at a glance
according to Bird Land, dove and jimenez have pitched themselves onto the bubble:
before i describe what i saw, though, let's do a quick bit of handicapping here to see how "outside" these two pitchers' chances are. i figure 4 of the 7 bullpen spots are locked up --- isringhausen and thompson from the right side, and flores plus one (either rincon or johnson) from the left. i am gonna surmise that the three remaining spots will all go to right-handed pitchers, with the surplus left-hander either getting traded (rincon) or getting optioned to memphis (johnson). the contestants for those three remaining slots are:
- hancock
- franklin
- springer
- falkenborg
- dove
- jimenez
- cavazos
jimenez threw the bottom of the 10th inning on friday night vs the braves and preserved a 6-6 tie. i wrote last week that kelvin hasn't faced very stiff competition this spring, and the same pattern held in this game: he pitched to quadruple A slap-hitter willie harris (a favorite of mine, incidentally), triple A shortstop tony pena, and double A outfielder brandon jones. this pitcher is very long and thin; baseball cube lists his dimensions as 6'2", 153 pounds, and while he's not quite that spindly, there's a decided stick-figurey presence about him. (i searched google images for a picture of kelvin jimenez but couldn't find one; the search engine did return this off-the-field image, but i can't vouch for whether or not that's really kelvin.) jimenez pitched exclusively from the stretch on friday night. he has a short, smooth delivery and throws hard without a lot of effort --- holds his hands at the belt, has a low leg kick that never cracks the plane of his waistline, and holds his torso pretty upright as he delivers the ball. jimenez threw his fastball consistently at 93-94 mph (per fox south's radar gun) on friday and spotted it well; he came inside with it on both of the left-handed hitters he faced, ended his stint (and the game) with a called strike on the inside corner vs brandon jones. his off-speed pitch, a slider, appears to be nothing special, and he lacked command with it on this night --- the first two he threw were way high and forced marrero out of his catcher's crouch. versus jones, the best hitter he faced (and a left-handed one), jimenez featured his slider --- threw one on the first pitch (a called strike), another on 0-1 (ball outside), and a third on the 2-1 pitch, which jones chased in the dirt for strike 2. so the guy trusts the pitch enough to throw it from behind in the count.
dove entered the game yesterday in the 6th inning with the cardinals ahead 4-1 and threw to real big-league hitters --- beltran, david wright, alou, shawn green, and jose valentin. he has a big upper body and broad shoulders; has a drop-drive delivery and reaches wayyyy back behind his head and cocks his arm at the elbow, which might make the ball hard to pick up. dove's fastball consistently hit 95 on ksdk's radar gun, while his curve came in as slow as 75-76 mph; that's a terrific split. if he can harness both of those and throw `em for strikes, he could be very difficult to hit.
the mets, however, weren't altogether fooled. dove threw 12 fastballs yesterday, 9 for strikes; the mets swung at 8 of those pitches and put four of them into play (they also fouled off 3 and swung through 1). beltran roped one of those 95mph pitches up the middle for a single, and alou pulled another for a hard-hit base knock to left. dove threw five curveballs, four of them to left-handed hitters --- including the 0-0 pitch to both green and valentine. (green swung and missed for strike one; valentin took the pitch for a ball.) dove finished off his appearance with a beautiful hook to valentin for a called strike 3.
dove looks more like a big-league pitcher than jimenez, imho --- but he also has far less experience, having thrown only 14 or so innings above class A (here are his career stats from the farm). having seen him, i fully understand why they added this guy to the 40-man. he may not make the team out of ST, but that doesn't mean he won't be pitching in the majors by july 4.
as long as i was looking at video, i checked out ryan franklin's 3-inning stint saturday afternoon vs the braves. he faced 12 hitters, got 8 of `em out; fanned 1, didn't walk a man. franklin is listed at 6'3", but he sure doesn't look that big; both in stature and in facial feature he vaguely reminds me of the Schofield Kid from unforgiven. he's bow legged and stiff-backed, pitched from a full windup on sat'dy; keeps his back leg pretty straight during the delivery, dips his right shoulder before he rotates it forward. franklin got by on his breaking pitches this particular day; of the 15 he threw, 11 were over the plate, and he got 5 of the 8 outs on off-speed stuff. franklin lacked command his fastball, which he threw 23 times but only 13 times over the plate; the braves put 6 of those fastballs into play, 3 of them for hits. he does locate the ball well and will pitch inside, which i like to see. i know a lot of people detest this guy already, but i think he has his uses.
a few bits of reading:
- erik has launched a new cardinals blog over at the fangraphs site; it's called Gas House Graphs. looks like erik will be exploring win probability over there, among other things
- the washington post did a piece last friday on eckstein's busy off-season
- here's what they're saying in baltimore about sid ponson
- shane robinson has a fan at Beyond the Boxscore
- al yellon didn't like what he saw of mark prior last friday.
- and jeff sackmann doesn't like what he's seen of wayne krivsky as the reds' general manager
- finally --- the cards have won another simulated/projected division title, this one at The Hardball Times
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I can't wait
Great Monday reference
It is pretty sad when you don't even have a ST game to look forward to. Guess it really shows that my last week in Iraq is a very uneventful one (never a bad thing). I'm excited that there are still more arms throwing well than not for the bullpen race.
Since the starting five is all but locked up, we should witness a good battle for the last remaining relievers the final two weeks of play. I'm not entirely sure what trades are a possibility, but it does appear a few of the vets could be playing elsewhere come April 1.
Happy Monday VEBers
Ditto on the Unforgiven Reference
Unforgiven shows how violence corrupts the soul, and the Schofield Kid learns that the cold-blooded gunslinger that he aspires to be is horrifically frightening when he actually plays the part. Yes, it's a helluva of a thing to kill a man.
And it's helluva thing to figure out who gets the last 3 spots in the pen. My guess is that TLR and Duncan will stick with the vets for now and gow with Hancock, Springer and Franklin. The other guys will be kept warm at AA and AAA until needed, which is a question of when, rather than if.
I've said it before
My brother said someone at the Post Dispatch referred to him as Izzy's replacement, but I can't find that anywhere.
handicapping the bullpen slots
a) history
b) spring training competition
c) business (contract, options, etc)
d) his gut
And just like your wife, Tony can be very predictable OR change his logic on a dime and surprise you.
His choices on the bench and bullpen will be interesting.
I was listening to Hummel
It wouldn't surprise me
Don't wanna toot your own horn, huh?
"Be sure to read the interview with Fantasyland's Sam Walker on Viva El Birdos, which has quickly become one of my favorite baseball blogs on the web. There's lots of good stuff in this interview, but perhaps the most interesting part is Walker's contention that the valuation methods brought about by fantasy baseball are partly responsible for the tightening of the market for free agent pitchers:"
rock on
i'm a BP admirer (and rely on it heavily), so it feels good to know they appreciate our little corner of the blogosphere.
BTW
He can leave behind all that stuff about the Cards maybe losing 90 this year, though. I could see us not winning the division, but we'd have to have a lot of really bad things happen to lose 90.
nate did post a while back
I'm still looking at this
SS .290 .350 .361 .711
LF .273 .344 .434 .778
1B .325 .416 .641 1.057
3B .305 .379 .554 .933
CF .252 .336 .404 .739
RF .272 .323 .469 .793
C .221 .277 .328 .605
2B .263 .326 .375 .701
P .173 .224 .222 .446
I see regressions at 3b and RF and maybe 1B, but drastic improvements at LF, CF and C. No net effect at 2B and SS
I can see where this offense might not improve, but how does PECOTA have us losing 50 runs over last year? I just don't see it. Were there a ton of unearned runs last year? Were the cardinals extra-efficient at turning rate-stats into runs?
Can anyone solve this riddle for me?
by Jonathan23 on Mar 19, 2007 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Even the World Series Champs.....
"we're talkin' about practice man" I'm not worried. Just ready and waiting for the real games to begin.
by Yadier on Mar 19, 2007 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
Jeez, I'm tired
Also, La Russa had a closed-door meeting with outfielder Preston Wilson about Wilson's recent comments regarding his spring training approach.
"I'm disappointed he missed the message," La Russa said. "I've explained it to him -- you just don't get ready for April 1."
Wilson called his meeting with La Russa some "honest dialogue," and downplayed any problem.
"For me, it's not a matter of not wanting to do well, it's just annually taken me a little while to get my swing going for whatever reason," Wilson said.
by Yadier on Mar 19, 2007 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
jiminez
It's not the clearest photo, but he's obviously a skinny dude.
nice
Guys do generally lean forward
Doesn't really have a whole lot to do with Jimenez, I just thought it's kind of a cool mechanical oddity.
by the red baron on Mar 20, 2007 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The Hardball Times projections
Maybe it's because these teams add players during the year that improve their numbers. Maybe it's because the weaker teams play more prospects at the end of the year, thus making it easier for the good teams to win games. Maybe the teams that finish poorly tend to be more adversely affected by injuries, thus increasing the margin between the good teams and the bad teams. This might allow the good teams to win more games than they're initially projected to.
Has anyone ever looked at this? Does anyone have any ideas?
I think expectations of future standings factor in
The same goes for trading expensive players for prospects.
The bigger question, IMHO, is why, if this happens year after year, don't the projection systems take it into account. The Cards have another $10 MM in salary room + some undervalued rookies = $15MM or so for an impact player (probably an outfield bat on the order of Larry Walker, were there such a thing). This type of player has got to be worth a few wins, even if he's brought in mid-season. Why isn't this factored into the analysis?
Just too damn many variables...
Last year's Cards are a perfect example... the team that took the field in October was a better team than had been playing for much of the season... simply because they had most of their position players healthy, and shortened the rotation so that their (horrid) 4th/5th starters didn't take the mound. Add the unexpected performances of the kiddie bullpen (maybe they didn't know they weren't supposed to be blowing folks away!) and Jeff Weaver's miraculous channeling of his inner Orel Hershiser, and there you have it! (The 2004 playoff team was a lesser ballclub than the regular-season juggernaut, because they were without Chris Carpenter.)
Any and all "projections" are guess-work... it's just a question of how "educated" those guesses are. Who saw the Tigers coming out of spring training a year ago? Me, neither!
by The Ol Goaler on Mar 19, 2007 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ankiel leg go???
i figured we might be grooming him for trade bait, but didn't think we'd just cut him outright THIS year. interesting move.
Ankiel
ankiel was outrighted to memphis
"The Cardinals made several moves after the game Sunday, most notably the inevitable assigning of outfielder Rick Ankiel to Triple-A Memphis. Lefty Randy Keisler was optioned to the minor-league camp. Ankiel started his Sunday playing for Memphis in one of the backlot games, going 2-for-3 with a couple doubles and starting in right field.
He's expected to stick in Memphis, where he'll be an everyday player.
'I just need to get at-bats, the more I can get the better,' said Ankiel, who finished his day by driving in the winning run of the big-league game with a sacrifice fly in the eighth inning. '(Staying healthy) is just as important -- for me to go out and crank out some at-bats.'"
Actually
A player who is not on the 40 man roster, on a minor league contract, who is sent from major league camp to minor league camp is said to be reassigned.
A player who is on the 40 man, and is sent to minor league camp, is said to be optioned, so long as he hasn't been optioned in three previous seasons.
A player who is on the 40 man roster, who is sent down and removed from the 40 man, is said to have been outrighted.
I've never understood all the terminology myself, until I heard it laid out the other day. (I wish I could remember where) Just thought I'd help out, while it's still fresh in my mind.
by the red baron on Mar 20, 2007 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions
thank for clarifying
Is outrighted a synonym for
Not Necessarily
yeah...thanks guys...
I was expecting him to go to AAA and get at bats. Especially considering he's probably the 5-7th best outfielder we currently have.
It didn't make sense to me either. I'll assume he was cut and sent down which is what was expected unless i hear otherwise.
by HoosierCardFan on Mar 19, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Clutch Hitting
So, if Papi's "clutchness" earns him MVP votes, why doesn't someone with virturally identical statistics and a first-place team get a nudge over (the first base version of)Albert Bell Jr.?
Well, he does have an MVP.
Yes, there is something called an east-coast bias, but it does not apply to Albert Pujols. He is easily admited to be the best player in the NL by ESPN and other outlets.
Him losing the MVP last year? That a HR bias. Ryan's stats were more sexy to the HR loving media. And I'm sure El Hombre is more than happy with the ring.
hah
by Birds on the Matt on Mar 19, 2007 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
"Did you know
I love stats.
Did you realize
Or that 47.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
Homer Simpson on statistics and facts:
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."
by BTown Birds fan on Mar 19, 2007 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Or my personal favorite...
"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."
- Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act I, Sc III.
third of the game?
by cardinalfan7 on Mar 19, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
There is always the classic
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 19, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
FOX SPORTS MIDWEST
I am sitting here watching the replay of game 7 of the NLCS and they can't even link the sound to what is happening on tape. There is about a 4-5 second delay.
Yea it's just a replay, but good grief can it be that hard to have the sound match what is going on?
I assume this is simply something that is on tape. How can ya possibly screw that up lol.
Ok, I am done whining.
by Pujols for MVP on Mar 19, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Jimenez Offspeed
His primary offspeed pitch is not his slider, but his changeup. I watched his appearance against the Braves as well.
He did throw two sliders that were both terrible, for balls. The pitch he was featuring that was getting awkward swings was his low to mid 80's changeup. He had good arm speed, and a little bit of drop.



















