Game 17 Open Thread: April 21, 2007
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through 6 innings yesterday, i was thinking how predictable the cardinals have been this spring. nearly every game's the same: they pitch pretty good, they don't hit, they're jekyll/hyde in the field. if they scrape a few hits together and score first, they generally hang on to win; fall behind early and they lose. the sense of anticipation that usually animates a ballgame --- the knowledge that anything can happen --- just hasn't been there.
novelty returned in the 7th, and another mind-numbingly bad day for the st louis offense turned into compelling baseball. there was wilson's wholly unexpected homer, reversing the lead; then the triple play that wasn't, which put me in mind of this two-year-old-post about a crazy 26-year-old play at busch II. there followed some determined pitching from looper, in a situation that he should have found very familiar --- a late-inning jam in a tight game, the type of situation he'd likely be called into in his old role as a setup man. but i never saw him clench his jaw in such situations last year the way he did yesterday. the confrontation with daryle ward was something; he attacked, pitched with anger, and blew the dude away. if he'd exhibited that type of mind-set as a closer, he never would have been moved out of the role.
then the cedeno play in the 9th --- anybody ever seen that one before? ah, unpredictability; maybe it will be worth watching this team after all.
Bleed Cubbie Blue's al yellon and i sent each other 5 questions about our respective teams. head over to BCB for my answers to his questions, which were:
- What's wrong with Albert Pujols? I was astounded to see him hitting .190 coming into the series.
- The Cardinals got a starting pitcher, Ryan Franklin, and made him a setup man. Then they took a setup man, Braden Looper, and made him a starter. Why?
- Are you worried about the Cardinals' lack of depth in the rotation? What can they do if Reyes or Wainwright or Looper fail?
- Jim Edmonds. Done?
- Which Cardinal's early-season performance are you most excited about?
1. Lilly, Marquis, and Hill all have stellar ERAs; Lee, Ramirez, and Floyd are all pounding the ball; DeRosa is tied for 3d in the league in home runs. How on earth can you guys be in last place?
I think you have seen part of the reason for this after Friday's game -- the Cubs are not a fundamentally sound team, making baserunning errors all over the place. The one in the 9th inning on Friday may have cost them a game. About the other things, Lee may be "pounding the ball", but he has yet to homer, and DeRosa's hitting in the .230's despite having four home runs.
The problems with fundamentals must be addressed, and immediately. Frankly, I'd make a statement by sending Ronny Cedeno back to Iowa right now.
2. Has Piniella made any decisions so far that Dusty wouldn't have made? If not, is Lou making a difference in other ways?
Lou has shown at least a desire to shake things up when lineups or other things aren't going well -- Dusty would have just said, "Bad day, dude" and kept trotting out the same lineup that failed, day after day after day. He's tried players at different positions -- Matt Murton played right field a couple of times, something he hadn't done since Double-A ball, and he's used Ryan Theriot at leadoff with Alfonso Soriano out.
So far it hasn't made a lot of difference in wins, but I think it will. The team's getting the message that the old ways aren't good enough.
3. A 7.77 era for Zambrano through 4 starts --- what's wrong with him?
Nothing. Z was 0-2 with a 5.35 ERA last April, then went 3-1, 1.90 in May. The only worrisome thing to me is that, like last year, he's still walking too many people. Before 2005, we used to say that Z was on if he'd get a lot of ground balls early. Now I think he's trying to throw the ball past everyone, which he can do, but sometimes he doesn't have his good command, and thus misses the strike zone too much.
4. Which Cub's early-season performance are you most excited about?
No question about it, Rich Hill. I was way down on Hill during his first couple of callups, when he seemed confused and unsure of himself. Something happened to him last May when they sent him down, and when he came back in August he was suddenly the dominant guy at the major-league level that he had been in Triple-A.
Whatever it was, it has carried over to his first three starts of 2007 -- an 0.41 ERA and 8 hits allowed in 22 IP, with a 3-0 record. If he can keep this up there will be All-Star buzz about him very soon. Love his approach to the game, and that curveball can be unhittable if he spots it well.
5. Who's a better hitter --- Marquis or Zambrano?
Z has more power, but all things considered, Marquis is a better all-around hitter. Lou has already used him as a pinch-hitter twice, and once as a pinch-runner in the 14th inning of last Tuesday's loss, after he ran out of position players. Lou said that had the Cubs tied the game, Marquis would have gone in as the first baseman. That would have been interesting!
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Future Redbirds is on hiatus today, but whiteyball has a full farm system report.
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Does anyone know how to get around
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 10:06 AM EDT reply actions
Not even using a proxy?
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and let the guy at BCB know that I have a DVD
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
I've seen yesterday's match...
GO CARDS!!!
Youneverknow....
Yep! Still the Cubs!
I thought
Same here and I'm more than
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in NC.....
No, it's bullshit
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um...
thank god jason marquis is gone - but i don't think this rivalry had anything to do with where he ended up.
all of which is to say, i can understand why yanks-sox is the top bill today.
hmm
FOX Coverage
They claim 31% get Cards-Cubs. 31% of land area, maybe, but not population.
I'm stuck with Yanks-Sox in Seattle too. We'd have to move to Colorado to get our beloved Cards.
by ColinMacLeod on Apr 21, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Reyes
6IP, 1ER, 5H, 1BB, 4K
Let's hang a snowman on Marquis. I think Jimmy gets his first dong today.
by jimmybaseball42 on Apr 21, 2007 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
I'm just excited to see him pitch on regular rest
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Tales From The Underbelly ...
Conversely, their team era of 3.17 is 3rd best.
Hats off to the pitchers (who happen to be good hitters too).
Batters - git bizzy
the offense
Jock is going to be looking for at least one bat in mid-season, and they've still got some $$$ to spend right? AFAIC they should just go ahead and make Duncan a full-time starter in left and see if they can trade Juan for either a better hitter or a better fielder, or sign a free agent in RF and trade Juan for a reliever or prospects or something....
Carp is out til ??, Wells is good, WW is good, Loop is a hell of a lot better than anybody expected, but he's not going to have a < 2.50 ERA all year, and we're still not sure how good Reyes really is over a whole season....Izzy is evidently back (hallelujah!) but does the rest of the bullpen look like the worldbeaters they suddenly became in October last year?
If we can just get AP and Rolen hitting again everything will be fine....
Hopefully a performance like he gave us......
Probably the fifth, though.
It depends
When he focuses and sticks to the game plan, he can be quite good. This may be one of those games.
by dontEATnachos on Apr 21, 2007 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
6 IP 2 ER 3 H 2 BB, W
Broadcast of Today's Game
you rule!
& there's another one where that came from if Pujols takes Marquis deep in the top of the first.
by redbadger on Apr 21, 2007 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Time to brush up on my espanol...
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 21, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The breakdown of FOX's games today:
1=Yankees @ Red Sox (HD) - 68% -- Joe Buck, Tim McCarver, Ken Rosenthal
2=Cardinals @ Cubs - 31% -- Kenny Albert, Joe Girardi
I'm sure almost 70% of the country is BoSox/Yinks fans.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
I'm even more sure
Lineups:
STL
- Eckstein SS
- Duncan LF
- Pujols 1B
- Rolen 3B
- Edmonds CF
- Wilson RF
- Kennedy 2B
- Bennett C
- Reyes P
- Pie CF
- Murton LF
- Lee 1B
- Ramirez 3B
- Barrett C
- Jones RF
- DeRosa 2B
- Cedeno SS
- Marquis P
Other than Bennett I like the lineup.
Marquis pinch hitting avg
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
it's just odd
bad baserunning
I pledge today
Not to compare Preston Wilson to Rob Deer
Not use So Taguchi's name to critize his game i.e " He is 'So' crappy a hitter."
Not to be surprised when I realize we should have kept the other pitcher named Reyes.
Not to refer to Izzy as Iffy in a save situation.
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
p-dub might suck at hitting
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
whose ready to beat the crap out of marquis!?!?!
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
classless
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
... and I pledge NOT to -
- Duncan has a ball hit off his head
- another one of those rally-killing double plays bails Marquis out of early trouble
- Reyes hits 100 pitches in the bottom of the 4th
bitch
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
alright jimmy
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
They're called homeruns.
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
good lay-off jimmy
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
26 pitch inning
People who can't see the game
hi i'm ryan dempster;
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
Joe Girardi
Card/Cubs is one of the best rivalries
Boston/New York
And they went out of their way to say what Jeter did in his at-bat.
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Watching Boston/New York
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
saladdin
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I get the feeling
get your
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
elevating
by raisin @ Viva El Birdos on Apr 21, 2007 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
marquis's pitching
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
Well that blows
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
Starts this year?
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You Know,
I would
Of course this is a felony...
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
This Yankees/BoSox game is going to get ugly
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
Yankees pitcher, you mean?
Yeah
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
by the red baron on Apr 21, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do Cubs CF'ers
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
kenny albert sucks
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
finally some hits...
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
Anthony can make up for the last inning
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
Had his chance
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice Catch
You know you haven't pitched deep
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
sacs, walks maybe
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Radio guys just said
Two former Cardinals whose hitting abilities I would describe as "standing their ground":
- Mike Matheny
- Eddie Gaedel
Matheny
Hard to beat that as "Standing in there."
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Any hope of Eckstein laying one down
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:33 PM EDT reply actions
they cant
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
Get the pen up
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
Infield in: 1 out in the 2nd inning
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
Why can't Reyes just throw the ball low?
i'm noticing a reoccuring theme this year
what kind of TV do you have?
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
NY/BOS GameBreak
Yup, no Cards/Cubs
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
When Albert gets knocked down or hit
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
man on 3rd w/one out
Yay, dunc!
Reyes
Two years later, he can't seem to get anybody out. Just absolutely cannot figure it out. I'm sure the way he's been handled hasn't helped matters, but it seems like all the things that made him a top flight prospect are gone. His velocity is good but not great, (not where it was at least) his changeup has taken a big step back, and his command isn't nearly as good as it used to be. If trying to change his style really did cause all of this, the Cardinals need to give up on the sinker experiment immediately. I don't know if that's the issue, though. Maybe he's just destined to be one of those guys who fizzles out at the major league level.
I'm still holding out hope for the Rich Hill career path.
Do you think
Pop out, Pop out
Best opportunity to score runs and they do nothing with it.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
play
pujols pops up cubs drop it and throw dunc out at second
rolen pops out
edmonds flys out
According to BCB
I would venture to say
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston/New York
They cut to A Rods at bat.
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not big on crying about the East Coast bias...
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
I'm Out, Everybody
Later.
My girlfriend
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You'll regret this!
Seriously, though. I'd kill to go climb on some rocks on a sunny Saturday afternoon.
Living in central illinois, the biggest change in elevation I routinely encounter is my driveway.
According to GameDay
2 consecutive popups to the infield
Then Rolen popped up to second and Lee was going way too far again and bumped into DeRosa....a split second later and I'm convinced DeRosa would have kicked it....
The LFer (Murton?) had an issue with Duncan's liner too....but Pie looked really good on liners from Kennedy and Edmonds....
Marquis has been doing his best
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
Whataya mean?
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Still no Cards/Cubs
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I could go for a SnoCone
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
So...
With the error
(That's sarcasm not pessimism. If the Marquis/Cubs Nexus of Losing can't spark the Cards offense...)
why in the hell isn't Wilson on 3rd?
Jones does not have a good arm
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
respectfully disagree
fine...
Jones arm is so so bad -
Bottom line: bad baserunning - in keeping with the style this team has solidly established all April
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 21, 2007 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not on third
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Walk him please
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
Now would be the time for BiPolar Betty
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
NY/BOS gamebreak
lil'dunc i love you man man
Mother of God
Though you can't hear me
by saladdin69 on Apr 21, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
One more reason I can't stand Preston
He should have been at third with the single and home with the fly.
1 for 13, RBIs and 1 BB
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
8 runners stranded...
Marquis has pretty much sucked so far... Remember the summer of '04 when he was a ground ball machine and he couldn't lose? He was well-loved in Cardinal nation then.
Ah, memories...
4IP, 5 Hits, 2 HBP, 83 PITCHES!!!
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
Very easy to do against this club.
by deanj on Apr 21, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
More Girardi Tomfoolery
That's asinine.
Cedeno screwed up by sliding past the base. He'd've ended the inning if it was a strike-im-out throw-im-out since he overslid the base. Peeking to home plate would've only slowed him down and made the out easier.
Girardi...
I agree
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the first I've heard of that
I live in Chicago so I've been listening to it for
Whatever. You try to do it fat man.
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ron Santo just said:
He's been doing stuff like that all day, more so than usually, but now it's getting ridiculous.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
An out pitch would be nice
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously...
Move along please.
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Buck:
That's just gross.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
aside from barrett,
That Edmonds hit would've been a double if Soriano were still in center.
How about a little MV3
That'd get my juices going, even if we were still down 1.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
Nevermind.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes me think that Wilson's HR yesterday -
At least he made his weekly hit a big one.
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 21, 2007 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely pathetic.
at least the NHL playoffs keep my interest.
So, he can't wear white sweat bands, but...
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
while i have a sec
HAHAHAHAHA
Wainwright vs...
I like our chances there.
Just tell Wainright -
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 21, 2007 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to say it...
Kinda
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn't...
It should be about 4-4 in which case we'd be complementing Reyes for settling down and keeping it close.
So this should be our best last chance
Eck
Duncan
Pujols
Here in the Top of the 7th.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
I sense a comeback...
insert santo gurgle here
jesus
at least swing the bat.
Alright Albert, Duncan got on for you
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply actions
Or that.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
We're being shut out
:(
by VORP is too nerdy on Apr 21, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply actions
If Edmonds bats this inning
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You almost have to put Duncan in the cleanup
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
That would be a moot point if
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
is it dusty baker or sweet lou
I love chicago pitching management.
boy, scott rolen
wow, 10 men left on
So it's definitely not the most original post, but our offense can't get that hit with RISP.
The batting order the rest of the way
Edmonds
Preston
Kennedy
9th
Bennett
Pinch hitter
Eckstein
Unless Tony does something silly like lift Duncan here.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
I can't belive this
betty is shutting us down? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
don't the Cards have any pride? how can they let this happen?
Pride has nothing to do with it
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Peace
Mr. Thompson...
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 6:04 PM EDT reply actions
Look at it this way
by VORP is too nerdy on Apr 21, 2007 6:08 PM EDT reply actions
First place vs last place
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how Girardi told that story like
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 6:08 PM EDT reply actions
Girardi
But he's still better than Mike Shannon.
by VORP is too nerdy on Apr 21, 2007 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Them's Fightin' Words
For all the non-stop talking Girardi has done today, none of it was of any value, except for mockery fodder.
Welp.........
Hey, it's Wil Ohman
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
Yup
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Ron Santo was THERE the exact
Give me a break, Ron.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
jason fucking marquis
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
It could
I wouldn't mind a JRod/Wilson platoon in RF.
JRod v. RHP, P-Dub v. LHP.
by VORP is too nerdy on Apr 21, 2007 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
unless he can hit .280
Don't get me wrong, I welcome JRod up to the team, he can't do any worse than what's up here right now. i just don't see bringing up a platoon fixes much of anything.
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
the players hitting badly in small sample sizes
Check the stats
This is why I say JRod will be a huge upgrade against RHP.
by VORP is too nerdy on Apr 21, 2007 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
there's research out there
i can't remember who said it,
this is just too hard to watch. how could this have happened?
they haven't hit all that badly this game,
The catcher
Let's be more concerned about our light hitting CF who is becoming a defensive liability (I never thought I'd have to say that), our slappy hitting Gold Glove 3rd basemen and our lead-off hitter who has an OBP of .314.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be more worried about them
What makes you believe Rolen or Edmonds
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really think Rolen is a true .190 hitter?
Do you really think Eckstein is a true .230 hitter?
Do you really think Kennedy is a true .190 hitter?
I never said anything about Pujols
You just don't know with Rolen or Eckstein. Both have played the game hard and may have cut years off of their careers. Rolen's coming off of serious injuries.
I think both players are better than they are playing, but can you really say "Oh yeah, they'll bounce back" with certainty? Pujols is in the prime of his career. Rolen and Eck are in their age 32/33 seasons but with the way they play/injuries, it could be more like an age 34/35 (backside of career).
Adam Kennedy has come off of 2 pretty bad seasons, certainly down from his two career years 3/4 seasons ago.
Their careers could go either way at this point. Outside of Rolen and Pujols, Eckstein and Kennedy aren't 'natural' talents in that you can expect them to just will their ways out of slumps, atleast I don't believe so.
I believe Rolen will be able to return to probably a 26 HR 85 RBI .280 BA but that can't be your cleanup hitter, not in 2007.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem with Molina
He was days late on Lilly's blistering 88 mph fastball yesterday and hasn't looked any better against anyone else. The guy has had major injuries to both of his shoulders that have each required surgery, plus countless other injuries. After a while, all that crap starts to add up.
Personally, I have zero faith in Scott Rolen and Jim Edmonds. I'm still holding out hope on Kennedy and Eckstein to do something. Wilson is what he is and (spoiler alert) Encarnacion won't do shit all year, Mulder won't be anything remotely good until maybe next year and Izzy will have to "take a break" sometime in early June.
Oh, and I'm afraid Carpenter won't be right all year either.
Hope I'm wrong and sorry about venting. I'm just tired of waiting on Rolen.
by Big Red on Apr 21, 2007 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
Girardi
Only if he takes Thompson with him.........
So. If Reyes is the odd man out, assuming that Mulder and Carp return to action, how much could we count on him if he continues to struggle early in games?
yeah
Hancock can get DFA'd for all I care. like right now.
I'd rather see some young arms get a shot, even if they fail, than what is going on now. and I don't even want to get started on the offense.
Being shut out by Marquis?
That Wilson home run yesterday was a complete anomaly, I'm beginning to think. (did it really happen?)
fuck FOX
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2007 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
Give him credit
117 pitches to get through seven innings, though...
And I'll pre-empt the inevitable reply-to-this—perhaps Marquis' wife could have shutdown the Cardinals offense today.
I dunno...
Against a decent hitting team with neutral luck, he gives up 4 or 5 runs and goes 4 innings.
agreed
The Cubs weren't exactly putting on a defensive clinic either....
1-30 RISP
But hey....
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 21, 2007 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
so..
No, seriously. Someone said it above, but Reyes pitched well except for the home run to Barrett. I sat directly left of home plate in the lower deck and had a great view of High/Low and break on his pitches. It seemed like his changeup was finally working pretty well, 76-77, as opposed to earlier in the season. Lots of swings and misses - kind of the opposite of, say, last year's Marquis. His fastballs were working too, 94 up in the zone, 90-91 low in the zone.
Plus, his pitch count was consistently about an inning ahead of Marquis. Is anyone else glad TLR didn't get saucy and leave Reyes in there for, say, 117 pitches?
Well
Dead last in MLB in runs scored
Take out our two Sunday explosions?
Averaging exactly 2 runs/game.
Anemic offense. But at least we rank T-10 in MLB in runs allowed...
OT: VEB Upgrades?
by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Apr 21, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions
I don't get this
i just read that on stltoday.com. do the Cards actually think the reason the entire offense sucks is because Juan Ecarrrrraaasssssaaaddddaaaa (did i do that right?) is on the DL? are they serious? what's in the water in the STL? what kind of Kool-Aid are they tring to get us to drink? Juan ain't the problem. the problem is our bench is playing too much and being overexposed. everyone but Duncan is slumping at biblical porportions. Scottie seams to be playing hurt again. Jimmy deffinalty is. this is the 3rd season in a row Kennedy has been underperforming. it looks like the league has finally passed ECK by. we all know MOOKIE is a strikeout machine. nothing will change there. i agree with some of you that Albert will be back, who knows when. but he will be back. Jimmy&Scottie? well, I'm not so sure now that eather one of them will ever be half the players they once were.
i just don't understand why the Cards think having Juan back in the line up will help everyone else remember how to hit. what do they see that us fans are missing?
I don't know either
That and it will put the bench back together, that is if he's healthy when he comes back and hits at least .270. Probably won't have much power, but getting on base and a timely hit here and there would help dramatically.
Wait, are we talking about Juan Enc!?!
Ugh.
Unfortunately, right now...this is all we have to look forward to in the way of help for the offense.
by Big Red on Apr 22, 2007 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Puh-LEEZ
Umm...are you on crack?
Even while still gimpy Edmonds makes Juan's fielding look like amateur night.
Jimmy may not be able to hit a ball on a tee right now, but he's still better defensively than JuanCar.
I'd like to see some proof
I thought he had surgery on the OTHER shoulder.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions





















