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while you're glued to the tournament, you can listen to the cards game on the radio; izzy's first inning of the year, and it's not a save situation. breathe easy, ev'yone. . . . . or maybe not. shouldn't the fans at jupiter be instructed to boo when izzy takes the mound? gotta get the old boy's ears back in game shape, along with his arm and hip . . . .

they're playing the dodgers. here's the gameday link.

in addition to izzy's very welcome return, we'll see russ springer in his first game action today. he's been somewhat of a forgotten man, but in a bullpen hollowed out by looper's reassignment and kinney's injury, springer could be an important pitcher. . . . couldn't he? up until this morning, i had considered him a candidate to become the primary 8th-inning guy. but after looking at his usage patterns over the last couple years, i'm a lot more skeptical. last season for houston, springer made about 45 percent of his appearances in the 8th inning or later (33 out of 72), but there's a major catch: only 7 of those late-inning appearances came with the astros ahead in the game. and in 5 of those 7 instances, the lead was a very bulky one --- at least 5 runs. only once all season was springer entrusted with an 8th-inning lead in a tight (ie, 3-run spread or less) game: august 20 vs milwaukee. he got two outs, gave up a single, and was removed before he could face the tying run. i should add that springer was waved into a tie game three times last year from the 8th inning forward; he took the loss in this game and preserved the other two ties.

all this information comes courtesy of Baseball Reference's easy-to-scan 2006 game log for russ springer. thank you, sean forman.

looking over springer's 2005 game log, we find that russ made 33 8th-or-latter appearances in that season, too. that year, 11 of the late-inning appearances came with houston leading by 3 runs or less (or tied); he held the lead/tie 8 of the 11 times. but he blew it in one of the most memorable cardinals games of 2005, on july 15; telling, perhaps, that it was springer's last opportunity of the entire season to protect a slim lead late in a game.

to sum it up, for the last season and a half he's pretty much been in cal eldred's role. . . so why are we paying this guy $1.75m a year?

i took a quick look at springer's win-probability data, just to be sure i didn't miss something. i didn't; fangraphs has him as basically neutral in WPA terms for each of the last three seasons. his leverage indexes (all well south of 1.00) confirm that he's not getting brought into many important situations. i had a completely different impression when the cardinals signed him.

it doesn't mean springer can't set up from time to time in 2007, but he is 38 years old and not exactly on the upswing. the 8th inning is pretty much entirely in brad thompson's hands; or, if you prefer, thompson and flores/johnson, with springer and josh hancock picking up some spot duty. as the season progresses, we'll probably see dove, falkenborg, cavazos, and/or jimenez --- whichever one(s) distinguishes himself down at memphis --- get a chance to set up. or maybe it'll end up being the guy who has 8 years of setup / save experience; there is, after all, supposed to be a displacement in the rotation when mulder comes back.

it'll sort itself out; almost always does. but it'll probably take la dunca a few weeks of the regular season to figure out who goes where; might want to brace yourself for a few frustrating blown leads / ties early in the year.

odds/ends:

  • Brock20 put up this link to a video of a little kid aping the cardinals' batting stances. spot-on impressions, particularly of edmonds and sanders; does molina in both the '05 and '06 versions. hil-hairious entertainment.
  • more sims; cards win again. but in this run of 50 seasons, conducted by a poster named jim over at Gateway Redbirds, the cardinals averaged only 84 wins per 162. that was still the best average in the division, and the 4th-best average in the national league; but the team only made the playoffs in 22 of the 50 sim-seasons, a 44 percent success rate --- much lower than the 65ish percent playoff rate they registered in some other sims i've referenced.
  • it looks like community-projection fever is passing. very few takers for the eckstein and looper threads. i'll leave those up for another day or two and look at the numbers over the weekend; if the interest remains low, maybe we'll retire that particular series.
  • i apologize for the silence on the all-time tournament front. it's just been a busy week-plus around here, and i haven't been able to move the tournament to the top of the stack. there are fresh results to report, and i'm hoping to get things moving forward again. i'd originally envisioned the tournament as an off-season time passer, but it looks as if it'll end up competing with the regular season. meanwhile, we've got The Real Tournament to occupy us.
  • tomorrow --- an interview with Fantasyland author sam walker.
let's go, quakers.

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Setup man
So, the ideal setup man can pitch to righties and lefties, get either ground ball or strike outs, and be ready on short notice?

Do we have anybody like that, now that Kinney is gone?  I would think Brad Thompson, except he hasn't really excelled in the strikeout department.  He has an identical BAA of .221 against both lefties and righties, and, surprisingly enough, the OPS is 25 points better against lefties (635 right vs. 610 left).  However, in 276 career at bats, he's only recorded 39 career strikeouts (but only 21 walks).

Note:  Yes, that also sounds like the perfect closer, but I'm assuming Izzy is still in that role.  

by Phyrkrakr on Mar 15, 2007 9:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fantasyland...
one of the best baseball books of the past few years.  I highly recommend people pick it up.

Penn huh?  Well on the greatest day of the year, Let's Go Badgers!

by Brock20 on Mar 15, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Loudest Place for a Big 5 Barn Burner
Went to more B-Ball games there than any place else.  It is the best.
Nothing like a Big Five game going OT, or an Ivy League grudge match for the league title.

Would have never guessed that lboros was a Penn man.  Why not?

They let me out in '79.  That was a great trip to the final four that year. Won't hold my breath today, but it's better than seeing Princeton.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Mar 15, 2007 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Penn!
Never saw a big 5 game at the Palestra but saw plenty of games there.  I was there till '94, when we actually won our first-round game against Nebraska.  Heady days.  Man, I would've loved to be there in '79.

by mikeoat on Mar 15, 2007 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm only a partial quaker
i spent two years at penn --- my freshman year ('81-82), and then a "red-shirt" year in '82-83, where i worked off academic inertia/apathy; lived off campus and bussed tables at 38th/chestnut.

after that i headed west and finished up my degree at california.

still have great memories of west philly, especially Jim's Steaks (i think??) at 40th/spruce. bar none, best cheesesteaks in the neighborhood.

by lboros on Mar 15, 2007 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steak Witt
Jim's was best while I was there, but haven't been back.  Used to wake up hungover, and that's when it hits you that we must have made a 2am dash to Pat's.
Saw a clip during the last presidential campaign of a candidate visiting south philly.  He lost all credibility when he asked if he could have Swiss Cheese on his Cheese Steak.  They used to send you to the back of the line if you didn't know how to order.  This guy had to withdraw from the race the day after this tape played on the news in Philly.
Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Mar 15, 2007 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Onions
Now go to the back of the line.
Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Mar 15, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Palestra??
wasn't that the stuff in WOW potato chips? caused leakage right?

by _pistol_ on Mar 15, 2007 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
Very good read.  Inspired me to set up a new rotisserie league for this year to incorporate some auction activity.

by Cardinal70 on Mar 15, 2007 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fantasyland
if you can get walker, what are the chances you can get sig? after all, he does work for the cardinals now..

by lookit55 on Mar 15, 2007 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know,
I was a little confused when the Cardinals signed Springer during the offseason.  Not a terrible signing, certainly, but it really only served to bring another middle relief guy into an already crowded portion of the bullpen.  He doesn't offer a whole lot of upside that other guys can't contend with, but he is a vet, and he does do a pretty good job of picking up holds.  I guess it's an okay idea, I thought to myself at the time.  

Of course, that was when I thought they were joking about Looper starting, Kinney was still supposed to come in from the bullpen wearing a costume featuring a large S (for SliderMan) on his chest, and the 6th inning was the only one I didn't think the Cardinals had a guy for.  Things are very different now, but I'm still sort of in the dark as to the point of signing Springer.  Eh, at least he should help to stabilize things, I suppose.  Personally, I really hope that at some point in the season we see Jimenez.  I really like the guy's arm.  He seems to have much better stuff than most of the pitchers the Cards have competing for spots.  To me, Jimenez has the kind of arm that you could see being a dynamite setup reliever, if he could just get some consistency in the zone.  I know, I know, that's a fairly large caveat, but still.  

As for the projections, don't take it personally, Larry.  It's just not nearly as much fun to make up numbers for things when you have real life numbers, (even if they don't count yet) to look at and discuss.  

by the red baron on Mar 15, 2007 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Springer adds nothing
I've been up in arms over the Springer signing since it was announced.  Can't understand why, after finding guys like Calero, Al Reyes, and Kinney, virtually for free, they'd throw nearly $2M at a guy like Springer.  Couple that with the fact that he was a disaster the first time around in 2003.  They tried him on the cheap and it blew up, so now they'll try him again for $1.75M?  WTF?

Then, I looked up his splits on bb-ref, and I about lost it.  These, IMO, are the most telling stats, BA/OBP/SLG - OPS, by score margin:

Tie Game   .320/.370/.760 - 1.130
Within 1 R .283/.340/.587 - .927
Within 2 R .242/.289/.560 - .849
Within 3 R .208/.285/.431 - .716
Within 4 R .211/.281/.421 - .702
Margin > 4 .212/.268/.333 - .601

He's a mop up guy, nothing more.

We really had a terrible off season, and the bullpen, to me, is beginning to look frighteningly similar to 2003.

by Speedy G on Mar 15, 2007 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That kid's video
was great.

Reminds me of something I did in HS -- my church had a youth group slow-pitch softball league, and each Wednesday night, one of the teams played the staff and Sunday School teachers.  When we played them, I did a different MLB player's stance every pitch.

The three people who caught on to what I was doing all thought it was very funny...

by whopperman on Mar 15, 2007 10:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes - good stuff
Reminds me of my childhood friend who used to do a dead-on imitation of Jack Clark - raised hands, close to body with a loose grip.  Acouple of my favorites are Nomar and, of course, Jim Leyritz.

by _pistol_ on Mar 15, 2007 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Community projections
I like em still, but I have been busy and so I've been late making my calculations.  Perhaps the threads could remain open longer?

by Zubin on Mar 15, 2007 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ew
   1. David Eckstein, SS
   2. So Taguchi, CF
   3. Scott Rolen, 3B
   4. Tagg Bozied, 1B
   5. Scott Spiezio, RF
   6. Preston Wilson, LF
   7. Yadier Molina, C
   8. Adam Kennedy, 2B
   9. Jason Isringhausen, RHP

Talk about the outfield I least likely want to see. Hopefully this is a 'pull it together or else' type of thing. Or maybe a few people just have days off today.

by Birds on the Matt on Mar 15, 2007 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's probably
 our outfield for opening day.

by _pistol_ on Mar 15, 2007 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOT GONNA HAPPEN
DUNCAN WILL BE OUT THERE IN LEFT A LOT MORE THAN HE WAS LAST YEAR.  HIS NUMBERS AT THE PLATE ARE TO GOOD TO SIT HIM.  I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE SKIP OUT THERE IF JIMMY'S STILL HURT BUT I DON'T THINK HE'LL GET THE CHANCE TO LEAD OFF LIKE I'D LIKE TO SEE.  HE'S STILL JUST A SLAP HITTER BUT HE'S GOT GOOD SPEED AND CAN GET ON BASE.

by DJ4508 on Mar 15, 2007 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOUD NOISES
Glavine will be the opening day hurler for the metropolitans, so chances are that Dunc may not start opening day. Although, Tony may give him a reward start for last year's performance, but Spiez, Preston and So very well could be the righty side platoon for a few games to start the year. OR MAYBE THATS JUST WHAT I THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING AT.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Mar 15, 2007 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bullpen roles
It's interesting to look at the splits of our various righthanders. Career numbers:
            LH OPS-against   RH OPS-against
Springer     .802               .750
Looper       .836               .603
Thompson  .699               .681
Kinney       .630               .552
Franklin     .785               .765
Hancock     .729               .786

The biggest conclusion I draw (other than that we should mourn Kinney's absence) is that Thompson needs to pitch more in high-leverage situations. He's the one guy who's pretty effective against righthanders and lefthanders. Stick him in there in the 8th inning of a close game, and it shouldn't matter much whether the other team sends a lefty up to pinch-hit.  

As for Springer, well, he's not too effective against anyone, is he?  I had expected his numbers to be much better. Curiously, his numbers last year told a very different story: .846 OPS against for lefties and .574 for righties. Almost Looperesque.

Speaking of whom, that guy is going to see a lot of lefty-heavy lineups if he's in the rotation, isn't he?

by DCGreg on Mar 15, 2007 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gameday Link is wrong I think...
looks like you have BAL in there instead of LAN
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Mar 15, 2007 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my mistake
it's fixed now --- sorry.

wainwright picking up where izzy left off. . . .

by lboros on Mar 15, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy's first inning
gives up 3 infield hits to lead off the game, but gets out of it with no runs.

by TICY on Mar 15, 2007 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Three infield hits
Not having seen or heard the game, I'm perfectly willing to blame all of that on Tagg Bozied, and label Izzy's return an unmitigated success.  No booing coming from my office at the moment.

by tdawg on Mar 15, 2007 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh
If my memory serves right, it was a line drive back off Izzy, Pierre slapped the ball deep into the hole at short, and then there was a chopper just over Izzy's head.

I think. They might've given Izzy an error on the first one, Big Irish was laughing too much for me to decipher it.

by TICY on Mar 15, 2007 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
from what I gather nothing's been hit very hard, especially in that first inning. Things were just finding holes and breaking for the dodgers.

by Birds on the Matt on Mar 15, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amazing............ Ah the joys of Spring Training
     Jim and Juan are going to be late in joining the effort and my pulse doesn't go up at all.  This is a deep team.

by Yadier on Mar 15, 2007 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gooch is having an abominable Spring
An average of .139?!!!

Despite the usual clamor against Gooch on this blog, I usually support him. He's giving me little reason to continue doing so . . . .

It's my understanding that Gooch doesn't have any options left. A few more weeks of this, and he may just punch his ticket back to Japan.

So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Mar 15, 2007 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

today he struck out trying to bunt
Of course, Preston Wilson may also be a candidate for a year in Japan.  He is now hitting .179, and his highlights for today include being called out for interference, making an error that put both runners who scored off Wagonmaker into scoring position, and his daily strikeout.

by tdawg on Mar 15, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what do you guys think about
Bernie M mentioning Bernie Williams for the cards? I've always liked Bernie williams he's older now, but hey why not. He may be able to hit better than the afore mentioend guys...Or do you think with the arms theyll make a move for an OF? I think the injuries in the pen dampen that scenario
Kenny is a "dirt" bag?

by punchinjudy on Mar 15, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?
don't we already have outfielders piled up to our nipples capable of putting up a 260/330/430 line?

by Birds on the Matt on Mar 15, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williams...
can't post a 260-330-430... and his arm is reported to be shot.

Jose Cruz Jr can play center or left and he can post a 360 obp against selected opposition. He could've been had last August when the Dodgers released him or in November when he was a free agent... When are the Cards going to wake up and hire me as GM?

Acquire any Established Major League Starter!

by guayzimi on Mar 15, 2007 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked the idea during the offseason
He still hits well from the right side and would be a good clubhouse guy, but he doesn't compare to P-Dub fielding-wise, and that's whose job he'd be competing for. It's hard to imagine the Cardinals taking Williams over Wilson.

by liam on Mar 15, 2007 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a poor man's
Preston Wilson at this point. He should never, ever be in center field, and he can't hit righties.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 15, 2007 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting comments from TLR
in today's P-D re Gooch and Wilson.  A little more sour than I would have ever expected!

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 15, 2007 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might this mean.....
that some combo of Schumaker/Rodriguez/Ankiel makes this team and gets some decent playing time (even after Edmonds and JuanEnc are back)?
Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.

by TurdFerguson on Mar 15, 2007 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And by the way....
I think J-Rod has been underutilized by TLR and could contribute more than Gooch or Wilson.  Maybe we keep one of those guys for depth, but both?
Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.

by TurdFerguson on Mar 15, 2007 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe
Looper can play the outfield. His career avg is higher than Wilson's and So's this spring, and he has only struck out in half of his at bats.  Lets see Wilson do that.

by Stanfan6 on Mar 15, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know I've been occupied by...
MARCH MADNESS, but is anyone else alarmed by the comments made about Anthony Reyes by LaRussa....he seems loathe to say anything good about his performance, and he has been very good so far.  And J-Rod?  He seems like a decent fellow, and he really has earned a chance to be the fill in for Enc in April.  We know he can hit, he's lost some weight and seems like he wants the chance to prove he's ready.  Why not, Tony?  I love the folks at Baseball Prospectus, but wow....you think you could get a copy editor?  There are numerous spelling/grammer/missing conjunction errors throughout the whole book.  There's enough of 'em to be annoying.....

by jillsinmo on Mar 15, 2007 6:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?
There are spelling and "grammer" errors?  ;-)

You're right about Tony's BS regarding Reyes, though.  That's just f'ed up.  Mark my words, if Tony bumps him from the starting 5 for some bullshit psycho reason, there will rioting in the streets by Cardinals fans.

Or at least virtual rioting on forums like this one.

And if JRod isn't one of the guys on the 25-man come 01 April with both Jimmy and Encarneasada (genius nickname, btw, Trogdor) on the DL, I can promise you that there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Mar 15, 2007 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously
BP's book is notoriously poorly edited.

by liam on Mar 16, 2007 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The trouble, as I see it
for TLR is that he can't keep Gooch OR Wilson, since they both stink equally. So he's got to get at least one of them up to snuff to justify keeping him on the roster.

I see a pretty nice opening for J-Rod materializing here, not so sure about Skippy.

by Red in Chicago on Mar 15, 2007 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think
I read something in the PD today about how Tony said that So and P-Dub aren't earing their AB's but J-Rod is earning himself some serious playing time.

by CardinalsfanIraq on Mar 15, 2007 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duncan with another HR today
couple that with his tally of walks this ST, is it safe to start to believe the Bill James hype?
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.
I don't need Bill James, PECOTA, or any other stat analysis to tell me the kid can hit and he's only going to get better.  Play him full time and let him learn to hit righties.  In the end, why would stat geeks who can only guess on his future numbers based on such a limited sample size have more say over my own guess?  Both are just educated guesses.
Bench Juan Encarnacion!

by STLCardinalsFan on Mar 16, 2007 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my main
concern with duncan is his fielding, which I hope will develop as he gets more experience.  I think his offense will taper off some, but I don't think it will be too terrible.  I just am concerned (as I was last year) about having jenc and dunc out there...

thank god for edmonds

by MarcGldstn on Mar 16, 2007 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Russ Springer!?!
Anyone else remember the last time we failed to make the playoffs? Waaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2003.
That year we burned through alot of bad arms in the bullpen trying to find someone to hold down a lead.  It was so bad that an article was posted, I believe on ESPN, that listed the ten worst relievers of all-time by ERA to that point.  Three of them found their way onto the Cardinals roster; Esteban Yan, Pedro Bourbon, and Russ Springer.  Those are memories I don't want.
All my friends became Cardinal fans and grew up happy and liberal. I became a Cub fan and grew up imbittered and conservative." -- George Will

by wannabeGedman on Mar 15, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The shame is that according to FIP,
his good ERA numbers from the last few years have been an illusion as well. Well, except for the shitty one, his peripherals were a little better than his ERA that year.

At least Dove throws a bleepin' 97 MPH two-seamer. Goooo!

by plh903 on Mar 16, 2007 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone know a way i can
find out how our minor leaguers are doing in their spring training games?

by tnek5 on Mar 16, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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