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the sack of troy

troy cate was sailing along last night vs hermosillo, with a 4-0 lead through 5 innings; he'd yielded only 2 hits and a walk up to that point, with 5 strikeouts. but he walked the #9 hitter leading off the bottom of the 6th and suffered the bitter consequences. a base hit and 2-run double followed; cate struck out erubiel durazo but yielded a run-scoring single to the next guy. a groundout advanced the tying run into scoring position with two outs and brought up geronimo gil, the naranjeros' 2d-leading home-run hitter. with vinny castilla on deck, cate didn't have the luxury of pitching too carefully; gil smoked a basehit into center and knotted the score at 4s.

so ended cate's night. but the inning continued: gil went to third on castilla's single off relief pitcher jose cobos, then scored the go-ahead run on a wild pitch. the run was charged to cate --- whose final line read 5.2 inn, 6 h, 5 er, 2 bb, 6 so --- and it left him on the hook for the loss. with two outs in the top of the 9th, mazatlan leadoff man dionys cesar poked a single to bring the tying baserunner around 3d. the throw beat the runner to the plate, but gil dropped the ball --- score tied; no decision for cate. the 5-5 deadlock held until the bottom of the 12th inning, when luis garcia blasted a homer off venados relief pitcher fernando salas to give hermosillo a 6-5 win and a 1-0 lead in the series.

sounds like it was a pretty exciting ballgame; all the details in this article (scroll down to the bottom for the box score). edgar v gonzalez returned to the starting lineup but went 0 for 5 with 4 strikeouts; he's in an 0 for 16 playoff slump. ex-cardinal hurler luther hackman pitched 2 scoreless frames.

the cards' director of minor-league operations, john vuchs, had some interesting things to say about cate the other day during a live chat at the cardinals' fan-home forum:

Spring training will be vital in determining who makes the jump [to the Memphis rotation] at the start of the year. Blake Hawksworth, Chris Lambert and Mike Parisi probably have the inside track, but Jordan Pals really looked like he turned things around late in the year, and finished up on a high note with 7 straight quality starts, so he'll get a serious look as well. Stu Pomeranz could be in the mix if he has a strong spring, and Troy Cate showed the ability to work as a starter while pitching in the Mexican Winter League, so I think we should be able to fill at least two of the spots with our most qualified pitchers from the '06 Springfield staff.
lotta good information in that thread; a few items:
  • parisi and lambert will be invited to the cards' big-league camp, along with colby rasmus, bryan anderson, mike sillman, and mark worrell. the rasmus invite suggests to me that he has a good chance to start the season at double A. anderson spent all of last year at low A and needs to work on his defense, so he'll probably head for palm beach.
  • on hawksworth: "He's got a major league fastball and an above-avg major league changeup. I think now that he'll be another year removed from his surgery, he has a chance to pick up another couple MPH's on his fastball, but even if he doesn't, he's learned how to pitch effectively with what velocity he has now."
  • on jaime garcia: "Ideally, Garcia would start the year at Palm Beach, but if he is lights out during the spring, he'd have a shot at making the AA club." mitchell boggs, who already has spent a full year at high-A, is considered a stronger bet to begin the season at double A.
  • chris perez is penciled in to start the season at high A but is projected as "a quick mover."
  • travis hanson will be back at triple A; they're writing off his miserable 2006 to a spring-training illness
  • vuchs' favorite sleeper prospect: luke gregerson, a 28th-rounder from st xavier university who split last season between rookie ball and short-season A. he was old for both leagues (22) but obviously ready for stiffer competition; struck out 13 guys per 9.
just reading between the lines, it would appear that the club would prefer to promote hawksworth, lambert, and parisi to the memphis rotation, where they'll join mike smith and randy keisler; pomeranz, pals, and eric haberer would spend another season at double A, joined in the rotation there by boggs and, possibly, cate; i'd rather have them leave cate in the bullpen, where he was so dominant last season, but it seems as if the organization might be looking to shift him back to a starting role. no matter how that shakes out, it sounds as if garcia will likely start the year at high-A alongside ottavino and mark mccormick, with cory meacham, trey hearne, and adam daniels competing for the other rotation slots.

as for position players: ankiel is already bound for memphis, and the other candidates for the outfield there include schumaker, gorecki, eli marrero, ryan ludwick, amaury marti, stavinoha, and haerther . . . . . what a logjam. marrero can shift to other positions, and gorecki is out of favor and might be cut. the infield presumably will comprise tagg bozied at first, edgar gonzalez at 2b, hanson at 3d, and brendan ryan at ss, with michel hernandez behind the plate. i think bo hart is still around also . . . . some of those outfielders will stay down at springfield, with rasmus joining them and also, very likely, john jay. i think tyler greene will be there too.

elsewhere:

  • at baseball think factory they're having an interesting discussion about ted simmons, the cardinals' best player back when i was a kid. it's as much about the circumstances of simmons' departure (whitey herzog dealt him to the brewers in 1980/81, in what many deemed a terrible trade for the cards) as about his merits as a ballplayer, which are considerable. simmons ranks in the franchise's all-time top 10 in hits, doubles, homers, rbis, and walks; he's the all-time leader in intentional walks (pujols trails him by 53, or about two seasons' worth) and sac flies. . . . also stands second all-time (behind stan the man) in gidp. last i heard (ca 2005), simmons was scouting for the padres; if anybody knows different, i'd be curious.
  • i missed this one last month: the nationals hired tom herr to manage their low-A affiliate at hagerstown, in the sally league. herr has managed the last couple of seasons for lancaster (pa.) in the atlantic league of professional baseball, an independent circuit; his pitching coach there was rick wise, forever linked in cardinal lore to steve carlton. here's his lancaster bio page; and here's an interview herr gave last week to milb.com.
  • the cubs want their hitters to run some deeper counts; i suppose that's why they signed soriano . . . .
  • jason marquis wants sosa's old number; the cubs are like, "whatever, take it."
  • tomo ohka and tony armas jr are still looking for jobs
  • Amazin Avenue on jorge sosa: "ohmigod, this pitcher sucks."

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Herr
Is from Lancaster, I do believe. At least that's where he raised his son. Pretty cool gig for him. In other transcendent-1980's-secondbasemen-turned-low-level-minor-league-manager news, Ryne Sandberg will be managing the Peoria Chiefs this year, taking the reigns from another player who sticks out from my childhood, Jody Davis.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Jan 23, 2007 9:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised
Vuchs isn't any higher on Garcia.  I figured he'd spend much of his year at Memphis after starting at Springfield.  That is good news on Hawksworth.  I'm hoping his upside is still pretty high.

by chuckb on Jan 23, 2007 10:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jamie Garcia
I think your getting starter/reliever Jose Garcia mixed up with Jamie Garcia. Cards are very high on Jamie Garcia. The 19 y/o Jamie started last season at Quad Cities going 5-4 in 13 starts with a 2.90 ERA, 77.2 IP, 80 k's, 1.09 ERA. He was promoted mid-year to Palm Beach where he also went 5-4, 3.84 ERA, 77.1 IP, 51 K's and a 1.29 WHIP.

by BleacherBum593 on Jan 23, 2007 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jaime Garcia is who I meant
I figured he'd start at Springfield and move up to Memphis this year w/ a chance to make a couple of starts w/ St. Louis.  BP says he's close now to being ready despite the fact that his ceiling isn't that high.  I'd be surprised if he didn't start at AA.

by chuckb on Jan 23, 2007 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Getting excited
I never realized we had that much 'depth' in the high-minors. I say it like that because we always seem to be crucifying the Cardinals for depleting the system. Now, it seems like for the first time we are going to be okay and have some real battles this spring.

As for the Memphis rotation, what happened to any of last year's starters..mainly Tankersly. Do we still have him?

Pujols just did WHAT...

by gforce on Jan 23, 2007 10:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not really
We have depth in career minor leaguer/non-impact players in the minors, but only a handful of prospects.  Still only have a handful of guys that will sniff any significant role at the major leagues at any point in their careers.
Pujols > God

by joker24 on Jan 23, 2007 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lambert?
If this is the kind of "talent" they're counting on at AAA I'm glad I don't live in Memphis...

by Pokey Joe on Jan 23, 2007 11:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who...
pee'd in this guys cheerios?
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jan 23, 2007 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One of the Amazin' avenue comments on Sosa:
'But I think the Mets owned him not because of a problem with his stuff so much as a problem with location, pitch selection, and psychology.  With Sosa and Mota both potentially in the bullpen, the Mets ought to invest in a Spanish-speaking sports psychologist.  Or maybe just a big sign saying "Lay off the fastball once in a while, dumbass." '

by Valatan on Jan 23, 2007 11:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lambert
It's weird how they're just pushing Chris Lambert forward, even though he's shown absolutely nothing at AA. I think his best chance at this point is hoping he picks up velocity in a relief role.

by DanUpBaby on Jan 23, 2007 12:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say he's shown absolutely nothing...
...but pretty close.  I think Lambert should at least start the year at AA.

by saladdays on Jan 23, 2007 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's moving up
out of necessity -- to make room for other pitchers who are moving up to AA.  It seems like it's "put up or shut up" time for Lambert.  He's going to have to start to produce or he will be passed by Garcia, Ottavino, and some of the others.

by chuckb on Jan 23, 2007 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

relief role
interestingly enough, a number of his high PECOTA comps are failed pitchers who did get converted into relievers. . . . .

by lboros on Jan 23, 2007 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I asked a couple of weeks ago
in a discussion here about the possibility of Lambert becoming a reliever or possibly a future closer.  I haven't looked at Lambert's #'s on PECOTA but I wonder if any of those relievers were closers.  If he has trouble throwing strikes, maybe he could focus better in 1 inning stints rather than trying to put everything together for 5 or 6.

by chuckb on Jan 23, 2007 4:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For what it's worth
Hardball Times has a new analysis that lists Lambert as being the AA pitcher who last year was victimized the most by outward-blowing winds.

by DCGreg on Jan 23, 2007 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fly Ball Rate
I wonder how high Lambert's fly ball rate was last year?

by lostraven on Jan 23, 2007 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow!
talk about your bad luck!  I could see him trying to be too fine w/ his pitches out of fear that they would turn into homers.  Even so, he had some pretty bad #'s and I doubt it was all b/c of strong tail winds.  

by chuckb on Jan 23, 2007 4:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HA HA
I read the cubbies blog about Marquis wanting #21 and some the the responses were that Maybe he can wear #21 and make the Cubs forget about Sammy Sosa because he left on such bad terms. You think once Jason pitches, they will ask Sammy to come back to make them forget about Marquis?
Play hard, play to win, but make it fun!

by Edmonds is baseball on Jan 23, 2007 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure
that Sosa can't pitch any better than Marquis!  And Sosa will earn less w/ the Rangers.

by chuckb on Jan 23, 2007 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

McCormick
RHP M.McCormick had off-season labrum surgery.
He will not be 100% during the spring.

Also, we need to add M. Negron to the
outfield puzzle at Memphis.

by ArRedbird on Jan 23, 2007 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hart
Strange. I thought the Rockies picked up Hart on
minor league contract. I guess that didn't work out?

shrug Not that Hart has done much since 2004.

by lostraven on Jan 23, 2007 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Memphis
Do you think Ankiel will begin the season at AAA or AA. Besides a hand full of people in Memphis, nobody here keeps track of the Cards minor league system and its players. With Gall gone, Reyes and Wainy, and Duncan staying full time in the Bigs, amd Tankersly to the Tigers, most Memphians won't know any of the players on this team but Bo Hart. Ankiel will bring some name reginition to Memphis, but I don't know if he is ready yet.
Play hard, play to win, but make it fun!

by Edmonds is baseball on Jan 23, 2007 2:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hart
Bo was released at the end of the 2006 season.

The fight for the MI at Memphis will probably see

Edgar Gonzalez (Adrain's brother) and Jolbert  Cabera at 2B and John Nelson and Brendan Ryan at SS.

With some of our top prospects moving up to Memphis plus a new manager there, it could become a good summer for Memphis fans.

by BleacherBum593 on Jan 23, 2007 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hart
We got him back last season for some reason?!?
Play hard, play to win, but make it fun!

by Edmonds is baseball on Jan 23, 2007 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ohka gone for beans
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6400990

Less than a million for Ohka?  I didn't think Wells was a bad gamble, but dang...this is Ryan Franklin money.

by RedbirdRay on Jan 23, 2007 3:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no kidding
didn't his agent cut off contact with the Cards a month or two ago because we wouldn't agree to guarantee a third year?

by tdawg on Jan 23, 2007 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ouch
they could've had both ohka and john thomson, plus craig wilson ---- all on one-year deals --- for less than they're paying kip wells.

hindsight and all . . . . .

by lboros on Jan 23, 2007 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel
I think I read today that he's ticketed for Memphis.

by Pokey Joe on Jan 23, 2007 5:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ted Simmons
This was one of Ted Simmons' most memorable games - and he had plenty as a Cardinal.

In spring training 1979, Simmons was hit by a pitch thrown by Jerry Reuss of the Dodgers. I'm sorry I can't give details on that, but the Cards thought it was outrageous in a spring game and I have the impression Simmons was somewhat hurt, although he was in the opening day lineup and so could not have been truly injured.

The Cards and Dodgers played a series in Busch in early June but Reuss did not start in the series; he made a relief appearance and did not bat. The first time the Cards faced Reuss was on a Monday night in Los Angeles, June 11. Reuss came to bat in a 3-run Dodger first inning and even though Bob Sykes had to be on the verge of getting knocked out of the game, he drilled Reuss big-time. If I remember correctly, he knocked down Reuss with a pitch and then hit him with another. I distinctly recall Mike Shannon calling it a "major-league knockdown" and giving a little background on the spring-training incident.

In the top of the second, Reuss retaliated by hitting both Sykes and Lou Brock--and in those days, remained in the game. You can imagine how charged up the atmosphere was. In the third, Simmons came to bat with the bases loaded and hit a grand slam. As he ran the bases at Dodger Stadium he pumped his fist in the air. The game went back and forth, and in the 9th, with the score tied, 7-7, Simmons homered again, off of Lerrin LaGrow. Cards won, 9-7. Six RBIs on the night for Teddy, including home runs from both sides of the plate.

The win capped a 10-3 stretch for the Cards, giving them a 32-22 record. They went on to lose six in a row and 10 of their next 12 games, and never seriously contended after that. It's interesting to think of all the emotion that went into that game, and to speculate on its effect afterward. Maybe none. Those '79 Cards were a frustrating team for many reasons.

by Youneverknow on Jan 23, 2007 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NIce.
Great story!

Thanks for sharing it.  Makes one a bit wistful for the days when the players policed themselves, doesn't it?

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Jan 24, 2007 12:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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