all's wells . . .
let's get the important news out of the way first: it don't look so good for carpenter's elbow. as one poster put it in a recent thread, the elbow doesn't swell up for no reason. ever hopeful, the organization is now latching on to the fact that the swelling is behind the elbow, rather than directly on the joint, as some sort of positive sign. more encouraging is the fact that carpenter has yet to report pain while throwing; he reportedly threw with full velocity in his saturday side session and had decent command of his pitches, something that wouldn't be possible if the ligament had torn.
whatever's ailing him, it's more serious than a mere blip. but it's not necessarily --- not based on current information, anyway --- the end of his, and the cardinals', season. might be that he misses a month or two; could the cardinals survive that? in this division, maybe so.
assuming carpenter will be out for at least two more starts, who takes his place in the rotation? it has been suggested that blake hawksworth might get the call; he threw 5 shutout innings vs the cardinals in the march 30 exhibition at memphis; couple that with his 6 spring training innings in the major-league camp (2 runs allowed) and he had a spring era of 1.64 vs big-league competition --- but he only struck out 2 players, which suggests he might have a bit left to learn. although he is 24 years old, hawksworth has only thrown 80 innings above class A, and zero above double A (not counting spring training); his numbers were good but not dominating last season. seems premature to throw him in there against a major-league lineup.
if not him, then who? options:
- narveson, keisler, or ginter: all have a smattering of big-league experience; all might manage to beat replacement-level performance (ie, post an era of about 5.00), but i don't think any is likely to do significantly better than that. ginter did hang in there three seasons ago for 14 starts for the mets and posted a 4.64 era. however, of these three guys, only keisler would be available to fill carp's vacant slot on tuesday; ginter pitched yesterday at memphis and wouldn't be available until friday, and narveson pitched on saturday and wouldn't be available until thursday.
- franklin or thompson: franklin, the most logical choice, appears to be the only player la russa trusts to protect a lead in the 8th inning; he's the main setup man, hence out of the running. that leaves thompson, who's off to a slow start but still probably is a better option (certainly no worse) than narveson, keisler, or ginter. there's plenty of bullpen depth at triple A to cover thompson's defection, should he move to the rotation --- falkenborg and jimenez both have 2+ years of triple A experience (the former also has 30+ innings in the big leagues), and either can probably take over a middle-relief job without much (if any) of a step down. unless tony/dave are still holding out hope that thompson can pitch himself into the setup role --- a dubious proposition, imho --- he's the guy i'd go to first.
he got off to a very shaky start ---- 19 balls in 36 pitches over the first two innings --- but settled right in after the cards went up 3-0, hitting the strike zone for 38 of his final 54 pitches. put another way, he threw more balls in the first 2 innings than he did in the last 5 innings combined. his fastball was consistently 93-94 mph with movement; the astros' best strategy against it was to take, as he missed the strike zone with it nearly half the time (43 percent). wells threw 28 fastballs for strikes, and the astros only put 6 of those pitches into play --- only 1 of which left the infield, ausmus' bloop hit in the 2d inning.
but his best pitch yesterday was the slider, which was strike three on 4 of wells' 7 ks; the astros chased it out of the zone half a dozen times. it comes in hard, 84 to 87 mph, and breaks sharp and late; must be very difficult to square up. the astros swung at that pitch 14 times and only put it into play 4 times, all for outs; their swings were more likely to result in a miss (5 times) than a ball in play (4).
can't end the post without a nod to Hardcore, who predicted albert's big day yesterday morning. for his career, pujols is now 10 for 19 on easter with 5 hr, 10 rbi.
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narveson
Wells
Effectively wild...
Look, Carp has great "stuff" too and sometimes he has problems with command. I'm pretty optimistic that LaDuncan will get Wells' command on track.
Wells definitely...
Hmm
One thing to consider when talking about who will take Carpenter's spot in the rotation. When Mulder went down last season and Reyes filled in, the result was that the Cards swapped a solid 6 to 7 inning a start pitcher for one who could consistently get through 5 innings, meaning the pen had to cover the "missing" innings. In the rotation now, Carpenter was the only starter who I felt certian could go 6 to 7 innings a start. Depending on the learning curve Wainwright may become that, depending on healt Wells may as well. Looper, as he showed the other night) tires after 80 pitches and Reyes will need to improve before loosing the tag of a 5 inning guy.
So where does this leave the pen? Last season, the increased innings burden wore out the pen. The Cards need to choose carfuly who will fill in for Carpenter to try and both leave the pen as strong as possible and to choose someone who can get 6 inning a start. Hawksworth doesn't seem like that guy. Maybe Thompson, though having two long guys in the pen (Hancock and Thompson) maybe important for awhile. I would probably go with Narveson or Keisler.
Spot start by committee
I read somewhere WJ flew to Memphis Sunday morning. So maybe they're working on a spot start by committee, alternating the pitchers overthere. The guy that pitches better can stick longer, getting a second start...
OTOH, what happens to the Memphis pitching when somebody is called up? Is someone else called up from Springfield? Thanks in advance for any illustration.
either mike parisi or chris lambert
Wells and the Astros
I couldn't help but thinking over the weekend that watching the Astros is like looking at the Cardinals in the mirror. Decent starting pitching with one stud at the core; very questionable offense with a couple of core guys as the key (Pujols/Rolen/Edmonds vs. Berkman/Lee); less than certain bullpen (although I feel better about Izzy than Lidge at this point!). Their lineup is anything but scary - and I'm not sure pitchers fear our lineup if they can pitch around Albert.
I was psyched with Wainwright and Wells performance over the weekend, but I think we need to see it against better offensive teams to make more confident judgment about their expected performance this year. On that point, I did think that Wells did pretty well against the Mets, who were on fire the first week of the season.
We are similar in many respects
wow
Slingbox
by BozCardsFanSF on Apr 9, 2007 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
A very good question.
by BozCardsFanSF on Apr 12, 2007 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It scares me
Wells Yesterday...
by STLCardinalsFan on Apr 9, 2007 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
ah, you beat me to it
Thompson
Until WonderBrad can prove that he's ready to step up and seize an important role when it's available, I don't see him in the rotation, as a setup guy, or any other vital situation.
by the red baron on Apr 9, 2007 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm glad it's keisler
Good stuff on Wells
As for Keisler, a pretty good choice -- he's left-handed and pitched well this spring, plus he got a little pissy when he didn't make the team. It's a good time to see if he's going be able to help us should we need him for 6 or 20 starts! His mouth adds a little pressure to this start!
Play nine innings
Play nine innings....play nine innings....hmmmm....where have I heard something like that before?
Pirates Home Opener
SI power rankings
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/john_donovan/04/09/power.rankings/2.html
The guy ranks the Cards at 27th... and then says "So, in a way, a 2-4 start with no quality starts is meeting expectations."
I guess Wells shouldn't have allowed that hit yesterday?
By my count we are at 4 quality starts in 6 games?
by redbird2006in on Apr 9, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions
I saw that too
Also...key members of the rotation. I'll give you Suppan was key all year and Weaver was in the playoffs. But that's it. Ponson/Regular season Weaver and Marquis are not exactly my idea of "key members of the rotation".
by themang on Apr 9, 2007 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Key Members
What a crock of shit
What about
Just use a AAA guy for a starter
by redbird2006in on Apr 9, 2007 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's the Moonman?
What's up with Shannon, and when's he coming back?
by martin on Apr 9, 2007 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
I listen to a lot of play by play
Horton
I don't get what people have against Horton, I've always liked what he has to say.
I like Horton too
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 9, 2007 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Put me in the Pro-Horton camp
"...and he sliiiides into second with a stand up double!"
But I'll take Horton over EVERYONE else I've heard. He's much sharper than most of the tools in the broadcast shed.
Ya gotta remember,
Old Gameday Link?
old gameday link
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2006/gd.html?2007_04_09_slnmlb_pitmlb_1&brand=mlb
They can make his DL retroactive to April 2nd.
For what it's worth
by Big Red on Apr 9, 2007 5:34 PM EDT reply actions



















