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crap. 7 in a row.

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FUCK!
"I grew up in Oklahoma, and once you start runnin' out there there ain't nothin' to stop you" - Johnny Leonard Roosevelt "Pepper" Martin

by iron duke75 on Aug 3, 2006 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, for whatever reason
there's a lot of cursing going on in the blog lately.

by sdrone on Aug 3, 2006 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude
this is 2003 all over again....holding out hope for a 6 run 9th....we ahevn't had one of those big time comebacks this year
Baseball Heaven??? They tore that down last year

by MississippiCardMan on Aug 3, 2006 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and apparently
i'm too drunk to type
Baseball Heaven??? They tore that down last year

by MississippiCardMan on Aug 3, 2006 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tomorrow
Do you think we have some new guys on the roster come tomorrow at game time?...... thoughts.....

by stlcardi70 on Aug 3, 2006 11:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no moves
same pile of shit will be run out there tomorrow
Baseball Heaven??? They tore that down last year

by MississippiCardMan on Aug 3, 2006 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe
New guys being......some released/sent down?

by stlcardi70 on Aug 3, 2006 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Errors vs. Hits
Game one, game three. Combined 5 errors, 5 hits..

by Sonicblast12 on Aug 3, 2006 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey!
we held 'em to 8!  They had that many after 6 innings last night!  That's a 50% improvement, people!

The bad news is we have to play the Cubs again.  Somehow losing is just worse when they beat us!

by chuckb on Aug 3, 2006 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im ready
to see what tankersley has
and even brad thompson
anyone know how the kid is fairing
i cant believe marquis is making more than ill make in 10 years for this crap

i want to see someone smash a water cooler
i paid 90 bucks apiece tonight for tickets for my cousin and his girl for their birthday
and this is what i get for 200.00
it has got to improve

is that what they look like? psychos? let me tell you something...pyschos dont explode whhen sunlight hits them, no matter how crazy they are

by benstl on Aug 3, 2006 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same here
Grandfather's birthday, took him to Bank of America Club for the occasion.  Buffet good.  Baseball bad.  Very bad.

I stayed to the end, though.  I'm getting tired of this bullcrap.  In hte last four games I've been to, the Cards have been outscored 7-0 (by Eric f***ing Milton!), 7-3, 16-8, and 8-1.

Carp's going tomorrow.  It'll be better, won't it?  It has to be, doesn't it?

by whopperman on Aug 4, 2006 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Blows
The starting pitching while not great was decent tonight. It was once again the bullpen and a lack of run support

by cards19 on Aug 3, 2006 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah
A 6.0 ERA for the starter isn't ok.

Of cousre, a 12.00 ERA for the pen......

by sdrone on Aug 3, 2006 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on
At least it wasn't 5 through 5.

by cards19 on Aug 3, 2006 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh...
He gave up what, 16 runners in 6 innings?  Spin it however you want, that's absolutely terrible.

by whopperman on Aug 4, 2006 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ever the optimist
carp goes tomorrow!  hopefully that means that we can have a 1 game winning streak.

by chuckb on Aug 3, 2006 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its against the Cubs
I'm considering suffering through the Street Rod Nationals with my car-nut brothers and dad just so I can be sure I don't see any of the games.
R.I.P. Chris Collins

by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Aug 3, 2006 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never mind
Thats next weekend.
R.I.P. Chris Collins

by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Aug 3, 2006 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's hoping
I'll jump on that tired-of-listening-to-myself-whine bandwagon.

by effin fisk on Aug 3, 2006 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts?
Damn, that was annoying. How about we find the rope to stop this tumble, quickly escalating into an all out free fall?

by Squeaky on Aug 3, 2006 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here comes the brewers
maybe we can win the series and then get swept by cincy. How fun would that be.

by cards19 on Aug 3, 2006 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man
Man where is the Dodgers and whole NL west when you need them>?

by DimitroffVodka on Aug 3, 2006 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers?????
If they were only in the central.

by cards19 on Aug 3, 2006 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw a lot of good things tonight
namely Cole Hamels.

by ryanisforever on Aug 3, 2006 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha.
Does anyone ever read the headlines on the Cardinals website? They make everything sound so much better than they are.

by aet15 on Aug 3, 2006 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tommorrow
im going to see A's and M's for the second time this year, and Zito again. last time he went against moyer and one hit the m's the one hit was almost caught by the CF. Tommorrow its zito and washburn.

by punchinjudy on Aug 3, 2006 11:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Idiot
If the cardinals don't make the playoffs this season or get beat in the divisional series bill dewitt will think it was because he spent to much on payroll and decide the best way to win would be to cut back.

by cards19 on Aug 3, 2006 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And so
the Cardinals have come full circle.

Go 16 games over .500, lose eight straight games.

Go 16 games over .500, lose seven straight games.

And whodathunkit...it all started with a win over Colorado and then a trip to Chicago.

by ryanisforever on Aug 3, 2006 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I HATE THE DAMN CUBS
I love it when we play the colorado and l.a. No matter what we win against them but can't beat the Cubs and Phillies because they are are to good? Something is wrong here

by cards19 on Aug 3, 2006 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a sinking ship....
...I just like saying that.  I don't know why, it just rolls off the tongue.

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2006 12:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony
Does his face look like its decaying?  Ewwwwwww.  Also he looks like he is either A. about to sneeze or B. wiping his nose after crying about Jeff Weaver sucking.
"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Aug 4, 2006 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd love for
a minute for these guys to remember they are getting paid big bucks to play a game...it's not fun to watch a bunch of guys who don't enjoy their work. i know it's a biz, but c'mon fellas. lighten up a little. losing sucks and all, but geez.

by erik on Aug 4, 2006 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that is a legit complaint...
...no matter what 'game' you are playing, seemingly having no shot to win night in and night out gets old real quick.

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2006 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what's amazing
Somehow, still 3.5 game up. I feel like we're in the NL West all of a sudden.

by aet15 on Aug 4, 2006 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bingo!
The NL sucks pretty much outside of the Mets, and even they have rotation issues. I feel sorry for the poor club that makes it to the World Series that has to face the Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Yankees, Red Sox..etc..

by erik on Aug 4, 2006 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bouncing Back
Allways good to bounce back the dy after a flogging with a 2 Hitter.  Too bad that it was us that only got 2 hits, and made 3 errors to boot.

But we're still in 1st Place and Busch III is still sold out.  The majic number may now be down to 29 more drubbings before making the play-offs.

Caught the last at bat for the reds on mlb.tv.  2nd & 3rd in the 9th, but couldn't score, too bad.

Over to the Angels and got to watch the younger weaver.  Interesting to see the difference from Jeff, until he almost came un-glued by a botched corner field play nearly become an inside the parker.  Runs score and he looks wiped.  But then the Halos get one right back.  This is baseball, like we haven't seen around here in over a week.

Tomorrow might be better.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Aug 4, 2006 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NL
The NL is the biggest joke. I think this is the worst it has been in my life time. We are absoutely horrible but are in first place and have the 2nd best record in the league.

Here is a fun little fact for us now

RS:524   
RA:523

by DimitroffVodka on Aug 4, 2006 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well
If the Cardinals can hold teams to an average of two runs per game from here on out, they will only have allowed 633 runs, which would fall one short of last season's mark.

Think they're up to it?

Also, they are probably going to score less than 800 runs this season. You'd have to turn the Wayback Machine to 1997 to find the last time a Cardinal team did that.

Of course, scoring 800 doesn't mean that you can't win anything. The White Sox scored 750 runs last year. It'd be nice if the Cardinals had pitching though.

by ryanisforever on Aug 4, 2006 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Merd!
C'est 2003 encore!

by Zubin on Aug 4, 2006 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

doug davis
pujols, edmonds, juan hit him well.  amazingly, edmonds has a higher BA than OBP vs. davis...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=4138&teamId=24&sort=OPS

carp pitches well against the brewers.

by sjoshi on Aug 4, 2006 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow
Every edmonds hit against him has been for extra bases.

I'm not getting the BA>OBP thing though...  how?

by SleepyCA on Aug 4, 2006 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OBP < AVG
If he has no walks/HBP, but has driven in a run on a sacrifice fly, this will push his OBP to less than his batting average.

by Solanus on Aug 4, 2006 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$10 and my left nut...
the Reds sweep us as well.  It's about being comfortable, it's about being hungry.  It's about being confident.

3 aspects this team does not have right now.  And I'll even take it further...

Pujols has done NOTHIMG to help this team besides 1 game POST break in Colorado.  That's not what you get from a MVP player.

by Pujols for MVP on Aug 4, 2006 12:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I want him gone
He is a $100 million bust.

Listen, I know you're angry, but be realistic--WHO has helped this team during the break? They are ALL to blame. Do you think Pujols has the ability to go 4-for-4 with home runs every time he comes up? Add to that, there's no way he is 100% right now, but he's out there because he feels that he gives the team a chance to win.  Why are you singling HIM out? Why not Edmonds? Rolen? Juan'cion? Looper? Carpenter? Marquis? Weaver? Reyes?

EVERY player, all 25 of 'em, have failed. Have you become so spoiled by Pujols that if he doesn't perform at a God-like rate, he is to be tossed aside like garbage? I'm SO tired of reading you complain about him everyday. WE GET THE POINT. You might be getting tired of him, but there are still fans that appreciate what he is doing, and know that his slump is killing him worse than us.

And get your facts right, chief...he has hit two game-winning homers in the second half. Remember the walk-off? Oh, and he gave the team a fighting chance to win on Saturday with a leadoff single against Dumpster, he tied the game against LA with a home run that the Cardinals would go on to win, and he was 4-for-5 with three RBI's in the 11-3 win on July 16.

by ryanisforever on Aug 4, 2006 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually
The Reds are in a huge slump too. I wouldn't doubt if their fans are saying the same.

by aet15 on Aug 4, 2006 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comment
Here is a couple comments I got off Bernies Board

"Fans don't care and I really don't expect them to, but since you asked, Pujols is being a jerk.... hostile to everyone. It doesn't matter to me in terms of what I write; I don't care if anyone is pleasant or not. But it's too bad he's back to being surly.

--B"

"Yeah, I can be surly....

But there is a difference.

I don't walk around proclaiming I'm a man of God, a man of Christ -- and then treat people like dirt. If you're a man of God, a man of Christ -- well, once you publicly stake out that turf, you'd better walk the walk.

--B"

"Sore elbow, bad mood, uncomfortable form, looking at video all the time, overanalyzing things, not happy, not healthy.

--B"

by DimitroffVodka on Aug 4, 2006 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really classy of Bernie...
...to use vague references to attack a guy.

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2006 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tactless comments
are those for real? even the happiest people i know have tough times in their professional and personal lives. What would Pujols be doing for him to write those things? That's shocking.

and no, pujols isn't a flop, and being the NL's most valuable player last year and the first hal of this year doesn't require him to be the savior for a team full of holes for as long as he plays.

it sucks that he's surly and it sucks that he hasn't hit a home run in a few games, but geez. how can someone with the name "Pujols 4 MVP" be the guy's biggest detractor?

by effin fisk on Aug 4, 2006 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Know
You have no clue what the real Pujols is like. Bernie is the closest thing most of us have to just having an idea about the clubhouse scene.

I think it helps give an idea to show that Pujols is  frustrated too about the team. I think it shows the team is probably rather tense and just needs a win.

I am getting worried about this team because losing is a disease that can only be cured by winning. Losing will affect all parts of your game. You over anaylze things and try to hard.

by DimitroffVodka on Aug 4, 2006 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whether they are true or not...
...they are flippant comments.  While Bernie was not putting anything into a publication, he uses the post-dispatch's online forums.  Throwing something like that out there is irresponsible.  

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2006 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not
I'm not sure why you'd even use the word "irresponsible."

by sdrone on Aug 4, 2006 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, it is
I work for a publication with a website, and if i used our blog to make personal comments about the people quoted in our print edition, I'd get a HUGE lecture about it from the boss.

It is irresponsible. It's one thing to make observations about players being frustrated. It's quite another to make personal judgements in an extremely open forum.

by effin fisk on Aug 4, 2006 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is irresponsible because the exchange went....
...like this:

"Vague discription about a players mood"

"Diatribe of personal opinion about the players character"

As a reporter, which is what Bernie is and is the reason he was privy to such information, if you are going to offer OP-ED, you seemingly can't do it based on something the readership have NO insight into.  You are their portal into the situation and you've tainted their views by plastering yours all over it.

It is either irresponsible or poor journalism.  Maybe he should just stick to taking stuff from lboros and printing it.

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 4, 2006 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bernie is
a fat fuck.
Don't give up. Don't ever give up. After all, GOD is a Cardinal Fan too.

by gdm426 on Aug 4, 2006 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry for the language
I probably shouldnt have cursed. seeing how I too share the Great Pujols believes. But that just pisses me off. Bernie has no right in the world to rip Pujols on his believes. thats low and should be off limits. it just shows that Albert is a REAL HUMAN with REAL HUMAN feelings. he is mad has hell and he isnt going to take loosing anymore. good for him. bad for Bernie to try and drag him down because he wouldnt give him a interview.

again, sorry for the language. I know better.

but I too am mad as hell and I dont want to watch this loosing anymore. this team is better than this. its just really depressing watching this team loose to teams with far far inferior talent. i consider myself a die hard cadinal fan. but even i couldnt watch the last inning. thing about living in ohio is, no one cares about baseball. not even reds fans. everyone out here is football fans. the local tv news only cover osu football, hockey, and nfl football in cincy and cleveland. so i cant talk about our beloved cardinals to anyone, because no body cares. i am really gald i found this site. i hate living here. but i am glad i dont have to witness this team loose in person paing out the rear for season tickets for a team that is .500 at best. its bad enough i plopped down $150 for ExtraInnings. we need help. big time.

Don't give up. Don't ever give up. After all, GOD is a Cardinal Fan too.

by gdm426 on Aug 4, 2006 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just because
Pujols is a christian doesn't make him Sister Theresa or even Mike Matheny for that matter. and it doesn't give pujols an excuse, but just because bernie isn't a christian doesn't give him a free pass to be a jerk, either.

i like bernie at times, but he says a lot of stupid things

by erik on Aug 4, 2006 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice
Being a Christian doesn't mean you're not allowed to get upset or be in a bad mood.  I'm sure that if Pujols was being jovial in the clubhouse, Bernie would rip him for that, too.

by Robb on Aug 4, 2006 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one thing
that makes me wonder about this is that a while back, maybe the rockies series, maybe earlier, but definitely post-break, Encarnacion made a very nice catch on a ball that was popped up into shallow right.  Pujols, luna and Enc were all converging and Enc made the play.  It was the third out of the inning, and right before the video switched to commercial Enc went to high-five albert, and albert turned his back to him and said something to luna, leaving Enc hanging with his hand up in the air.  The look on his face went from joy at making the play to looking like he was about to cry in 1/10th of a second.  It was just about the only emotion I've seen him have all year, which made it all the more sad.  

That sight has been nagging at me ever since.  It was just such a catty thing to do that I couldn't believe I saw ALBERT of all people do it, and it makes me wonder about some of the missed plays/lack of hustle that Enc has had since then- a thing like that can take a guy from "team player" to "playing for a paycheck" and albert might not even know he did it.

I'm not dissing on albert- again, I doubt if he even realized enc was wanting approval from him, and even if he did they are grown men and should be mature about it, but albert may not realize how much his role in the clubhouse has changed since the geezers left at the end of last year.

by SleepyCA on Aug 4, 2006 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I post this because....
everytime I even remotely bash Albert he responds like a madman for my fantasy team lol.  I'm worried, but I am not ready to give up on this team yet.  

The leaders need to lead, and rigth now they simply aren't.

That can change with one swing of the bat.

by Pujols for MVP on Aug 4, 2006 12:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind
I see what you're doing. I do the same thing.

by ryanisforever on Aug 4, 2006 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame myself
I had an opportunity to go to the game tonight but already had plans to see a free screening of Little Miss Sunshine-it was girl's night.  Cards ALWAYS win when I go to the game.

by heart cards on Aug 4, 2006 12:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow
And you're not a season ticket holder, why?

by aet15 on Aug 4, 2006 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a perfect world,
I would be, but I blew all my money on a silly education.  Maybe Walt will give me comp tickets if I show him the trend...I'll keep my fingers crossed.

by heart cards on Aug 4, 2006 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha.
Go for it!

by aet15 on Aug 4, 2006 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geesh.....
Talk about going off the deep end.  Trust me I can admit I probably go too far in my Pujols bashing.  Most likely that is because of a stupid fantasy league reason.  But I also know this guy has won us more games than I can count singlehandedly in the last 5 years or so.  

My comments were VERY tongue in check. You obviously missed that tone.  Understandable bro.

However, everyone on this team is accountable for this poor play of late.  INCLUDING him, so let's not forget that.  Just because someone is that good doesn't excuse poor play. As you said, and as I agree, it's a group effort.  Nobody should be excluded, from Miles to Pujols.

We are all frustrated.  So I apologize Ryan (if that is in fact your name) for my post/tone.  I think you read it wrong.  It's hard almost impossible to grasp a tone in a post.  

Pujols is in a slump.  Woop de do.  It's just crappy timing with this team losing as bad as they are.  That's why things are being blown up more than they need to be.  If Albert hits .180 and this team wins 7 of 8 who cares.  

Regardless, I am sorry if my post offended or upset ya man.  Just know it's frustration.  Come see my office at my home...and then talk tome about Pujols and what I think about the man.  My point I guess was (long story longer) everyone is to blame for this, even his play of late as crappy as that might be.  Without him however, we are looking at a sub .500 team.

 

by Pujols for MVP on Aug 4, 2006 1:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2003
Its not a 2003 repeat b/c we won't lose out to the Cubs.  We could probably play .450 ball from here on out and still win the division.  2003 was totally different because we didn't make the playoffs.  Until that happends this year, it is still better than '03.
"The right-hander is throwing up in the bullpen." -Mike Shannon

by DJ87 on Aug 4, 2006 1:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll always be a Cardinal Fan
...but if Carpenter doesn't turn it around against the brewers, im am for the first time going to start having my doubts of us winning the division.
~Fox~

by pujols5 on Aug 4, 2006 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Memphis Redbirds tonite vs.Sacramento River Cats
Don't count on the Cardinals getting any help there. They got absolutely clobbered 15-1, gave up 6, count em' 6, home runs, setting a record for the Sacramento River Cats.
2 errors committed by the Redbirds, Narveson only lasted about 3 innings, and they only got 5 hits.
Sigh...

But hey, Jr. Spivey hit a home run... and I got Timo Perez and Brad Thompsons' autograph... :-)

I'm going to my happy place now.

by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 4, 2006 1:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

slump
Being a Cards fan for a long time as most people here, it is hard to see the way this team has been playing lately. Looking back however to the last 7-8 years of the brewery owned team, do we really want teams like that again? We have been spoiled with 5 playoff teams in 6 years. I never got upset about 2003 because you can't win them all. I may not be real happy with the way the owners have done things this year, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to go back to the last years of Dal Maxvill. If we win the division, and I think we will sneak it out, and then bow out in the first round, I can live with that. I just hate to see the team look so bad, like they may not be as caring as possible, not to single out anyone, but the entire team seems lost. Is there a way to get out of a skid like this? I don't think there is a deal out there that would make us any better. Shawn Green? I would rather use J-Rod and Dunc. Kind of glad we didn't get Craig Wilson, but I think we could have beat Shawn Chacon for him. Well these are my thoughts, anyone agree?

by bigcardsfan5 on Aug 4, 2006 1:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beer vs. Budget

  I keep hearing Walt has to stick within a certain budget. Whats a large draft cost at Busch these days? $7,$7.50? With all the fricking beer they sell at that place why don't the raise the beer another 50 cents & they could afford anybody!
CliffNotes

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