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Game 135 Open Thread: September 3, 2006


reyes               snell
4-6, 4.73        12-8, 4.70

First and foremost, thanks to lboros for letting me contribute to such a great blog. VEB is something I read every day and I'm honored to be able to write here. I loved writing for my own departed blog, Reverend Redbird, but just didn't have the time to do it the way I would have liked with a lot of stuff going on personally. But this once-a-week blogging here should work nicely.

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12 runners left on base. How the Pirates won the game, let alone shut the Cardinals out, is puzzling to say the least. I'd have to reckon that was the unluckiest loss of the season, and certainly had to be the unluckiest loss of Jeff Weaver's career. Just plain weird. According to the Win Expectancy Finder, the Cardinals had over a 60% probability of winning that game in 9 different scenarios. Credit Bucco reliever Solomon Torres, his strikeouts of Ronnie D-o-double-jizzle and P-Dub was worth 39.7% of Win Expectancy alone. Wilson looked absolutely ridiculous swinging for strike 3 on that splitter. It seems like the Cardinals have stranded an awful lot of hitters in 06, but looking at their team BA/RISP coming into last night's affair, the Cards are batting .284, good for 2nd in the NL behind the Dodgers. Huh.

The stat gurus at The Hardball Times have a metric called "clutch" , which roughly measures the number of runs a player has created by batting better with runners in scoring position. It accounts for BA/RISP and HR's with runners on. It also scores players negative runs for failing to score runners. I'm not saying it's an end all stat, just another way of looking at how players come through in key moments. Anyway, without breaking the team down pound for pound, the Cards as a team have scored a total of 6.4 clutch runs. Pujols has scored 10.7 of them. Take him out of the equation and the Cardinals as a team are a -4.3 runs clutch. Yeesh. It should be noted that most players don't repeat their clutch stats from one season to the next. (See, Taguchi, So and Eckstein, David.) But you'd like to see more big hits when they are needed, as that's something that's been lacking with this team. Oddly enough, one Cardinal player you could argue as being a consistent "clutch" hitter is Juan Encarnacion. In 04, he created 5.3 clutch runs, in 05: 8.6. So far in 06, 4.7. Maybe LaRussa wasn't so crazy about pinch-hitting Juan for Duncan a few weeks ago in Chicago afterall......

I'd be amiss if I didn't make mention of Weaver's solid outing last night. I wasn't able to watch all the game, but from what I was able to watch, he was relying on his fastball a lot more, very nice to see. I've always wondered why Weaver tries to fool around with so many different pitches when he already seems to have command of a pretty lively fastball.

Speaking of good fastballs, it'll be interesting to see Reyes's approach today. Reyes was the PCL player of the week last week, winning both games he started. In those starts he pitched 13 innings, allowed no runs, 9 hits, 3 walks and struck out 17. Says Reyes, "I was using the fastball like I used to. I was throwing the fastball and working it off all of my other pitches, as opposed to throwing more offspeed pitches. I just want to start going deeper into games and getting back to my old ways of using my fastball I just want to pitch and not try to go out there and worry about location as much. I just want to have fun pitching."  Like he used to. There you have it Dunc. There you have it Tony. He doesn't need to screw with this other stuff. Let him throw fastballs. Let him mix in his change-up. As long has he's throwing strikes, screw the 2 seamer, screw the cutter. Let the kid do his thing. Let him have fun for cryin' out loud. Baseball is supposed to be fun.

Down on the farm, Blake Hawksworth continues to re-assert his prospect status, going 7 innings allowing 2 runs on 8 hits and a walk, striking out 8. But the real story of the Springfield game is the team scored 17 runs. My homeboy Nick Stavinoha has now raised his BA to .295 after having a terrible start to his season. He went 3 for 5 with a double and a walk. Mitch Boggs struck out 8 for Palm Beach, allowing 3 runs on 8 hits and a walk over 7 innings.

So says the rev, "go Cards." Enjoy your Sunday.

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first post...
it was actually 29 left on base...

by lopey986 on Sep 3, 2006 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

mlb.com
says 28
aka "the Rev"

by erik on Sep 3, 2006 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

erik nice post
and thanks again for joining VEB as a regular contributor --- i'm psyched you'll be posting ev'y Sunday.

i appreciate your invoking HT's "clutch" stat --- i never have paid much attn to it, but it's a nice little gadget-stat and does seem to capture things that the macro stats might miss. i'd like to see team-level "clutch" stats. my sense is that the cards, on the whole, are about average in that department --- ie, they neither waste nor capitalize upon an inordinately high pct of their opportunities --- but i'd like to see some numbers to back up that impression.

re the LOB thing, toris34 explained it nicely below. i'm partial to the team-LOB stat --- ie, you can only strand a runner once, so the cards' total for last night would be 12 LOB.

either way you look at it, an awful waste last night.

by lboros on Sep 3, 2006 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Erik
welcome and it is a nice post.  Thank you for taking charge.  It is very much appreciated... but I am getting sick and tired of all of these "so called" stats.  You put people on base, you knock them in.  I don't care if it is a Saturday day game where the temperature was below 75 degrees and the wind was blowing in from right and it was a left hander who always wins day games on a Saturday and if Speizio trimmed his soul patch 3 fricking short hairs less on that day than he did the Saturday before there's probably a 54% chance he won't be able to hit a pitcher who pitched in the fricking Ivy League... yadda, yadda, yadda... This is the problem with all of this Fantasy League crap. Everybody thinks they are LaRussa and Duncan now with their bogus computer stats.  Babe Ruth would choke on his hot dog if he knew about this crap. As Shannon always puts it... Abner Doubleday shows up right on time usually. It is basically a very pure and perfect yet simple game, played 90 feet at a time.  If the pitcher is better than the batter he wins and vice-versa.
Sorry for going on that tangent but if you continually go back to the "numbers", Albert Pujols would never have ruined Brad Lidge's confidence and Kirk Gibson would never have walked out of the tunnel to send Dennis Eckersley to the showers.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:09 AM EDT reply actions  

And what part
of the west coast are you from?

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you ask this because of an earlier post
or am I missing something?  Yes, I live in LA, the valley, but grew up in Moberly, MO. and am a Mizzou alum and above all a DIE HARD Cardinal fan.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, no
You're not missing anything. Yes from an earlier post. I'm always just curious about people that moved out here. I'm from St.Louis. I'm in Encino.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very close to me.
Valley Village.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well
We should watch some games together! I've got MLB Extra Innings. That's how I keep up--along with the internet.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's my ticket also
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of die hard fans
Or in my case, crazy die hard fans--I've got 2 seats from the old Busch Stadium in my garage & I got my mom a brick paver at the new stadium. She's 83 & turned me on to baseball.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where the hell do you get Busch beer out here?
I mean real Busch, not Natural.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got the paver myself
Mine is right below Stan the Man's ass.  Bought the Stadium seats and gave them to my good friend Billy Bob.  He's putting them into his landscape.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right On!
On the seats. You can find Busch cans from time to time in different markets & gas stations & liquor stores. I have a liquor store that special orders Busch bottles for me. It's cheap too! Whoohoo!

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool
That was the beer of my youth.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...
...I hate those stats, you know..the ones based on facts and proven theories.  Curse you statistics!

I'm glad baseball isn't one of the most reliant sports on these things called statistics.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Hardcore
you are an astute contributor but don't you think some of these stats start sounding like political polls?  You can spin them anyway you want.  I guarantee that someone out there would be able to make a case that Jason Marquis is one of the best pitchers in the NL because of his Wins column but would you go for that?
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if you want the stat that matters
Is Erik correct that the Birds had 28 LOB?  My God, take every other stat on earth and throw it out the window if that is true.  That is just plain the VooDoo That You Do So Well!
Hardcore, you are a great and knowledgeable fan and I have great respect for you but don't come after me about stats.  Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  Sometimes Tom Lawless hits a game winning home run... That is why Baseball is great.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess....
...but this team is what it is and the stats in general back it up.  They may play over their heads at times, but the talent assembly of the position players offensively is average at best.

What makes the offense look like a steaming pile of you know what right now is that Pujols isn't hitting the ball.  Not because he HAS to drive in runner when runners are in scoring postion, but because you almost expect him to 90% of the time.  When Aaron Miles or Speizo grounds out routinely to end a scoring opportunity, it's par for the course, when Pujols does it...we're screwed.  With him hitting .250 with Runners in Scoring Position over the last month and two days, it puts extra pressure on the other offensive 3 on this team (Rolen, Duncan, Juan).  

Think where we'd be right now over the last week and a half if not for Juan and Sno Cone.  Scary thought.

If Pujols really isn't this healthy that it's brought on one of the worst slumps in his career, he either needs to rest that elbow or move to the #2 spot.  Moving him to the # 2 spot will a)get him on base (walks in front of Duncan and Rolen b)get him more at-bats per game (slump breaker) c)gives Rolen more pitches to hit with Duncan batting 4th and Rolen in the 3 spot.

That is by all means not a permanant suggestion, as Pujols is our #3 hitter for the next 6 years at least.  Sometimes, when a player is in a funk, you have to shake things up.  Kinda like him chewing gum the other night and getting his seemingly only hits of the homestand.

We go nowhere without the Big Guy hitting.  

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just one point
I don't think that Miles has been grounding out so routinely as of late. I think he has been doing a good job in the leadoff position and at shortstop.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another point
I think Pujols is really struggling at this point. Statistics be damned, he has not been producing in the clutch.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I'm saying, Hardcore
is that Albert has "MVP" numbers, but those of us that watch him day in & day out know that he isn't right, not really producing as his numbers suggest.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

See Hardcore?
I knew you would not disappoint.  You are absolutely right and I had not even thought of that idea of hitting him 2nd.  A shake up is a good thing.  You and I have been the 2 proponents that have said he is injured worse than we know.  BUT I think he can still play if the pressure of being the HERO might be off of him.  he can just try to single them to death and I'll bet he would.
Also, Rolen did seem to like hitting 3rd when AP was down.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I better not say because I might go against
all of the "STATS".  Then I will be eaten alive.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shit, I said too much!
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

No
It seems good so far.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check your e-mail
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the tail end
of the lineup that is weak this year. In the last two years it seems that we used to have a lot of clutch hits at the end of the order. Of course, I'm sure there are stats that would prove me wrong!

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely not...
... in years past we had Reggie or Grudz hitting in the 7 spot, and Yadi in the 8-hole. Yadi's #s this year are WAY down from the last two years, and Miles/Luna/Belliard simply do not provide the same kind of production that Sanders/ Grudz did. you're absolutely right about that. there have been a lot less "stolen" runs from the bottom of the order this year.

by kindred on Sep 3, 2006 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Noone who likes statistics
would make that argument.  Wins are an old-timey stat used by the seamheads waaaaaaay more than anyone else.  People who look closely at numbers realize that individual pitcher wins are one of the flukiest, most team-dependent of all statistics.  It's why individual pitcher wins fluctuate so wildly from one year to the next, it's why Marquis can get the win two nights ago, and Weaver not get it last night.

I love reading about hustle and drive and mechanics and the personal aspect of the sport--it's what makes it fun, interesting and not a goddamn computer simulation, but statistical analysis has a very important place in a sport with this damn many games.

And Albert in this "slump" is still beter than 98% of all baseball players.  That's all anyone is saying.  Not to mention that having the first half of this season, where he was out to break every single-season offensive record, to compare with is hardly fair--there is a reason why the RBI record is seventy years old.  And yes, he should be getting more rest, and yes, he might have gotten brought back too fast.  But complaining about his production right now is kind of silly in my mind.

by Valatan on Sep 3, 2006 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Statistics
I should preface this by saying I'm an applied mathematics major (a lot of stats classes) currently studying to be an actuary.

Anyway, the PURPOSE of statistics is to better understand the past, and attempt to -forecast- the future (Nostradamus style) to make better decisions.

IF I do A, then C will happen with likelihood p and D will happen with likelihood (1-p). IF I do B instead, then C will happen with likelihood q, and D will happen with likelihood (1-q). We want C to happen, and if p > q, then we do C. Very simple idea.

Now, the problem with baseball statistics, is we have absolutely no clue about causation, independence, etc., when it comes to something like baseball. In reality, it's very difficult to look at Brad Lidge throwing a slider to Albert Pujols and saying 'Albert will hit a homerun with probability 10%', because he either A) hits a homerun, or B) doesn't hit a homerun.

The same thing happens in insurance: you are either going to die this year, or you won't, but based on a HUGE amount of past data, we've developed what we believe is an accurate view of the past, by which we can predict the future, and price insurance. Likewise, in baseball, if you make certain assumptions of independence and the probability distributions of certain things (BABIP, etc.), then you can -attempt- to forecast the future behavior of players. To do so on a micro basis (pitch by pitch or at bat by at bat) is ludicrous, but on the macro basis, you'll be right more than wrong.

Now, some organizations of statheads (BP, etc.) are attempting to really 'solve' the randomness inherent in baseball, to varying degrees (check out Pecota predictions, etc.), but I'll tend to agree: stats that don't help predict the future are useless.

by SirVLCIV on Sep 3, 2006 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

stats are like any other
form of information --- they can clarify or they can distort, depending upon how they are used (or abused). if they're used with care, they can enhance one's understanding of the game and make it more enjoyable to watch.

SirVLCIV's distinction is the key --- the stats don't attempt to predict the future on a game-by-game, at-bat-by-at-bat basis. and it would be terrible if the stats could do that --- because who would watch if the games always went according to form?

on the other hand --- without stats to help us create our storylines, would a matchup betw pujols-lidge be as compelling?

by lboros on Sep 3, 2006 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of partial
to the old line, "Lies, damn lies, & statistics."

Obviously, I've made known my acceptance of the new breed of baseball statistics. They are a language unto themselves and can tell the story of a game, a player, a season. But they can be massaged any number of ways to tell you exactly what you want to hear.

by Solanus on Sep 4, 2006 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I agree with you both
I'm kind of a gut person, more than statistics & match ups. I'm always reading this blog, but don't comment too often. I usually agree with you two.

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 4:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, Hardcore seems to have gone
and I don't blame you.  It is late.  But always fun to talk with you.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 5:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Did you send
email to skoobalou? Try scullbud@aol

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

rev,...
loved your blog and am glad you're here, but the 28 LOB is extremely misleading. There's no need for hyperbole. The team stat of 12 LOB is enough to prove your point. Just one example, how do you say Weaver and Spiezio left men on base when they successfully sacrificed?

by Ignatius J Reilly on Sep 3, 2006 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

LOB
The differences of the LOB's mentioned are due to how they are tracked.  Certain box scores will total the # lob by each player while offially it's simply the # standing their at the end of the inning.  Suppose we load the basis w/ nobody out and then the next 3 guys strike out, in the one stat, that would be 9 lob (3+3+3) whereas officially it would be 3.  Hopefully this is not elementary to all of you, if so I apologize.  Great game by Weaver, Let's go ARey.

by toris34 on Sep 3, 2006 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

okay, okay
i'm just gonna fix it to read 12 in the story. thnx everyone for the input, shoulda read that way. i guess you can see it as on an individual and as a team level, the team dismally failed to bring a run home with ample oppurtunity.

sorry everyone. :) enjoy the game!

aka "the Rev"

by erik on Sep 3, 2006 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quick Comment
So I was at new Busch for the first time last night (I'm from Chicagoland) and I happened to notice that we share the name of the nachos stand. For that, I am very proud. Not to mention, the "El Birdos Nachos" weren't too shabby.

On the other hand, the game was pretty unfortunate. It's pretty rough when you have guys on base and everything that can go wrong, does.

by aet15 on Sep 3, 2006 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hooray, Reyes!
I'm too hungover to actually go to the game today. Stupid weddings. Anyway, here's hoping Reyes channels his inner-Carp and mows these bums down.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2006 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Reyes and Stats
I'm excited to see Reyes pitch today.  I hope he's stands up to both the need and the hoopla.

On the stats thing, it seems to me that it's very true what Iboros said about their ability to either clarify or distort.  1) The more specific a stat is the less reliable it is because it is inherently based on fewer incidences.  2) You also have to remember that each time you introduce a new stat you are introducing a scale with it also.  You have to have some sort of understanding as to the overall picture or "feel" of that stat.  Just like map projections, a stat will tend to make certain facts clearer and other facts obscured or distorted.  So you have to learn a sense for how any given stat represents reality which takes time sometimes. 3) How the stat is constructed is quite important to the meaning of the stat.  That's why there are multiple stats claiming to represent offensive production in different ways.  Again, each time you introduce a new one you have to realize it will project a different picture.

So for that reason there seems to be two strategies to using stats. 1)You can learn to use old stats better.  2) You can create new stats.  Neither of these can be used in exlusion to the other.  You have to balance them.

by 1985kid on Sep 3, 2006 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The five year statute of....
...limitations is about to kick in. More and more baseball fans across the country are getting tired of this. Not to get political, just reporting.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Sep 3, 2006 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're probably right
but I still think it's a better song than the Star Spangled Banner. Just sounds better.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2006 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineups
Pittsburgh
C. Duffy cf
J. Bautista 3b  
F. Sanchez ss  
X. Nady rf  
J. Bay lf  
R. Paulino c  
R. Doumit 1b  
J. Castillo 2b  
I. Snell p

St. Louis
A. Miles ss  
C. Duncan lf  
A. Pujols 1b  
S. Rolen 3b  
J. Encarnacion cf
P. Wilson rf  
R. Belliard 2b
Y. Molina c
A. Reyes p

Anyone know anything about this Reyes kid we've got pitching today?  Seems they called him up from Memphis for September Call-Ups.  Wonder what kind of stuff he's got.  Hope he has a good 2-seamer.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

its good to see reyes throwing 92
"jizzy izzy makes my dizzy cuz he keeps the basepaths buzy"

by jcarro100 on Sep 3, 2006 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like
the kid gloves are off reyes...or he's being very rebellious..
aka "the Rev"

by erik on Sep 3, 2006 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Reyes isn't listening to anyone
at this point or he simply can't hit his spots yet.  He has crossed Yadi up a few times now, throwing fastballs in the middle of the plate (still blowing it by them).

Hey, I'll take a kid striking people out but I'd like it if he'd hit his spots a little better.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm gonna be splitting my attention
between the game and Agassi's tennis match. The old man's stayin' alive even though he appears to be in extremem pain. I hope he can pull out one more win in his last tournament.

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully
Tony and Dunc were paying attention.

by Big Red on Sep 3, 2006 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

lots of strikes...
UPSTAIRS for the kid in that inning...hmm..

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...
How bout that for a good start.  I'm watching via gameday... how does Reyes look?  Is he throwing harder than usual?

by stltrav09 on Sep 3, 2006 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

so far.....
so good....low 90's on the fastball...using the change well too.

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan
Looked terrible on that strikeout...

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh...
...he did work the count from 0-2 to 3-2.  Yeah, he looked like Preston Wilson on strike 3, but he wasn't just up there hacking.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

channel 11
just fritzed out... anybody else having problems?

by mattybobo on Sep 3, 2006 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

i got
lethal weapon 3....Argh.
aka "the Rev"

by erik on Sep 3, 2006 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got the Pittsburgh feed out here in LA
Talk about two BORING announcers.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing's showing on my TV either
looks like i would've missed the HR anyway.

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, i saw the homerun, then right after it was a
black screen with the "technical difficulties" page, etc. etc.

by mattybobo on Sep 3, 2006 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

well
at least you're not stuck with mel gibson.. :)
aka "the Rev"

by erik on Sep 3, 2006 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take
exception to that term.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2006 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay....
rolen walks...lets pile up a few runs here ...

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

crap
I watched Agassi's last points (he lost), and missed Albert's 40th HR.  Oh well. I'm liking this game so far!

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

The fact that.
Aggasi even PLAYED that match today...shows you what this guy is made of....Tennis is going to miss that guy...

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a dream that Pujols hit HRs
in 4 consecutive ABs today cutting into Howard's lead (50 - 43) and reclaiming that MVP frontrunner status.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

#2
Here's to you, Miss Cleo...

by heart cards on Sep 3, 2006 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

if only albert hit that last night
"jizzy izzy makes my dizzy cuz he keeps the basepaths buzy"

by jcarro100 on Sep 3, 2006 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

umm......
" I'm not here to talk about the past....."..

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

should still be a no hitter
"jizzy izzy makes my dizzy cuz he keeps the basepaths buzy"

by jcarro100 on Sep 3, 2006 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

i bet he throws a 1hitter
"jizzy izzy makes my dizzy cuz he keeps the basepaths buzy"

by jcarro100 on Sep 3, 2006 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

....sure.....
but don't got to Vegas any time soon okay?..

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reyes is looking good
Phil Cuzzi? Booooooooo!!!
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2006 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

he's been
taking his time, looks like he and yadi aren't in agreement at times. interesting.
aka "the Rev"

by erik on Sep 3, 2006 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

OH Preston
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Snell looks tough
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

that outside slider, or sinker
must be a mother to see because everyone is swinging at it and missing.

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow
We're swinging at junk!

by busch bird on Sep 3, 2006 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Scouting report
Wilson and Belliard.  Throw them curve balls.  They can't hit them.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Wonder if YaDI will K
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Cy Young Snell...
just struck out the side...

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Snell and Reyes playing a game
"Anything you can do I can do better..."

by TICY on Sep 3, 2006 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

At least Yadi got Reyes out of the way
for the next inning.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

man these Pitt announcers ....
are driving me crazy..."Lets go to our Gieko quote of the day"...ahhh!!!!!

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

They suck!
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

nobody tell Reyes...
... that this ain't the ChiSox. Kid is dealing today.

by kindred on Sep 3, 2006 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Got Duffy twice now........
remember how that guy killed us?
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Duffy
Had NO shot that last at bat. Reyes had him dumbfounded.

by TICY on Sep 3, 2006 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

DUDE...
Your dream is coming closer!!!

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

goddamn!
slump? what slump? i got yer slump right here, pal.

by kindred on Sep 3, 2006 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

K's
Has anyone else noticed that there have been 11 total K's and it's only the top of the fourth . . .

by aet15 on Sep 3, 2006 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

41 thank you
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Hardcore Legend
is a prophet.

Maybe he used his statistical prowess to predict the multi-HR game, huh? :)

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the dreamland stat
is one I'm feeling good about today.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard hit #51...
...he seemingly doesn't want to give up any ground.

To El Hombre!  Horray Multi-HR games!

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

He's putting on a show
on Downs Syndrome day at the ballpark.

Unreal.

Cheers

by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2006 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

im calling it
this is a six run inning
"jizzy izzy makes my dizzy cuz he keeps the basepaths buzy"

by jcarro100 on Sep 3, 2006 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

close.....
but noooootttt...quite..

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard has two more HRs...
... already today. and they're only in the 6th inning of the first leg of a double-dip.

by kindred on Sep 3, 2006 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

REALLY?....
wow.....he's making a good run for MVP I'll give him that!

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Son of a B! #3 for 52.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Hardcore...
are you sure it wasn't Howard in your dream?...

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah
They've gotta make the playoffs if he wants that.

by aet15 on Sep 3, 2006 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone that is watching the game...
...I can't believe I'm going to say this, but Al Hrbosky was right.  Albert Pujols was struggling because he was picking his foot up and moving it about 6 to 8 inches forward, those walking out into the pitch.  Both of those swings today, he's picked his foot up and put it right back down.  The first one, he just twisted his toe.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

also......
Albert owns this guy...and it's a day game..

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now THAT ...
was a big K!...nice going kid!

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah great idea!
Albert should DEFINITELY take a week off...

by stltrav09 on Sep 3, 2006 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...
cause we haven't seen flashes like this before, only to see him go 3 for 16 afterwards.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2006 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's human
Just because he's Albert Pujols, doesnt mean he can't go 3-16.

by stltrav09 on Sep 3, 2006 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if you look at the STATS....................
Everything points to a probability that he might need to rest. Ha, ha.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go sit down Bay
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a damned good job by Reyes
to get out of that unscathed and to get the K on Bay.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

What up wit Belli?
Yo dog....you can't hit the curve to save your life!!

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Yikes......he better go turn some double plays..
cuz he ain't hittin this cat
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi Pujols
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on Miles
Pick him up!
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

another....
freaking weak ass ground out....sigh.....

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking...
... that Albert needs to share the secret of how to hit this kid with the rest of the team, but then I realized, how useful would it be for him to say, "Ees simple, mang, just be a beisball god."

by punditmoi on Sep 3, 2006 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Not to damn deep...
if he keeps giving up 0-2 doubles....

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

63
after the double

by TICY on Sep 3, 2006 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

64 (48/18)
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That changeup of his is wicked
when he has it going.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Loved the ...
Roll over his back on the tag too...

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

However, my heart went to my throat
because the shoulder was the first thing that came to mind.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

HARDCORE!!! DUDE!!!!
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

AHHHHH!!!!!!!
I really can't believe it.

I need to start dreaming more.

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Man Pujols sucks
It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 3, 2006 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert Pujols
Is blowing my fucking mind.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Sep 3, 2006 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

holy cow.
holy cow.  sweet god.

by martin on Sep 3, 2006 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Didnt Snell get the scouting report?
You're supposed to throw the ball outside to Pujols.  

And the worst thing is despite all this, Howard has matched Pujols today.

by TICY on Sep 3, 2006 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan Howard just singled
looks like there's some room to catch up a little bit after all.

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

AP is 4 for 6
against Snell.

All four are homers.

He's the long lost brother of Odalis Perez

The cat is fine, thank you.

by Intheway on Sep 3, 2006 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

So
Are they showing Howard's stats at Busch today or something? Pujols seems pretty motivated to keep pace.

by aet15 on Sep 3, 2006 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

pujols
100 runs again another successful 100-30-100-.300 year.  I'll be heartbroken when the streak ends.

by bretsyboo on Sep 3, 2006 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

pujols homers...
rolen walks.

same old same old

by bretsyboo on Sep 3, 2006 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Hardcore Legend,
Tell me where I need to send your fresh supply of Sominex.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I have quite a mancrush
on this fella called Pujols.

Going to the games tomorrow and Tuesday in DC...hoping for a repeat performance!

by stlmapman on Sep 3, 2006 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

PLEASE tell me Pujols..
... got a standing O from the crowd.  That's one thing the fans havent done as often this year.

by stltrav09 on Sep 3, 2006 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Question?
do you think # 5 gets a day off in DC?

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He may need one because
he's been running laps all day today.
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardcore
Two pieces of advice...
  1. Start keeping a dream journal.
  2. Find yourself a bookie.

by punditmoi on Sep 3, 2006 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Close to 200 posts
anyone know how to put up an overflow thread?

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Now THAT was a Gold Glove play
by Rolen.  Incredible!!
Broglio for Brock!!!

by allenbrent on Sep 3, 2006 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn....
the great part of that play?...how fast he got it from his glove to his hand to 1st...he was out by 10 feet...and that guy can fly!!

by Timbo02 on Sep 3, 2006 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Facial Hair
I remember a couple of weeks ago, Pujols had a monster day and he had just shaved his goatee. His face is bald again today. Hmm....

oh, and that's' 9 Ks.

by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2006 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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