spivey's gone

by lboros on Apr 3, 2006 12:01 AM EDT in News Comment 30 comments

Cardinals second baseman Junior Spivey will not join the club for opening day and a roster move will be made Monday that determines his future with the club.

Spivey remained behind in St. Louis on Sunday and had his achy shoulder checked out. General manager Walt Jocketty said Sunday evening the determination was made that Spivey would not need to start the season on the disabled list.

`I don't think anything will happen before (Monday),'' Jocketty said after the team arrived in Philadelphia. ``We are going to address the roster then. There are people we have to add to the roster. We do have to remove a person, and we have some administering to do for the roster.''

Infielder Hector Luna is on the team, Jocketty confirmed.

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There's a deal afoot...

because Luna was shown as being on the roster earlier today, even before this story was posted.

I don't know if someone got claimed off waivers, picked up as a DFA or a straight trade, but I will bet there's a deal that's been made.

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by Quietude on Apr 3, 2006 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nah, no deal

Unless Jocketty is just flat lying to the press, the article says there isn't any thing forthcoming, at least for now.

Reverend Redbird

by erik on Apr 3, 2006 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they shortened the story

When I read it like 5 minutes ago, they mentioned there was no forthcoming deal. These guys must be in mid edit.

I think they do have something in the works for sure, but who and what?

Speculation,anyone?

Reverend Redbird

by erik on Apr 3, 2006 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm more worried about what we are going to have

to give up...

whoever trades with us knows that they have us backed in a corner and I hope we don't give up legetimate talent for a 2b stopgap

by azruavatar on Apr 3, 2006 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Since insanity is fun...

Suppan, Reyes and Lambert to the orioles for Tejada and a lot of cash

Reyes and Schumaker and J-Rod to the Marlins for Miggy Cabrera

Soriano for a pack of gum and Bo Hart, thanks to an incompetent Washington front office

by Valatan on Apr 3, 2006 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i like insanity

Bo Hart is a Rockie, so that is insane. But you are on the right track. How about Junior Spivey, Kevin Ool, Wayne Hagin, and a 6 pack to the Devil Rays for Julio Lugo and their resident heckler.

Reverend Redbird

by erik on Apr 3, 2006 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lugo

You kind of mentioned Lugo in jest but he might actually be a viable option. They have B.J. Upton just waiting to come up in that system and its been known that the D-Rays have talked about trading Lugo in the past. Sure he's a SS but hes played some second in his day. He's fast and has good on-base skills (.360) last year. He also walks about as much as he strikes out. Would be the perfect fit in the #2 slot in the order. He does cost 3.25 Mil thou

by BigMac545 on Apr 3, 2006 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lugo

And, Julio would fill the huge hole the team currently has in the Wife Beater category. And I'm not talking about the shirt.

by flynn on Apr 3, 2006 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why?

why do I have a real bad feeling Craig Counsel is headed our way? The D-backs have been fielding offers for Koyie Hill because he is out of options and not expected to make their club. A package deal could be in the works?

by acr on Apr 3, 2006 2:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

please shoot me

if it comes down to the CC at 2B for a whole season. Ugh.

by Valatan on Apr 3, 2006 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I call being shot second

by azruavatar on Apr 3, 2006 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CC

Actually, I admit I wouldn't mind him. Ugliest batting stance I've ever seen, but he can steal a base and last year according to many defensive metrics he should've won the GG.

He actually finished the season ahead of 2 2nd basemen many bemoan we didn't get this offseason, Luis Castillo and Mark Loretta. Oh, he had more Win Shares then Grudzelaniek last year, too.

So, no, he is far from the long term answer, but he would make a more plausible stop gap then Aaron Miles.

Reverend Redbird

by erik on Apr 3, 2006 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Craig Counsel

Nice guy and decent fielder, but i dont think i can stand to watch him bat for a whole season.

by Los Cardinales on Apr 3, 2006 4:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Spivey to Memphis...

if he agrees. (My opinion only!) I can see Walt saying, "Get to Memphis, get some good at-bats, settle down your fielding, and we'll set you somewhere in the big where you can play..."

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 3, 2006 2:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yay!

it may well be for nothing. the roster move being made could be bringing someone up from memphis. i bet larussa is more than happy to play miles for a month or so and then make a deal...given availability of some quality

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by VanRam on Apr 3, 2006 7:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Miles for now

Official site : Miles gets the nod

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060401&content_id=1379918& ;vkey=spt2006news&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl

Blog about baseball and other stuff

by Neuronix on Apr 3, 2006 8:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Phillips??

Possibly...Indians have been shopping him around like mad the past 3 or 4 days. I think he would be a good fit---great defence, young, and a change of scenery may bring back some of those offensive "tools" he was touted as having 2 years ago.

by cmat on Apr 3, 2006 8:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Phillips

The Indians designated Phillips for assignment on Saturday, so the Cardinals may put in a waiver claim on him.

Who knows whether he'd show some maturity in the business-like Cardinals clubhouse.

I'm still hoping Spivey turns things around sometime in the next month or so, though.

by liam on Apr 3, 2006 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Graf ?

Remember the Royals claimed him off waivers. Heck we should be able to pull off some sort of deal with those fellows. Maybe they'll let us rent Grudz for a year or send Graf our way.

by acr on Apr 3, 2006 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Why is everybody down on miles

given his career numbers I don't think its imposible to expect .300/.330/.370 out of this guy.

that's not GREAT, but I think it fits the definition of "stop gap" pretty well.

I'd be more inclined to spend our precious few prospects on more of an impact player in left field. 2B has always just been a placeholder for us anyway.

o8o88o888o

by ilillillli on Apr 3, 2006 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

re: career numbers

**given his career numbers I don't think its imposible to expect .300/.330/.370 out of this guy.**

i think thats a bit optimistic considering those career numbers are aided by a certain home park that is just a tad friendly to hitters. career road numbers are .255/.284/.337.

by dmb60614 on Apr 3, 2006 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and...

that is a pretty empty .255/.284/.337 line when you consider 4 homers and 12 doubles in 419 at bats away from Coors...not that he ever much extra base hit ability at home either.

by acr on Apr 3, 2006 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Off topic

but does anyone else besides me find that ad for the "2005 Houston Astros: Championship Season DVD" really annoying to see? Not that I think ads should be controlled or monitored---it's really just that it makes me mad everytime I see it there...staring at me...mocking me...arrrgh!

by cmat on Apr 3, 2006 9:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was more annoyed with the 2004 Red Sox crap

It seemed that everywhere I looked (including chain stores here in St. Louis) there was Red Sox World Series stuff. That got annoying fast.

by bailorg on Apr 3, 2006 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, my apologies

it's an SB Nation network ad; out of my hands

i wouldn't take their filthy money man

by lboros on Apr 3, 2006 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by madridbend on Apr 3, 2006 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Miles

I say give Miles a shot for at least a couple weeks, he posted some decent numbers this spring. I know that spring is no indicator for the regular season, but I think he's at least earned a shot

by MarcGldstn on Apr 3, 2006 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs