Elimination Game (Added Poll)
Update3: Check out the poll.(End Update)
Update2: Just to clarify, once a player drops off the list, they are off for the rest of the game. (End Update)
Update: Since there are several players on the list, it would be virtually impossible to actually knock them all off with just each person voting once. Let's not stuff the proverbial ballot box (i.e. don't comment 20 times in a row) but I think voting once a day is totally reasonable. Now that some of the obvious villains are out, I'm interested to see how the rest shakes out. (End Update)
So I was bouncing around the internet procrastinating on going to the gym and doing my engineering homework, and I stumbled across what looks like it could be a fun game. It's really simple. I've created a list from the last 5 years of the more notable Cardinal players (apologies to the Ray King's and Tony Womack's of the Cardinal legacy). Each player starts out with 10 points.
The game works like this. Each commenter adds ONE point AND subtracts ONE point from any two players they want. You have to do both. When a player reaches 0 points, they're out. I think it will be fun to see who gets the boot first and such.
Or this thread will flop horribly and no one will care. In any event, it's Februrary and a few more weeks till pitchers and catchers report. Just place your plus and minus next to the person's name and change their point total. (Watch out for comments that overlap...they could be problematic)
10 - Pujols
10 - Rolen
10 - Edmonds
10 - Carpenter
10 - Marquis
10 - Suppan
10 - Izzy
10 - Morris
10 - Lankford
10 - Matheny
10 - Renteria
10 - Drew
10 - T. Martinez
I've got some villains in there and some obvious heroes... There isn't any rigorous rules to how you vote. If you want to take a point off Pujols, more power to you. Also, I know that this list leaves off a lot of Cardinal players but otherwise it takes forever.
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here we go
10 - Pujols
10 - Rolen
10 - Carpenter
10 - Suppan
10 - Izzy
10 - Morris
10 - Lankford
10 - Matheny
10 - Renteria
10 - Drew
10 - T. Martinez
9 - Marquis(-)
I'm game
11 - Rolen (+)
10 - Pujols
10 - Carpenter
10 - Suppan
10 - Izzy
10 - Morris
10 - Lankford
10 - Matheny
10 - Drew
10 - T. Martinez
9 - Marquis
9 - Renteria (-)
i'll play
11 - Rolen
11 - Pujols (+)
10 - Carpenter
10 - Suppan
10 - Izzy
10 - Morris
10 - Lankford
10 - Matheny
10 - Drew
9 - T. Martinez (-)
9 - Marquis
9 - Renteria
i'm in
11 - Rolen
12 - Pujols (+)
10 - Carpenter
10 - Suppan
10 - Izzy
10 - Morris
10 - Lankford
10 - Matheny
10 - Drew
8 - T. Martinez (-)
9 - Marquis
9 - Renteria
yup
11 - Rolen
12 - Pujols
10 - Carpenter
10 - Suppan
10 - Izzy
10 - Morris
10 - Lankford
10 - Matheny
9 - Drew (-)
7 - T. Martinez (-)
9 - Marquis
9 - Renteria
Tino's on the fast track.. can't believe drew lasted 5 comments without getting dinged! How many people have to vote before we go around again?
Sure I'm in....
12-Rolen
12-Pujols
10-Carp
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Matheny
10-Renteria (plus 1)
9-Marquis
8-Drew (minus 1)
7- Tino
here it is
12-Rolen
12-Pujols
11-Carp (plus 1)
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Matheny
10-Renteria
9-Marquis
8-Drew
6- Tino (minus 1)
by Stanfan6 on Feb 3, 2007 2:58 PM EST reply actions
here goes
12 Edmonds
12 Rolen
10 Carp
10 Supp
10 Izzy
10 Morris
10 Lankford
10 Matheny
10 Renteria
9 Marquis
8 Drew
6 Tino
All right then
12-Rolen
12-Pujols
(11)-Carp +1
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Matheny
10-Renteria
(8)-Marquis -1
8-Drew
7- Tino
yo dude
12-Rolen
(13)-Pujols +1
11-Carp
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Matheny
10-Renteria
8-Marquis
8-Drew
(6)-Tino -1
by alecoholics on Feb 3, 2007 3:11 PM EST reply actions
damn
(13)-Pujols
12-Edmonds
12-Rolen
11-Carp
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Matheny
10-Renteria
8-Marquis
8-Drew
6-Tino
by alecoholics on Feb 3, 2007 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Tino should have five....
Pujols 14
Tino 4
Should be the proper update.
im in
by Cardkid14 on Feb 3, 2007 3:25 PM EST reply actions
i think this is now current:
13-Rolen
12-Edmonds
11-Carp
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
8-Marquis
8-Drew
4-Tino
Here I go
13-Rolen
12-Edmonds
11-Carp
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
7-Marquis (-)
8-Drew
4-Tino
by Chicago Cardinals on Feb 3, 2007 3:46 PM EST reply actions
Here's Mine
13-Rolen
13-Edmonds +
11-Carp
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
7-Marquis
7-Drew - Nancy Drew is the biggest disappointment on the list
4-Tino
by whatapartier on Feb 3, 2007 3:55 PM EST reply actions
Carp needs more credit
13-Rolen
13-Edmonds
12-Carp +
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
7-Marquis
7-Drew
3-Tino -
my turn
13 - Rolen
13 - Edmonds
12 - Carpenter
11 - Izzy (+1)
10 - Ray
10 - Edgar
10 - MattyMo
9 - Soup (-1)
9 - Matheny
7 - Marquis
7 - Drew
3 - TIno
It's time somebody took Soup a peg down or two, and the team career saves leader get some more credit.
by sjoshi on Feb 3, 2007 4:44 PM EST reply actions
I agree - viva el Carpo!
13-Carp +
13-Rolen
13-Edmonds
10-Supp
10-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
7-Drew
6-Marquis -
3-Tino
oops - overlapped w/ sjoshi
13-Carp +
13-Rolen
13-Edmonds
11-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Supp
9-Matheny
7-Drew
6-Marquis -
3-Tino
Thanks
by BTown Birds fan on Feb 3, 2007 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
14-Carp (+)
13-Rolen
13-Edmonds
11-Izzy
10-Morris
10-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Supp
9-Matheny
7-Drew
5-Marquis (-)
3-Tino
ok
15-Carp
13-Rolen
13-Edmonds
10-Izzy
10-Morris
11-Lankford (+)
10-Renteria
9-Supp
10-Matheny
6-Drew
5-Marquis
2-Tino (-)
my turn
15-Carp
13-Rolen
13-Edmonds
11-the underappreciated Izzy(+)
10-Morris
11-Lankford
10-Renteria
9-Supp
10-Matheny
6-Drew
5-Marquis
1-Tino (-) (Who wants to put him out of his misery?)
Matty Mo deserves one
15 - Carp
13 - Rolen
13 - Edmonds
11 - Lankford
11 - Morris (+)
10 - Izzy
10 - Renteria
9 - Matheny (-) for cutting his hand on that f-ing knife; who knows re: Ankiel!?
9 - Supp
6 - Drew
5 - Marquis (he did help bring us Wainwright)
2 - Tino
I'm up
15-Carp
14-Edmonds (+1)
13-Rolen
11-Lankford
11-Morris
11-Izzy
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
9-Supp
6-Drew
4-Marquis (-1)
1-Tino
I think that is right..
Bye Tino
15-Carp
14-Edmonds
13-Rolen
11-Lankford
11-Morris
11-Izzy
11-Renteria (+1)
9-Matheny
9-Supp
6-Drew
4-Marquis
0-Tino (-1)
gotta stick it to jay dee
15-Carp
14-Edmonds
13-Rolen
11-Lankford
11-Morris
11-Izzy
11-Renteria
9-Matheny
9-Supp
5-Drew (-1)
4-Marquis
Screw Drew
16-Pujols
15-Carp
14-Edmonds
13-Rolen
12-Lankford (+1)
11-Morris
11-Izzy
11-Renteria
9-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew (-1)
4-Marquis
carried us where?
The '96 team had lots of key contributors, but if anyone put the team on his back and carried them it was Jordan, not Lankford.
My feelings on Sugar Ray are mixed in general. On one hand he never really lived up to his potential as a 5-tool player and always struck out too much. He fucked up his shoulder making a great catch and I certaintly can't fault him for that, but for much of his career it seemed as if he was at his best when the least was on the line. To this day, anytime anyone hits a meaningless HR in the 9th inning (or scores a meaningless TD in the 4th Quarter for that matter) I call it a "Ray Lankford Homerun".
Ray did have great range in the outfield, and he did have some very good years at the plate - but I can't help but think with his talent he should be headed to Cooperstwon w/ a World Series ring on his finger.
Still, he did hit more HRs at the old Busch Stadium than anyone else, even homering in his final career AB to help the 2004 Cardinals win their 105th game of the season. So he's got that going for him...which is nice.
Eh...
And with RISP, his stats actually improved over the course of his career, even if somewhat marginally. Having Mark McGwire and his rock-like mobility constantly getting walked ahead of you is certainly something that will make you swing for the fences.
No love for Strike Out Ray
16-Pujols
15-Carp
14-Edmonds
13-Rolen
12-Izzy (+1)
11-Lankford (-1)
11-Morris
11-Renteria
9-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
4-Marquis
Ray is underrated
15-Carp
14-Edmonds
13-Rolen
12-Izzy
12-Lankford (+1)
11-Morris
10-Renteria (-1)
9-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
4-Marquis
And EdGAR still draws my ire after his departure.
My 2 cents
15-Carp
14-Edmonds
13-Rolen
12-Izzy
12-Lankford
11-Morris
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
3-Marquis (-1)
by jason095 on Feb 3, 2007 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Getting in my licks
15-Carp
15-Edmonds +1
13-Rolen
11-Izzy -1
12-Lankford
11-Morris
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
3-Marquis
Edmonds - cause I'm still revved up from Valatan thread from a couple days ago.
Izzy - not cause of any true dislike but I owe him for at least ten cardiac episodes from 2006.
My votes
15-Carp
15-Edmonds
14-Rolen +1
12-Lankford
11-Izzy
11-Morris -1
10-Renteria
9-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
3-Marquis
Matty Mo was my guy for a very long time, until he went to SF...I have never liked that team. I didnt like them when i was young because their jerseys are horrid...But i hate them now because i think the ownership is made up of a bunch of morons...and when i think of the Giants I think of A. Barry Bonds and then B. Losing Matty Mo and Mikey Matheney...
Stupid Giants
One goalie's opinion
15-Carp
15-Edmonds
14-Rolen
12-Lankford
11-Izzy
11-Morris
10-Renteria
10-Matheny +1 (I've had two concussions myself... it's a darn shame his career had to end that way.)
9-Supp
4-Drew
2-Marquis -1 (Now, lemme get this straight... Leo Mazzone and Dave Duncan couldn't get Marquis to pitch any better... and Larry Freakin' Rothschild is gonna "fix" him???? Hoo boy...)
a
15-Carp
15-Edmonds
14-Rolen
12-Lankford
11-Izzy
11-Morris
10-Renteria -1
10-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
3-Marquis +1 (from what I saw, Marquis seemed to be genuinely cheering for the cards during the World Series and having a great time, even though he wasn't pitching and the fans hated him. that wins him a point in my book. )
by PGeorge @ Viva El Birdos on Feb 4, 2007 11:18 AM EST reply actions
forgot to change renteria
15-Carp
15-Edmonds
14-Rolen
12-Lankford
11-Izzy
11-Morris
9 -Renteria -1
10-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
3-Marquis +1 (from what I saw, Marquis seemed to be genuinely cheering for the cards during the World Series and having a great time, even though he wasn't pitching and the fans hated him. that wins him a point in my book. )
by PGeorge @ Viva El Birdos on Feb 4, 2007 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
If only he could pitch...
Still the best all-around 3b in baseball
15-Carp
15-Edmonds
15-Rolen +1
12-Lankford
11-Izzy
11-Morris
10-Renteria
10-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
2-Marquis -1
I remember back in '98 or '99, listening to the game on the radio and Shannon saying in regards to Rolen: "Wouldn't this guy look great in Cardinal red?" How right he was.
Cool game
16-Edmonds +1
15-Carp
15-Rolen
12-Lankford
11-Izzy
11-Morris
10-Renteria
10-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
1-Marquis -1
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 4, 2007 2:55 PM EST reply actions
Buh BYE
17-Edmonds (+1)
15-Carp
15-Rolen
12-Lankford
11-Izzy
11-Morris
10-Renteria
10-Matheny
9-Supp
4-Drew
0-Marquis (-1)
I'd rather be kicked in the junk than watch Marqueen pitch another game for the Birds. Luckily for the boys, it's not going to come down to that. I always thought Jason would "look good" in Cubswear anyhow.
Bye, Bye Marquis
16 Edmonds
16 Rolen (+1)
15 Carp
12 Lankford
11 Izzy
11 Morris
10 Matheny
10 Renteria
9 Supp
4 Drew
eliminated J Marquis (-)
Well, I guess I got beat to the punch
17 Edmonds
16 Rolen
15 Carp
12 Lankford
11 Izzy
11 Morris
10 Matheny
9 Renteria (-)
9 Supp
4 Drew
'07 Cy Young
17 Edmonds
16 Carp (+)
16 Rolen
12 Lankford
11 Izzy
11 Morris
10 Matheny
9 Renteria
9 Supp
3 Drew (-)
Next
17 Pujols
16 Carp
12 Lankford
11 Izzy
11 Morris
10 Matheny
9 Renteria
8 Supp (-)
3 Drew
Renteria was good at the end
18 Jed
18 Pujols (+)
16 Carp
12 Lankford
11 Izzy
11 Morris
10 Matheny
8 Renteria (-)
8 Supp
3 Drew
too bad MArquis and Tino are already gone, I really wanted to go after them :(
Rolen
18 Pujols
16 Rolen
16 Carp
12 Lankford
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
8 Renteria
8 Supp
3 Drew
Oops, now Morris was left off
18 Pujols
16 Rolen
16 Carp
12 Lankford
11 Morris
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
8 Renteria
8 Supp
3 Drew
Ditto on E-6
18 Pujols
16 Rolen
16 Carp
12 Lankford
11 Morris
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
9 Supp (+)
7 Renteria (-)
3 Drew
by MikeND05 on Feb 4, 2007 11:10 PM EST reply actions
asdf
18 Edmonds
16 Rolen
16 Carp
12 Lankford
10 Morris(-)
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
9 Supp
7 Renteria
3 Drew
One is CARP and one is CRAP...
18 Edmonds
16 Rolen
17 Carp (+)
12 Lankford
10 Morris
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
9 Supp
7 Renteria
2 Drew (-)
Souper-man and the Sissy-man
18 Edmonds
16 Rolen
17 Carp
12 Lankford
10 Morris
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
10 Supp (+)
7 Renteria
1 Drew (-)
No more Droooooooooooooooooooooooo
18 Edmonds
16 Rolen
18 Carp (+)
12 Lankford
10 Morris
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
10 Supp
7 Renteria
0 Drew (-)
by barnowl77 on Feb 5, 2007 8:02 AM EST reply actions
Hmmm.....
18 Edmonds
17 Rolen +
18 Carp
12 Lankford
10 Morris
11 Izzy
10 Matheny
10 Supp
6 Renteria -
0 Drew
Game
18 Edmonds
17 Rolen
18 Carp
12 Lankford
10 Morris
11 Izzy -
11 Matheny +
10 Supp
6 Renteria
0 Drew
"Forget about
by Edmonds is baseball on Feb 5, 2007 9:26 AM EST reply actions
love me some Matty Mo!
18 Edmonds
17 Rolen
18 Carp
11 Morris (+)
11 Izzy
11 Matheny
11 Lankford (-)
10 Supp
6 Renteria
Hmmm...
18 Edmonds
18 Rolen (+)
18 Carp
11 Morris
10 Izzy (-)
11 Matheny
11 Lankford
10 Supp
6 Renteria
Matty Mo Love
18 Edmonds
18 Rolen
18 Carp
12 Morris (+)
10 Izzy
11 Matheny
10 Lankford (-)
10 Supp
6 Renteria
by stlmapman on Feb 5, 2007 10:13 AM EST reply actions
I can't forgive the hunting knife incident
18 Edmonds
18 Rolen
18 Carp
11 Morris
11 Lankford
10 Matheny (-)
10 Izzy
10 Suppan
6 Renteria
Fun game
18 Edmonds
18 Rolen
18 Carp
11 Morris
11 Lankford
11 Suppan (+)
10 Matheny
10 Izzy
5 Renteria (-)
Edgar's dropped, so figured I'd do my part to speed him off the list.
As for the + -- Soup was never as talented or spectacular as Albert, Jed, Carp, Rolen, or Morris at their peak, but the guy made the most of his average talent in some of the biggest games for this franchise in the last few years (e.g. NLCS game 7 in '04 and '06). Gotta give him props for that.
tied in bottom of the 6th, bases loaded, 1 out
When Suppan escaped the jam, he neutralized the Mets momentum, and it was GAME ON!
We've seen so many of our guys (even the good ones) wilt under that kind of pressure in a hostile environment - watching Suppan (and later Wainwright) hold it all together with a spot in the World Series on the line - he's earned a place in the Cardinals Pantheon as far as I'm concerned.
That being said, I hope we light him up every time we see him from this point forward.
comment number 70
18 Edmonds
18 Rolen
18 Carp
11 Morris
12 Suppan (+)
10 Lankford(-)
10 Matheny
10 Izzy
5 Renteria
I wanted to take it from Morris... I could never figure that guy out... but how Lankford is still on this list I don't know.
#71
19 Carp (+1)
18 Edmonds
18 Rolen
12 Suppan
10 Morris (-1)
10 Lankford
10 Matheny
10 Izzy
5 Renteria
Had to take it from Morris.
lankford should be at 9
by TheFranchise9 on Feb 5, 2007 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Will never forget Gm 6 and 7 of '04 NLCS....
20 Pujols
19 Carp
19 Edmonds (+)
18 Rolen
12 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Matheny
10 Izzy
8 Lankford (-)
5 Renteria
A little love for Rolen
19 Carp
19 Edmonds
19 Rolen (+)
12 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Matheny
10 Izzy
7 Lankford (-)
5 Renteria
I can't believe Lankford is still on here!
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 5, 2007 2:42 PM EST reply actions
Ray Ray
19 Carp
19 Edmonds
19 Rolen
12 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Matheny
10 Izzy
6 Lankford (-)
5 Renteria
I really like Ray, but he's out of his league here and needs to be gone.
by themang on Feb 5, 2007 2:53 PM EST reply actions
Once a day it is, then.
20 Edmonds (+)
19 Carp
19 Rolen
12 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Izzy
9 Matheny (-) (I blame his hunting knife accident for ruining Ankiel.)
6 Lankford
5 Renteria
How long can this go on?
21 Pujols
20 Edmonds
19 Carp
19 Rolen
12 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Izzy
9 Matheny
7 Lankford (+) for old times' sake
4 Renteria (-) for taking Red Sox $'s
Take two
20 Edmonds
19 Carp
19 Rolen
13 The unflappable Suppan (+)
10 Morris
10 Izzy
8 The unproductive Matheny (-)
7 Lankford
4 Renteria
'Cause he was a defensive stud
20 Edmonds
19 Carp
19 Rolen
13 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Izzy
9 Matheny (+)
7 Lankford
3 Renteria (-)
Second time through the lineup for me
20 Edmonds
20 Carp (+)
19 Rolen
12 Suppan (-)
10 Morris
10 Izzy
8 Matheny
7 Lankford
4 Renteria
Carp has a large load to carry this year, thanks to Suppan taking the money and running.
Update with aet15
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
19 Rolen
12 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Izzy
9 Matheny
7 Lankford
3 Renteria
Question..
21 Pujols
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
19 Rolen
13 Suppan (+)
10 Morris
10 Izzy
9 Matheny
6 Lankford (-)
3 Renteria
Well since this thread seemed to go over
I figure it's February and no one really has anything better to do anyway. :o)
Comment #85
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
19 Rolen
13 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Izzy
8 Matheny (-)
6 Lankford
3 Renteria
Poo - Let's all not forget how wonderful it is to have the nationally recognized best player in baseball on our team - that came from our minor leagues - not some quarter of a billion ARod signing
Matheny - the ruining of Ankiel remark really hit home with me, still love the guy but he's out of his league on this list
#86 2nd vote
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
19 Rolen
13 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Izzy
7 Matheny (-)
6 Lankford
3 Renteria
I agree that Matheny only has his defense going for him.
by Chicago Cardinals on Feb 5, 2007 7:09 PM EST reply actions
!st vote
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
19 Rolen
14 Suppan(+)
10 Morris
10 Izzy
07 Matheny
06 Lankford
02 Renteria(-)
I'll never forget Game 7 of the NLCS, never.
I'll never forget thinking that Renteria would stay for less, never.
by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Feb 5, 2007 7:23 PM EST reply actions
$40 million mistake
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
20 Rolen (+)
14 Suppan
10 Morris
10 Izzy
7 Matheny
6 Lankford
1 Renteria (-)
2nd vote
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
20 Rolen
14 Suppan
10 Izzy
9 Morris (-)
7 Matheny
7 Lankford (+)
1 Renteria
Morris had a handful of great seasons, but he never fully lived up to his ace billing except for a couple of years.
How much worse would the '90s have been without Ray?
by MikeND05 on Feb 5, 2007 8:40 PM EST reply actions
2nd vote for Z.
23 Pujols
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
20 Rolen
15 Suppan (+)
9 Izzy (-)
9 Morris
7 Matheny
7 Lankford
1 Renteria
2nd vote
24 Pujols (+)
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
20 Rolen
15 Suppan
9 Izzy
9 Morris
7 Matheny
7 Lankford
0 Renteria (-)
2nd vote here
24 Pujols
20 Edmonds
20 Carp
20 Rolen
14 Suppan (-1)
10 Izzy (+1)
9 Morris
7 Matheny
7 Lankford
Best Cardinals pitcher I've ever seen, (2nd vote)
21 Carp (+1)
20 Edmonds
20 Rolen
14 Suppan
10 Izzy
9 Morris
7 Matheny
6 Lankford (-1)
2nd vote...
24 Pujols
21 Carp
20 Edmonds
20 Rolen
14 Suppan
9 Izzy -1
9 Morris
7 Matheny
7 Lankford (+1)
Come on! Long haul here!
21 Carp
20 Edmonds
20 Rolen
13 Suppan (-1)
9 Izzy
9 Morris
8 Lankford (+1)
7 Matheny
2nd vote
25 Pujols (+)
21 Carp
20 Edmonds
20 Rolen
13 Suppan
9 Izzy
9 Morris
7 Lankford (-)
7 Matheny
My wife's family is having a "superhero" themed birthday party. The kids will be Power Rangers. She asked me who I wanted to be and I said "the superhero of baseball - Albert Pujols. He transcends mere humanity" She shook her head and walked away and I will indeed go as Pujols.
I think I have moved beyond man-crush and I now border on obsession.
2nd vote
21 Carp
20 Edmonds
20 Rolen
13 Suppan
9 Morris
8 Izzy (-)
8 Matheny (+)
7 Lankford
by barnowl77 on Feb 6, 2007 7:49 AM EST reply actions
Who does number 2 work for?
21 Carp
20 Edmonds
20 Rolen (+)
13 Suppan
9 Morris
8 Matheny
7 Izzy (-)
7 Lankford
Hunting Knife (2nd vote)
21 Carp
21 Edmonds (+)
21 Rolen
13 Suppan
9 Morris
7 Matheny (-)
7 Izzy
7 Lankford
i haven't weighed in for a while
21 Carp
21 Edmonds
21 Rolen
12 Suppan (-)
10 Morris (+)
7 Matheny
7 Izzy
7 Lankford
c'mon ---- supps has more points than matty mo? the 3-yr itinerant rumprotation guy over the homegrown ace?
A vote for classy Rolen
22 Rolen (+)
21 Carp
21 Edmonds
11 Suppan (-)
10 Morris
7 Matheny
7 Izzy
7 Lankford
My votes for today
22 Rolen
21 Carp
21 Edmonds
11 Suppan
10 Morris
7 Matheny
7 Izzy
6 Lankford (-) (he's not.)
hmmm...
23 Carp (+)
22 Rolen
21 Edmonds
11 Suppan
10 Morris
7 Izzy
6 Lankford
6 Matheny (-)
Carpenter - best pitcher I'll witness in a Cardinals uniform in my lifetime???
Sorry Mike, I'm not nice to the defense only catchers...
damn you math
22 Carp (+)
22 Rolen
21 Edmonds
11 Suppan
10 Morris
7 Izzy
6 Lankford
6 Matheny (-)
Save Matty Mo!
22 Rolen
21 Carp
21 Edmonds
11 Suppan
11 Morris (+)
7 Matheny
7 Izzy
5 Lankford (-)
Ray needs to go bye bye. If he had half the guts Matty Mo had....man.
comment overlap - current total
22 Rolen
22 Carp
21 Edmonds
11 Suppan
11 Morris
7 Izzy
6 Matheny
5 Lankford
My Tuesday vote
26 Pujols
23 Rolen (+) real WS MVP
22 Carp
21 Edmonds
11 Morris
10 Suppan (-)
7 Izzy
6 Matheny
5 Lankford
Third Vote- MVPs
26 Pujols
22 Rolen (-) real WS MVP
22 Carp
21 Edmonds
11 Morris
11 Suppan (+)
7 Izzy
6 Matheny
5 Lankford
2nd vote
22 Rolen
22 Carp
21 Edmonds
12 Morris (+)
11 Suppan
7 Izzy
6 Matheny
4 Lankford (-)
Giving Morris some love here. Great player for awhile. Sorry Ray-I have to take you down again. Nothing personal.
by themang on Feb 6, 2007 1:01 PM EST reply actions
2nd Vote...
22 Rolen
22 Carp
21 Edmonds
13 Morris (+)
11 Suppan
7 Izzy
6 Matheny
3 Lankford (-)
Used to love Matty Mo's DK-esque curveball. My biggest memories of Lankford were a weird batting stance and a bunch of strikeouts when it mattered.
Third vote
22 Rolen
23 Carp (+)
21 Edmonds
13 Morris
11 Suppan
7 Izzy
6 Matheny
2 Lankford (-)
Carp ought to get extra votes for being such a bargain all this time.
Lankford's almost gone!
22 Rolen
23 Carp
22 Edmonds (+)
13 Morris
11 Suppan
7 Izzy
6 Matheny
1 Lankford (-)
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 6, 2007 3:16 PM EST reply actions
My vote
22 Rolen
23 Carp
22 Edmonds
13 Morris
10 Suppan (-)
8 Izzy (+)
6 Matheny
1 Lankford
by cardinalsadvocate on Feb 6, 2007 4:12 PM EST reply actions
hold on Ray!
22 Rolen
23 Carp
22 Edmonds
13 Morris
10 Suppan
7 Izzy (-)
6 Matheny
2 Lankford (+)
My Tuesday vote
22 Rolen
23 Carp
23 Edmonds (+) just thought about Game 6 again...LOVE IT
13 Morris
10 Suppan
6 Izzy (-) often underrated but doesn't belong here
6 Matheny
2 Lankford
by stlmapman on Feb 6, 2007 5:42 PM EST reply actions
I agree with mapman
26 Pujols
24 Edmonds (+)
23 Carp
22 Rolen
13 Morris
10 Suppan
6 Matheny
5 Izzy (-)
2 Lankford
by PGeorge @ Viva El Birdos on Feb 6, 2007 6:00 PM EST reply actions
Third time is the charm
25 Edmonds (+)
23 Carp
22 Rolen
13 Morris
9 Suppan (-)
6 Matheny
5 Izzy
2 Lankford
Edmonds coming back made my offseason. He will bridge the gap to Rasmus and gives his all every day. Suppan would still look good in our rotation, but not as Brewer. Who will be the first Cardinal to take him deep?
Soup!!
26 Edmonds
23 Carp
22 Rolen
13 Morris
9 Suppan (+)
6 Matheny
5 Izzy
1 Lankford (-)
Key to the WS Trophy and an Awesome guy...
Ray is down to his last pitch, hmm will he strikeout?
Hmmm
26 Pujols
26 Edmonds
23 Carp
22 Rolen
13 Morris
8 Suppan (-)
6 Matheny
6 Izzy (+)
1 Lankford
3
26 Edmonds
24 Carp (+)
22 Rolen
12 Morris (-)
8 Suppan
6 Matheny
6 Izzy
1 Lankford
by MikeND05 on Feb 6, 2007 11:24 PM EST reply actions
Day 4 Vote....Ray is GONE!
26 Edmonds
24 Carp
22 Rolen
12 Morris
8 Suppan
7 Izzy (+)
6 Matheny
0 Lankford (-)
I gotta admit I feel pretty happy to get to eliminate Ray from this. And I gotta give Izzy some dap. Here's to a full recovery for our stopper!
Well its Wednesday in the 'Lou,
27 Edmonds
25 Pujols (-)
24 Carp
22 Rolen
12 Morris
9 Suppan (+)
6 Izzy
6 Matheny
Long live Tom Lawless!
27 Edmonds
26 Pujols (+)
24 Carp
22 Rolen
12 Morris
9 Suppan
6 Matheny
5 Izzy (-)
how in the world
26 Edmonds (-)
26 Pujols (+)
24 Carp
22 Rolen
12 Morris
9 Suppan
6 Izzy
6 Matheny
Problem solved.
So when does this end?
26 Pujols
25 Carp (+)
22 Rolen
12 Morris
8 Suppan (-)
6 Izzy
6 Matheny
To Carp for saving us money, and to Supps for leaving for money.
well
Carp moves up with the leaders and Matheny moves closer to zero.
26 Edmonds
26 Pujols
26 Carp (+)
22 Rolen
12 Morris
8 Suppan
6 Izzy
5 Matheny(-)
seems like
on the other hand, i'm saddened not just by the lack of love for ray. for a time, he was the face of the club. he was certainly not anywhere near the mv3, but i've got some great memories of heroic performances on his part; both offensively and defensively. he was a constant as the outfield positions around him were effectively rotating doors.
27 Pujols (+)
26 Edmonds
25 Carp
22 Rolen
12 Morris
7 Suppan (-)
6 Izzy
6 Matheny
adjusted for azruavatar
26 Edmonds
26 Carp
22 Rolen
12 Morris
7 Suppan (-)
6 Izzy
5 Matheny
Second Vote....
26 Edmonds
26 Carp
23 Rolen (plus)
12 Morris
6 Suppan (minus)
6 Izzy
5 Matheny
For playoffs alone
27 Pujols
26 Edmonds
25 Carp
22 Rolen
11 Morris (-)
8 Suppan (+)
6 Izzy
6 Matheny
Always liked Matheny, hated to see him go
26 Edmonds
26 Carp
23 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Suppan
6 Matheny +
5 Izzy -
by Edmonds is baseball on Feb 7, 2007 10:39 AM EST reply actions
I'm with you
26 Edmonds
26 Carp
23 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Suppan
7 Matheny +
4 Izzy -
I was a bit nervous that somehow Lankford was going to have made a comeback.
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 7, 2007 10:52 AM EST reply actions
We missed musial6's last post... scores should be
26 Edmonds
26 Carp
23 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Suppan
8 Matheny +
3 Izzy -
My vote for today.
26 Carp +
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
11 Morris
8 Matheny
7 Suppan
2 Izzy -
I'm not an Izzy hater, but we're getting down to the point where he and Matheny are the next logical choices out.
Izzy's a mediocre closer, Matheny, although great defensively, was pretty bad offensively, so it seems like it's their time.
i gotta push back on this
27 Pujols
27 Carp
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Suppan
7 Matheny -
3 Izzy +
My 3rd vote - same as my first
26 Carp
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Matheny (-)
7 Suppan
2 Izzy
Good to see Morris have a few more votes than Suppan. While he didn't win a Series with the hometown nine, he put up some excellent performances in the postseason. Especially in 2001. He just happened to go against other stellar performances.
D'oh!
27 Pujols
27 Carp
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Suppan
6 Matheny
3 Izzy
I need more sleep
by BozCardsFanSF on Feb 7, 2007 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
the current count
28 Pujols
27 Carp
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Suppan
6 Matheny
3 Izzy
1st3rd2death
27 Carp
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
12 Morris(+)
7 Matheny
6 Suppan(-)
3 Izzy
Morris had a great run.
by 1st3rd2death on Feb 7, 2007 11:41 AM EST reply actions
this is fun
27 Carp
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
12 Morris
7 Matheny (+) for being a warrior
5 Suppan (-) At least he got paid
3 Izzy
New day, another vote
27 Carp
26 Edmonds
23 Rolen
12 Morris
8 Matheny (+)
4 Suppan (-)
3 Izzy
wednesday morning
27 Carp
27 Edmonds (+)
23 Rolen
12 Morris
8 Matheny
3 Suppan (-)
3 Izzy
i hope i do this right
27 carp
27 edmonds
23 rolen
12 morris
8 matheny
3 Izzy
2 suppan (-)
by Willie51 on Feb 7, 2007 12:23 PM EST reply actions
2nd Vote
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
23 Rolen
12 Morris
8 Matheny
4 Izzy (+)
2 Suppan (-)
by cardinalsadvocate on Feb 7, 2007 12:23 PM EST reply actions
adjusted
27 carp
27 edmonds
23 rolen
12 morris
8 matheny
4 Izzy (+)
1 suppan (-)
by cardinalsadvocate on Feb 7, 2007 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Im in...
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
23 Rolen
11 Morris (-)
8 Matheny
5 Izzy (+) Think about where we'd be if he never was
1 Suppan
by SethWestern on Feb 7, 2007 12:34 PM EST reply actions
Sorry Soup...
27 carp
27 edmonds
23 rolen
12 morris
8 matheny
4 Izzy
0 suppan (-)
Soup, you were my wife's favorite player, so sorry. Thanks for letting me see greatness, Albert.
wed vote
27 carp
27 edmonds
24 rolen (+)
11 morris (-)
8 matheny
4 Izzy
I can't wait to see a fully healthy scott rolen again. And I loved watching MM pitch- he was my favorite pitcher- but he broke my heart when he left.
Okay - don't know how I missed this
31 Pujols (+1)
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
24 Rolen
11 Morris
7 Matheney (-1)
4 Izzy
I love Matheney, but as far as the greatest players and their contributions, he has to take the hit in this company.
My dog is named after him
31 Pujols
27 Carp
26 Edmonds (-1)
25 Rolen (+1)
11 Morris
7 Matheney
4 Izzy
my vote doesn't count?
by SethWestern on Feb 7, 2007 1:30 PM EST reply actions
3rd vote for me
27 Carp
26 Edmonds
25 Rolen
10 Morris
6 Matheny (-)
6 Izzy (+)
Boy it must be tough to be a closer. One bad season and everyone forgets what a stud you once were and how valuable your were to the team.
It did hurt taking Matheny down a notch, but someone has to.
by themang on Feb 7, 2007 1:47 PM EST reply actions
The Arizona Vote
27 Carp
27 Edmonds (+)
25 Rolen
10 Morris
6 Izzy
5 Matheny(-)
Izzy doesn't get nearly enough credit here
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
25 Rolen
9 Morris (-)
7 Izzy (+)
5 Matheny
Is this allowed?
31 Pujols
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
25 Rolen
9 Morris
7 Izzy
4 Matheny (-)
1 Renteria (+)
If not, disregard.
its not my game
by PGeorge @ Viva El Birdos on Feb 7, 2007 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
yeah -- sorry Dude
Otherwise we'd have players popping back up periodically and it would never end. (The game does conceivable end with one player). Save them while they live!
yeah -- sorry Dude
Otherwise we'd have players popping back up periodically and it would never end. (The game does conceivably end with one player). Save them while they live!
Adjusted to remove "The Dudes" vote
And, adding my Wednesday vote:
31 Pujols
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
25 Rolen
10 Morris (+)
7 Izzy
4 Matheny (-) don't tell my daughter
my 2nd vote
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
26 Rolen (+)
10 Morris
7 Izzy
3 Matheny (-)
Matheny: nice guy, sad to see how his career ended, etc., but he doesn't belong in this company.
I give Rolen a plus this time, for putting up this line in the 2007 WS: .421/.476/.737
whoops -- I meant the 2006 World Series
a
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
26 Rolen
10 Morris
7 Izzy
2 Matheny (-)
by JxMetal on Feb 7, 2007 5:29 PM EST reply actions
Save Matheny
27 Carp
27 Edmonds
26 Rolen
10 Morris
6 Izzy (-)
3 Matheny (+)
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 7, 2007 8:17 PM EST reply actions
sir albert
33 pujols +
27 carp
27 jed
26 scotty
9 matty mo
5 izzy -
4 matheny
by luvthemcards on Feb 7, 2007 9:46 PM EST reply actions
Cy Young
28 carp (+)
27 jed
26 scotty
8 matty mo (-)
5 izzy
4 matheny
by MikeND05 on Feb 7, 2007 9:48 PM EST reply actions
A defensive specialist and a bunch of all stars
28 carp
27 jed
27 scotty (+)
8 matty mo
5 izzy
3 matheny (-)
Thursday votes
28 carp
28 scotty ballgame (+)
27 jimmy baseball
8 matty mo
4 izzy (-)
3 matheny
my attempt to rid this page of matty mo
28 carp
29 scotty ballgame (+)
27 jimmy baseball
7 matty mo(-)
4 izzy
3 matheny
Thursday vote (#5)
Mike Matheny was the best catcher we have had in two and a half decades. Izzy on the other hand was (is?) a good closer, but not better than Todd Worrell or Lee Smith.
33 pujols
28 carpenter
28 rolen
27 edmonds
8 morris
4 izzy (-)
4 matheny (+)
Correction for eda's vote
28 carpenter
29 rolen (+)
27 edmonds
7 morris (-)
4 izzy
4 matheny
Matheney = Izzy?!
33 pujols
28 carpenter
29 rolen
27 edmonds
7 morris
5 izzy (+)
3 matheny (-)
Thursday Vote (#3)
28 carpenter
29 rolen
27 edmonds
6 izzy (+) He's is the Cardinals career saves leader
6 morris (-) He and Matheny just don't belong with the other five
3 matheny
by cardinalsadvocate on Feb 8, 2007 2:43 AM EST reply actions
# 3
29 rolen
28 carpenter
28 edmonds (+)
7 morris
5 izzy (-)
2 matheny
by Edmonds is baseball on Feb 8, 2007 9:04 AM EST reply actions
thursdays vote
29 rolen
28 carpenter
28 edmonds
7 morris
5 izzy
1 matheny (-)
This will get really interesting when it comes down to removing Edmonds, Carpenter or Rolen.
sorry, Mike
29 rolen
28 carpenter
28 edmonds
8 morris (+) (remember this series?)
5 izzy
0 matheny (-)
I remember that series.
Good bye, Mike
29 Rolen
29 Carp (+)
28 Edmonds
7 Morris
5 Izzy
0 Matheny (-)
Whoops - I'll take it away from Izzy instead, then
34 Pujols
29 Rolen
29 Carp
28 Edmonds
8 Morris
4 Izzy (-)
Now it gets tough
29 Rolen
29 Carp
29 Edmonds
6 Morris (-)
5 Izzy (+)
by themang on Feb 8, 2007 10:13 AM EST reply actions
Which one of these is not like the others,
(Plus a correction for samael88 above)
35 Pujols
30 Carp (+)
29 Rolen
28 Edmonds
5 Morris (-)
5 Izzy
Mabye my recent memory if too dominant, but those bottom two don't fit with the big four.
Thursday vote
30 Carp
30 Rolen (+)
28 Edmonds
5 Morris
4 Izzy (-)
Yay! Another Vote!
30 Carp
30 Rolen
28 Edmonds
5 Morris
3 Izzy (-)
It's time for Izzy to go. 6th on this list is nothing shameful.
New day, new vote
30 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds (+)
5 Morris
2 Izzy (-)
I love Izzy, but I think Matty Mo deserves to make the final 5. Plus, how happy was I when I heard Jimmy E was coming back for 2 more!!!
curious...
by TheFranchise9 on Feb 8, 2007 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
original 10
by TheFranchise9 on Feb 8, 2007 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
Supp had some ups and downs as did Matheny...
Renteria might have disappeared without a positive but slowly.
A sure thing...
31 Carp (+)
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
5 Morris
1 Izzy (-)
Thanks Carp, for being a sure ace. Thanks Izzy for being a sure heart attack.
Thursday's vote
31 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
6 Morris (+)
1 Izzy
Thursday's voteto save the all-time saves leader
31 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
5 Morris (-)
2 Izzy (+)
Thursday's vote
35 Pujols
31 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
5 Morris (-)
2 Izzy (+)
Morris was the staff ace for a couple of years, and he deserves credit for that. But Izzy has been a great closer for a longer time period, despite his injuries.
By the way, I don't think any of the top four on this list will ever be eliminated; we'll basically be canceling each other's votes as one or two points shift from player to player. This is a fun game, though!
Shouldn't the total read as follows?
35 Pujols
31 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
6 Morris (-)
3 Izzy (+)
sorry...
The mixed feelings for Izzy are pretty
35 Pujols
31 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
4 Izzy (+)
3 Morris (-)
thursday
31 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
3 Izzy (-)
4 Morris (+)
Agreed with lawman
35 Pujols
31 Carp
30 Rolen
29 Edmonds
4 Izzy (+)
3 Morris (-)
by MikeND05 on Feb 8, 2007 12:41 PM EST reply actions
Thursdays Vote
31 Carp
30 Scotty
30 Jimmy Ballgame (+)
3 Izzy
3 Matty Mo
Does the final 4 from this elimination game go to the next round against Stan, Gibby, Sweet Lou, Red, Country and The Rajah?
Thursday vote
32 carp
31 rolen (+1)
30 jimmy
2 matt morris (-1)
2 izzy
Bye Izzy
32 carp
31 rolen
31 jimmy (+1)
2 morris
0 izzy (-1)
Izzy, I don't hate you like some do, but I still remember the disappointment I felt when you blew that save in DC last year.
by stlmapman on Feb 8, 2007 4:07 PM EST reply actions
The man was pitching with a bum landing leg
I'm going to pour some liquor on the ground for him.
Now We're talking Baseball
32 Carpenter
32 Edmonds (+)
31 Rolen
1 Morris (-)
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 8, 2007 6:19 PM EST reply actions
ok
32 Carpenter
32 Edmonds
31 Rolen
0 Morris (-)
2nd vote...got home too late to save Izzy...so...
32 Carpenter
33 Edmonds (+)
30 Rolen (-)
by SethWestern on Feb 8, 2007 6:56 PM EST reply actions
Gonna end up with Pujols vs. Jimmy
31 Carpenter (-1)
34 Edmonds (+1)
30 Rolen
Carpenter is awesome, no doubt about it, and certainly deserving of being in the final 3-4. But as for the quantity of quality play, he has to fall in behind all three of the other remaining guys, particularly Jimmy and Albert. He just hasn't been with us long enough, and didn't help in the '04 playoffs.
While we're docking guys for missed playoff time, Rolen will likely have to come in third here, ultimately.
With my third vote...
33 Edmonds (-1)
32 Carpenter (+1)
30 Rolen
Now we're back in numerical order. This will take a while for it to end especially when we get down to 2. I think that Carpenter has done so much for the Cardinals these past couple of years that I sould give him one point. The last 5 years Edmonds has had 3 good and 2 bad ones which should explain my vote.
by Chicago Cardinals on Feb 8, 2007 7:28 PM EST reply actions
I can't help it
37 Pujols
34 Edmonds (+1)
31 Carpenter (-1)
30 Rolen
Im pretty sure this thing is never going to end...
The final four
33 Edmonds (-1)
32 Carpenter (+1)
30 Rolen
How do you not vote for the guy who won the third Cy Young in franchise history? Only that Gibson guy won more.
by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Feb 8, 2007 10:16 PM EST reply actions
I guess from here on out
and we ALL know who'll win...
37 Pujols
33 Carpenter
31 Edmonds (-1)
31 Rolen (+1)
Friday vote
36 Pujols (-)
34 Carpenter
31 Edmonds (+)
31 Rolen
Frida vote
34 Carp
31 Edmonds
30 Rolen (-) (Sorry, Scott.)
No. 3
34 Carp
32 Edmonds (+)
29 Rolen (-)
by SethWestern on Feb 9, 2007 8:58 AM EST reply actions
#4
34 Carp
33 Edmonds (+)
28 Rolen (-)
by Edmonds is baseball on Feb 9, 2007 9:12 AM EST reply actions
I have to vote for Carp - I just bought his jersey
35 Carp (+)
31 Edmonds (-)
29 Rolen
I couldn't help but think of Pujols' scoring 100 on the citizenship test as a Bill Brasky moment. Of course he scored 100.
Hell
Also, this elimination game will never, ever end. There's no way.
or
Nonetheless, I'll do my part for today:
38 Brasky (+)
35 Carp
31 Edmonds
28 Rolen (-)
With all due respect to Lawman
The line is 6 wins, 59.2 innings pitched, 3 ER, 57 strikeouts, ERA 0.45. 3 cmplete game shutouts.
The man earns a point for that.
38 Pujols
36 Carp (+)
30 Edmonds (-)
28 Rolen
This game will never die.
Friday vote
36 Carp
31 Edmonds (+)
27 Rolen (-)
Love em all, and I think Rolen is set for a huge year, but I gotta take points from somewhere...
Since this game probably will take a long
Pujols 16
Carpenter 14
Edmonds 9
Rolen 5
Go Scotty
Carpenter 14
Edmonds 9
Rolen 6 (+)
by JxMetal on Feb 9, 2007 11:49 AM EST reply actions
ummm.....
13 Carpenter (-)
10 Edmonds (+)
6 Rolen
update
12 Carpenter
11 Edmonds
6 Rolen
by Just Rope Ball on Feb 9, 2007 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Today's vote
11 Carpenter (-)
11 Edmonds
7 Rolen (+)
More because I think the arbitrary lowering of Rolen was a bit too much.
by stlmapman on Feb 9, 2007 12:02 PM EST reply actions
Friday Vote
12 Edmonds (+)
11 Carpenter (-)
6 Rolen
My reasoning: If baseball ended today, who would be most likely to make it in the hall? It doesn't seem fair to judge JEd against what may or may not become of the future of Pujols and Carp. Plus, I love the highlight reels in Center Field.
by cardinalsadvocate on Feb 9, 2007 12:08 PM EST reply actions
update
12 Edmonds
10 Carpenter
7 Rolen
by cardinalsadvocate on Feb 9, 2007 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I do believe
11 Edmonds -1
10 Carpenter
7 Rolen -1
Hate to do it but at the moment he is not in the same class as the other three. He was, but I don't believe so any more. I sure hope I'm wrong.
I agree
10 Edmonds -1
11 Carpenter +1
7 Rolen
and we would have won 90+ games if he hadn't tried to kill himself in chitown last season.
Will voting continue over the weekend?
9 Edmonds (-)
12 Carpenter (+)
7 Rolen
Jimmie, I'll never forget your magic, but you seem to strike out a lot when it matters. Carpie, thank you for keeping DK/Matty Mo's curveball alive with the Birds.
I have yet to vote for Citizen Pujols---here goes
12 Carpenter
8 Edmonds -
7 Rolen
getting interesting
11 Carpenter -
9 Edmonds +
7 Rolen
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 9, 2007 3:14 PM EST reply actions
going going....
13 Carp
10 edmonds
5 rolen- (don't take it personal Scotty)
These are adjusted and current
18 pujols
12 Carp
9 edmonds
5 rolen
And then here's my vote:
18 pujols
13 Carp(+)
9 edmonds
4 rolen(-)
i love rolen
19 pujols(+)
13 Carp
9 edmonds
3 rolen(-)
Time to save Scotty
13 Carpenter
7 Edmonds (-)
4 Rolen (+)
I dont think that Rolen is the worst of these 4 in the past five years, sure he's been hurt and hasnt preformed great in the playoffs but he is still among the best at his position.
by Chicago Cardinals on Feb 10, 2007 12:12 AM EST reply actions
lalala
12 carpenter (-)
6 edmonds
6 rolen (+)
by Willie51 on Feb 10, 2007 2:46 AM EST reply actions
sat. vote
12 carpenter
6 edmonds (+)
5 rolen (-)
injuries vs. memories of unforgettable performances.
Sat Vote...
12 Carp
7 Edmonds (plus one)
5 Rolen
Put em where they go
12 Carp
6 Edmonds (-1)
5 Rolen
Albert is clearly not just the class of the field but all of baseball. Carp is one of the few true aces in the game. A healthy Rolen as good if not better than any one ever on his corner (all around). Then there is (a healthy) Jimmy. An outstanding centerfielder but not near as dominating at his position comparatively speaking. I'm not saying he's not a super star but. Check out others with comparative numbers aka Andrue Jones.
ok
12 Carp
5 Edmonds (-1)
5 Rolen
actual tallies has
21 Pujols
13 Carp
5 Rolen
5 Edmonds
A quick way to make sure the total is right is that it should always add up to 44.
Saturdays are made for fight'n
20 Pujols (-)
13 Carpenter
5 Rolen
6 Edmonds (+)
For the Future
14 Carp
6 Rolen (+)
4 Edmonds (-)
Best Hot Corner in the game 'rebounds' even more this year and knocks all that trade talk out of the park in October.
One for Jimmy
14 Carp
6 Rolen
5 Edmonds (+)
by JxMetal on Feb 10, 2007 4:37 PM EST reply actions
A vote
GoGo Jimmy Half-Shirt
19 Pujols
14 Carp
6 Edmonds (+)
5 Rolen (-)
uh-oh
14 Carp
7 Edmonds
3 Rolen (-)
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 10, 2007 8:18 PM EST reply actions
Future HOF
14 Carp
6 Edmonds (-)
3 Rolen
Saturday Vote
15 Carp (+)
6 Edmonds
2 Rolen (-)
I dig Scotty, but he hasn't had the moments Jimmy has while here.
by themang on Feb 10, 2007 11:28 PM EST reply actions
This is tough
21 Pujols
15 Carp
5 Edmonds (-)
3 Rolen (+)
I hope my sermon today is easier than my vote...
15 Carp
3 Edmonds
2 Rolen (-)
Sorry Scotty. Each negative vote feels like I'm cutting off a finger.
4 HOFers?
15 Carp
3 Edmonds
1 Rolen (-)
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 11, 2007 10:04 AM EST reply actions
I'm gonna miss Jimmy when he's done
16 Carp (+)
2 Edmonds
1 Rolen (-)
I'm gonna need a few more years for Rolen to really grow on me like Jimmy has.
jibber jabber
15 carp (-)
2 edmonds
2 rolen (+)
by Willie51 on Feb 11, 2007 2:20 PM EST reply actions
Jimmy's gotta Go
15 carp
3 rolen (+)
1 edmonds (-)
by JxMetal on Feb 11, 2007 2:35 PM EST reply actions
no one wants to pull the trigger
Me neither.
24 pujols
16 carp (+)
2 rolen (-)
1 edmonds
We all knew
25 pujols (+)
16 carp
1 rolen (-)
1 edmonds
Lets get Rolen and JEd off the list so that we can all vote for Pujols and end this game.
by Stanfan6 on Feb 11, 2007 3:23 PM EST reply actions
sir albert and carp are major icons
25 pujols +
17 carp
1 jed -
by luvthemcards on Feb 11, 2007 6:16 PM EST reply actions
Bye Bye Jimmy
18 Carp (+1)
0 Mr. Edwards
Gonna miss him.
by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Feb 11, 2007 6:40 PM EST reply actions
Hmmm
25 Pujols
18 Carp (+1)
0 Edwards (-1)
by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Feb 11, 2007 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
HGH
16 Carp -
Will Carpenter still be here in the morning?
Does anyone fear a vote for Pujols is a vote for HGH? Who's to say, but didn't we all go ga-ga over Big Mac in his day? Don't deny it.
It hurts to even think about, but I fear that in the not-to-distant-future, we'll be feeling betrayed once again.
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 11, 2007 11:10 PM EST reply actions
This vote is easier
14 Carp (-)
Pitching wins Championships
15 Carp(+)
by JxMetal on Feb 12, 2007 9:45 AM EST reply actions
Poo or Carp...
29 Pujols (+)
14 Carp (-)
Can't go wrong with either.
+ for Carp
carpenter +1 (12) for proving BP wrong
Albert -1 (31) sorry mang
Sorry Carps.
Carpenter 11 (-1)
by Birdos in Mexico on Feb 12, 2007 7:04 PM EST reply actions
its over, we all know who wins it
carpenter 10 (-)
Carp is now in single digits
Carpenter 9 (-)
by Chicago Cardinals on Feb 12, 2007 11:19 PM EST reply actions
Pitching wins championships
Carp 10 +
by PGeorge @ Viva El Birdos on Feb 12, 2007 11:24 PM EST reply actions
Both guys give the Cards respectability...
Pujols 34 (+)
Carp 9 (-)
lets keep this moving
Carp 8 (-)
by Stanfan6 on Feb 13, 2007 1:10 AM EST reply actions
We have a winner!
Is 300+ comments a new record for a diary?
Looks like everyone might like a historical version of the Cardinals according to the poll, but I think I'll give it a bit before we start that. Don't want to burn everyone out on this thought intensive game!
it got me through the most boring 2 weeks
by SethWestern on Feb 13, 2007 4:31 PM EST reply actions

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