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I'm pretty sure everyone saw the article in the Post-Dispatch today relating to Jason Isringhausen and the booing.

There was a paragraph in there that I think everyone should know:

He remembers being booed with the Oakland A's before coming to St. Louis. But that was different. A rabid newspaper, Internet and chat room reader, Isringhausen felt the hostility before reaching the park each day.
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While I, for one, was never on the anti-Izzy bandwagon until the one game in September against the Nationals, I will say this: Had I known he was injured at the time, I would never have considered booing him.

I would hope that, come opening day, fans give him the standing ovation he deserves rather than boo him.  The fans should show Isringhausen the class act that he deserves and make up for all the booing over the past season.

Here's more excerpts:

Pitching coach Dave Duncan has tentatively scheduled the Cardinals closer to return to game competition March 15, barring complications. There is no running in Isringhausen's spring program, and his participation in fielding practice will be restricted. No covering bases. No fielding bunts.

"We don't want to do anything that gets him sore," Duncan said.

In a perfect world, Isringhausen will recover in time from his seventh surgery ("three shoulders, two hips, two elbows") in time to close out the April 1 opener against the New York Mets.

But even if Isringhausen closes the game, takes a flip from catcher Yadier Molina and gives the game ball to a little girl behind the first-base dugout -- his habit -- bruises, scarring and soreness will remain.

A painful season left its mark on Isringhausen long before he was shut down Sept. 7, a Thursday on which he "celebrated" his 34th birthday during the back end of a Washington-to-Phoenix trip.

By then the Brighton, Ill., native and Edwardsville resident had become callused from booing in his home park, booing he says now prevents his wife from attending games and challenges a long-held desire to retire with the club.

"I'm still happy to be part of the Cardinals, but in a sense it has become more of a business," he said.[...]

Isringhausen explained that he pitched through the condition to allow a relatively inexperienced bullpen to stay in its assigned roles for as long as possible.

Said La Russa: "I'd like to think once the facts are in he will get the reception he deserves."

Teammates describe a player generous with advice and money. Isringhausen, who supplied the home bullpen with industrial fans last summer, also mentored a group that included two rookies and two others with less than two years' major league service.

"He's been like a second father to me," said 25-year-old lefthander Tyler Johnson, who emerged as a huge postseason factor as a rookie. "I owe a lot of what success I've had to him. It's hard for me to describe how much respect I have for him."

"In the few years I've been here, I've seen him riding unbelievably well and riding unbelievably bad. And he's the same person to those who see him every day," said Randy Flores. "You always see him answering the tough questions, facing it when things go wrong and taking responsibility."

Isringhausen's bullpen mates held to a clubhouse omerta, obliquely acknowledging his struggles but not giving him away.

Isringhausen returned on crutches to the team shortly after his Sept. 21 surgery and rode shotgun during its World Series ride. Watching Adam Wainwright close each round of the playoffs before striking out Detroit Tigers third baseman Brandon Inge to end the World Series served as a bittersweet symphony.

"I wanted to be part of the St. Louis Cardinals. I wanted to close out the World Series. I wanted to be the guy. That was the hardest part of last year. But I couldn't be more happy or prouder for Adam than anybody, except maybe his mom. And she always hugs me," Isringhausen said.

"Izzy was right there when we won and celebrated, part of it. And all of us were glad for it," Flores said. "Not everybody would have handled it like that. (Withdrawing) is a way of protecting yourself. When you're hurt, it's there every day for 24 hours. But he understands that it's part of the game. That doesn't make it any easier, but it goes to his presence as a leader."

But even the Oct. 29 celebration picked at the hurt.

"I don't like getting booed, especially loud booing. It's over now. I'm sure the first day I come out there I'll get booed again," he said. "How many people get booed at the parade?"

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I'm of two
minds concerning this issue. It's without doubt a paying customer's right to boo if he/she feels so inclined. On the other hand, I rarely exercise that right even with opposing teams (the Cubs being a major exception) and almost never boo a Cardinal. Umps? Yep, I boo them all the time. They got it coming. I'll admit to cringing and swearing to myself every time Izzy took the mound last year, but I never booed out loud. I have a really hard time booing anybody wearing the BOB. But the main reason I don't boo Cardinals is that I believe booing makes whatever the situation worse, not better. I've never witnessed a player benefitting from boos, but I have seen players screw up even more because of boos (or at least that's my perception). I don't feel sorry for a player who gets booed--they make waaaaaaay too much money for that. I just think it's counter-productive. However, I also have a hard time telling a fellow fan not to. Anybody who spends the kind of cake it takes to go to a ballgame these days (I usually fork over 100-200, depending on my ticket price) has purchased that right. It's simply not my cup of tea. Still, would any player, injured or not, give back a chunk of his millions because he sucked? Not a chance. Thus, it does go with the territory and I find the "poor me" attitude rather underwhelming.

by rockin redbird on Feb 18, 2007 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Fan, first; customer, distant runner-up
At the risk of being fingered as a Dewitt plant, when I go to Cardinals games, I don't think of myself as a "paying customer." I'm a fan. This isn't a utility company, it's a storied baseball franchise and the pride of the region. I bought into the theory promoted at Cardnilly early on that the booing was an "event fan" phenomenon caused by overrepresentation of casual fans showing up for the first season in Busch III, but it's become apparent that the fan base has changed over the exceptionally strong period of Cardinal baseball that Walt and Tony have presided over in the Lou—fans feel they're entitled to see the team win every time they go to the park and entitled to voice their displeasure if the team fails to deliver and the opponent refuses to cooperate. With the World Championship banner flapping over the stadium in 2007, it figures to only get worse.

That being said, I agree with Alex below that Izzy hurt the team by refusing to admit his hip was ruining his effectiveness and hurting the team. He's too experienced and has dealt with too many injuries over his years that there's no excuse for him to have not stepped aside earlier and assumed his mentoring role August ninth or so. Everything worked out as things played out though, so I won't complain too loudly. Looking forward to seeing him win back the fanbase this season. Here's hoping they're fans enough to give him the chance.

by liam on Feb 18, 2007 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

No
it's not a utility company. And it is a storied baseball franchise and the pride of the region. That's all true as true can be. However, try getting into the ballpark by just telling them you're a fan. When they stop laughing, they'll tell you "no ticket, no ballgame." You may not think of yourself as a paying customer, but I guarantee that's the bottom line of your fandom as far as those running the show are concerned. It's a hardship for me to cough up the money my Cardinal addiction requires. A hardship I gladly endure, but a hardship nonetheless. So it's kinda difficult for me to remove myself from the "paying customer" part of the equation. I dunno, maybe you make enough money that you don't notice the price of your fandom--if so, congrats. That must be great. I, however, have to sacrifice many other social and vacation possibilties to go to my Cardinal games. When they start letting me in for free, Ill see it your way. And I attended my first game at Sportsman's Park nestled in the arms of my father in 1963 at the ripe age of 3, so I'm pretty far from being an "event fan."

by rockin redbird on Feb 18, 2007 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't mean to direct that criticism your way
I don't go to as many games as I'd like due to a combination of travel and finances. I usually see one full series (vs. the Braves this year and last, if I can get tickets for me and my friends from GA again) and a few other games when I know I'll be in St. Louis at the same time as the team.

I'm not rich, but I may be a snob when it comes to certain things baseball: I don't boo Cardinals*, I don't do the wave, throwing visitors' home run balls back on the field, etc. And I won't pass up an opportunity to express my distaste for those sorts of things. Both you and I find booing the home team to be counter-productive, I'm just saying that having paid for a ticket and a really expensive beer doesn't give someone the right to be a crappy fan. The Gods of Baseball gave us free will to do that, but the Church of the Cardinal should have taught us the restraint not to, lest we become another Philadelphia, where the Rolens and Isringhausens prefer not to re-sign...

* Except, once while watching a game on TV, I booed Tino Martinez—but the displeasure was directed more at LaRussa for not moving Pujols to first.

by liam on Feb 18, 2007 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen, Liam
lets keep our negative energy directed at where it belongs: The fucking wave.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2007 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with
yas there. The wave is an aggravation we could all do without. Though I do find it pretty hilarious when some drunken ass tries to start one and no one pays attention.

by rockin redbird on Feb 19, 2007 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey
I've always loved Izzy. He had problems with injuries last year, it was that simple. I can't wait for the guy to come back so we can get Wainwright in the starting rotation, where he belongs.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Feb 18, 2007 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

i like izzy
izzy has been great for the cardinals. i remember when mike perez,jeff brantley,and dave veres were the closers. and those were bad years even though veres had a couple ok seasons. but a good closer is very important. but if you think of it izzy as the closer and wainwright as a starter is the best for the 2007 cardinals. but again i remember the bad years with bad closers really makes me appricate izzy. people should not boo him the way they do. the cardinals have had some of the best closers in baseball henke,worrell,smith,sutter and yes izzy. although izzy is not a hall of fame type closer he is still very good and can get the team back to the world series.

give izzy a chance!

SWH

by BRINGBACKWILSON on Feb 18, 2007 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Another vote for Izzy
A lot of baseball fans worry when their closer takes the mound---usually with better reason to do so than Cards fans have had for the last five years. Whenever I watch a non-Cards game, I'm shocked by how much more reason fans of other teams have to worry than Cards fans do. Bobby Jenks, Todd Jones, Brad Lidge post-Albert, Billy Wagner vs. So Taguchi: these are legitimate closers but I would get sick rooting for them. Izzy blew an uncharacteristic number of saves hurt, and even hurt he helped the team win the World Series. He's presided over the bullpen over the five years in which the Cards overtook the Braves as the winningest team in the NL. And he's from the right side of river.

by Don Zero on Feb 18, 2007 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

If you are injured,
you shouldn't be playing. He hurt the team by not shutting it down earlier.... So, I can understand why he was getting booed during the year; I have no problem booing anybody -- I boo the bagger at Schnucks if he isn't doing a good enough job -- but to jeer the man at the World Series parade?

That's just cold, man. Ice cold.

Cheers

by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2007 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

You boo your grocery bagger?
That must look even classier than booing an injured man at a parade.

by Don Zero on Feb 18, 2007 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You may notice over time,
that I take nothing in my life serious.  

Except grocery bagging.

Cheers

by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2007 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just a caveMAN
that got thawed out of ice by your scientists, and later went to law school.  Your modern world and its conveniences scare and confuse me.  Sometimes, when I am at your grocery stores, I wonder "Is there a little dwarf inside the machine moving that conveyor belt around?  Is there an evil demon that recognizes the UPC label on my grocery and tells the cashier the price of my items?"  I don't know!  My caveman mind cannot comprehend.  

But there is one thing that I DO know... when the bagger takes more than five minutes to bag my groceries, then he or she is entitled to the harshest scolding possible.

by Valatan on Feb 18, 2007 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That was perfectly random, Val.
Thank you. I miss Phil Hartman.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Feb 18, 2007 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Puzzled by the comment on 'booing challenges
long wish to retire with the club.

Does he think that if he will find a easier, more laid back baseball climate than St. Louis that will embrace his tendancy to 'make things interesting'?  If he leave, via FA, some team is going to have to pay him like a topshelf closer.

That means he has to perform as one.  If he doesn't he will be booed, more so than here in St. Louis.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Feb 18, 2007 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

Don't watch his actions
As long as I don't watch him and only look at his stats, I can tolerate Izzy.  Admit, he is so scary to watch in the late innings of a tight game.

http://whiteyball.wordpress.com/

by whiteyball on Feb 18, 2007 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Passing the blame around
From the MLB article posted to day:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070218&content_id=1806190&vkey=news_mlb&fext=. jsp&c_id=mlb&partnered=rss_mlb

LaRussa said ""We knew that he was laboring, but if you look, there was a year or two there where he got 40 saves and he hadn't been healthy. So we're kind of used to seeing him be less than 100 percent [and still succeed]."

Much like the Mulder discussion we had back in the early summer, seems to me that the coaching staff has some responsibility to know when to shut a guy down.  Laboring is one thing, but the results we got were quite a bit below "laboring."

I truly hope Izzy comes back, is healthy and produces for us in 2007.  In a sense the rotation depends on him securing the closer role so Wainwright can move into the rotation.

 

by RAholt on Feb 18, 2007 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

"Read me, Izzy," said the comment.
I have no doubts that if Izzy didn't gut it out for as long as he did, there's no way we would have won the WS; he bought those kids in the bullpen enough time to grow into what we saw in the postseason.  He could have taken himself out much earlier but he put his longevity and career on the line for the team; that my friends is no ordinary sac bunt.

Sure, he cost us a few games on the way and we barely made it into the playoffs (remember, he's not the only one with responsibility for that), but he paid us back with a strong bullpen and a World Series win.  

I plan on giving the man a standing O on my next opportunity.

by Elle on Feb 18, 2007 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

That's fine and well after the fact
but when he was loading the bases every time out and leading the league in blown saves, he was saying he was healthy.  So, as a "fan" all I'm left to believe that he's healthy and making excuses for himself (the one about not worrying about walking a hitter since the NEXT guy was his out comes to mind).  Sure, it was noble (I guess) for him to suck it up and mentor the young guys, but to expect the fans to understand the circumstances when you are lying about your own health is ridiculous.  

He shouldn't have been booed at the parade.  Which I was unaware of and, judging from the responses on this board, most if not all of you were as well.  Needless to say, it wasn't an all out boo like Todd Ziele recieved (still can't figure that one out) so I'm thinking he's being overly sensitive and blowing the whole thing out of proportion when he created a lot of the mess by lying.

by Big Red on Feb 19, 2007 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm still trying to figure out
when Todd Zeile stopped being the 'next Johnny Bench'...

As far as Izzy's comments and fan behavior regarding his performance (or lack thereof), if he's healthy and pitches reasonably well (say, 2004 season levels), then I think all is forgiven...by most fans. There will still be some who feel the need to let Izzy know how they feel about him negatively, especially now that he's let all of us know how much it bothers him.

by player2bnamedl8r on Feb 19, 2007 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

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