October 8 Playoff Game Open Thread

by lboros on Oct 8, 2007 5:26 PM EDT in St. Louis Cardinals News


byrd	wang
15-8, 4.59	19-7, 3.70

a couple of off-seasons ago, the cardinals were linked to both of these players. byrd, a pitch-to-contacter par excellence, was a free agent for the 4th time in 6 years, and the cards were said to be interested --- but he came to terms with the indians while walter & co were still chasing a.j. burnett. as for wang, two novembers ago bernie miklasz heard a rumor about an edmonds-for-wang-and-cano trade. no doubt cardinal fans would have denounced the deal at that time, but it would have turned out to be a windfall for st louis. from what i've been able to piece together, this rumor had substance behind it --- the cardinals made the offer, and the yankees declined it. until very recently, the yankees regularly used to fall for that type of bait . . . . jocketty never really lost his touch; the other teams wised up, that's all.

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Does anybody know a SPORTS bar...

To watch the BASEBALL playoffs and not every screen dedicated to Football in St. Louis??

I went to Buffalo Wild Wings Saturday to watch the Cubs get swept out of the series and nothing but football. So I went down to Side Pockets...same thing. I had to watch the Cubs continue a 100 year run on a mid sized plasma with no sound next to the waitress station. Sunday I wasn't even going to try.

Baseball town my ass.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Oct 8, 2007 5:22 PM EDT reply actions

Have you ever asked to change the channel?

Most sports bar type places I've been to anywhere will turn a TV to something you want if you ask.

by saladdays on Oct 8, 2007 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

SportsZone

in Shrewsbury? Or just go to your local bar and ask 'em to change the channel. That normally works for me.

Well, let's go to the old mill anyway -- get some cider!

by Alxfritz on Oct 8, 2007 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, yes

Just as a sidenote: I didn't know there was a Side Pockets in St. Louis.

Otherwise, try a multitude of places.

Buffalo and Side Pockets will turn on anything they have access to.

Johnny's or McGurk's in Soulard will turn on anything you want.

Weber's Front Row in Shrewsbury/Maplewood (?) will turn on anything.

Fox and Hound (in the Chesterfield Valley) will turn on anything.

Krieger's will turn on anything.

I'm sure there are hundreds more, but those came to mind first.

stlfan

by stlfan on Oct 8, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Wang on short rest

He pitched this gem on two days rest after pitching 2/3 IP for the save in this game back in 2006.

I think I'd've gone with Wang on short rest over the Moose, who was ineffective in his last start of the regular season.

by liam on Oct 8, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions

I definitely would

b/c it also allows them to come back w/ Pettitte in game 5.

by chuckb on Oct 8, 2007 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Presumably Mussina

is shadowing Wang so it shouldn't hurt too much to see if Wang has his A-grade sinker. If not, hopefully Torre has a short leash on him.

by azruavatar on Oct 8, 2007 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Joe and I

Both picked wrong.

Unfairly, I still have to go to work tomorrow.

by liam on Oct 8, 2007 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I remember the rumor

about the Cano/Wang for JimmE trade. I was very excited about the possiblity. I called my brother in the Bronx to talk to him about it.

In his new york accent he said "No F'in' way the Yankees trade two future super stars for some F'in' broken down old outfielder. Edmonds is F'in' done! Besides the Yanks are going to sign Damon."

by nybirdfan on Oct 8, 2007 8:07 PM EDT reply actions

Many moons ago there was also this rumor

Ray Lankford for Andy Pettite.

Can't remember the year though maybe 1999/00.

At that point in time Lankford was hitting behind McGwire and was still putting up pretty good power numbers.

by KYCards on Oct 8, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

Even in a video game big Z gets shelled

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/954/954663/vids_1.html?RSSwhen2007-10-08_175100&RSSid=825809

by StLHugo on Oct 8, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions

I was just thinking to my self

self, it's really no fun when you figure out that you're posting one thread behind everybody else. then you catch up to speed and find that there isn't much going on there anyway.

so my two most detested teams, yanks and cowboys, are both losing with the focus of monday night. where is the celebration? or is everyone still fearful of a comeback?

We had some real live Tribe fans at Duffy's tonight, and the usual amount of Yankee haters, plus a contingent of Cowboy naysayers and T.O. dooms wishers to boot.

Then Hugo finds a link to watch another defeat of the cubs. It's been a good night.

Watching the Playoffs as Reigning Champs is not a bad thing.

by Birds on the Bat on Oct 8, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions

Been lurking at Let's Go Tribe

Those guys are all-stars...on their third gameday thread. Pretty profane, though...more than VEB anyway. Still a little too soon for celebration.

But LOVIN' it that the Cowboys are getting beat by the BILLS. Need a little more room in that one, too, before you can really celebrate.

But, all in all, good way to start the week.

by cardsgirlinAR on Oct 8, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Stupid Bills!

by liam on Oct 9, 2007 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions

How about a bit more of that Yankee magic?

2 runs down still.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Oct 8, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions

Poetic an ex cub gets the save

07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap..with replacement actors

by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions

Sorry but

being able to see sad Yankee fans is cool.

Goodbye Joe...Goodbye A-Rod...Goodbye Roger. Did I forget anyone?

by Harknights on Oct 8, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions

Well that f***s up my bracket

I'll take the the Indians in 6, larry.

I simply can't root for the Red Sox. New England (Boston) fans are simply the most anoying in all sports, much less baseball.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Oct 8, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions

Yes they are worse than New York/ Yankees fans.

The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!

by Zubin on Oct 8, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Indians RoX

07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap..with replacement actors

by punchinjudy on Oct 8, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions

How long before the LaRussa to Yankees

Rumors start up?

Of course Tony hasn't made his decision with returning to the Cards yet and Torre hasn't officially been fired either but you just know Tony's name will be thrown in the hat with the media if Tony decides to leave the Cardinals.

Bernie even threw out a "theory" that Tony was waiting to see how the Yankees series ended before he gives his decision.

Personally I think if Torre is gone either Mattingly or Giradi will become the manager, but Tony could be a wild card, if he does leave the Cards.

by KYCards on Oct 9, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions

Or how long before Torre back to the Cards

Someone's going to post the idea and it might as well be me. Actually, someone probably has posted it and I missed it. It would be interesting to compare the rosters between the Torre years and the late LaRussa years.

Time to bring up the prospects.

by CraveCase on Oct 9, 2007 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions