Pan fried
it has been a while since the cardinals and their fans were this exhilarated by an open date . . . .
from our old friends at etymology online:
Doomsday (n): O.E. domesdæg, from domes, gen. of dom (see doom) + dæg "day." In medieval England it was expected when the world's age reached 6,000 years from creation, which was thought to have been in 5200 B.C. Bede, c.720, complained of being pestered by rustici asking him how many years till the sixth millennium ended. There is no evidence for a general panic in the year 1000 C.E. . . .
and boy, did the reds beat 'em.
we had been hoping that this amazing team would amaze us again, as they did last summer when they kept playing .625 ball with half of the roster on the disabled list. and for the first 17 innings after albert hit the DL, it looked like the cardinals might do just that. but it's now time to give that fantasy up and accept reality. the cards aren't gonna start printing their playoff tickets at the all-star break in 2006. they're gonna have to fight to get into the postseason. they might make it; they might not. pretty typical circumstances for a baseball team in early june.
once we accept that, and let go of the premise that a 6- or 7-game lead on the division is part of the natural order, it's possible we'll get through this summer without letting Pan singe all of our synapses. we might even find that his province -- the woods and fields of a pennant race -- isn't so scary. on the contrary, it can be kind of beautiful.
we have been here before, and not that long ago. just two years back, on this very date, the cardinals woke up in 2d place, a game behind -- guess who? -- the reds. see for yourselves -- the standings are here, just scroll down to the bottom of the page. that cardinal team, much like this one, was finding its way through the early part of the schedule with a retread at 2b, a bunch of nobodies sharing time in left, a journeyman free-agent signee in right field, a rag-tag bench, and a bend-don't-break starting rotation. the team was a game out of first, and only a few games ahead of 5th-place milwaukee in a very tightly bunched division -- yet we were reasonably happy, because we hadn't yet formed the expectations we have now.
let the expectations go; be happy.
if nothing else, be happy the cardinals won't be on autopilot for the entire 2d half of the schedule. be happy their flaws got exposed early enough in the season that the front office will be forced to confront them with a sense of urgency. be happy that the 2d half of this season probably won't be an interminable slog through one meaningless series after another, as last year's was.
that bastard Pan is gonna be making his racket all season.
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Here's my question
I was exceedinly concerned about the offense when Pujols went down. They've calmed some of my worries about that. There is certainly less room for error but we can still be an above .500 ballclub if our pitching rights itself. I'm not asking for a staff of aces but some quality starts would be great. Maybe it's just a lull but the combination of an injured(?) Carpenter and the other four pitching poorly (or maybe just falling back in line with their peripherals - regression to the mean can be a real B***H) our SP looks anemic. The bullpen is going to feed off good starting pitching but they aren't free of blame either.
well
by sportsmanspark78 on Jun 8, 2006 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Lemme get this straight
And replace him with a rookie who might not be playing but for nepotism?
Tha panic portion of lb's post is reverberating here. I don't cringe with jed at 1st. Outstanding 1st baseman? No. Serviceable, solid? Absolutely.
This is why
if
by sportsmanspark78 on Jun 8, 2006 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Pitching has to improve
Re: edmonds sucks at 1st
As far as the team goes, panic hasn't set in yet; heart palpitations, yes, but not panic.
Well we know he isn't experienced
Why don't we put one of our bench players with the right experience in there and see if we can get Edmonds better for heading back out to CF?
by dontEATnachos on Jun 8, 2006 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Jim
Ill advised? Maybe.
Agressive? Yes sir.
Did I like it? You Bet.
I like his bat in the line up. he'll be back in the outfield soon. Then Chris can have his 1 bag back.
He had a huge chaw in last night in the first. Kept spitting into his glove. I wish you guys could have seen my wife's face when he did that!
bubble gum, maybe
it wasn't gum...
Daddy's Boy
by 26thMan on Jun 8, 2006 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the nastiest f*cking habit
;-)
Show respect to Dr. Strangelove
by flynn on Jun 8, 2006 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
"Strangelove?"
Yes
by flynn on Jun 8, 2006 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I find this whole
And can it be a bad thing to have a little pressure on the front office to question the steps they've taken? To try some different theories about pitching-staff construction, etc.?
As far as the team goes....
expectations
That can't happen
After signing Rocket... you can bet even the Astros think they have a chance.
Let's give Walt the opportunity to make a move or two... then decide.
by Matt @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 8, 2006 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
A rebuild?
by flynn on Jun 8, 2006 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah....
Smoke and Mirrors
For reference, last year's STL team faced an average Challenge Rating (CR) of 968, meaning that they tended to face more teams below .500 or decent teams playing poorly right before/after their series with the Cardinals. Some of the swing is attributed to the fact that the Cardinals didn't have to play against themselves, but basically they got somewhat lucky with their schedule. That said, the Cardinals had the second-easiest draw (and just ahead of the Padres, Brewers and White Sox); the New York Yankees had by far the easiest schedule, with a CR of 937. OTOH, the Rangers, Nationals and Blue Jays had the toughest roads to travel (1066, 1064, & 1061, respectively).
(Side note: this system reaffirmed my notion that the Cubs always seem to get it up for strong teams playing well. When going against REAL competition (CR >1.28, basically every time the Cards showed up), they were 16-8; everbody else: 63-75.)
So far this season (games thru 5/31), St. Louis has had a criminally easy schedule, with a CR of 882 (Cincinnati is 2nd in the NL with a 941). Early in the season, it's fairly easy to get wild numbers out of this system, but still ... They had a very easy first month (817), followed up with a decent May (941) - and they took advantage of it.
Combining this CR system with Win Probability Added, you really see that the Cardinals are Pujols, Carpenter, and not much else. An offense w/o Albert that is basically holding us back, a starting staff (minus CC) that only works well when backed by a top notch attack, and a bullpen that gets the job done on most nights, despite a dead-weight anchor at the end. I'm not really harping on anyone individually, but collectively they're just a .500 team waiting for Albert to do something spectacular to save the day or for Carp to pitch a gem.
How do you determine
Nuts and Bolts
The Cardinals and Reds faced each other on the 1st and 2nd of May this year. The Cardinals had won 4 of their previous 5 games prior to the series (3 of 4 from WAS, the final game against PIT), then won 3 of 5 after the series (two game sweep by HOU, then 3 game sweep vs FLA); therefore, they won 7 of 10 around that series, which yields a factor of 1.2 (0.7 + 0.5). Multiply that number by twice the STL total year winning percentage (.642 as of 5/31). That makes 1.2 times 1.284, which equals app. 1.56; multiply that by 1000 to simplify the number = 1560. That is the Challenge Rating that the Reds are going against. Using the same formula, Cincy poses a CR of 1204 (.547 win%, 4 of 5 before, 2 of 5 after) for the Cardinals.
For the average CR for the year, take the number for each series played this year, multiply each one by the number of games in the series, then divide the whole thing by the total number of games.
I did this for both leagues, every team last year. I just recently started it up for this year, so I've barely started the AL (enough to get the KC series out of the way), but the NL is complete, except for the first interleague series.
I'll post more in a little while; gotta log off (at work).
What it means
The Cardinals have only had 4 series (thru 5/31) that would be considered good challenges: Cincy the first two times, Arizona, and the Mets (they went 6-5). But they've had 8 series against <800 teams: Cubs at Wrigley, both times vs PIT, WAS, FLA, KC (CR of 306), and both times vs HOU - shocker! They went 16-8, but that includes a 3-game sweep by Cubs and a 2-game set by HOU; we should've won 3-4 of those games. Twice as many games against poor competition as good ones has been a huge factor in our record to this point.
I just think that if we start seeing some real competition over the next few weeks without Albert, our shortcomings that we've hidden fairly well over the first two months are going to come to the forefront and we're going to get hit hard.
i like the system
i think your overall point is right on. the cards have been taking advantage of a down league, masking their own deficiencies by pounding weaker teams. but they ultimately get exposed --- not till the playoffs most years, but it al'ys happens sooner or later. that's why, so many of us have been focused on the cards' weaknesses this spring, despite their outstanding w-l record -- because they never have really been quite what their record suggested.
thanks a lot for adding new info to the dicussion
If you want
The neat thing about this is that when the Cards beat the Astros early last year, the wins didn't look that impressive. But they sure did by the time September rolled around, and the system updates that data.
Let me know if you want it and I'll e-mail you the file, plus last year's for reference.
Nice post lboros!
I'm a little slow sometimes.
Pan = Panic
From wikipedia entry on Panic
Panic is a sudden fear which dominates or replaces thinking and often affects groups of people or animals. Panics typically occur in disaster situations, and may endanger the overall health of the affected group. The word panic derives from the name of the Greek god Pan, who strikes fear into the enemies of His subjects.
by dontEATnachos on Jun 8, 2006 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope
...hey it could work...
Response to I Hope
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 8, 2006 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and plenty of other 2nd place teams
Wild
2002 Angels
2003 Marlins
2004 Red Sox
World Champion Wild Cards
2000 Mets
2002 Giants
2004 Astros
League Champion Wild Cards
by flynn on Jun 8, 2006 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks lboros
thank you tudes
In an alternate universe...
I know those are two big ifs, but I agree that we don't need to be wringing our hands and gnashing our teeth just yet.
I agree
It was a lot like Lidgebreaker's home in the playoffs last year. I didn't cheer - I turned to my wife and said "I don't believe that just happened. I'll wait for the replay."
I was not stocked, or shocked
by robdouth on Jun 8, 2006 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
by Lord Fortune on Jun 8, 2006 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
I think
by pujols5 on Jun 8, 2006 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
Certainly
The last two nights... I just have to tip my hat to the Reds. They got good to great pitching... punished the Cards nibbling starters... and made the plays when they needed to.
by Matt @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 8, 2006 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to sound overly optimistic...
3 Brewers
3 Pirates
3 Rockies
1 Kansas City
Record should be: 7-3
3 White Sox
3 Indians
3 Detroit
Record hopefully: 4-6
11-9 over the rest of the month. I could live with that. Those AL matchup records could go back up if El Hombre returns.
i'd be overjoyed with 11-9
personally, i could live with 9-11
I know - please don't bring
grow up
by robdouth on Jun 8, 2006 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So, about baseball...
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 8, 2006 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep...
by rockin redbird on Jun 8, 2006 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The only politics in baseball
by dontEATnachos on Jun 8, 2006 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
robdouth, i have said this
if you can't express disagreement in a civil, non-shrill manner, then go post somewhere else. not here.
sorry
by robdouth on Jun 8, 2006 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
In Re Subject
I, for one, certainly hope the subject remains exclusively baseball here at VEB. That is a major part of this blog's excellence IMO...
Detroit
The way our pitching has fallen apart this last
Wainwright showed again last night why he should be considered "untouchable", The two innings he pitched last night were not mop-up duty. He came in against a team that wanted to embarass the cardinals and slammed the door shut on thier offense. The kid is the Holy Baseball Trinity: young, cheap, and good.
Reyes has performed well and is a very good 4-5 starter. Instead of trading any of these two we should involve another team by trading 2 of our #3 starters (mulder and marquis) for some prospects and flip those prospects for a real #2 starter. Schmidt? Willis?
Unless the Birds can get an extension for Mulder before the season is over, we won't throw enough money at him to resign him anyway.
did everybody see Deadspin?
me too
by mathew234 on Dec 2, 2006 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
Say it ain't so...
by robdouth on Jun 8, 2006 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Google 'Chris Mihlfeld'
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Last October 20, one day after the Cardinals were eliminated from the NLCS, Pujols was on the phone with Chris Mihlfeld, a Kansas City trainer who works with Pujols in the offseason. "Chris," he said, "we need to work on my situational hitting." Situational hitting? Pujols had just finished a season in which he hit .329 with runners in scoring position.
"But that's Albert," Mihlfeld says. "He is always going to find a reason to be unhappy with his game because he believes if he does not do that he's going to level off. He doesn't want to level off."
Hard to say what would be wrong with leveling off at Pujols' numbers over his first five seasons: He hit .332 with an average of 40 home runs and 124 RBIs. But Pujols wanted to be a better situational hitter, so he made that a focus of his offseason.
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