Rolen to Brewers/Edmonds to Texas?
Rumors not yet heard:
apparently, the Brewers have had internal discussions regarding acquiring Rolen. This doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense unless Braun moves to LF, but it's a rumor I haven't heard yet. Who would they offer in return? If the Cards eat some of Rolen's salary, then Capuano could be available. This doesn't seem very likely, even ignoring the fact that intra-division trades are rare, but I'm bored and interested in any Cardinals-related discussion not involving TLR's DUI/Silva/Lohse/or SS.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/11/brewers-rumors.html
Apparently the Rangers are looking for a CF since they missed out on Hunter, aren't very interested in Rowand, and aren't getting anywhere with Crisp until Boston finishes with its negotiations for Santana. Candidates apparently include Pierre, Baldelli, and Edmonds. Pierre seems stupid because of the money and years, Baldelli's value is completely unknown at this point, so that leaves Edmonds. I would think that the Cards want Edmonds to retire as a Cardinal, and he's a 10-5 player and might very well veto a trade to TX, but again... I'm bored. I can't imagine that TX would offer much in the way of propects or valuable MLB-ready talent, and the Cards don't have much OF depth with Encarnacion out and Ankiel still a relatively unknown quantity, but stranger things have happened.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/11/starks-latest-e.html
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The very idea
by houstoncardinal on Nov 29, 2007 8:20 PM EST 0 recs
Cabrera
by chicagocardfan on Nov 29, 2007 8:43 PM EST 0 recs
i cant understand
the only way Jimmy is gone is if Rasmus has a batshit crazy spring like Albert did in 01. and the only teams Jimmy will play for are on the west coast that have a chance of making the playoffs. there is absolutely zero chance Jimmy will spend his final year in baseball losing 100 games in the heat of Texas.
by gdm426 on Nov 29, 2007 9:07 PM EST 0 recs
although
I however doubt either move..unless they go to the giants cause they like old overpriced guys on the decline.
by punchinjudy on
Nov 29, 2007 9:25 PM EST
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reading comprehension...
however, i do believe that Brewers have had "internal discussions" regarding Rolen. i'll bet just about every team in baseball has. and i also believe that TX has considered going after JED. i don't consider the final trade probabilities of either to be (esp. JED), but they are certainly non-zero. in any case, neither i (nor mlbtraderumors) suggested that these deals were likely. merely that internal discussions have taken place in Milwaukee and Arlington. that certainly is believable.
also, it's hard to be down on mlbtraderumors as a news aggregator, since 95% (or more) of their sources are published newspaper/magazine articles, as are both of these.
by kindred on
Nov 29, 2007 9:57 PM EST
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no offense intended kindred
i've heard & read a lot of bad stuff about that site. i forget the guys name who runs it, but in the past he's had some very pro windy city columns on there. and some very anti pro Cardinal related columns on there.
personally i dont trust flub fans. when it comes to windy city fans & their ability to report rumors & the news in a fair & balanced way, i dont think they can.
any way, as for the rumors themselves, i didnt comment on rolen because like you said the Cards will not eat any part of his salary, & as of now want a "star player" in return. like the guy they got in the form of pre-injury scott rolen circa 2002. and as of right now, that's not going to happen. so does it really matter if the brew crew had internal discussions about trading for him? to us die hards no it does not. every team that wants miggie & tejada & does not get them will most certainly call MO up & see if the price has come down.
i stand by my statement about edmonds. he has full no trade protection & unless the Rangers blow the Cards away with a trade, & MO & all the owners beg & bribe Jimmy to accept the trade, he will not spend his final year in baseball playing in texas. he's said if he's not playing in the STL, he will only play for a playoff contender on the west coast.
by gdm426 on
Nov 30, 2007 2:56 AM EST
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MLB Trade Rumors...
The Edmonds rumor comes from ESPN's Jayson Stark, who says that because the Red Sox have put all Coco Crisp talks on hold until the Santana trade talks are done, teams are making alternative plans. He mentions, specifically, that "The Rangers, for instance, are believed to have kicked the tires on a group that includes Rocco Baldelli, Jim Edmonds and Juan Pierre." That's it.
The Rolan rumor comes from the Brewers blog of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal. Tom Haudricourt, a beat reporter for the paper, simply says that Doug Melvin talked about Rolan, but moved on because the Cardinals won't eat any of Scott's salary.
Both probably did occur, but never had the chance to heat up--the Brewers aren't the kind of team to take on a salary like Rolan's, and Edmonds has a no-trade clause, so if he leaves, he'll probably want to go to a contender.
by Forsch31 on
Nov 29, 2007 11:05 PM EST
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One more rumour layed to rest...
Well....wow! @@!! Is Ed Wade subbing in Houston!
by cardschinmusic on Nov 30, 2007 7:24 AM EST 0 recs
ABOUT EDMONDS
by ahahs on Nov 30, 2007 8:36 AM EST 0 recs
Wait
Maybe I'm cynical, but that just doesn't sound plausible.
by Ray Lankford on
Nov 30, 2007 11:12 AM EST
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yes thats exactly right!
by ahahs on
Nov 30, 2007 11:50 AM EST
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Well
I don't remember that last year, but that doesn't mean its not true. I think there might also be some tension between he and Tony after he put Jim on the DL and Jim supposedly didn't know anything about it.
by Ray Lankford on
Nov 30, 2007 12:02 PM EST
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Double Agent
by gibbyfan on
Nov 30, 2007 11:58 AM EST
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Rolen
by PujolsRules on Nov 30, 2007 10:03 AM EST 0 recs














