So long Jimmy Baseball
And thanks for the memories.
"Moving quickly to replace center fielder Mike Cameron, the Padres have agreed to a trade that will bring them center fielder Jim Edmonds, a 37-year-old who has won eight Gold Gloves.
The Cardinals are to get single-A third baseman David Freese, a minor leaguer. Cash will also be part of the deal, which could be made official as soon as Saturday. In talks last month, the Padres said they would be interested in Edmonds only if St. Louis helped to pay for his $8 million salary. "
What an offseason.
Update [2007-12-15 0:34:18 by lboros]: shocking news, but there's some logic to this move. it's not a great step down production-wise from 37-year-old jim edmonds to a centerfield medley of ankiel / barton / schumaker / rasmus; indeed, it might well be a step up. just playing a hunch --- i wonder if the cardinals are gonna take the savings from edmonds' salary (roughly $7m) and make a run at either loshe or silva. i'm not suggesting this would be a smart thing to do . . . . i'd have to think about that. but if that's indeed how it goes down, it would have the effect of shifting marginal payroll from a position where it isn't doing much good (centerfield) to one where it might really upgrade the team; they'd be no worse in cf but much better in the rotation.
this is pure speculation, and i'm probably way off the mark. but i gotta think this move was made with a subsequent move in mind. we'll see . . .
here's the current lineup:
schumaker cf
ankiel rf
pujols 1b
duncan lf
rolen 3b
kennedy 2b
molina c
izturis ss
pitcher
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This was already in the hot stove thread!!!
What a terrible trade. Nothing against Freese, I knew him in High School, he's a good kid, and not a bad ball player, but i'd of rather kept Edmonds.
Bad move by Mo in my opinion. This just free's up salary we aren't going to spend.
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Dec 14, 2007 10:56 PM EST 0 recs
Talk about a lot to live up to
by liam on
Dec 14, 2007 10:59 PM EST
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Yeah,
Glad they did it after all of the center fielders on the market were already signed! It's not that I disagree with a lot of Moz's signings/trades, but his timing is simply fuckawful.
by Alxfritz on
Dec 14, 2007 11:00 PM EST
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well
by SleepyCA on
Dec 14, 2007 11:18 PM EST
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Maybe
by BKKCard on
Dec 14, 2007 11:37 PM EST
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Very Sad...
I'll miss ya.
by davethebutcher on Dec 14, 2007 11:06 PM EST 0 recs
I (think) I agree
So many things on the plus side over the seven years... amazing catches in CF; some memorable clutch hitting; those weeks where he would go on a tear and carry the team.
But there was also his stubborn batting stance with his coast to coast leg spread, just BEGGING a smart pitcher to ring him up. All the more annoying when you saw some of those odd 'waves' at strike three, as if he was in a training film about how to distract the catcher when a runner was trying to steal second.
His hot-dogism vs. the teams crying need (under the Ayatollah LaRussa) for some kind of personality.
Oh yes, Jimbo... one eye cries and the other one twinkles, but I certainly WILL miss ya.
by the Tewk on
Dec 15, 2007 8:09 PM EST
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Food for thought:
Makes the offseason a bit more depressing, but could make spring training much more interesting.
by Alxfritz on Dec 14, 2007 11:08 PM EST 0 recs
He'll have competition
by liam on
Dec 14, 2007 11:13 PM EST
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But
Sometimes its about the intangibles, Liam.
by Alxfritz on
Dec 14, 2007 11:16 PM EST
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Shenanigans
by liam on
Dec 14, 2007 11:20 PM EST
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shenanigans
by mizzou on
Dec 14, 2007 11:59 PM EST
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Heh
I need to get out of the house and put away about that many to mourn the end of the Jim Edmonds Era.
by liam on
Dec 15, 2007 12:34 AM EST
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Another morsel:
by liam on
Dec 14, 2007 11:27 PM EST
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And
It's official: I'm excited to watch our not quite average team figure it all out in spring training!
by Alxfritz on
Dec 14, 2007 11:29 PM EST
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not likely
by montalban on
Dec 15, 2007 12:18 AM EST
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At least $1M cash
And copy-pasting from the other thread:
Sickels has him rated C+, saying:Other C+ guys include Drew Cumberland, Luis Durango, Drew Freese, Danny Payne, Nick Schmidt, and very good LOOGY Joe Thatcher. All interchangeable with the C+ guys above.So I suppose he's either the 10th best prospect in the Padres system or the 26th, depending on your mood. He looks like a pretty good prospect, but I didn't realize there was such a rush to get rid of Jimmy Ballgame.
by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:11 PM EST 0 recs
He seems like...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on
Dec 14, 2007 11:14 PM EST
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Completely depressed
I'll be rooting for him on the Pads. I hope he comes back.
by bretsyboo on Dec 14, 2007 11:12 PM EST 0 recs
Yeah,
This deal better be worth it in the end.
by aet15 on
Dec 15, 2007 2:02 AM EST
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seriously
Sad, sad way to end the glorious jimmy edmonds era.
by PolancoMcEwing on
Dec 15, 2007 2:39 AM EST
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MV2
by BKKCard on Dec 14, 2007 11:16 PM EST 0 recs
Dude
by Youneverknow on
Dec 15, 2007 3:37 AM EST
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No reason to be sad!
by Calhoun on Dec 14, 2007 11:21 PM EST 0 recs
Gave him away
Edmonds has been a great player for the Cardinals. From 00-05 it is not a stretch to say he was one of the top 3 center fielders in baseball. I hope he finishes off his career with one more year in the sun, as they say.
Its my hope that this means Rasmus and/or Barton are going into 08 with the inside track to the starting job. I think Skippy as the starter is a scary proposition. Then again, maybe Mo has a trick up his sleeve on this one...Or maybe the Cardinals baseball wheel-O-rama came up with "TRADE EDMONDS."
by redbirdnation8206 on Dec 14, 2007 11:21 PM EST 0 recs
batting first
by sportsman on
Dec 14, 2007 11:54 PM EST
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He'll be 25 next year
He's from St. Louis, though. I guess that's why the Cardinals got him.
by DiscoJer on
Dec 15, 2007 12:17 AM EST
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Freese was borned 4/28/83
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 12:22 AM EST
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Edmonds trade
by vances law on
Dec 15, 2007 9:42 AM EST
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thank you jim edmonds
does this make pujols the longest tenured cardinal now?
by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 14, 2007 11:28 PM EST 0 recs
Second that
And it would make Pujols the longest tenured active Cardinal. (Not counting managers and coaches)
by liam on
Dec 14, 2007 11:38 PM EST
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wanna talk about a guy who deserves more than this
by jimmyballgame on Dec 14, 2007 11:30 PM EST 0 recs
No need to change your name.
by Hollywood15 on
Dec 15, 2007 9:42 AM EST
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colbyballgame
by SleepyCA on
Dec 15, 2007 1:07 PM EST
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Hats off to you, Jimmy
Thanks for everything.
by cardzfan24 on Dec 14, 2007 11:31 PM EST 0 recs
Tip of the cap
by liam on Dec 14, 2007 11:42 PM EST 0 recs
David Freese
Nice to hear the crack of the bat.
by liam on
Dec 14, 2007 11:45 PM EST
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Good lord
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 12:26 AM EST
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jed
by sportsman on Dec 14, 2007 11:44 PM EST 0 recs
A 2B with On base skills
I'd be thoroughly annoyed if we signed Cameron. Much rather get the youth movement underway and see what Barton, Ankiel, Mather can do to MLB pitching day-in, day-out.
Our oldest position player is now Scott Spiezio at 35. Oldest regular is Rolen at 33.
Cameron will be 35 and he'd block the kids.
by liam on
Dec 14, 2007 11:51 PM EST
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Yes..
by cardschinmusic on
Dec 15, 2007 4:32 AM EST
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Sad.
JE was one of the greatest centerfielders off all time; yeah-- he's washed up, but he will still be missed.
by JI on Dec 14, 2007 11:50 PM EST 0 recs
it was a great ride, but
by punchinjudy on Dec 14, 2007 11:53 PM EST 0 recs
chipper up....
Meanwhile, I'm crushed and looking at the schedule for the Pads to come to town....mid July??
by cardschinmusic on
Dec 15, 2007 4:30 AM EST
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Sniff
by stl tyler on Dec 15, 2007 12:04 AM EST 0 recs
more $$$
by sportsman on Dec 15, 2007 12:05 AM EST 0 recs
I'd like to say "Peace" to Jim Edmonds
by 26thMan on Dec 15, 2007 12:06 AM EST 0 recs
this is like a freaking nightmare
- seeing jimmy retire as a cardinal
- the debut of colby rasmus
by cards4life on Dec 15, 2007 12:09 AM EST 0 recs
If we're gonna finish in last place
by JI on
Dec 15, 2007 12:21 AM EST
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Really???
by Big Head on
Dec 15, 2007 12:24 AM EST
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You're talking about one of the 15-20 best
by JI on
Dec 15, 2007 12:26 AM EST
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I have been watching centerfielders
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 12:35 AM EST
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Edmonds was always overrated on defense
He's comparable to Duke Snider, although probably no quite as good as him.
by JI on
Dec 15, 2007 12:42 AM EST
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Snider
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 12:59 AM EST
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I'm talking about
-Offense
-Defense
-Everything in between
by JI on
Dec 15, 2007 1:13 AM EST
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Snider did not
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 1:36 AM EST
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Snider
He also is offensively similar to Edmonds. 140 career OPS+ and a five-year run of dominance. I'm willing to accept that he's not the defender Jimmy was. I'm too young to have seen him play, and don't know of anything that anecdotally supports elite defense.
by plh903 on
Dec 15, 2007 3:55 AM EST
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snider moment
by sportsman on
Dec 15, 2007 9:17 AM EST
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I think I remember that game
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 10:24 AM EST
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This is where studying stats can be misleading
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 9:38 AM EST
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You probably hate Alex Rodriguez too.
Tie game: .254/.388/.521
Within 1 run: .292/.393/.639
Within 2 runs: .285/.382/.610
Close and Late: .304/.354/.674
within > 4 runs: .212/.368/.452
That was his last big year, his clutch stats from 1958 (where his overall line was far less impressive), are even better.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=snidedu01&year=1957
by JI on
Dec 15, 2007 11:19 AM EST
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No, I don't hat e Arod
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 4:33 PM EST
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correction
by ridgesee on
Dec 15, 2007 12:48 AM EST
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Probably so
by 26thMan on
Dec 15, 2007 12:38 AM EST
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while we're at it
His route-taking genius, overall intelligence and steady, uncomparable dependability.
Jimbo was VERY much like him (and certainly the better offensive player of the two)
by the Tewk on
Dec 15, 2007 8:51 PM EST
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if he had been fully healthy
by SleepyCA on
Dec 15, 2007 12:43 AM EST
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The HOF isn't relavent
by JI on
Dec 15, 2007 12:48 AM EST
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hmmm...
I think the Cards should retire 15 once Jim retires (I also think they should retire 51 yesterday), not just for the way he played the game and how well he played it, but also for the other stuff: The tip of the cap before every game, taking over the "Larry Walker Leadership Role" and giving out game balls during the '06 postseason run, never missing an interview, opening a restaurant... just being (as cheesy as it sounds) a part of Cardinal nation.
by Alxfritz on
Dec 15, 2007 12:51 AM EST
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I completely agree
This is pretty sucktacular...
Thanks Jimmy for many "I can't believe he caught that" moments... and some pretty sweet dingers...
by RosevilleRedbird on
Dec 15, 2007 1:43 AM EST
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HOF assessment from 2004
http://redbirdnation.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_redbirdnation_archive.html#109203633060194317
Besides the Game 7, 2004 NLCS catch, I'll most remember him as the clubhouse leader in October 2006 when AP, the walking wounded, some castoffs, and a relief corp from nowhere did the improbable.
by ncgostl on
Dec 15, 2007 7:58 AM EST
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If the page doesn't load in the right spot....
by ncgostl on
Dec 15, 2007 8:01 AM EST
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Thanks for everything Jimmy





by stl tyler on Dec 15, 2007 12:14 AM EST 0 recs


