(espn says) Beane says Haren is for sale

by rocKStark5 on Nov 11, 2007 3:22 PM EST

I was over at my Mistress Team's blog and they front paged this. Think he'll go for a take back with Mulder?

By marcbouch9
Posted on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 01:50:18 PM EDT

ESPN reported that Billy Beane may make Dan Haren available to replenish the A's farm system.

Haren is under contract through 2010 at $4M in '08, $5.5M in '09, and a club option $6.75M in '09.

The question then is what would the A's want back for him. Boston Globe has reported that the A's would require Clay Bucholz or Jon Lester from the Red Sox. Who would you be willing to part with to make this deal?

[editor's note, by jscape2000] front paged by jscape2000

He'll be 27 years old in 2008 and has pitched more than 200 innings each of the last three years, to a 1.2 WHIP. While he's among the most underrated pitchers, I'm not sure he's worth a member of the Trinity.
I'd trade Haren for Betances and cash- and that's saying quite a lot. Otherwise, Horne and Whelan, or a similar package.

I'd give as much for Haren as I would for Santana.

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So it sounds like they want pitching

The Cardinals have no young pitchers who are at the Clay Bucholtz or Jon Lester level.

I don't think STL stands a chance in this sweepstakes.

They might as well just ignore the idea.

by ICbirdfan on Nov 11, 2007 3:14 PM EST reply actions

You can never go home again.

The Red Blazer

by Red Blazer on Nov 11, 2007 4:04 PM EST reply actions

He never should have LEFT home...

But there's no need to get into all that again.

by svengali on Nov 11, 2007 4:21 PM EST up reply actions

Sure you can

Adam Kennedy
Braden Looper
Steve Traschel
Tino Martinez
Andy Pettitte
etc...

"Well, you wait for a strike. Then you knock the shit out of it. - Musial to Flood on how to hit a curveball

by Hardcore Legend on Nov 11, 2007 4:35 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, but

let's be honest. It'd be beyond idiotic for the A's to trade Haren considering the contract he has.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Nov 11, 2007 5:04 PM EST up reply actions

Stirring the vat...

Bingo!

Improve the Cardinals team spirit, integrity and positive public image...sign Bonds for 08'!

by cardschinmusic on Nov 12, 2007 5:41 AM EST up reply actions

Other than Looper, and just barely how have those

trips down memory lane played out?

The Red Blazer

by Red Blazer on Nov 12, 2007 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

Horne and Whelan..

No way would that go down. Horne is solid, but I think Whelan will be a set-up man at best. Buchholz and Lester are far better than any Cardinals pitching prospects, except maybe Jaime Garcia (who is nowhere as good as Buchholz).

by KeepOnRolen on Nov 11, 2007 4:24 PM EST reply actions

It's classic Beane

He just had a great season in which he was in contention for the Cy...now he's going to package him off to another team for two good young pitchers who are under team control so that Oakland can keep being good enough to win but not good enough to contend for years. This is what I don't want to see in the St. Louis organization.

"The Cardinals have won a World Series in THEIR new stadium!" --my Uncle Jim to a heckling Cubs fan

by fourstick on Nov 11, 2007 5:03 PM EST reply actions

The A's

They made the playoffs for four straight years from '00-'03 and have made the playoffs in 5 of the last 8 years.

Not too shabby of a run.

"I'm hungry. Not for food. Just for baseball" Amaury Cazana Marti

by bobbyballgame1 on Nov 11, 2007 9:44 PM EST up reply actions

yeah

The Orioles have spent tons of money over the years and when was the last time they made the playoffs? 1996?

by ICbirdfan on Nov 11, 2007 10:00 PM EST up reply actions

Um...huh?

"...Oakland can keep being good enough to win but not good enough to contend for years."

The A's went to the ALCS in 06 and have won 740 games since the 2000 season, all with a budget the size of Alex Rodriguez's and Derek Jeter's combined annual salaries. The playoffs have a very large luck component (ie balls landing fair/foul by an inch, a horrible ump, etc.) and so I would argue being one of the best teams of this decade IS contending.

by redbirdnation8206 on Nov 13, 2007 10:17 AM EST up reply actions

Blanton

Joe Blanton may also be available, according to Ken Rosenthal. He's not as good as Haren, but he's pretty solid. We'd have a better chance to get him instead of Haren. Either way, we would probably have to trade Rasmus for either/or, so we should probably pass.

by BigdJC on Nov 11, 2007 5:54 PM EST reply actions

He's 3 years from free agency

therefore, probably worth more than Santana. Santana's a better pitcher but 3 years of Haren is better than 1 of Santana. He'd be worth quite a bounty. We don't have it.

by chuckb on Nov 11, 2007 6:00 PM EST reply actions

Bad move

I think Haren's value is peaked. Beane realizes this and so he wants to move him. Buy low, sell high- thats how he got Haren in the first place and that is how he will get Haren's replacement.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Nov 11, 2007 6:07 PM EST reply actions

Well

Beane would see value in Reyes so

Reyes, Mather and Octavio?

That's two pitchers and an OF just what he wants.

Not to mention that with that ballpark he would know that it's 50/50 Reyes would outpitch Haren.

by Harknights on Nov 11, 2007 6:10 PM EST reply actions

i'd be for it

but i wouldnt give up much. billy boy bent the Cards over with the Mulder deal, so if i'm MO,
i tread lightly if billy boy calls me up. i'd give up no more than some A ball players.

fool me once, shame on you.

fool me twice shame on me.

MO cant afford to be stupid this winter. letting billy boy have his way with the Cards farms system
AGAIN would be more than stupid.

it'd be catastrophic.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Nov 11, 2007 7:14 PM EST reply actions