep 'em coming, boys.

Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

by the way
my acronyms seem to be dyslexic tonight.
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scotty
not pop up...
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Ditto for Rolen
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on May 30, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

MV3! MV3!
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

has anyone else noticed
that the Rockies announcers that apparently are geniuses have yet to notice that half of the fans at each of these games have been Cards fans?
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 30, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

oh boy
and yet again the name "en-car-nacion" is completely botched.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 30, 2007 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim and Scott must have gone
for option #5 in Valatan's post.  Suddenly they're back in 2004.

by enoscountry on May 30, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

can we trade instant breakfast
for a bag of used balls... please??
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Instant Breakfast
Anybody else listening to the radio?

Even Shannon and Rooney are ripping on Juan.  The man has no friends.  ;o)

"Not only did he fail, it looked like he didn't even try."  --Mike Shannon

by cardsgirlinAR on May 30, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

From Shannon's mouth...
to Walt's ears....

(ew, that play on a cliche could sound really gross...but I'm sharing it anyway)

by cardsgirlinAR on May 30, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

way to go Poppy
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

82 pitches for Hirsch
If we can get to him with the top of our lineup, the next inning might be his last.
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

We're hitting him well
I say let Hurdle ride him through 8, regardless of ER or PC.
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was mentioned earlier
about Duncan's injury maybe being more serious than first described.  If Duncan goes on the DL, it might force their hand w/ Ankiel.  I don't see any other options for an everyday OF at this point, unless they're content to bring up Schumaker and let So play every day.

by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

So is way too valuable as a bench player
so bring up Ankiel. Problem is, if he comes up, he stays up.

So he better start every day.

Except against lefties, of course.

by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Duncan goes to the DL
there isn't anyway around not bring up Ankiel.  Skip has played well, but I think Ludwick goes down (does he have options?) and Ankiel stays up when Duncan comes back.
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where does Ankiel play
when Duncan comes back then?

He seems like a natural RF. Bench Juan.

Albert!!!!!

by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

J-Rod should be the guy
Ankiel needs time to develop.
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on May 30, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If JRod could stay healthy
that would make sense.  But he hasn't played since May 18 and hasn't done more than PH since the 9th.  His rate stats are pretty good but he's only got 83 RBI on the year.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=John%2520Rodriguez&pos=&sid=milb&a mp;t=p_pbp&pid=431138

by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, sweet Lord,
even the commentary from the dugout is boring!!!!
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on May 30, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow
Are they actually discussing how they chew sunflower seeds?  How have we already lost two games to these dorks?

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was OUT
i don't care that he "went hard up the line" or that you were wrong when you thought he was safe. he wasn't. please shut up.
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a good inning
for Cy Wellemeyer.

Ha.  Yeah right.

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

FSN Mountain
is damn impressed with their slo-mo technology.  They use it every chance they get.
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Cubs getting pounded
9-0 in the 9th against the Fish.
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I would love to see
1st and 3rd for Pujols with none out here.
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll take 1st and 2nd too
Just don't have 1st open for Pu!  Here's his chance for a big 3-run bomb!
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

be right back
I need to go buy a lotto ticket before the grocery store closes.
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, pujols...
finally swung on a first pitch, grooved fastball.

by longhornscardinals on May 30, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

MV3! MV3!
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAMMIY!
Estimated distance?
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

if only they were able to replicate these results
Oh well. My heart is happy for one night.
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

MV3! MV3!
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a GREAT inning!!
4 runs in, 0 outs

I cannot remember the last time this happened.

Back-to-back on 2 straight pitches (both first pitches too!)

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

JIMMMMMMMYYYYYY!!!!!!!
BASEBALLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on May 30, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

humidor's broken
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Fine by me
As long as they get it fixed by the bottom of the 5th :)
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just got
really worried about your cigars for a second. =)

by davethebutcher on May 30, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

so
albert gets to hti with runners on...no way
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

hustlin' juan!
America's scrappiest outfielder!

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Juan
with the 2 bag hustle. Nice.

by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

OK
Even Juan is getting in on the action.  This just may be our night.
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Freakin
Holliday Inn.

Defying the greatness that could be Gary Bennett.

What was with that scared fan in the slo-mo?

by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Shannon
about busted a nut trying to push snocone's ball over the glove.

by enoscountry on May 30, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Bennett robbed.
Fooey.
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

how deep
was bennets fly..if itwas as deep as it said on gamecast y not juan tag?
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

didn't think Holliday was gonna catch it....
it was a bomb, that somehow managed to not get over the fence.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on May 30, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Hardcore
How would Reyes be doing right about now with a FIVE run lead?
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

oh brother
we aregonna see this alot, depends on how many runs he'd given up
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a Reyes apologist
But you have to find the humor in the fact that the offense never produced for the guy and his spot in the rotation comes up for the first time after getting sent down and we put at least 8 up through 5.
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I think it's pretty obvious
Anthony Reyes = The Cooler.
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure
what ya mean by that
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The movie
with William H. Macy
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah
not catching the reyes connection isnt the cooler where he like controls a casino like a bouncer or something?
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh My God Hardcore
You know, that's been my nickname for Encarnacion since April of last year.  
Acquire Rocco Baldelli!

by the red baron on May 31, 2007 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya irony
but again how many runs would he have given up? Maybe the 2 on the board quickly would have made a difference, maybe not...maybe he would have gone 7 maybe he'd go 5.3
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 and a third
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out(s) recorded?
Dude, how close to going out was Bennett's fly ball there? According to gameday it landed in a parking lot.

by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

No clue...
how that stayed in the park. Seriously, he destroyed that ball. Got robbed by Holliday a bit (wasn't a Duffy/chavez-esque rob, but it was a nice little leap at the wall.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on May 30, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't a HR
trick camera work made it look like it was going to hit the scoreboard.  They put the '2-Run Homerun Gary Bennett' logo on the screen but it wasn't getting over the wall.

Think Willie Mays Hayes.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

it crossed
top-of-the-wall level like eight or ten inches before the wall.

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

a hahahahahahahaha
five razors with a hit.

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

omigoodness
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

wow
at this point i think we're using up too much karma. game's over boys, let's save some of this for the next one.
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Hirsh is D-U-N
3 cheers for batting around!
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

and hirsh
is apparently taking one of thos eman Marquis things...he's at 103
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

there we go!
"HINDENBURG AT THUH PLAYTE ... HE RRRIPS ONE THROUGH THE INFIELD. OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS. OF AWL THE DRAMATIC THINGS I HAVE EVUH SEEN. OH THE HUMANITY."
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Astros just lost their 10th straight
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

In other news...
Stros loose their 9th (or is it 10th now?) in a row.  Cubbies down 9 runs in the 9th.. Things might seem a little less glum around here tommorow if the ole codgers could hold on and win this one.

Izzy should be rested.. when is the last time he pitched with a lead?  Two weeks?

by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Brewers lost too
earlier today against the Braves.

by Petkovsek on May 30, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Copy that for the Pirates.
Cards and Reds may be the only ones to post a W today.

by cloistermaximus on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the heck
is with all these bunts? Is John McGraw managing the Rockies?

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

hey, remember, it's colorado
bunting is the only way to score.
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hardcore
what do you mean anthony is the cooler?
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The movie
with William H. Macy and Alec Baldwin.

Reyes is the Cooler for this team's offense, apparently.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah
i get it now. Ya i think he should have at least 3 or 4 wins but how can we really tell...He has had his own set of struggles non-related to the offense
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it me
or is Wellemeyer using the exact same approach Reyes should?

A ton of fastballs, everywhere in the zone, and changeups when you get ahead.

... and no curveballs.

by DanUpBaby on May 30, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

welly could be done
after5 so as much as we have mentioned reyes tonight thats reyes esque
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Only* at 76 pitches as of now
* He is a reliever though, don't know if TLR wants to push him to 100.  But he started in the minors, seems to be doing well, especially after the first.
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but
if this wasn't his first start, he'd definitely go at least one more, considering he's only at 76 pitches.

by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think FSN Rocky Mtn
is letting the intern run the broadcast booth... very bizarro screen graphics
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

If we hold this 6-run lead
And God help us if we don't, we pick up a game on everybody above us in the standings.  We did that twice last week too.
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

even clint hurdle
sounds like he can't believe how stupid these broadcasters are.
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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Last time
we played the Rockies on a Wednesday, we scored big.  Remember, lots of churches have mid-week services on Wed., so that makes it as good as a Sunday.  

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Jimbo
show 'em there's not doubt that you're back
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on May 30, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Thr Rox cameraman can bite me
..s/he made it look like he hit a 450 ft bomb to dead center.
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on May 30, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

the look on martin's face
fooled me.  He spun around like he thought it was gone too.

(i was rooting for a double to give him a legit chance at the cycle).

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we pitch to him because??????
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on May 30, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Just so everyone knows
Reyes went 5 innings or more with 3 runs or less *5* times.

And twice he went 6 innings with 4 runs.

For you math majors, thats 7 of his 9 starts.

by TICY on May 30, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

and?
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's trying to say that reyes' 6+ ERA
wasn't as bad as it sounds because he didn't go deep into games, so he only gave up a few runs/appearance.

Not sure it really works that way.

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

several on here
have broke down his #'s, and 4 walks in 5 innings is not good. a run an inning is not great either...however i do agree that he should have a few wins, but no more than 5 at the most
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And...
people are creaming themselves over this great start. My point is what everyone who hates this move is. Why move a guy from the 'pen and destroy a kids confidence when we are praising the same results from someone else?

by TICY on May 30, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

see your point
but i dont see many praising this start...i htink they should have stuck with reye personally.
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

wheneverholliday
hits they should play Holiday by Madonna, but the sad version by adam sandler in the weding singer
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 30, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Alex Rodriguez, if things weren't already bad for
him, on a popfly hit by a Yankees hitter, yelled 'Its' mine' while in the basepaths.  The 3rd basemen and SS both backed away and the ball dropped in for a hit.

Have to imagine he catches a lot of heat for that.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Like knocking the ball
out of the pitcher's glove when he's trying to make a tag on him in the first base line?

Let's hope so.

by player2bnamedl8r on May 30, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I leave to go eat a late dinner
and the Cards go batshitcrazy and score 8 runs. ON A WEEK NIGHT. I come back, and holliday hit's a home run.

needless to say, I'm gone again till the game's over. see everyone after the game.

peace.

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 30, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks, guys,
for actually showing some of the ballgame during your EXCITING and informative conversations
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on May 30, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

It was so bad
that I switched to Gameday Audio.  Much better listening to Mike and John call the back-to-back homers by Albert and Jimmy, but I would have liked to have seen them hit it out.  Oh well, I can watch the highlights later.  

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Audio
I tried opening the gameday audio in firefox, while watching the game in IE. Then just turn the volume off on the video. It worked until I realized the video is on delay. The audio is a full pitch ahead. Kind of takes the excitement out of watchign when you know what is about to happen.

by paCardsFan on May 31, 2007 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Juan E's out now
I wonder if we could possibly try to start a game with our entire bench unavailable to play...

by CardFaninVA on May 30, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Franklin
His Gameday mug shot makes him look like one bad dude.

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Checking back in
FiveBlades (I'm stickin to the name damnit) proves that he is in fact a breathing major league pitcher, the MV3 have another one of their seemingly randomly distributed collectively good games, and Encarnacion hustles.  Could we please have the energy from this game on the field and not the lifeless bunch of hacks that have been out there?

Pujols keeps inching to .300 but not punching through damnit.  If for nothing else, do it for my fantasy team Albert.

Pujols < .300 (it worked for .200)

by joker24 on May 30, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

after i wanna say sundays game
pujols was a .302, only to go 0-6ish after that.

by longhornscardinals on May 30, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about some love for So?
That was a nice piece of defensive play
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by RosevilleRedbird on May 30, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet!
Way to turn a DP, So!  Guess he still has something left as a defender.  

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan Ludwick bomb?
"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

from sunflower seeds to facial hair
and the broadcasters think baseball players are crazy????

How about the director who thinks their conversations are broadcast worthy?

"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on May 30, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

apparently the fact that
todd helton hasn't shaved yet is "THE MOST AMAZING THING" about the rockies' season thus far.

i mean, i'm sorta speechless, if that's number one on the list.

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by nycbirdo on May 30, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

anybody noticed
that lidge looks good again lately?

by longhornscardinals on May 30, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Albert
will get a chance to change that soon.

by cardsgirl95 on May 30, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yikes
i was all ready to shout curse words at my television if that carried out.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 30, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

TJ finally got Hawpe out
but just barely.

Still better than a bases loaded walk.

by enoscountry on May 30, 2007 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

i think itd be funny
to see edwards hit for the cycle. he's one of the last guys i would think of to hit for the cycle. then again, so is john mabry.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 30, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Some BCB postings from earlier today
no way in hell Cards win
they have Todd Wellemeyer going as a starter!

by Chanman25 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 at 7:18 PM CT

20 bucks says wellemeyer would shut us out today

by CubsBall2202 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 at 7:24 PM CT

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 30, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

RE: Lidge
Maybe we could trade for him and make him a starter too?
The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 30, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow
Bon Jovi is used as rally music in Denver.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 30, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

that's a winner!
Larry Walker for hitting coach!

by effin fisk on May 30, 2007 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to go Izzy
The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 30, 2007 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Izzy is the
Bionic man... better...stronger...faster.

They should play the music when he comes out. It's like a whole new guy.

by Harknights on May 31, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

He's throwing straight fastballs again
it's like 2002 vintage Izzy, minus a few miles an hour.

by DanUpBaby on May 31, 2007 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

i had to be #300...
and congratulate Wellemeyer

felicidades welly! eres bueno!

www.royalsreview.com

by Freneau on May 31, 2007 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Chris Duncan update
"If this doesn't go away, then this is kind of scary, to keep getting infections like that," La Russa said. "We're concerned. This has got to be more than just a temporary fix. I guarantee it's going to get heavy professional attention and expertise."

[...]

"Barry [Weinberg, head athletic trainer] talked to him today and he's doing much better," Jocketty said. "I think Barry wants him to continue to stay off his feet, let it continue to heal. It's kind of a freaky thing. ... If they determine in the next day or so that he's not going to get back for a while, then we'll consider something."

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070530&content_id=1995529&vkey=news_mlb&fext=. jsp&c_id=mlb

He is getting better, that is a good thing.  I don't know much about this kind of injury but from what the missus has told me about a friend that had such an injury in their elbow, they had to get like 4 surgeries to finally correct it.

I say, put him on the DL for 15 days and let it heal right.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

learn from the pitching staff
sit him and dl him now
now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 31, 2007 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

good lord
if they screw up Baby Dunk I swear us fans should do something to get the entire med staff fired. I'm sick of them effin up our players. what's it going to take for the owners to see they have the WORST med staff in the history of major league baseball?

much liter note, great win tonight. shocked wellemeyer didn't crap his own bed. did Dave work him magic again? don't know. only saw a few batters. MV3 finally put together a good game. we all needed that badly. still, it's only one game. don't get too high about this. don't get too low. see if they can put together a few more like it in a row. then it will be time to get excited.

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 31, 2007 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just keep him away
from Paletta. Otherwise, he might end up losing the leg...

by cardsrul on May 31, 2007 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have some experience with this
If it's JUST bursitis, 1) it'll never go away fully, and 2) it won't really get worse.  I also don't think it can be healed with surgery in a way that will let him remain a major league baseball player, but I could be wrong.  I know they told me that surgery on mine would end my college wrestling career.

I had severe bursitis issues starting in my senior year in high school and then all through college.  Mine was caused by repetitive stress on the kneecap from driving into the mat while wrestling; I'd have between 50 and 80 (ml/cc/whatever the units were) of nasty pink fluid drained every other week or so.  The dude who drained them (same guy who did my ears) thought it was hilarious.  I still have problems if I try to run too far or spend the day scrubbing my bathroom or something, though the swelling does go down by itself after a week or so if you stay off it.

The swelling itself is really weird because the knees don't actually hurt when swollen, other than a kind of annoying achiness, kind of like shin splints; the swelling mostly made them numb, and then when the fluid is drained it feels like the leg is asleep for about an inch above and 2 inches below the bottom of each kneecap.  I never needed anesthetic.  The only time it really hurt was right after getting a cortisone(?) shot, but I can only remember that happening a couple of times.  I'd be unable to run or even ride a bike for a day or two after one of those, but it would stop the swelling for a long time.

As far as "additional injury" goes, the numbness is what you really have to watch out for (at least that's what the therapists and doctors told me).  The bursitis itself was just an annoyance as long as it didn't break the sac, which was "pretty much impossible to do" according to my doctor, but the numbness could lead to a different injury in the same way that a twisted ankle can cause a torn hamstring or a broken ankle if you favor that leg while running.  

If he actually broke his bursae sac then that is something way beyond what I had, but i beat the crap out of mine while swollen up and never had that happen so I doubt it is the case.  if it is, he'll probably be out a while, if it's not he should be in the lineup by the weekend imho.

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 31, 2007 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I love this blog
For the love of god where am I going to get more detailed information about swollen Bursa sacs?
Pujols < .300 (it worked for .200)

by joker24 on May 31, 2007 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be damned...
a good start from Wellemeyer, plenty of offense...jeez, you'd think these were the Birds of old. It probably won't last, but I love these guys regardless. They ARE giving it their all, and it means a lot to me. If the Central weren't so bad, this would be ridiculous.

by rockin redbird on May 31, 2007 2:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't like
Wellemeyer. The pick up, the move to the rotation... it all stunk. But then he goes and gets his photo taken at glamor shots and totally redeems himself.

How can I be mad at that guy?

Everybody off the bandwagon!

by Alxfritz on May 31, 2007 3:54 AM EDT reply actions  

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