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So long Jimmy Baseball

And thanks for the memories.

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"Moving quickly to replace center fielder Mike Cameron, the Padres have agreed to a trade that will bring them center fielder Jim Edmonds, a 37-year-old who has won eight Gold Gloves.

The Cardinals are to get single-A third baseman David Freese, a minor leaguer. Cash will also be part of the deal, which could be made official as soon as Saturday. In talks last month, the Padres said they would be interested in Edmonds only if St. Louis helped to pay for his $8 million salary. "

What an offseason.

David Freese's MiLB stats

Update [2007-12-15 0:34:18 by lboros]: shocking news, but there's some logic to this move. it's not a great step down production-wise from 37-year-old jim edmonds to a centerfield medley of ankiel / barton / schumaker / rasmus; indeed, it might well be a step up. just playing a hunch --- i wonder if the cardinals are gonna take the savings from edmonds' salary (roughly $7m) and make a run at either loshe or silva. i'm not suggesting this would be a smart thing to do . . . . i'd have to think about that. but if that's indeed how it goes down, it would have the effect of shifting marginal payroll from a position where it isn't doing much good (centerfield) to one where it might really upgrade the team; they'd be no worse in cf but much better in the rotation.

this is pure speculation, and i'm probably way off the mark. but i gotta think this move was made with a subsequent move in mind. we'll see . . .

here's the current lineup:

schumaker cf
ankiel rf
pujols 1b
duncan lf
rolen 3b
kennedy 2b
molina c
izturis ss
pitcher

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This was already in the hot stove thread!!!
Sorry, I had to be that guy :P

What a terrible trade. Nothing against Freese, I knew him in High School, he's a good kid, and not a bad ball player, but i'd of rather kept Edmonds.

Bad move by Mo in my opinion. This just free's up salary we aren't going to spend.

Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Dec 14, 2007 10:56 PM EST   0 recs

Talk about a lot to live up to
How much grief will he get from the old crew back home for being traded for Jimmy Freakin' Ballgame.
Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 10:59 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah,
but I figured moving one of the greatest center fielders in the history of the franchise for "some dude" was probably diary worthy.

Glad they did it after all of the center fielders on the market were already signed! It's not that I disagree with a lot of Moz's signings/trades, but his timing is simply fuckawful.

I will be in briefs.

by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2007 11:00 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

well
At least there is no chance of signing Aaron Rowand.  Gotta be happy about that...
Christmas lights are an extremely efficient method for converting Christmas Spirit into heat. -anon

by SleepyCA on Dec 14, 2007 11:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Maybe
we're just swapping cfr's (in a round about way) and we'll end up with Cameron.
Other mysteries remain. TL

by BKKCard on Dec 14, 2007 11:37 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Very Sad...
Thanks for a lot Jimmy.
I'll miss ya.

by davethebutcher on Dec 14, 2007 11:06 PM EST   0 recs

I (think) I agree
my in and out of divorce court marathon with Jimbo is finally over.  The old girl finally died.

So many things on the plus side over the seven years... amazing catches in CF; some memorable clutch hitting; those weeks where he would go on a tear and carry the team.
But there was also his stubborn batting stance with his coast to coast leg spread, just BEGGING a smart pitcher to ring him up.  All the more annoying when you saw some of those odd 'waves' at strike three, as if he was in a training film about how to distract the catcher when a runner was trying to steal second.

His hot-dogism vs. the teams crying need (under the Ayatollah LaRussa) for some kind of personality.

Oh yes, Jimbo... one eye cries and the other one twinkles, but I certainly WILL miss ya.

by the Tewk on Dec 15, 2007 8:09 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Food for thought:
Will Rasmus get a legit look at center in spring training? He performed roughly as well as Pence did in AA in 2006, and the Stros were foolish not to have Pence start 07 in the show.

Makes the offseason a bit more depressing, but could make spring training much more interesting.

I will be in briefs.

by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2007 11:08 PM EST   0 recs

He'll have competition
Barton and Rasmus both making the jump from AA? We've got more to lose by rushing Rasmus along, though.
Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:13 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

But
his name has the perfect amount of syllables for a chant, thus replacing the "Jim-my Ed-monds -- clap clap clapclapclap" with a "Col-by Ras-mus -- clap clap clapclapclap"

Sometimes its about the intangibles, Liam.

I will be in briefs.

by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2007 11:16 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Shenanigans
You look at the Cardinals with too much of a subjective bias.
Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:20 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

shenanigans
yeah sorry about that.  i had just watched my friend try to fight a cop after being thrown out of a bar.  so that coupled with around 15 beers didnt really help.  not too sure why i was on here anyway.

by mizzou on Dec 14, 2007 11:59 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Heh
Sounds like you had a more interesting night than I did.

I need to get out of the house and put away about that many to mourn the end of the Jim Edmonds Era.

Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 15, 2007 12:34 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Another morsel:
Joe Mather? We could have a terrifying LF platoon between him and Duncan.
Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:27 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

And
Ankiel could play center...

It's official: I'm excited to watch our not quite average team figure it all out in spring training!

I will be in briefs.

by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2007 11:29 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

not likely
With a big enough spring anything's possible, but it makes too much sense to let him get his feet wet in AAA, hold off till May to bring him up, and push his eligibility for free agency back a year.

by montalban on Dec 15, 2007 12:18 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

At least $1M cash
Per this update.

And copy-pasting from the other thread:

Sickels has him rated C+, saying:
Other C+ guys include Drew Cumberland, Luis Durango, Drew Freese, Danny Payne, Nick Schmidt, and very good LOOGY Joe Thatcher. All interchangeable with the C+ guys above.
So I suppose he's either the 10th best prospect in the Padres system or the 26th, depending on your mood. He looks like a pretty good prospect, but I didn't realize there was such a rush to get rid of Jimmy Ballgame.
Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:11 PM EST   0 recs

He seems like...
a slightly older Allen Craig (although i'm not sure how old Craig is so i may be way off) with better defense.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Dec 14, 2007 11:14 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Completely depressed
Cards weren't going to win in 08 anyway.  Would have been nice to give Jimmy Baseball a proper send off.

I'll be rooting for him on the Pads.  I hope he comes back.

by bretsyboo on Dec 14, 2007 11:12 PM EST   0 recs

Yeah,
this makes me pretty upset. It would've been different if he had a few years left, but I felt like he signed that two year deal hoping to retire as a Cardinal, and for what he's done for us, it would've been right to do that for him. Sure, he said he'd accept San Diego, but it feels very wrong, and I'm sure he would've rather stayed.

This deal better be worth it in the end.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Dec 15, 2007 2:02 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

seriously
i was looking forward to seeing him that last couple times in a cardinals uniform, and now we get some freakin 25 year old double AA player.

Sad, sad way to end the glorious jimmy edmonds era.

by PolancoMcEwing on Dec 15, 2007 2:39 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

MV2
If they end up dealing Rolen (and I now have no doubt they were trying their damnest) this team sure is starting to look a lot different and I'm wondering what strange part of the night ocean we're swimming out to.
Other mysteries remain. TL

by BKKCard on Dec 14, 2007 11:16 PM EST   0 recs

Dude
Your imagery -- what strange part of the night ocean we're swimming out to -- is arresting. If it is a quote or an allusion I did not recognize it, so I googled it. Your VEB entry came up as the 12th result. (If that's your own image, well done.)

by Youneverknow on Dec 15, 2007 3:37 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

No reason to be sad!
Well just got done watching Its a Wonderful Life So i`m in a good mood now I hear we traded Jimmy.. Well congrats JED you had a great Cardinal career!

by Calhoun on Dec 14, 2007 11:21 PM EST   0 recs

Gave him away
It seems they pretty much just handed him to the Pads on a silver platter.  A guy who is going to be 24 next year doesn't excite me too much, unless they just pulled some ginormous coup.  Freese's numbers in A-Ball aren't exactly astonishing.  

Edmonds has been a great player for the Cardinals.  From 00-05 it is not a stretch to say he was one of the top 3 center fielders in baseball.  I hope he finishes off his career with one more year in the sun, as they say.

Its my hope that this means Rasmus and/or Barton are going into 08 with the inside track to the starting job.  I think Skippy as the starter is a scary proposition.  Then again, maybe Mo has a trick up his sleeve on this one...Or maybe the Cardinals baseball wheel-O-rama came up with "TRADE EDMONDS."  

by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 14, 2007 11:21 PM EST   0 recs

batting first
watch out for the skippster batting leadoff with the others platooning in left and right.  maybe barton can do better in the spring, but i doubt his limited experience will allow that decision form the coaching staff.  alternatively, will they pay more than sd for cameron, seems improbable.

by sportsman on Dec 14, 2007 11:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

He'll be 25 next year
Born 1983 in April, which will make him 25 next year.

He's from St. Louis, though. I guess that's why the Cardinals got him.

by DiscoJer on Dec 15, 2007 12:17 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Freese was borned 4/28/83
That makes him 25 next April. A little long in the tooth for a class A player, but I'm sure the Cards had some other selections so maybe they know something they like about him. Also maybe they now think Rasmus is ready and I've got a sneaky suspicion he is after seeing him on the USA team. I hate to see Edmunds go though. I scanned th Padres site and the seemed just as depressed about getting Edmunds as we are about seeing him go..go figure.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 12:22 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Edmonds trade
Seems like we have a log-jam at 3B in the high minors: just resigned Rico Washington and both Craig and Freese considered independently, should start the year at AA.  Maybe Craig becomes expendable in a trade?

by vances law on Dec 15, 2007 9:42 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

thank you jim edmonds
for two of the three greatest moments in my young cardinal life, coming in consecutive nights.

does this make pujols the longest tenured cardinal now?

Albert Pujols stole my 1998 Ford Taurus.

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2007 11:28 PM EST   0 recs

Second that
Looked for video of that, but found hokey tribute stills instead.

And it would make Pujols the longest tenured active Cardinal. (Not counting managers and coaches)

Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:38 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

wanna talk about a guy who deserves more than this
there goes my favorite cardinal, I wish him the best with the pads (jimmy in camo???!)....better change my name

by jimmyballgame on Dec 14, 2007 11:30 PM EST   0 recs

No need to change your name.
I'm not planning on changing mine. Jimmy is a great Cardinal who had a great career here.  It is perfectly acceptable to keep your name in homage.  
Jimmy steps in to lead off the bottom half of the inning... with nobody on base... It could happen... just not tonight.

by Hollywood15 on Dec 15, 2007 9:42 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

colbyballgame
looks pretty good though...
Christmas lights are an extremely efficient method for converting Christmas Spirit into heat. -anon

by SleepyCA on Dec 15, 2007 1:07 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Hats off to you, Jimmy
You were a true badass both in the field and at the plate.  Thanks for the attitude, thanks for the Gold Gloves, thanks for the walk off HR in the 2004 NLCS and the catch in Game 7 of the same series, thanks for the HR robbing catches, and most of all, thanks for finally bringing home the title in 2006.

Thanks for everything.

The hot stove is burning...

by cardzfan24 on Dec 14, 2007 11:31 PM EST   0 recs

Tip of the cap
Video... Right back atcha.
Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:42 PM EST   0 recs

David Freese
Here's a video of him singling.

Nice to hear the crack of the bat.

Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:45 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Good lord
how did you find that. Youtube seems to have something about everything.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 12:26 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

jed
mystifying to me if all we get is a third baseman in A-ball AND we're paying part of jed's salary.  better economics to just cut kennedy and get eck or someone with good on-base skills to play second.  maybe jed wanted out, but this doesn't make much sense to me as reported.  rick better hit like snot or they are willing to now go after cameron themselves, but the $ conflict with the pads doesn't bode well for that 'exchange".  the famous ex-football coach's quote goes "we may be small, but we're slow", seems getting more applicable by the day

by sportsman on Dec 14, 2007 11:44 PM EST   0 recs

A 2B with On base skills
Someone like Jarrett Hoffpauir.

I'd be thoroughly annoyed if we signed Cameron. Much rather get the youth movement underway and see what Barton, Ankiel, Mather can do to MLB pitching day-in, day-out.

Our oldest position player is now Scott Spiezio at 35. Oldest regular is Rolen at 33.

Cameron will be 35 and he'd block the kids.

Surprisingly, no. I'm free, I'm unfettered.

by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yes..
Yes, no Cameron here! Not now.
Trade for Sean Rodriguez! (But please dont call him S-Rod!)

by cardschinmusic on Dec 15, 2007 4:32 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Sad.
He deserved a proper sendoff.

JE was one of the greatest centerfielders off all time; yeah-- he's washed up, but he will still be missed.

Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on Dec 14, 2007 11:50 PM EST   0 recs

it was a great ride, but
he's been a shell of himself for some time now..he has been continually nagged by injuries..I luv the guy but thought his deal when signed was too much more of a thank you than a real deal..and i was in the minority..Wish they could have got more than what they did but lets face it..he started 103 games and hit 252 and hit in 53...But for th epads the cards eat some of that so not too bad if he can rebound.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punchinjudy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2007 11:53 PM EST   0 recs

chipper up....
Hes going home to the sunshine and ocean with a ring on his finger, gonna hang with Black, the Hoffman(s), Joiner on the beach and on the course on off days and in the dugout (never mind that TLR wont be there), make 8 million more, smile and celebrate what might be his last tour of the bigs as one of the greatest ambassadors of CF ever. That doesnt suck too much, does it? Hes still in his 30s, healthy at the moment, making millions, getting ready to bat somewhere adjacent to Gonzalez and Greene.  

Meanwhile, I'm crushed and looking at the schedule for the Pads to come to town....mid July??

Trade for Sean Rodriguez! (But please dont call him S-Rod!)

by cardschinmusic on Dec 15, 2007 4:30 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Sniff
I did not see that coming.
"A great catch is like watching girls go by; the last one you see is always the prettiest." - Bob Gibson

by stl tyler on Dec 15, 2007 12:04 AM EST   0 recs

more $$$
according to PD, we pay more than $1M to pads

by sportsman on Dec 15, 2007 12:05 AM EST   0 recs

I'd like to say "Peace" to Jim Edmonds
You will be missed greatly, Big Fella. I hope to catch the first SDP game at Busch in 2008 so I can help give you a proper sendoff.

by 26thMan on Dec 15, 2007 12:06 AM EST   0 recs

this is like a freaking nightmare
the two things i was looking forward to this season were:
  1. seeing jimmy retire as a cardinal
  2. the debut of colby rasmus
now, i wont get to see my favorite player retire as a cardinal....still in total shock
waiting for the 2009 season to begin

by cards4life on Dec 15, 2007 12:09 AM EST   0 recs

If we're gonna finish in last place
with a crappy team, we might as well get to see #15 get a sendoff. His number better be retired.
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on Dec 15, 2007 12:21 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Really???
I love Jimmy, but I don't think he's a retired number guy.

by Big Head on Dec 15, 2007 12:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

You're talking about one of the 15-20 best
centerfielders in baseball history. More than deserving.
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on Dec 15, 2007 12:26 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I have been watching centerfielders
for over 50 years and I would rate Edmunds in the top 5...and I have a tendency to lean toward the older guys, but Edmunds could turn his back and go after a ball and pick it up as good as anybody. the only person that could be his equal is Willie Mays and he was no better than Edmunds.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 12:35 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Edmonds was always overrated on defense
and terribly underrated with the bat.

He's comparable to Duke Snider, although probably no quite as good as him.

Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on Dec 15, 2007 12:42 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Snider
in no way compared to Edmunds. Snider was smooth and ranked above league average  but he was never rated as good as Ritchie Ashburn, Dom Di Maggio, Jimmy Piersal, or Mantle or Mays who played in his time. Snider was never considered  more a competent outfielder. In fact Carl Furillo was a better outfielder with more speed on the same team, but played right because Snider played center better than right.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 12:59 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I'm talking about
the sum of the parts

-Offense
-Defense
-Everything in between

Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on Dec 15, 2007 1:13 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Snider did not
have more than average speed. Struck out a lot, was not a clutch hitter. Could hit the long ball on mistake pitches but Robinson, Campanella, Reese and Furillo were were the backbone of those Dodger power teams and Snider and Hodges did provide good power but could be pitched too. I'm sorry but you just brought up a name of a player that used to irritate me to no end. Saw and listened to lot of Dodger Cardinal games and didn't mind Snider or Hodges coming up with men on, chances are you would get them to pop up or strike out, but the rest of that lineup would kill you. Good thing the Cards had Musial, he almost handled them single handed.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 1:36 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Snider
was better with men on than his career averages. The OPS difference was mainly OBP which is understandable, but he hit for a higher average and slugged a few points higher.

He also is offensively similar to Edmonds. 140 career OPS+ and a five-year run of dominance. I'm willing to accept that he's not the defender Jimmy was. I'm too young to have seen him play, and don't know of anything that anecdotally supports elite defense.

by plh903 on Dec 15, 2007 3:55 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

snider moment
my recollections of snider are that he was a clutch player with the bat.  still remember watching cards-dodgers at sportsman's park and snider beat the cards that night by hitting a ball off the clock (on a tower) in center field.  

by sportsman on Dec 15, 2007 9:17 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I think I remember that game
and as I said Snider Did have some good years later after Dodgers moved to LA (and that game was after they were in LA) and he was the only one left from the old Brooklyn team, and not to say he didn't have his moments, he did. I just never thought he was as good as his stats. but I might as well concede, done got 3 against me. I am glad I picked up someone that actually saw him though. I value your contribution.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 10:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

This is where studying stats can be misleading
Snider was the kind of hitter that would go 3 for 4, 4 for 4 in games where the whole team was hitting and would win 12 to 2 9 to 3. but did not produce much against good pitching. Struck out a lot and in general was not a clutch hitter. Also was a streaky hitter, prone to streaks of popping up to right field a lot like Rolen did last year.In fact, Snider was Booed at lot in Brooklyn by the fans. On the other end of the spectrum, Furillo (whom I always admired) if you study his stats, they will not look as good as Snider, but he was steady, got key hits in clutch situations and in general was not a hitter that a pitcher wanted to face in a tough situation. Same for Campanella and Robinson. Now to Snider's credit, he was one of the younger of the Brooklyn Dodgers and did have a couple of good years after the team moved to LA. I have never looked at Edmunds as being and extremely clutch hitter but he is definitely better than Snider. Haven't you watched baseball long enough to see for your own eyes to see that stats do not give give a complete picture of a players value.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 9:38 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

You probably hate Alex Rodriguez too.
For example Duke Snider in 1957:

Tie game: .254/.388/.521
Within 1 run: .292/.393/.639
Within 2 runs: .285/.382/.610
Close and Late: .304/.354/.674
within > 4 runs: .212/.368/.452

That was his last big year, his clutch stats from 1958 (where his overall line was far less impressive), are even better.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=snidedu01&year=1957

Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on Dec 15, 2007 11:19 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

No, I don't hat e Arod
at all and I a respect your stats..but if you study them closely by what the pitching was in the league at the time you can see some of the points I was trying to make. You can see that milwauke and Philadelphia handled him really well. That is because Milwauke had Spahn, Burdette, and Buhl. Philadelphia handled him good because they had Roberts and Simmons. The Giants and Cardinals handled him fairly good to a lesser degree because Giants at least Maglee and Cards Had Staley, both of whom I know he could't hit. Now neither the Giants or Cards had deep staffs at that time with some below average  starters and like I said to begin with Snider had a reputation of living off bad pitching, and I saw him enough and kept up enough through radio and box scores to know that was true. He never hit well against the Cards better starters. Also note that he raked Chicago and Pittsburgs pitching and they were the doormats of the league at the time. In looking further at the stats you presented, he seemed to hit less against Cincy than anyone else and I can't remember why that would be. I know they weren't very good in those years but must have had some guys that pitched him good, I know they had Nuxhall. Don't remember who else. Actually I don't dislike Duke Snider, Arod or anybody else. I have seen Snider get a few big hits. All major league good hitters do, but there are good hitters and there are better good hitters if you can follow me. And it is hard by strictly stats to glean the difference. But when the statement was made at the time when Edmunds was being celebrated for his accomplishments with the Cards "That he was overated for his defense and compared to Duke Snider overall, but maybe a little lower." Then I knew it had to be made by some that had not lived long enough see Snider play and was probably from some computer annalsys. I will say this in closing. As good as Arod is: in a game on line situation, I'm not so sure I wouldn't rather have Pojols and I don't know off hand how their stats compare. Ballplayers are humans not robots and are better examined by Humans and not computer stats.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 4:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

correction
I meant nobody could turn his back on a ball better than Edmunds. Over all Mays and Paul Blair might have been better.

by ridgesee on Dec 15, 2007 12:48 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Probably so
But this is a club that still hasn't retired the number of one its most beloved folk heroes. Retire No. 15 you want, but retire its inverse first.

by 26thMan on Dec 15, 2007 12:38 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

while we're at it
(I always like getting a chance to throw this out)... the best defensive CF I have ever seen is Steve Finley.
His route-taking genius, overall intelligence and steady, uncomparable dependability.

Jimbo was VERY much like him (and certainly the better offensive player of the two)

by the Tewk on Dec 15, 2007 8:51 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

if he had been fully healthy
in 2006 and 2007, and had stayed with the club another year or two, or if we had won the world series more than once in his tenure I could see it.  IMO a guy needs to be a hall of famer and wear your hat into the HOF or lead a dynasty (which 2000-2006 just missed being) to get his number retired.
Christmas lights are an extremely efficient method for converting Christmas Spirit into heat. -anon

by SleepyCA on Dec 15, 2007 12:43 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

The HOF isn't relavent
Jim Edmonds is one of the all time greatest players in Cardinal history, and one of the greatest centerfielders in the history of the sport. He put up several MVP type seasons, and was the dominate player at his position during that stretch. Not only that, he won a championship here and was a team leader.
Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on Dec 15, 2007 12:48 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

hmmm...
If the 2000-2006 Cards cant be called a dynasty in todays game, I'm not sure what can.

I think the Cards should retire 15 once Jim retires (I also think they should retire 51 yesterday), not just for the way he played the game and how well he played it, but also for the other stuff: The tip of the cap before every game, taking over the "Larry Walker Leadership Role" and giving out game balls during the '06 postseason run, never missing an interview, opening a restaurant... just being (as cheesy as it sounds) a part of Cardinal nation.

I will be in briefs.

by Alxfritz on Dec 15, 2007 12:51 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I completely agree
I think his clubhouse leadership will be missed...
This is pretty sucktacular...  

Thanks Jimmy for many "I can't believe he caught that" moments... and some pretty sweet dingers...

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Dec 15, 2007 1:43 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

HOF assessment from 2004
Here's a link to Brian Gunn's HOF assessment for Edmonds, circa 2004, from his old Redbird Nation site.

http://redbirdnation.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_redbirdnation_archive.html#109203633060194317

Besides the Game 7, 2004 NLCS catch, I'll most remember him as the clubhouse leader in October 2006 when AP, the walking wounded, some castoffs, and a relief corp from nowhere did the improbable.

by ncgostl on Dec 15, 2007 7:58 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

If the page doesn't load in the right spot....
Look for the Monday August 9, 2004 post

by ncgostl on Dec 15, 2007 8:01 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Thanks for everything Jimmy
Best of luck in San Diego.  

"A great catch is like watching girls go by; the last one you see is always the prettiest." - Bob Gibson

by stl tyler on Dec 15, 2007 12:14 AM EST   0 recs