Game 10 Open Thread: April 14, 2007

by lboros on Apr 14, 2007 9:23 AM EDT in News Comment 139 comments


suppan	wells
0-2, 4.15	1-1, 1.38

the old man is snoring . . . . . as CardFanVA noted last night, the rainout means tony n dave can shield keisler from the cubs and all those right-handed hitters. randy's next start now slides back to wednesday at san francisco; with a scheduled off day looming on april 23, la russa can make another adjustment to herd keisler away from the second cubs series, at the end of this month. like so:

4/15 mil looper	4/16 pgh reyes	4/17 pgh wainwright	4/18 @sf keisler	4/19 @sf wells	4/20 @chi looper	4/21 @chi reyes
4/22 @chi wainwright	4/23 OFF	4/24 cin wells	4/25 cin looper	4/26 cin keisler	4/27 chi reyes	4/28 chi wainwright
4/29 chi wells	4/30 @mil looper	5/1 @mil keisler	5/2 @mil reyes	5/3 OFF	5/4 hou wainwright	5/5 hou wells

good reading elsewhere:

begin with excellent posts about honoring jackie robinson at Cardnilly and the cardinals' first African American player, tom alston, at Bird Land. both of 'em help put tomorrow's anniversary --- 60 years since the integration of baseball --- in perspective. i'm down with Cardnilly: i think the cardinals' decision to wear #42 en masse tomorrow is something to applaud.
the farm-system report is up at Future Redbirds; only two teams in action last night, as memphis and springfield both got rained out. trey hearne pitched for palm beach.
danup looks back fondly on the cardinals' 2004 draft.
the 2007-08 free agent class just lost an important member: jake westbrook is signing an extension with cleveland.
a lot of people out there detest the new Gameday at mlb.com --- too much information, poorly packaged. or so goes the complaint. how do you guys feel about it?

Update [2007-4-14 18:52:23 by lboros]: here are the lineups:

MIL	STL
weeks 2b	eckstein ss
hardy ss	duncan lf
fielder 1b	pujols 1b
gross cf	rolen 3b
estrada c	edmonds cf
jenkins lf	spiezio rf
hart rf	molina c
graffanino 3b	kennedy 2b
suppan p	wells p

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#42

I hope this anniversary will bring back some black player to play baseball!!!

I'm from Italy so I fear that I can't fully understand how important was to have Robinson playing in MLB, but I'm happy that our favorite sport helped to break racial barriers. Wearing #42 on white people is a really good sign that we're all human beings, despite skin color.

GO CARDS!!!

by SuperSeve on Apr 14, 2007 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

anniversary

You know, it's not just black players who have become scarcer in baseball--black fans don't go to games the way they used to, either. What's the capacity of the new Busch, somewhere around 45,000? It would not shock me to hear that a sold-out game would have more black employees working there than black fans in the seats.

It certainly hasn't always been that way, as anyone who went to games years ago could attest. I don't know the reason. Perhaps there was an explosion of interest in baseball among blacks in the 1940s and '50s because it was the first sport to integrate, and that interest has simply waned over the years.

by Youneverknow on Apr 14, 2007 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

black people just like basketball and football better.

It certainly seems that way.

by VORP is too nerdy on Apr 14, 2007 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

could be

things are more expensive too....comparing attendance statistics from basketball and football might be instructive on that point....

by nota bene on Apr 14, 2007 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Over at Keith Olbermann's Countdown

They've got a video segment on what was really going on at the time. They get into the proposed walkout by the white players on the other 7 NL teams and how Musial took a stand against the walkout.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

by musial6 on Apr 14, 2007 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gameday

I wouldn't say I detest the new version, but I do dislike the big ol' ad box permanently in the lower right corner. Maybe it'll go away when the Right Guard free trial does? I doubt it.

Speedier data entry on balls in play would win far more fans than pitch-break data. I know it takes a while to figure some plays out and the Intranet is not always an instantaneous thing, but still...

by jfs on Apr 14, 2007 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

why would you not

want the data on the pitch? Not that the PFX (or whatever it's called) data is working now, but as person stuck with the radio and gameday many a night, it's a nice feature.

Future Redbirds

by erik on Apr 14, 2007 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm actually pretty fond

of the new gameday. I'm sure it's somewhat of a work in progress, but I like the graphics. Like anything new, you have to learn your way around it. I really like the last several batters feature where you can see the pitch placement and love the pitch location data...or, I will love the pitch location data once it's trustable.

I also feel it's faster then gameday has been in the past.

by RedbirdRay on Apr 14, 2007 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pitch Data

Why they can't even have pitch speed yet is lame, since every stadium has it. CBS gamecenter does.

But in-play descriptions are still poor, particularly with hit and run situations. The worst is that interminable pause after saying "ball in play." Actually, the worst are the frequent lock-ups.

For me it's not so much that gameday is worse, it just isn't any better and the new format is lousy for split screen use. At least there is competition since MLB lost their law suite claiming to own all the stats. For right now, cbs gamecenter wins as most improved, and most useful.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Apr 14, 2007 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agree w/

you there. what's taking so long to get the pitch type and location info going when others have it already?

Future Redbirds

by erik on Apr 14, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Westbrook important?

Not so sure about that one Larry. I think he will definitely get paid. But, I think he's just one more of those pitchers I won't have to cross my fingers and hope the Cardinals won't sign.

His line just isn't that impressive. While his FIP has been considerably better than his actual ERA the last couple years, his peripherals still aren't so impressive. His career avg is 4.8 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9.

Additionally, PECOTA has him projected to decline rapidly with only 1.7 WARP by 2011, his age 33 year...and a year that would probably still be under contract had he looked at free agency.

He looks like a big salary drain to me.

by RedbirdRay on Apr 14, 2007 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he'll surely be overpriced

because all f.a. pitchers are. but i think he's pretty good. he has put up decent era's the last three seasons in a dh league, in a park similar to the cardinals', and has no injury history to speak of. over the last three seasons (04-06) he has a 2:1 k/w ratio and a 4.01 era (again, that's in the american league) and a very low hr/9. put him in the nl and he'd likely do very well.

worth the money? probably not. but given carp's elbow status, who knows what sort of rotation the cards will be bringing back in 2008 . . . . i'd just as soon have westbrook out there as an option.

by lboros on Apr 14, 2007 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

westbrook

I had business in Cleveland last summer and had a couple of chances to see him at the Jake. He's a classic JockLaDunc-type hurler - control, control, control. He reminds me of Suppan.
This game interesting. Westbrook stranded a bunch of runners in the first three innings - genereally looked terrible. But then he got his control back and pitched a complete game shutout.

"Left-hander, right-hander, soft thrower, power guy, fastballs away, fastballs in-- [Albert Pujols] doesn't have any holes." - Tino Martinez

by _pistol_ on Apr 14, 2007 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

New Gameday...

... as for me, I hate it.

I only need to use Gameday when there is a game during the day and I'm at work, (at work they block streaming audio and video)... so for me the most important thing is to be able to glance at the screen and know immediately what the situation is.

That being said, last week someone recommended ESPN's game tracker, (or whatever they call it). I tried it and it seems much nicer than MLB's Gameday.

by Okasa on Apr 14, 2007 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

New Gameday

I have also quickly acquired a strong dislike for the new Gameday (the informational layout is simply a train wreck). Thank goodness for the person who made the old version available on an ad hoc basis.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains."

by AustinBOB on Apr 14, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From the...

taking pleasure at other people's misfortune department...

Jason Jennings has tendinitis and will miss a start.

Ok, so what's worse: tendinitis or bone spurs? The bone spurs are going to keep Carp out til after the all-star break (my feeling), but tendinitis sure doesn't sound like much fun either. What is that? An inflamed tendon?

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by guayzimi on Apr 14, 2007 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And to add...

a little insult, Hirsh has thrown 11 2/3 innings with the Rox, given up 4 ers with 11ks to 2bbs.

The Stros and Cubbies in meltdown sure is a nice distraction from the Cards' problems...

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by guayzimi on Apr 14, 2007 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ick - the dreaded forearm flexor!!

Not a good sign. He might end up being ok - but Josh Kinney had a forearm flexor strain. Guess what else he had...Tommy John surgery.

by silent_bob on Apr 14, 2007 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm...

I suppose I don't wish that on the guy, even if he is an Astro.

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by guayzimi on Apr 14, 2007 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's a...

better article on Jennings.

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by guayzimi on Apr 14, 2007 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gameday/ MLB.TV

I don't use it. I spend $100 to watch Cardinals games on-line via MLB.TV. I didn't however antee up $30 for the premium pack, so if anyone has that let me know how they like it.

by Zubin on Apr 14, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gameday

To run the new Gameday I need the newer Flash application. I can't call IT and say "Please let me download so I can watch the Cards."
But with the "old" version I do not need the update.

At home I have tried the new Gameday but don't like it. I use the links to the "old" one.

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

new vs old

I like the old better. While I like the new graphics, and can cover up the annoying add, what I can't stand is that the scroll features don't work in Firefox, at least on my computer.

It takes forever to scroll, when I want to go back and see other innings, etc. And because of the advert, you can't see the whole lineup, after there have been any substitutions.

I use the links to the old Gameday at http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/

by socalcardsfan on Apr 14, 2007 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

gameday

The gameday blog (not sure I completely understand that concept) explains in more details the changes they made this year and why they made them (and what changes are still yet to be implemented. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet, because I haven't put it to use much this season.

how's the weather in St. Louis? weather.com doesn't look too promising...

by madding on Apr 14, 2007 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Stadium Cam

http://www.ksdk.com/video/weather/web_cam/webcams_1010.aspx

42 degrees cold wet and still drizzling. It feals calm, like we're on the backside. They should be able play; I should head downtown and scalp a cheap ticket.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Apr 14, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Better Stadium Cam

http://www.kmov.com/stadiumcam/

This is a better view.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Apr 14, 2007 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WARP question

Me and my friend have a question about WARP that I am hoping someone can help us solve. Sparked by the WSJ article today on Player Value, I was mentioning to my friend that Pujols was (by the WARP measure) the most valuable player in 06. My friend, who is a baltimore fan, asked if albert played for baltimore, would his WARP number be the same? The jist of his question was, if a great offensive player goes from a team with good pitching to a team with bad pitching, does his WARP stay the same? Theoretically it wouldn't really matter if Babe Ruth played every position, if your pitching was terrible, isn't it possible that you would never win a game and therefore WARP wouldn't matter?

by mcurryatl on Apr 14, 2007 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WARP Not Outcome Dependent

I don't know the formula for calculating the WARP figures, but it's not dependent on whether real-life games are won or lost. In fact, I'd guess that Pujols would have more slightly more wins contributed with the same performance as an Oriole, since the AL is a more difficult league.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

really guys,

i'm not sure i get why this whole "the old is better" attitude with gameday. maybe i don't remember the old one well enough. i agree it can be a little busy, but i actually like being able eventually look back at an old gameday of a game and see how much wainwright's curve was breaking, how much well's slider was sliding, etc. and for those who say it's slow, sometimes i see what happens in the game before my radio calls it.

a lot of this argument about the old gameday being better sounds like a bunch of old guys talking about the good ol days when you could by coke for a nickel, and it had real coke in it!

ok, crazy illustration...just saying i don't see what all the fuss is about.

Future Redbirds

by erik on Apr 14, 2007 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That griddle article

It could have been written by Murray Chass.

The new gameday is a bit resource intensive. On a slower computer, it's difficult to control the sliders and what-not—scrolling back through the inning recaps can be frustrating.

The extra pitch data is great, though.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AAhhh.. The Good Ole Days

What I Miss:

Bob Forsch

The "Go Go Go" chant with Vince on First

Girlfriends virginity

John Tudor's change up

Pujols hitting above .200

New Coke

Old Gameday

A-Team

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice list

I miss the good ole days when we didn't have kid choirs singing God Bless America before the National Anthem.

by musial6 on Apr 14, 2007 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Forgot

The female ball girl the Cubs had.

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, what the hell?

Is MLB trying to make God Bless America a new tradition in baseball? It's not working. That song sucks and no one can sing it well. It needs to go.

Just pipe in some Ray Charles belting out his peerless "America, The Beautiful" with some beautiful scenery on the jumbotron if they want to be all patriotic.

Now that'll get the patriotic juices flowing. That song gives me goosebumps every time. Way better than that GBA dreck, IMHO.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Apr 15, 2007 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

but my high school marching band is playing god bless america this year in june, so i have to admit im pretty excited. (guaranteed better than the children's choir)

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 15, 2007 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm a huge fan of the new gameday.

And once they get the info up and running in all the ballparks, I'm gonna be like a kid in a candy shop.

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mlb.tv

is anyone else having problems w. mlb.tv? its trying to make me upgrade to premium and won't let me watch the normal 400k version...

by longhornscardinals on Apr 14, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

no problems here

by six on Apr 14, 2007 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

im blacked out...

hasn't happend all season until today... and ive been on hold for 20 mins of course

by thewizard3 on Apr 14, 2007 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

FSMW!

Due to the re-scheduled time, the game on FSMW is not blacked out as usual. I'm getting to watch the game today! Yay for direct tv!

Go Cards!

by redbird2006in on Apr 14, 2007 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Way to be positive.

good for you.

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by guayzimi on Apr 14, 2007 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's on

Extra Innings as well... !!!

by madding on Apr 14, 2007 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, they added it about 3:00 today

I was pleased, as it is one of only a handful of games this month that was to be blacked out.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 14, 2007 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wells looks sharp

That last delivery to Fielder was nasty.

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

fsn

ok this year the cards are on my local fsn station or so they claim... but i have not gotten a single game yet instead they are playing pacers games. i dont wanna buy mlbtv this year

by adam21 on Apr 14, 2007 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You and I seem to be in the same boat

I hate having to watch an NBA game when the "feature" team isn't even gonna make the playoffs.

But the game is on today, so I'm not to concerned.

Two-thirds of the world is covered by water, the rest is covered by Jim Edmonds

by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Apr 14, 2007 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

RE: AP's first at-bat

in the immortal words of the late Don Adams:
"Missed it by that much".

He keeps hitting these warning track shots and Keith Olberman is going to start talking again. :p

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 14, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Record against returning free agents?

Does anybody know what the club record is against free agent pitchers upon their first time against the club.

I think we roughed up both Woody and Matty Mo.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Apr 14, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gameday question

Do all the games have the advanced pitch features.
I just want to make sure i did not accidentally turn the new features off.

by El Hombre on Apr 14, 2007 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No, some games have it, some don't

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cliq Gameday Blog

Q: Why is the Pitch-f/x data only shown for some games but not others?

A: The Pitch-f/x technology is currently up and running in eight ballparks -- Atlanta, Chicago (White Sox), Los Angeles (Angels and Dodgers), San Diego, Seattle, Texas and Toronto -- so this new data is currently only available for games played in those ballparks. However, the system will be operational in all 30 ballparks by the end of the season, so expect to see the Pitch-f/x data for more and more games as the season progresses.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Apr 14, 2007 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Question:

Why isn't Corey Hart wearing his sunglasses at night?

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Because...

he will Never Surrender!

2006 World Champs! Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by BozCardsFanSF on Apr 14, 2007 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

rolen strikeout

i missed it, does it look like his back is affecting his swing?

by thewizard3 on Apr 14, 2007 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not really

Jeff had quite a bit of break on it but it looked like a pretty decent swing.

I'm a Jenius!

by gibbons on Apr 14, 2007 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The ballpark is playing really big tonight

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

At least Spiezio got the start in RF

if we're working from the current roster, he's the right man for that job (the better man is down in Memphis)

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What's the word on Encarnacion?

I never thought that I'd say we needed him, but the RF fill-ins have been underwhelming.

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Game within the game

Suppan certainly remembers where guy's holes are. He pitched Edmonds up, up, up. Molina away, away. Don't really think we should have resigned him or anything, but I do credit him with being a pitching pitcher.

by RedbirdRay on Apr 14, 2007 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

34 pitches

in 2 innings, though. We might not have to see him too long tonight.

by RedbirdRay on Apr 14, 2007 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

atleast jimmy put a good swing on one

by thewizard3 on Apr 14, 2007 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

That looked to be a good swing. If it was warmer, maybe it carries out.

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 14, 2007 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay,

this is driving me nuts. i specifically click on the 400k stream and it keeps redirecting me to a page where i can buy the 700k version, but i can't watch the 400k one that i am paying for.

by longhornscardinals on Apr 14, 2007 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Can't explain that, but you can rest assured ...

...that mlb will do what they can by providing poor service to get everyone to switch to premium. I didn't switch because mosaic was screwed up all last year. mlb.tv rarely streams anywhere near 400k to try to get you to switch.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

come on guys

Let's go Cards.

Duncan's making up for fantasy points I lost on Reyes and Zito games getting rained out this wknd.

Is Reyes just gonna be skipped?

Redbirds Fun
The Kentucky Democrat
2006 WS for JB and DK57

by cardsfan84 on Apr 14, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Monday

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 14, 2007 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Since Wells was hit in the heel

he's having trouble locating the ball.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 14, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Walks

Wells really doesn't need a reason to walk anyone. It comes naturally.

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow...

its not carrying for them either

by thewizard3 on Apr 14, 2007 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah and it saved us a 4 spot

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wells needs to return the favor...

...and start a rally

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

who cares about baseball

lets see what the idiot with the roving camera is looking at.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nice hustle

chris duncan padding the slg a bit...

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

All of a sudden we are playing Whitey Ball

stealing bases, turning singles into doubles, pushing hard to score on base hits.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 14, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Any idea what AP was bitchin' to ...

...the ump about?

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

probably

asking him if it was a strike. suppan threw an awesome series of pitches there.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He wouldn't bitch about that...

...I think something happened earlier in the AB, but I sure didn't see what it was.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pujols

Was asking the Ump how to get a hit.

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

there we go!

I remember last year, the word was if Scotty can pull the ball, he's in good shape....that went to the left, how hard was it?

by nota bene on Apr 14, 2007 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Solid, but not a screamer

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

a shot

line drive hit solidly.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

First Pujols, now TLR

What's going on?

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what?

What did he do? Gameday doesn't show things like this :(

Redbirds Fun
The Kentucky Democrat
2006 WS for JB and DK57

by cardsfan84 on Apr 14, 2007 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interaction with the Home Plate Ump

Pujols K-ed, stopped over the plate en route to the dugout, and said something to the ump. Then, after the inning, TLR went out and had a discussion with the ump. Don't know why...

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was also throwing a hissy fit in the dugout

calling the umpire names.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 14, 2007 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Strike 3 was swinging, strike 2...

...was a foul ball, so he must have been complaining about the first pitch which was a called strike on the outer half of the plate. Don't know why he would complain though, the call looked good and AP hasn't swung at a first pitch all year (that I recall anyway).

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He swung at the 1st pitch too

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 14, 2007 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He said "timeout"

b/f Soup went into his motion, but the ump didn't call it. He was a little pissy.

Cheers

by Alxfritz on Apr 15, 2007 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

drat

by nota bene on Apr 14, 2007 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

damn

i had a feeling that was going to happen... that's why leadoff guys with power are dangerous

by thewizard3 on Apr 14, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Duncan, Pujols, Rolen...

That sounds like runs, runs, runs!

(Hopefully the Little League motivation works.)

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gameday.

I like the new Gameday but the Pitch By Pitch section on the bottom left seems to lose the scroll box during long half innings. That's annoying.

Bench Juan Encarnacion!

by STLCardinalsFan on Apr 14, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Reduce the Field

If you check next to FIELD, it will reduce space consumed, and make more available for scrolling the play by play.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Apr 14, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

After 6 Wells at 80 pitches; after 5...

...Suppan at 75.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Amaury Cazana Marti

Has hit his 4th home run in 10 games for Minatitlan of the Mexican league.

by El Hombre on Apr 14, 2007 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cool!

Bring him in, let him play first base. ;-)

by Pujols for MVP on Apr 14, 2007 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ankiel

Just hit his third.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

saw that

good for ank

Future Redbirds

by erik on Apr 14, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or second...

...or right...or center...or catcher...

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oops

Meant that as a reply.

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

how many more anemic offensive nights do we have

to watch before they call up JRod. Even if they don't start him, he's a better offensive option off the bench than Wilson, Gooch and Skip -- I'm tired of watching our pitching get no run support.

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Skip

and So should not both be on the bench. One or the other. J-ROD should be up instead of Skip. In fact, I think that he an P-Dub should platoon in RF. (So should he and Enc, when/if Enc comes back.)

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Give Soup Some Credit

Rodriguez might not be having any better luck against Suppan than Speezer is.

He fooled him pretty good that last AB.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I more perturbed by the fact that

Aaron Miles is our pinch hitter of choice.

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jimmy's starting to find his swing.

He's putting better swings on the ball tonight.

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2 years ago

jed would have hit that ball 500 feet. sigh.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and he would have

taken third on a ball the right fielder bobbled. sigh.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Corey Hart needs...

his sunglasses.

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So I can watch it in, watch it in to my glove

click click.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's pretty fantastic

Unlike P-Dub's weak fly-out.

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Perfect Suppan

This is what he does to bad hitting clubs.

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate our bench. :(

by El Hombre on Apr 14, 2007 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kennedy?

Why did we give a guy a 3 YR/$10M deal to a 2B who can't hit lefties?

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

well done preston

i'd hate to have you TAKE BALL FOUR to load the bases instead of getting yourself out.

ok, last negative post of the night from me. go, redbirds.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice Job, Miles

Hit it where they ain't.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Too bad

Those two pinch hits didn't happen in the other order or this'd be a tied ballgame.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Slappy comes through!

With a vintage, Miles slap hit.

by bgh on Apr 14, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FYI

Pujols is 0-9 with a walk and four strikeouts against Rick Wise.

He's due, is all I'm saying.

by liam on Apr 14, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

was pujols set up farther off the plate than usual

or is it just me

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I didn't notice that, but I ...

...think his stance is wider and the crouch correspondingly lower.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bat

I don't remember his bat being so twitchy as the pitcher is delivering.

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was another weak AB for AP....

..and another 0fer game.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bleh

this is just hard to watch

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by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Age

Boy, the Cards just look old.

by saladdin69 on Apr 14, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought the same

as Scotty was going for that pop up in foul grounds.

by El Hombre on Apr 14, 2007 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

woot

Jimmy beats out a groundball single

MV3 where art thou???

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pinch run for Jim...

..the ball will have to reach Illinois for him to score from first.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

As Frank (RIP) always said....

..."Phi Zappa Crappa."

by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 14, 2007 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

due up in bottom of the 9th

Molina, the pitcher, and Miles....I say PH Taguchi and see if we can't get some of that NLCS magic back....(j/k)

by nota bene on Apr 14, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I say

Good luck boys, you're gonna need it.

by El Hombre on Apr 14, 2007 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm

this has now officially the worst albert has struggled in his career?

he isn't hitting into "tough luck" either.

last year i never worried because we had our ace carp who matches up with any pitcher, and the best hitter in baseball, albert of course.

right now we dont have either, hehe.

im scared

by Rentboy on Apr 14, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Schumaker needs to go

That was bad. Many here think he shows "effort" but it's clear he is worse than Wilson. He failed last year and is doing again this year.

by enoscountry on Apr 14, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sigh

congrats, sup...

cya'll tomorrow.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

alright, I'm convinced now.

it's time to end the Skip Schumaker Experiment and bring up Rodriguez. he's at the very least a proven commodity off the bench in the late innings.

by madding on Apr 14, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

optimism

the way i look at it, pujols is in the worst slump of his career, carp is on the DL, and the offense hasn't gotten it goin' yet. that said, the cards are still 5-5. it can only go up, right?

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The second best reason to buy MLB.TV

(besides watching every Cardinal game not in the Bay Area)

Listening to Vin Scully call Dodger home games. He is just so, so good.

2006 World Champs! Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by BozCardsFanSF on Apr 14, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i look forward

to every cards/dodgers series for exactly that reason. he's lyrical and wonderful to listen to. his knowledge and rhetoric are currently without peer.

by sdesserman on Apr 15, 2007 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm relatively certain that I heard

Dan say during the broadcast that Carpenter had a cortisone shot in his elbow. Did anyone else hear that? I meant to bring it up earlier but was busying screaming John Rodriguez at my TV. (Sometimes I scream John Gall for old times sake.)

If (and I'm not positive -- I'm gonna try and find a link) Carpenter had a cortisone shot, is that different than the lubricant previously injected and does that indicate that Carp is having pain?

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs