25-year roster
ah, blessed off-day. the sunday bats did their work, and the cards won a series from the cubs. hallelujah, amen.
i don't know about you, but i could use a break. so rather than dissect a game that truly speaks for itself --- the wind blew out, a buncha runs scored, our team scored more --- i'm gonna just goof around with this exercise somebody unveiled at the new MLB Trade Rumors Reader Blog. i'll let the author speak for himself:
Easy? Sure, except:
- I took only one player per year.
- Once I used a player, he couldn't be used again (e.g. only one Dwight Gooden)
- The player really needed to have the position he's in -- so I couldn't put Todd Hundley as a backup catcher or use John Olerud off the bench.
- Your rotation's order has to be reasonable. That's not really hard, but whatever.
before i dive in, let me note that a VEB community member already has posted his own 25-year cardinal team over at MLBTRRB, which you'll find here. lotta overlap between his roster and mine; some of these calls are no-brainers. i started building my team with the two no-brainiest seasons of all, the cardinals' single best pitching and hitting seasons of the period:
- tudor 1985. the 6th-best single-season era in franchise history --- and one of only two sub-2.00 marks (along with gibson's 1.12 in 1968) since world war II. since you can only take one player from each year, tudor knocks an mvp (willie mcgee) out of the running.
- mcgwire 1998. maybe he cheated a little, but you could disqualify a quarter of his homers and he'd still hold the franchise single-season record for home runs. since you can only have one 1st baseman, mcgwire's selection at 1st base removes from contention the only other cardinal mvp of the last 25 years: pujols 2005. after just two choices, both mvps are out.
- pujols 2003. arguably his best season anyway: career highs in batting average, on-base percentage, doubles, runs scored, and ops+. he played left field --- adios lonnie smith, vince coleman, ron gant, and latter-day ray lankford. this choice also bumps out edgar renteria's 2003 campaign, the best season by any cardinal shortstop of this era: 100 rbis, gold glove, averages of .330 / .394 / .480.
- carpenter 2005. the only cy young season of the entire 25-year span. he's in.
- morris 2001. franchise's highest win total of the last 25 years, finished 3d in the cy young, and had two memorable duels with curt schilling in the nlds. that was the postseason that made schilling a star; if morris had just made a better pitch to reggie sanders in game 5, we might have been spared the whole cult of curt. . . . . by the way, morris's rookie season (1997) is nearly identical to '01 in every respect except the win total. this selection trumps one of our best available 2b seasons, fernando vina's .303 / .357 / .418 line (plus gold glove). other worthy 2001 seasons lost are steve kline's extraordinary LOOGY year (240 era+), darryl kile's last season, and jd drew's 1.027 OPS, the best in franchise history for any right fielder not named musial.
- tewksbury 1992. fourth-best era since WWII, second-best of the last 25 years; also the 2d-best strikeout/walk ratio of the period (tewksie trumped himself the following year). this pick knocks out a pretty good candidate for the bench, geronimo pena (.305 / .386 / .478 in part-time duty) and two phenomenal setup-man seasons, mike perez (9-3, 1.84 era in 93 innings) and todd worrell (2.11 era, .198 opponent avg).
- rolen 2004. both rolen and edmonds had their best year in 2004, so this is quite the tug of war. edmonds had more homers and far better rate-stat figures, and he played a more demanding defensive position, but rolen wins in a backhanded way: the dropoff to his 2d-best season is much steeper than the dropoff to edmonds' 2d best. he's a worthy selection: this is the only 1.000+ OPS season in franchise history by anybody who didn't play outfield or first base.
- edmonds 2000. he had a higher OPS+ in 2002, but i chose this year for a few reasons: 1) it's one of the two best single-season hr totals by a left-handed hitter in franchise history (edmonds tied his own record in 2004); 2) jim's 129 runs rank as the franchise's 5th-highest total since world war II; and 3) there's another guy from 2002 who i want on the team.
- ozzie 1987. you can't have two starting shortstops; it's either edgar or ozzie. smith never had a year as good as renteria's 2002, but his 1987 is arguably the best hitting season in franchise history by any non-renteria shortstop. his OPS that year (.775) is one that we'd kill to have out of our right-fielder in 2007. ozzie finished 2d in the mvp polling and won the gold glove (of course). i'll freely admit that this is not the best shortstop season available, but i don't care; you can't have an all-cardinal team of the last 25 years that doesn't include ozzie smith.
very quickly:
- jordan 1996. there aren't many good right-field seasons to choose from, and i've already disqualified the best ones (most notably jd drew's 2001 season). george hendrick had a year similar to this one for the 1982 world titlists, but jordan had more power, better speed, and a better glove.
- porter 1983. cards haven't had a good-hitting catcher since simmons.
- delino deshields 1997. not so hot with the glove, but the guy could hit --- 51 extra-base hits and 55 steals. how on earth did he fail to score 100 runs?
- deshields 2b: .295 / .357 / .448, 55 sb
- pujols lf: .359 / .439 / .667
- edmonds cf: .295 / .411 / .583, 129 runs
- mcgwire 1b: .299 / .470 / .752
- rolen 3b: .314 / .409 / .598
- jordan rf: .310 / .349 / .483, 104 rbi
- porter c: .262 / .363 / .431, 15 hr
- ozzie ss: .303 / .392 / .383, 43 sb
let me quickly fill out the rest of the team. my fifth starter is
- andujar 1982. since gibson, only 1 pitcher has thrown more innings than whacky jack's 268.2 in '82 (tudor threw 275 in '85). andujar's 2.47 era is the 4th-lowest post-gibson figure (bested by tudor, tewksbury, and joe magrane in 1988), and his adjusted era+ (147) was nearly as good as carpenter's in his cy young year (151). plus, he went 3-0 in the postseason, including a victory in the championship-clinching game.
- sutter 1984. he threw 122.2 innings --- about twice what a modern-day closer throws, and three-fourths of the way to qualifying for the era title --- with a 1.54 era. plus 45 saves.
- horton 1986. 2.24 era in 100+ innings.
- perez 1993. he was better in 1992, but tewksbury's got that year; '93 will do (7-2, 2.48 era, 7 svs).
- fossas 1995. gotta have someone from '95.
- dayley 1989. not necessarily his best season, but the '89 team had no standouts; he'll serve.
- terry 1991. subtract out his ibb's (14 of them !) and he had a 3:1 k/w ratio.
finally, here's my bench:
- oquendo 1988. not really a bench player --- he got over 500 plate appearances --- so i'm probably breaking the rules. but oquendo was the ultimate utility player that year. he didn't play more than 69 games at any one position but appeared at all 9 positions, even pitched 4 innings in a marathon game and should have become the first position player to earn a win since . . . . i don't know the hell who. he took the loss instead.
- marrero 2002. 18 homers and a .778 ops --- can't do much better than this for a backup catcher. eli started 15 games behind the plate and appeared in 44 games there, caught over 10 percent of the cardinals' innings.
- spiezio 2006. clutch player; unique season. best facial hair since hrabosky.
- lankford 1990. came up for the last month and a half, hit .286 / .353 / .452.
- dunston 1999. played everywhere on the diamond, put up nearly .800 ops in 150+ plate appearances.
- perry 1994. never liked him, but he hit .325 / .435 / .532 in nearly 100 plate appearances.
0 recs |
74 comments
Comments
Great post
by jfs on Apr 23, 2007 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
larussa '02
by nycbirdo on Apr 23, 2007 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
Plus he managed to navigate the Kenny Rogers Freakshow. I never in hell would have done what he did, but we got the ring so I guess it doesn't really matter.
TLR has a reputation for being unpredictable in-game, but there are certain tendencies he has that are observable over a month or a full season....he typically distrusts young players and favors the veterans, playing percentages and matchups, etc. I can't recall the exact moment when Tony pretty much just trashed the whole script and started managing by the seat of his pants, but it was beautiful to watch.
There's probably a Whitey season in there (obviously 82 would be a candidate) but I'm too young to remember much detail from the early 80s.
by nota bene on Apr 23, 2007 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday's game...
I missed the whole freakin game, but I was sure happy to peruse the box score afterwards.
You can view all the homers from the main website by clicking one of the media links towards the bottom of the page.
by cardzfanbub on Apr 23, 2007 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pujols HR was not to the back row of the bleachers
by sdrone on Apr 23, 2007 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thinking only about the lineup
by JMedwick on Apr 23, 2007 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey lboros -
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 23, 2007 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cause he had two first names
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 23, 2007 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just not my type of hitter
by lboros on Apr 23, 2007 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his '93 was pretty good too -
We'd take that now off the bench, eh?
(he's the hitting coach for the Cubs now)
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 23, 2007 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing to do with
by chuckb on Apr 23, 2007 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotation moves
Kip Wells and Braden Looper are being bumped up due to the off-day. That means the rotation will go:
Tues - Cincy - Wells
Wed - Cincy - Looper
Thurs - Cincy - Keisler
Fri - Cubs - Reyes
Sat - Cubs - Wainwright
Sun - Cubs - Wells
Mon - Brew - Looper
Tues - Brew - Keisler
Wed - Brew - Reyes
Offday
That sets up the rotation, if Carp isn't back by then for Wainwright, Wells and Looper to face off against Houston at home May 4-6.
Cards need to go 8-4 over these next 12 games and really make hay against the divisional teams ahead of them.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 23, 2007 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like using Keisler vs the Reds...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 23, 2007 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carpenter upday
"Cardinals ace Chris Carpenter, placed on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to April 2 with persistent swelling in his right elbow, has been increasing his rehab work and has reported no problems. "He's been working every day," manager Tony La Russa said. "So far, no setbacks. He's starting to amp things up little by little.""
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 23, 2007 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carp to begin interval throwing program Tuesday...
by silent_bob on Apr 23, 2007 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't go celebrating yet
"Though St. Louis right-hander Chris Carpenter will begin playing catch this week, there is still a strong suspicion among the Cardinals that he will need elbow surgery, which would likely sideline him until at least the All-Star break."
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6133
by chuckb on Apr 23, 2007 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gone for the year, promise.
by Glenn Brummer stole home on Apr 23, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Perez
by raisin on Apr 23, 2007 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunston?
by matt reeder on Apr 23, 2007 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
random thoughts on the 25 yr. team
- i'm impressed at the effort.
- it seems like you made it harder on yourself by tying yourself to the player's stats from that year. i didn't so much see that in the rules. maybe it was understood.
- i'm pretty sure that oquendo is not a cheating response in reality although perhaps in spirit. i'd argue that he was the ultimate utility player, a term that is frequently used interchangably with bench. however, the originator of the activity did indicate the bench player should be a "defensive replacement type." and oquendo certainly primarily started that year. although, if we take into account my earlier thought about tying yourself to the year or not, oquendo's career was largely "bench player"...
- if i were going to engage in this exercise, it'd have to be after the school year is out when i have the hours that you put in.
by sdesserman on Apr 23, 2007 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We did something like this...
One player picked per week, per team. Once a man was off the board, he was gone forever. You could pick any one of his years.
The team had to be made up of the standard positions you'd find on the team, and you had to take a player from each 5 year period starting in 1901.
Babe Ruth, of course, was the most popular player taken in the first round, but it was the team that nabbed Teddy Ballgame's 1941 campaign that won it all. That line is just SO FAR superior to anything that was put up 1941-1945 that it made the difference.
LOTS of good output from 1921-1930 to make up for whatever Babe year you wanted (1920, 1921, and 1927 all superior)
The other thing this little exercise did for us was to intimately familiarize ourselves with the greats of the game from the past. Well worth doing if you've got a group of guys and an offseason to kill.
by tinstl on Apr 23, 2007 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking ahead
Harang (4.37)
Arroyo (3.25)
Lohse (1.91)
Marquis (1.88)
Miller (10.54)
Zambrano (7.77)
Hopefully the bats can stay hot. A lot of decieving ERAs in there, a lot of good pitchers struggling, bad pitchers pitching over their heads and Wade Miller.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 23, 2007 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I read somewhere this morning
by chuckb on Apr 23, 2007 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Anyway, they're saying the next time they need a 5th starter it will probably be Angel Guzman...who's not that good either.
by Big Red on Apr 23, 2007 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact...
Also, Prior to have a scope performed on his elbow.
by Big Red on Apr 23, 2007 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Harang gets my vote for the dude -
Brrrrrrrrr - he UGLY!
(attach favorite AH photo here)
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 23, 2007 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we trade an entire farm team?
"Pujols is the best. He is my hero.. If I were traded, I'd like to play with him in St. Louis.."
Combine that statement with the Marlin's issues with paying a guy more than 10 dollars an hour, and it's at least intriguing.. You'd have to lock him into a huge deal though..
Just imagine having Pujols and Cabrera for the next decade or so... Even if the rest of the team went to hell they'd make for entertaining baseball. Don't get me wrong, I love Rolen at the hot corner, but Miggy is only 24 and kicks serious ass.
by CardinalFanatic on Apr 23, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just because
by cardsrul on Apr 23, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps...
by Timbo02 on Apr 23, 2007 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would
by Toddius396 on Apr 23, 2007 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also..
by CardinalFanatic on Apr 23, 2007 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That said..
by CardinalFanatic on Apr 23, 2007 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's not going to happen
Nobody thought we were going to come up with McGwire either....Jocketty is a magician sometimes....
by nota bene on Apr 23, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we trade an entire farm team?
stlfan
by stlfan on Apr 23, 2007 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quote
by tainter on Apr 23, 2007 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering it takes
Anyway, here ye be:
by Alxfritz on Apr 23, 2007 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it SI 2005 or 2006 that had Albert and Cabrera
Is Cabrera's free-agency year this year; is his deal up? We can dream, can't we?
A couple of other items, not necessarily on this thread.
Braden Looper has allowed runs in only three of his 26 IP (ran out of gas vs. NY in the sixth; first inning runs against Milwaukee (2) and Chicago (1). Let's hope he keeps using that little tailing sinker and getting a few cheap outs with it. And let's hope his arm doesn't fall off in, say, mid-June.
When was the last time St. Louis had TWO lefties throwing the way Flores and Johnson are right now? Wow.
Okay, this is my very first post; I'll quit now. Great board here, Larry, and the others make it even better.
by kwhiteside on Apr 23, 2007 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
comparing
by bigcardsfan5 on Apr 23, 2007 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Choice.
The guy hit something like .302/8/110 which we would all love to have on the team these days at 2B.
by STLCardinalsFan on Apr 23, 2007 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you still
by Toddius396 on Apr 23, 2007 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
by STLCardinalsFan on Apr 23, 2007 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herr
I'd venture to say DeShields and Herr have similar numbers in their given years (1985 and 1997) so either guy is acceptable to me.
by STLCardinalsFan on Apr 23, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, here's my 25 year roster:
1B - Mark McGwire (1998)
2B - Delino DeShields (1997)
3B - Fernando Tatis (1999)
SS - Ozzie Smith (1987)
LF - Albert Pujols (2003)
CF - Jim Edmonds (2004)
RF - Brian Jordan (1996)
BN - Dane Iorg (1982)
BN - Rex Hudler (1990)
BN - Chris Duncan (2006)
BN - Eli Marrero (2002)
BN - Gerald Perry (1993)
SP - John Tudor (1985)
SP - Bob Tewksbury (1992)
SP - Chris Carpenter (2005)
SP - Matt Morris (2001)
SP - Darryl Kile (2000)
CL - Bruce Sutter (1984)
RP - Ricky Horton (1986)
RP - John Costello (1988)
RP - Tony Fossas (1995)
RP - John Habyan (1994)
RP - Scott Terry (1991)
RP - Frank DiPino (1989)
by MarTeezy on Apr 23, 2007 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK
1998 Mark McGwire 1B 4
1997 Delino DeShields2B 1
1999 Fernando Tatis 3B 6
1987 Ozzie Smith SS 8
2003 Albert Pujols LF 3
2002 Jim Edmonds CF 5
2001 J.D. Drew RF 2
1990 Ray Lankford ut
1992 Geronimo Pena ut
1993 Brian Jordan ut
1994 Gerald Perry ut
2004 John Mabry ut
1982 Joaquin Andujar sp
1985 John Tudor sp
1988 Joe Magrane sp
2000 Rick Ankiel sp
2005 Chris Carpenter sp
1984 Bruce Sutter cl
1986 Ricky Horton rp
1989 Frank DiPino rp
1991 Scott Terry rp
1995 Tony Fossas rp
1996 Rick Honeycutt rp
2006 Adam Wainwright rp
After all of this I have to say...man our Catchers can not hit...at all!!! The new curse is the curse of Simba.
by Harknights on Apr 23, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weava and Church
By the way someone posted that Ryan church was lifted for non injury reasons and hoped it was a trade..it was for not hustling per their website
by punchinjudy on Apr 23, 2007 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lboros' 25-man roster
The pitching has a combined 1700+ IP, 122-55 record, 68 saves, 1.09 WHIP, 2.41 ERA, .237 BAA, 5.8:1.9 K:BB, over 1100 Ks, and under 375 BB.
The hitting has a combined 281 HR, 1041 RBI, 179 SB (53 caught), over 1000 Ks, but over 800 BB, a .300 avg .388 OBP, and .513 SLG for an OPS of .901 - as a team!
Yeah, I'm a big dork...but so are you because you are here anyway and just read all that.
stlfan
by stlfan on Apr 23, 2007 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AMAZING manny being manny quote
"I said, 'Manny, let me ask you something. I was just wondering why you get back in the batter's box after ball four.' He said, 'I don't keep track of the balls.' He said, 'I don't keep track of the strikes, either, until I got two.' Then he said, 'Duke, I'm up there looking for a pitch I can hit. If I don't get it, I wait for the umpire to tell me to go to first. Isn't that what you're paying me to do?'"
--Dan Duquette, former Red Sox GM.
by nycbirdo on Apr 23, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The amazing thing is...
He's the proof that just because you're good at baseball doesn't mean you know anything about baseball. Can you imagine him as a coach?
Well what should we do skip? Skip??
Oh sorry I had my ipod on...umm...hit the ball???
We are in the field skip.
Ohhhh. Then turn you're ipod up. That's what I would do.
Manny is like the Leroy Jenkins of baseball.
by Harknights on Apr 23, 2007 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LEEEEEEROYYYY JENKINS!!!!!
by Big Red on Apr 23, 2007 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't look now
The 1-6 record at home isn't going to stay that way, methinks....here's to a sweep of Cincy.
by nota bene on Apr 23, 2007 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Mather
by joker24 on Apr 23, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A 1480 OPS
by jfs on Apr 23, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He likes hitting 50+ HRs for sub .500 teams
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 23, 2007 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god their pitching is awful
if you're roger clemens and looking at what's going on in houston and the boogiedown, don't you just put your feet up and crack open a(nother) tall frosty one?
by nycbirdo on Apr 23, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You say to Big George
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 23, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-rod
by punchinjudy on Apr 23, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god i love BCB
i saw the 4-1 cubs lead and zambrano's pitch count and knew he wouldn't be in much longer, and that the cubs bullpen would blow the lead.
it's 4-4 and bcb posters have cursed out every relief pitcher, possibly including those who a) have not pitched in the game, b) are not and have never been cubs, c) do not exist.
they're just beside themselves at this point.
except mr. durden. he's giddy. he is also by far my favorite poster over there. fantastic work all around.
by nycbirdo on Apr 23, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 23, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have never been to their site
I personally love buck mulligans siganture " i don't care about a world series just stay competitive through September" now thats acompromise for your team..ouch Im glad my parents werent Cub fans cause then i would have been
by punchinjudy on Apr 23, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to give them credit though
by ortic jones on Apr 23, 2007 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but
Actually, it's not that bad if you're not in the bleachers, but yesterday there were two drunk asses sitting behind me whose vocabulary consisted of like 7 words each. With extra emphasis on two beauties, "SUCK" and something that starts with "F".
Classy, especially since right in front of me (two rows in front of them) was 3 kids ages 4 to 7.
by Big Red on Apr 24, 2007 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't look like that to me
by ortic jones on Apr 24, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their behavior is inexcusable
by Hollywood15 on Apr 24, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You misunderstood
Hell, I won't even go into the bleachers. Too old for that crap and I'm not even that old.
And as far as the F BOMB comment I made might have been a bit of an exageration. Although I was mostly referencing the Friday game against the Cards when Wilson hit the 2 run homer. It got ugly in there.
by Big Red on Apr 24, 2007 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank god
by nycbirdo on Apr 23, 2007 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Team... No coke, no 'roids, lots of bling.
C Tom Pagnozzi, 1994... Gold glove D easily compensates for a 94 OPS.
1B Pujols, 2006... A should-have been MVP with gold glove D. Take that Mark McGwire!
2B Ferando Vina,2001 another Gold Glove...
SS Ozzie, 1987, his best year
3B Rolen, 2004, easy pick
LF Edmonds, 2003, Can I do this? I assume the OF spots are fungible?
CF McGee, 1985
RF Ray Lankford, 1997, Again I assume OFers can play any spot within reason. This is my only non-GG
Pitchers... Well Considering who is behind them, I really only need 5 Jeff Suppans, but lets take a shot anyway...
SP1 Chris Carpenter, 2005.
SP2 Juaquin Andujar, 1982.
SP3 Joe Magrane, 1989.
SP4 Bob Tewksbury, 1992.
SP5 John Tudor, 1990.
CL Bruce Sutter, 1984
Bench
C/OF Eli Marreo, 2002
IF/OF/C Jose Oquendo, 1988
IF/OF Shawn Dunston, 1999
OF Brian Jordan, 1993
1B/PH Will Clark, 2000 (168 ops+ filling in for Mac!)
RHP Jeff Lahti, 1983
LHP Rick Horton, 1986 (A Met killer... loved him!)
RHP Scott Terry, 1991
LHP Tony Fossas, 1995
RHP T.J. Mathews, 1996
RHP Curtis King, 1998 (Need someone not named McGwire from that year)
by Zubin on Apr 24, 2007 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Batting Order
#Willie
Albett
*Jimmy
Scotty
*Ray
Tom
#Ozzie
by Zubin on Apr 24, 2007 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Halberstam Dies in a Car Accident
by PujolsFor President on Apr 24, 2007 2:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Roster...
Rotation....
1982 Andujar
1990 Tudor
1992 Tewksbury
2001 Morris
2005 Carpenter
Closer...
1984 Sutter
Lineup...
1985 McGee OF
1991 Ozzie SS
2003 Pujols OF
1998 McGwire 1B
2004 Rolen 3B
2002 Edmonds OF
1983 Herr 2B
1996 Pagnozzi C
Bullpen...
1986 Horton
1987 Dayley
1989 Dipino
1995 Fossas
1997 Frascatore
Bench....
1999 Castillo C
1994 Alicea MI
2000 W. Clark CI (I know he was a replacement more than a back-up, but still, great year)
1993 Perry OF
2006 Duncan OF
1988 Oquendo U/Secret Weapon
by The Nose on Apr 24, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs




















