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couple of items buried in goold's long postgame edition of Bird Land. first of all, the cardinals released several players yesterday, including quadruple A outfielder miguel negron. you might recall negron's name came up in a question for jeff luhnow about the logjam in memphis' outfield; his ouster helps further to clarify that picture, and it's yet another hint about how the organization is allocating opportunities. here's a status report:

quadruple A guys
eli marrero: converted back to catcher
ryan ludwick: memphis bound
john rodriguez: memphis bound (my opinion only --- discussion below)
skip schumaker: cards' opening-day roster (discussion below)

up from double A
reid gorecki: memphis bound
cody haerther: on the dl, then back to springfield
nick stavinoha: making a case for memphis
miguel negron: released

special cases
rick ankiel: memphis bound
amaury marti: i dunno

discussion: with encarnacion opening the season on the DL, either j-rod or schumaker will make the opening-day cut --- and it appears that schumaker has won that spot. j-rod has been nearly invisible in recent games, while schumaker is appearing daily; schumaker is hitting .400, plays better defense than any st louis outfielder except edmonds, and is liked by the manager. j-rod's only chance to stick appears tied to an unlikely, but not impossible, development: the release of so taguchi. so-so is now tied for 2d (at best) with schumaker on the centerfield depth chart, and he's no better than 3d at the corners (preston wilson and scott spiezio apparently are the main backups). on a five-man bench, i don't see what dimension he adds.

to return to the memphis outfield: assuming taguchi gets the benefit of the doubt, i reckon the AAA will start ludwick in left, gorecki in center, and ankiel in right, with rodriguez and stavinoha on the bench. that'd leave rasmus, jay, haerther, marti, and joe mather for the double A outfield; sounds about right. when encarnacion returns from the dl and an outfielder has to move . . . . . well, let's worry about that one later.

the other piece of news from yesterday's Bird Land: brian falkenborg threw 2 innings in memphis' spring training game. which means, i surmise, he has accepted his assignment to triple A. that's good news, imho; the st louis bullpen might need some innings from him at some point. the top relief options at memphis will probably be falkenborg, dove, and jimenez, with cavazos behind them and mark worrell an emergencies-only option. as long as we're projecting triple A rosters, the pitching staff down there is getting pretty crowded; keisler narveson and hawksworth seem like locks for the rotation, and chris lambert almost surely has the 4th slot. that leaves troy cate, mike parisi, matt ginter, and mike smith to battle it out for the 5th and final slot. i gotta think cate has the inside track there, but parisi also has a case; he reportedly has looked pretty strong this spring. i'd be fine with either of those options --- both players are on the 40-man and might have a future. ginter has no future, but he does not appear to be an entirely lost cause (career stats here); one can imagine him turning in a josh hancock-like season or two, if things go well. mike smith --- lost cause.

one other piece of bullpen news: the cards dodged the bullet with jorge julio, who got traded yesterday to the marlins. according to ken rosenthal, the cardinals and marlins had been the leading suitors. close call; i'm glad he wound up elsewhere.

miscellania:

  • it's not looking good for kerry wood. all three of the most dominant nl central pitchers of this decade, arguably, turned out just to be bright flashes in the pan: rick ankiel, kerry wood, and mark prior.
  • john thomson failed to make the blue jays' roster. during the winter i had thought thomson looked like an attractive low-cost option; but when the mariners withdrew their contract offer to him and he landed nothing better than a six-figure deal, it was pretty clear the guy's health was a huge question mark. the cardinals (and other teams) obviously had good dope on the guy; his shoulder's not sound. on the other hand, tomo ohka --- another low-renter in the blue jays' camp --- has pitched his way into the rotation with a strong spring. he's inked to a $1.5m base, with another $750K due if he makes 30 starts.
  • blowhard pitcher, meet blowhard sportswriter.
  • Baseball Reference.com is looking for bloggers; good opportunity, could be loads of fun.
  • tangotiger is running a massive community projection project; i meant to link to this a few weeks ago, but it slipped through the cracks. tango's fan scouting reports of fielding have worked their way into the zeitgeist as a viable alternative to objective defensive measuring systems like UZR and dewan; likewise, his community forecasts will pit the wisdom of the crowds against the number-crunching power of PECOTA and ZIPS and so forth. here's the cardinals' page.
  • i got a note from geoff young of Ducksnorts, the outstanding padres blog; he's put out the 2007 Ducksnorts Baseball Annual, which you can buy in paperback or electronic versions. sandy alderson wrote the foreword. i haven't seen the book yet, but i've gotten familiar with Ducksnorts over the last two years because the cards keep playing the padres in the nlds, and i know geoff's a great writer and analyst, a regular at Hardball Times. here's a review and an interview with the author.
the cardinals play the dodgers today; carpenter's final spring tuneup. mike and john will have the call, and here's the gameday link.

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Schumaker fills Soguchi's role on the team better than so himself can these days.  Of course, what makes the least amount of sense to me is carrying Taguchi and Scuhmaker, two players with a similar skill set, and sending Rodriguez down to Memphis.  But, you're right that this will probably happen in a week.

by Valatan on Mar 27, 2007 9:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Narveson and waivers?
I thought Narveson had to clear waivers before going back to AAA?  Do I have the wrong name?  Is this danger past?

Honestly, I'm glad to see Schumaker's defense make the team.  

by sdrone on Mar 27, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I'm JRod I'm asking
for a trade 12 seconds after they assign me to Memphis.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 27, 2007 9:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No doubt
Especially if he can't even get a starting gig in Memphis, good grief! That's no way to treat a guy with a line of .298/.378/.434 in 332 career MLB at-bats.

by mikedallas23 on Mar 27, 2007 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards should do the humane thing
and release JRod.  TLR has man love for So T and nothing but venom for JRod.  Whatever but this guy is no spring chicken and he does not deserve to be sitting on some AAA bench.  The Cards should release JRod and give him the shot to hook on with another club.  When Juan E comes back, that pushes JRod even further down the STL outfield depth chart.  Walt and Tony, be standup guys and release JRod.

by jjray on Mar 27, 2007 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why Not Trade Him?
If for no other reason than to obtain another right-handed bat? Maybe another righthanded middle reliever? I wouldn't just cut him loose.
So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Mar 27, 2007 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible partner - White Soxs
Looking at their depth chart it appears they have a need for a left handed bat/4th-5th outfielder. Also Toby Hall is undergoing season ending surgery so they need a backup catcher badly, as of right now their backup catcher is Wiki Gonzalez (wasn't he in cardinals camp a couple of years ago?). Therefore if the Card feel that Eli can handle the backup role we can send J-Rod/Bennett to Chicago. For what, I really have no idea. I would love to get Charlie Haeger but I bet thats too high of a price. I doubt all together this can even happen but its just a thought.

by stl3bagger on Mar 27, 2007 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taguchi has no appreciable skills
beyond defense anymore (Billy Wagner = fluke hit --  nothing more, nothing less) and given that Skip can fill that role there is no reason to keep him on the roster.  That doesn't mean that Schumaker should accumulate any appreciable playing time except when Edmonds is out.

JRod belongs on the roster.  He actually belongs in RF (Encarneasada being hurt should have cleared the way for this but instead Spiezio/Wilson will get some time there.) I can't even express how frustrating this is.  Not only is JRod the best player for RF right now but he's CHEAP.  Why are we wasting 1.5 million on Preston Wilson -- for the supposed power?  I don't think Wilson has anything left in the tank.

by azruavatar on Mar 27, 2007 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's fluke hits, in the plural:
two ninth-inning, run-scoring, fluke hits off Billy Wagner in an NLCS that the Cards don't win without him. Perhaps the man's career should end, but give him his due.

by Don Zero on Mar 27, 2007 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His due is a massive WS ring
not a roster spot on the 2007 squad.
John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Mar 27, 2007 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Job Don
     To the So nay sayers: Shesh if you are so desperate for one of our hero's scalp, you could at least waif for him to fail, as you are so sure he will, in the regular season, not spring TRAINING...  It is practice....  Man.

by Yadier on Mar 27, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he has looked damn
putrid this spring, FWIW.  And while ST performance doesn't mean a lot, it doesn't mean nothing, either.  A whole lot of younger players (and even veterans in recent years) have gotten themselves cut by TLR for better performances in the spring.

The problem here is that TLR is going to give So a couple of miles of rope before he pulls the plug.  Even if So sucks in the regular season, it could easily be July before TLR submits to the inevitable.  In the meantime, we pass up who knows how many opportunities to bring in a better player while Tony waits for Gooch to raise his game.  Or, we trade away someone w/in our system who could fill his place right now.  It's all about opportunity cost.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 27, 2007 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yadier, nobody is interested in scalping anyone
but everybody's interested in putting the best team on the field. a lot of people believe that taguchi is not one of the 5 best outfielders on the cardinals' roster --- and they have good reasons. taguchi is old (turns 38 in july), marginally talented, and coming off a bad season and a miserable spring.

if you believe taguchi is one of the 5 best outfielders on the team, you're entitled to that opinion. but i'd be more likely to agree with you if you backed up that opinion with some solid arguments.

by lboros on Mar 27, 2007 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

x2, and just so we're clear
"he hit two home runs in the NLCS" is NOT "some solid arguments."

by nycbirdo on Mar 27, 2007 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry
I meant two hits, not two HRs.

by nycbirdo on Mar 27, 2007 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heart
I enjoy the game more by following my heart than stats.  I wish the kids well.  Perhaps their chance may come.  Perhaps they are worthy.  I am going to let So's play drive this bus.

by Yadier on Mar 29, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batting 2nd today
It looks like TLR is trying to give Gooch some at bats to redeem/prove himself. I know it's spring training, but TLR has his favorites and he'll keep playing them over and over until Jocketty finally says enough. Skip is tearing the cover off the ball and plays solid D and you don't see him getting the benefit of the doubt. Skip might slide in because of injuries.

Just seems like some people get a free pass with TLR and others just can't catch a break.  

by JShell73 on Mar 28, 2007 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson's like a muscle car
that runs only on leaded gasoline. Trade him for anything and put J-Rod in there. Power is only valuable if you can actually make contact with the ball.

You want a loose clubhouse, get some Groucho noses with Speizio goatees. WIlson and Gooch are SUNK COSTS. (See also BIGBIE, LARRY.)

by Red in Chicago on Mar 27, 2007 9:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sunk costs
I agree. Thanks for the memories, guys, you earned the rings.

This year, though, the roster slots and opportunities need to go to players who will use them more effectively and (maybe) improve.

I like the Wilson/muscle car analogy, but you left out, "stalls a lot." Gooch, sadly, is a Yugo with 189,000 miles on the odometer - an economy option that needs to be replaced.

by madridbend on Mar 27, 2007 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that Schilling link
Is that real?  It sounded like something The Onion might print.  I feel like I need to take a shower after having read it!  Yuck!

by chuckb on Mar 27, 2007 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep,
that's the normal feeling after reading a chb article. I have to remind myself how nice it is to have good baseball writers in St Louis. Normally, a Shaunessy article does just that.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Mar 27, 2007 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Schilling and Shaughnessy
are in a race for Most Annoying.  But I think Schilling pulls slightly ahead with his video game production company (named 38 Studios, naturally -- linked on his blog).  I remember reading years ago when living in Philly about how he used strategies from his military reenactments games hobby to help him prep for pitching.  Cool, I thought.  Now, half the questions on his blog are from people wanting to know what game features he's into.  And he provides.  Stupid.

by jfs on Mar 27, 2007 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, it's not real
Schilling does have a blog, and he does do Q&A's, but Schaughnessy was making fun of him and his readership with a fake quote of one of his blog posts.

by john vb on Mar 27, 2007 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bags of D
If there ever were two people to whom the phrase "douchebag" applied more, I would be shocked.
Sign Kurt Kepshire! The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Mar 27, 2007 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So and Skip
are the same player except one is younger and left-handed.  So's appreciable skill is that he hits lefties better than Spiezio or Rodriguez and can play CF in a pinch.  Probably not roster spot worthy but not completely worthless either.

Rodriguez isn't much better.  Even if his defense is adequate and his BA is pretty good, we haven't seen any of the power he flashed for a few AB's 2 years ago.  He's a .285 singles hitter who can't hit lefties, can't play CF, and can barely play RF and LF.  What exactly does he add?  If it's that he's better than So, I ask, so?

The problem w/ our OF is that we have a bunch of 5th OF types + Juan who's a 4th OF type and need a starter.  A lot of depth but not much quality.  It's too bad we can't package about 4 of those guys for a real RF, but no one is that stupid.  In looking around at other teams' rosters, I really don't see many options to trade for either -- maybe Kevin Mench of Milwaukee but is he any different offensively, really, than Juan?  And he's worse defensively!

by chuckb on Mar 27, 2007 10:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree completely
with houstoncardinal's observations here.  The continual overrating of Rodriguez on this board never ceases to amaze me.  He's a servicable lefthanded batter off the bench and little more.  He maintains a solid batting average as long as his at bats are limited but doesn't hold up to extended exposure either at bat or in the field.  The home-run surge that got him promoted to the majors two years ago appears to have been a flash in the pan.  If he is really as good as his supporters think, one might expect him to have some trade value.  If he does end up back in Memphis, however, I suspect it will reflect not only the Cardinals' lack of enthusiasm but that of other teams as well.  That said, I do have some fondness for him and wouldn't be disgruntled if he again makes the team as a reserve.  I wish he were as good as his fans think, but I'm sorry to say that's not the case.

by MikeG on Mar 27, 2007 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that he's
exactly as good as some people think. He's an .800 OPS ML'er, which is driven more by on-base skills than power. Fine by me, last year, according to VORP, he was worth another run and change over Encarnacion every 10 games. He might give that back with the glove compared to our favorite glider, but the Cardinals also gave JuanCar a $15M contract last year ...

by plh903 on Mar 27, 2007 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

j-rod
jrod is not an everyday player--he is a reserve who looks good in the situations that tlr puts him in . . . he is a lot like craig paquette from a few years back . . . good in limited duty, but if you give him the fulltime job (as the tigers? did for paquette after he had a good year in limited duty with the cards) he will be overexposed
" . . . that foul ball just landed in that lady's Busch." ~Shannon

by SprfldCards on Mar 27, 2007 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, personally
I don't believe in that exposure stuff, but if that sounded like I was advocating giving him a starting spot -- I wasn't (at least not in that post). But, the offense would be a lot better if he started in place of Encarnacion, when Edmonds sat and Juan shifted over to CF. Instead of Taguchi getting 250 AB.

Also, if TLR can "squeeze" an .812 OPS out of him, then I think we should keep him around for that. Now, if Tony could only place Aaron Miles in more favorable matchups ...

by plh903 on Mar 27, 2007 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt
that overexposure is untrue for some players . . . but I am certain it is true for others.  Just as the interview with the scouting director said--sometimes all that a player needs to succeed is a chance . . . I'm just not sold that Rodriguez is one of those guys.  
" . . . that foul ball just landed in that lady's Busch." ~Shannon

by SprfldCards on Mar 27, 2007 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see
him fail and prove those 332 AB as a fluke then never know.

I think that a lot of stuff concerning exposure is just bitten by the sample-size bug. But, that's probably a different discussion for a different day.

I hope one of our better on-base guys isn't in Memphis is all I'm sayin'.

by plh903 on Mar 27, 2007 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm stubbornly
sticking to my position that we don't know enough to say JRod is overrated, since I still don't think he's been given enough sustained playing time to show us just what kind of player he is. Geez, just give the guy the 300-plus ABs that Taguchi got last year, and I'll abide by the results, up or down.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 27, 2007 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget Edmonds for a minute
For the future, is it possible for Schumaker to be a serviceable leadoff hitter if Eck leaves?  I could be way off base, but given his good D I'd like to get him some playing time and find out.

by sdrone on Mar 27, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concur
J-Rod glorification is a sympton of Instant Breakfast despair. It results from psychological denial of the fact that Juan, though far less than ideal, is the best that the cards can do in RF at the moment.

Incidentally, why do J-Rod fans not favor Spiezio over 'Nacion and J-Rod? Speez has demonstrated power, he bats switch, and averages about the same and Juan. What about Speez persuades folks that Speez primarily is a bench player, while J-Rod is a unrecognized starter?

So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Mar 27, 2007 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spiezio
I for one will be glad to see what Spiezio can do playing on a more regular basis than we saw last year, even if that means Rodriguez is on the bench in Memphis. I have nothing against Rodriguez: I just have lower hopes for him now than I did when he first came up.

by Don Zero on Mar 27, 2007 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.800 OPS isn't something that anyone outside
of Duncan, Edmonds, Spiezio and Rodriguez have a legit chance of posting in the OF.  In the minors, JRod hit for a little more power than OBP.  In the majors, that has reversed slightly, presumably because he has an easier time taking a walk than slamming one out of the park.  If he posts a .360 OBP this coming year, he would have a good chance of being our 5th best hitter (meaning JRod would be better than Eckstein, Kennedy, Encarnacion, Molina).

Preston Wilson is still living off the good will that emanates from 2003.  JRod was buried in the NYY organization for a long time, so him not making it to the majors isn't necessarily indicative of him not being a good player.  

I could live with Spiezio getting some ABs in RF but Wilson and Encarnacion have HORRIBLE OBPs.  Wilson isn't that great defensively and Juan only had .011 SLG points on JRod last year.  

Saying that he's a "singles hitter who can't hit lefties" is misleading on two accounts.  First, he walks in more than 10% of his PAs a skill that isn't accounted for in his AVG.  Second, he has no appreciable split in the majors.  We're talking about 300+ ABs or about half a season.  It's not a huge sample size but look at his minor league track record -- it bears out his ability to draw walks and hit for moderate power.  Give him everyday ABs and we would have an adequate offensive RF.  Not great, not horrible -- adequate.  And better than anyone else currently on the roster (with the exception of perhaps Spiezio).

What justifies sending him down to Memphis?  If Taguchi, Schumaker and Wilson all make the team and JRod doesn't, that's my problem.  We're talking the three worst hitters for our bench over one of the best hitters on the team, much more so the bench.

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Mar 27, 2007 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+92
and sweet sig.

by plh903 on Mar 27, 2007 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfectly put
Thank you, azruavatar, for clearly and succinctly articulating the JRod situation.  I completely agree with your assessment, with one notable exception.

I've been very impressed with Schumaker's spring.  Maybe his offseason batting session with Big Mac really did improve his swing.  He's been seriously raking it, and he has a decent number of Spring ABs (45) to support the very impressive 1.049 OPS:

 AB   H  2B  HR  RBI  BB  SO  SB  CS   AVG   OBP   SLG
 45  18   2   2    6   5   5   1   0  .400  .471  .578

With his defense, speed, and now the 2nd most hits on the club this spring, I'd say he's definitely earned a roster spot as our backup CF.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Mar 27, 2007 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm fine with Skip as the late inning defense guy
were it not the fact that he hits LH, I'd say he's a perfect fit.  I remain unconvinced of his offensive turnaround though.

He hit .348/.385/.348 last spring and then posted a .308 OBP during his brief stint in at the beginning of last year.  He may have made progress but I'm not ready to believe yet...

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Mar 27, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point wasn't
that Rodriguez is worse than So.  In fact, I said so what if he is?  Being a better hitter than So Taguchi is about like saying he's the prettiest warthog -- doesn't get you very far.  And I never was a fan of the Wilson signing -- I'd rather have Rodriguez.  

I'll grant you that his OBP is better than most, but that doesn't make him useful vs. lefties, where he is far below average.  In his minor league career, he has 1 season of more than 20 hrs and has exactly 7 major league homers in more than 300 AB's.  Perhaps that's a relatively small sample and it reflects sporadic playing time but it surely doesn't indicate that there's a lot of power there.

He is a better hitter than Taguchi, Wilson, and Skip but he's not a better fit for the roster than Spiezio.  And I stand corrected when I called him a singles hitter.  He's a singles hitter who can also walk but he adds almost nothing else.  If given regular playing time he'd likely hit a few homers, but so will Spiezio.  I'm not saying he doesn't deserve a roster spot, but he's hardly the answer in right either.

A decent compromise would be some sort of platoon involving Rodriguez and Encarnacion but it would still leave our RF as one of the worst in the NL.  If he moves on, are we appreciably worse off?  An unequivocal NO!  Will keeping Taguchi and losing Rodriguez cost us wins?  No.

Rodriguez would make for a pretty good 4th or 5th OF who can play the corner spots and pinch-hit vs. righties and start every 4th or 5th game to give the starter a rest.  But I'd almost rather try Stavinoha or someone than watch Rodriguez walk, hit singles to right and grounders to 2nd.

by chuckb on Mar 27, 2007 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe, maybe not
"I'll grant you that his OBP is better than most, but that doesn't make him useful vs. lefties, where he is far below average. "

His minor league splits don't look so hot, but he had a 1.240 OPS against lefties last year (in 17 PA) and a .737 OPS in 2005 against lefties (in 34 PA).  So his MLB split against lefties is a hefty .901 OPS.  Obviously small sample size applies, but he should get the benefit of the doubt.  You can't just assume he's going to fail against lefties because he is a lefty himself, imho...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=rodrijo03&year=00

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Mar 27, 2007 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree
Will keeping Taguchi and losing Rodriguez cost us wins? No.

I can see where it could. Think about it this way, in terms of the proposed pseudo-platoon.

Edmonds still had a .947 OPS last year against RHP. This would leave one to think that when he sits, he should sit against lefties. By design, that would work out to a nice round 30 or so games on the bench. That sounds about right.

Now, Taguchi's role on the team would be the backup CF'er I am guessing. Also a late-inning defensive replacement for Duncan I suppose. Now, if you were to carry J-Rod, and IF he maintains his .800 OPS, you could give him at least 300 AB by starting him in RF when Encarnacion shifts to CF to cover for Edmonds, NOT Taguchi because his bat probably doesn't play anywhere, not even CF. You give him some spot starts against righties and feature a left-handed outfield ever now and again, and use him as a valuable left-handed pinch hitter.

I haven't done the math at all, but I'd bet you've improved the team by 10-20 runs right there. All the while you have Wilson hanging around as well.

by plh903 on Mar 27, 2007 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll try to be concise (but probably will fail)
If Skip gets a roster spot, he effectively takes over Gooch's late inning defense role.  He'll be better defensively and probably about the same offensively.  The logic of keeping Gooch for his glove is faulty because that's what Skip is for.  At that point, it's time to pick the "prettiest warthog".  And then you have to evaluate Wilson, Gooch and JRod and find the best two for the bench (hint: it's not Gooch).

Look at his splits in the majors - no split on OBP vs. LH pitchers.  In fact, JRod would be, imho, a better idea to hit leadoff than Eckstein (but that's another discussion).  He gets on base at a better clip and past baserunning gaffes aside is a better, albeit weak, threat to run in a SB situation, hit and run, etc.  

Using counting stats is misleading given the number of atbats he was getting in the minors.  Assuming he played a full season's worth of ~500ABs he would have hit 20 homers every year since and including 2000 (excepting last year).  

re: platoon with Encarneasada
JRod gets on base more than Juan and Juan only hit for .011 more SLG points last year...I'm not sure that a platoon is really applicable but I'd be open to it.

re: Stavinoha
He had an injury plagued year at AA last year.  Let him prove he can hit high minors pitchers before giving him a shot at the bigs.

The bottom line is that JRod is better as a package (offense and defense) than Taguchi and probably close to Juan, Wilson and Schumaker.  He has the best skill set to hit on a regular basis in RF outside of Spiezio -- and he may very well be sent to the minors.  He could be the 5th best hitter on the team! How TLR can justify that is beyond me.

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Mar 27, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all three of the most dominant nl central pitchers
There's a Mr. Carpenter on line 1 for you, a Mr. Clemens on line 2, and a Mr. Oswalt on line 3...

by birdjam on Mar 27, 2007 10:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In 2002, Oswalt was the only one in the NL Central
and Prior, Ankiel and Wood looked like they were all going to turn into superstars.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 27, 2007 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, 2000 for Ankiel
2001 for Wood
2002 for Prior
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 27, 2007 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And?
lboros' original comment said "all three of the most dominant nl central pitchers of this decade, arguably, turned out just to be bright flashes in the pan: rick ankiel, kerry wood, and mark prior."

by birdjam on Mar 27, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Larry....
This is essentially the question I emailed you about, re the outfield jam.  About a quarter of Memphis' games will have a DH, so there are extra ABs to be had there.  Marrero will get ABs at catcher and probably first base.  That should get some ABs to shake loose for either Ankeil or Maurti, or Gorecki.  

by Brock20 on Mar 27, 2007 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To bad for So...
I really liked the guy, but he couldn't have gone out on a better note.  I hope he sticks around in the Cardinals organization.

Anyone else like minded?

by Zubin on Mar 27, 2007 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes! Retire #99!
No, really. Retire, #99.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Mar 27, 2007 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh....
no.  Though, with the recent push into the Asian markets, the Cards would crazy not to give So a front office job.  

by Brock20 on Mar 27, 2007 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without giving it any serious thought,
I've been harboring the hope that part of the reason they're holding onto So is to help lure Ichiro here when he hits FA.  Born Cardinal, that fella.

by rmerrill on Mar 27, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you just hoping?
Or did So get released or did he decide to retire?  Your post made it sound like he is gone, but I didn't see that announced anywhere.

by Hollywood15 on Mar 27, 2007 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my post said
the release of taguchi is "unlikely, but not impossible."

by lboros on Mar 27, 2007 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad
for some reason I thought I read he was likely to be released.  But my sentiment is the same... I hope he is able to go out a good note and stays connected with the organization after retirement.

by Zubin on Mar 28, 2007 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taguchi-san
Here's hoping to Taguchi ending his career very soon, taking a spot with the organization, and opening a restaurant downtown near the park.  He could serve a fusion menu of traditional Japanese cuisine, (sushi, hibachi style grill, a sake bar, etc.) and also Memphis style barbecue, black eyed peas, and other southern delicacies.  The name of his restaurant will be...

wait for it...

So Food.  

by the red baron on Mar 28, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

congrats!
VEB has made the list of the top 10 baseball blogs, landing 5th. Just one more recognition of what we all know - that this is not only a great Cardinals blog, it's just plain a great blog. Thanks again to all those running the place for doing such a tremendous job.

And, um, BCB is 4th. Recount?

http://prweb.com/releases/2007/3/prweb513651.htm

by nycbirdo on Mar 27, 2007 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

joking?
I don't know if maybe you were joking, but I honestly think BCB is a good blog.  I don't read it often (only when lboros links to it mainly), but from what I've seen the guy knows what he's doing.  Sure, he's overly optimistic about the Cubbies, and maybe he's a little too emotionally attached to them, but isn't that the very definition of the quintessential Cubs fan?

by john vb on Mar 27, 2007 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn't call it joking
just (friendly?) rivalry. i agree, when put to the fire, that BCB is a quality site as well, though i would also argue that based on the limited number of comment threads i've read, VEB is far ahead in terms of being a positive, healthy and knowledgeable community.

by nycbirdo on Mar 27, 2007 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think
That the main posts and the majority of comments by Al are of a quality nature. I just think that there is not enough control exerted by Al and the primary commentors to keep the childlike arguments and flamewars squashed.

One of the posts that Larry linked here ran over 270 comments and 270 pages, mainly because some guy was basically goading the crowd, then saying, "I know you are, but what am I?" Others have been littered with profanity laced replies back and forth. (Someone would have to curse up a monumental blue streak to even get my attention personally, never mind offend me, but it's just not acceptable decorum in any open forum.)

A hardbound book of great literature, drug through mud and excrement, is simply not worth reading.

Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time.

by Solanus on Mar 27, 2007 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats
I also agree that it's no shame to be on the same list as BCB -- hate his team, but like the guy's writing.

On the other hand, the fact that mlbtraderumors.com is #9 takes some of the shine off of the compliment

by tdawg on Mar 27, 2007 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BCB is good stuff!
I had not checked it out before today, but it only took a few minutes before I found a discussion of Jason Marquis and his 5.04 era in ST.  Several homeruns allowed in his last start, but the writer was "sure" that Marquis was just being affected by the desert air.  Rrriiiigghttt!
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
"The good Lord was good to me. He gave me a strong body, a good right arm, and a weak mind." Dizzy Dean

by mel on Mar 27, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

minor league rosters
I know that the rosters at this stage aren't locked in stone, but the latest shuffling in the Cardinal camp has Gorecki, Lambert, and Parisi on the Springfield, not the Memphis roster, which, based on performance, seems right to me.  Cate and Stavinoa are still with Memphis.  I suspect Ankiel is going to get a shot as the Memphis centerfielder, with Stavinoha in right, and that Lambert is going to have to show more in Double A before he gets his Triple A shot.

by MikeG on Mar 27, 2007 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i haven't seen that info
i'd be curious to know the source of it, because those moves seem not to make sense. gorecki was promoted to triple A last july and has had a reasonably good spring; don't know why they would move him back down to double A, where he'd only take playing time away from guys ranked ahead of him (rasmus / jay / haerther). he's also the only true centerfielder on the memphis roster, assuming schumaker makes the cardinals.

lambert to double A for a third season also doesn't make sense to me. they already have a full rotation at double A --- garcia, boggs, haberer, pomeranz, and parisi (if in fact he is returning there), and the reports have been pretty consistent that lambert's going to be challenged this year --- sink or swim.

by lboros on Mar 27, 2007 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See the article by Brian Walton
at the Birdhouse website today.  It lists the latest roster alignments for each farm team.

by MikeG on Mar 27, 2007 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

got it
that clarifies things. given that the memphis roster only includes 3 outfielders, while the springfield roster has 8, i would think at least one of the guys listed at springfield on that page (prob'y gorecki) will be playing at memphis when all is said / done.

by lboros on Mar 27, 2007 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

J Rod
I have said it before but I will say it again. There is a reason that he spent 10 seasons in the minors. He is just not that good. No way he deserves a starting spot. Juan has performed at the same level he has all of his career. What else could we expect from the guy. He would have had one of his best seasons last year if he hadn't got hurt. I don't even think J-Rod should make the roster. Trade him if we can, but don't waste any more time on him.
Play hard, play to win, but make it fun!

by Edmonds is baseball on Mar 27, 2007 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nothing cures a spring slump like Brett Tomko
Albert just took him deep.  Welcome back, El Hombre

by tdawg on Mar 27, 2007 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Today's lineup...
is our first look at our opening day starting lineup.  I like seeing Yadi in front of Kennedy, and would prefer Spezio over Wilson, but this is probably what we'll see.

by cardzfanbub on Mar 27, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carp looks great thus far
I'm excited that we have this man locked up... he's really become something special. Add in a homer by El Hombre and things are looking good for Sunday... man, I can't wait.
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by Scarlet the Cardinal on Mar 27, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

7 innings, 4 hits, 2 walks, 5 K from Carp
Looks like he's got all the tuning up that he needs. Hancock's in now.
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by Scarlet the Cardinal on Mar 27, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forgot to mention
that Carp closes Spring Training with a spiffy 2.60 ERA - and it's not even the lowest on our projected rotation.
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by Scarlet the Cardinal on Mar 27, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

understatement of the spring
among all SPs with at least 20 IP so far this spring (going into today), the ERA leader (and IP leader) is ... Adam Wainwright, with an ERA of 0.98 in 27 2/3 innings.

And Reyes' ERA is 2.7.

by nycbirdo on Mar 27, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and wells's is 1.06
but he's only had 4 starts, and thus only 17 IP so far.

by nycbirdo on Mar 27, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention
A GB/FB ratio of 12:4.  Seems like he's on track.  I wonder how many pitches he threw to get through 7 innings?  If he's at around 80-85 pitches or less that would be another impressive point.

by wildman on Mar 27, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals Pitching staff
top to bottom has been crazy this spring.  Team ERA of 2.45?  Are you kidding me?  The next lowest in the NL is almost a full point higher.  Can't be sustained of course, but it appears that all projections are on target...great pitching and questionable offense.  Now isn't that a change from '04.

by tinstl on Mar 28, 2007 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other former Card news...
Luna has failed to make the Tribe, and Fernando Tatis is available to the highest bidder. I always liked Tatis... What the heck happened to him anyway?
Acquire any Established Major League Starter!

by guayzimi on Mar 27, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tatis
signed a minor league contract with the mets last week.
"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Mar 27, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess...
Luna showed up fat and Tatis just doesn't have it anymore  (newsflash!)...

In happier news, Bud Smith is working on an impressive comeback...

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by guayzimi on Mar 27, 2007 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Luna's defense
maybe he was just trying to fit what he believed Cleveland's profile of a secondbaseman was.   Maybe he saw some film of the secondbaseman they had last year, and therefore tried to "bulk up" during the off-season.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 27, 2007 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bud smith
I wish Bud Smith the best in comeback bid.  He helped us land Scott Rolen then fell off the face of the MLB earth.

by jjray on Mar 27, 2007 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tatis/Roids?
He was someone I always suspected.  There were whispers about him weren't there?

by silent_bob on Mar 27, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bench Rewards
A bigger bonus than WS win shares, Walt gave all of the bench players a new contract.  Without the WS, we would've seen the same amount of turnover as years past.  With corresponding sentiment, tlr will have all these guys on the line next week for their rings.  Memory of a lifetime, and greatest accomplishment of a career.  Even if tlr has decided that So needs to retire, and PW maybe also, and j-rod can join luna and gall wherever, tony wouldn't say anything until the rings are passed.
This years's roster won't be settled by who goes north when camp breaks, it'll wait until after the first home stand.  I don't think there is any risk of putting the team in a hole for waiting, rather it's a symbol of Cardinal Class.
Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Mar 27, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no way
that Jocketty and the owners do that.  Remember these are gauranteed contracts for millions of dollars and there is no way they pay those out so that these guys can just show up to recieve their rings.  I would say stupidity if anything...

by eglasier on Mar 27, 2007 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They Expected Better
Of course they don't sign players and carry them just for a bonus.  But if they start thinking they might need to release So or PW, I don't believe for a second that tlr would keep them from going north at least for the first home stand. So was an October hero, and even PW made a playoff contribution.
I wouldn't call it stupidity, but given the past typical turnover, it was different this winter, and only clouded judgement from a championship could have played into the logic for re-signing these two.  J-Rod is hanging on the perennial wishful thinking that many of us have continuing to pull for someone that may never make it.  Again, I just can't believe in that context that they would let these guys go now.  I won't be surprised if neither of them make it to the end of April.  And, i think any of the prospective replacements can do better.
Duncan was our surprise over-performer last year.  I'd rather try another with that type of chance.  I don't know who that might be, but we can count out so and pw, and probably jrod too.
Sorry if I sounded like bench rewards were justified.
Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Mar 27, 2007 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reyes or Wells?
Wondered who you guys would keep on your fantasy team.  I drafted 6 SP and I need to drop one to add Dustin Hermanson when he hits the player pool...would you keep Reyes or Wells?
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by cardsnutincali on Mar 27, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You draft players
who aren't playing anymore?

by sdrone on Mar 27, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who are you referring to?
Hermanson?  He's making a comeback with Cinci as closer...
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by cardsnutincali on Mar 27, 2007 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's actually pitching?
2 months ago he could barely stand up straight.

by sdrone on Mar 27, 2007 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it's a keeper league
keep Reyes.  If not, I'd take Reyes anyway -- bigger upside!

by chuckb on Mar 27, 2007 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keith Law on TLR DUI
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=law/070327&sportCat=mlb

He's really rough on the combination of alcohol and baseball and I have to say I agree with him for once.  I will give Law the benefit of the doubt that he would have written the same thing if it had been J. P. Ricciardi instead of TLR.

by STLEdge on Mar 27, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's still an idiot
Why in the world should MLB punish the man for something that he is being punished for as a citizen?  The law states that what he did was wrong, not MLB, and he will be punished accordingly by the state of Florida, not MLB.  As it should be.

If Keith Law thinks that the state of Florida let him off too easily, then he should lobby to have the laws changed, rather than arguing for him to be punished arbitrarily by a third party who is not accountable to anyone.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Mar 27, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but is he fair
i would only ask this.  Should Kieth Law be suspended from his job for a DUI, you from yours, or me from mine.  Good people make mistakes, employers should have nothing to say about what happens off the clock unless it is effecting one's performance.  Just my personal opinion.

by gonzostl on Mar 27, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

completely meaningless stat o' the day
spring training record: 14-10, winning pct: .583

.583 winning pct over 162 games: 94.5

by nycbirdo on Mar 27, 2007 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa there skippy...
vs Left-handed Pitcher     St. Louis Cardinals 13 13 3 4 1 1 1 2 10 3 6 0 0 .471 .769 .308
vs Right-handed Pitcher     St. Louis Cardinals 96 170 28 51 11 2 1 17 69 18 39 0 0 .366 .406 .300

JROD hits BETTER against lefties than righties and actually with MORE power (even though there is a small sample size) so all of this "hits worse against lefties" crap is like trying to say Edmonds hits worse against lefties when the opposite is true!

carry on...

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by MaskedMan on Mar 27, 2007 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if they
would have re-signed grudz and sanders and played luna...ok those were last yrs stories,along with there reyes conspiracy this yr reyes is in rotation so we'll have to settle for j-rod stuff...
Kenny is a "dirt" bag?

by punchinjudy on Mar 28, 2007 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i haven't been able to find splits for
any of his minor league seasons prior to his arrival in memphis. . .

which is really frustrating

John Rodriguez for Right Field

by azruavatar on Mar 28, 2007 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure they don't
exist. I've looked before.

by plh903 on Mar 28, 2007 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how come narveson had to clear waivers but
prior does not?  Feel like has been around long enough that he should be out of options.  anyone know anything about it?

by gocards80 on Mar 28, 2007 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not yet
he's sched to throw today -- but Wade Miller locked up their #5 slot (supposedly) so they'll have to decide whether send him to Iowa or have him stay in fake Peoria for extended spring training.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Mar 28, 2007 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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