So ok I got into drawing other ideas for the VEB t-shirt if we can't use the Amadee image.  I need a translation to do a mock-up for posting.  I kinda got the idea from the "the birds are life" which i might just throw "el birdos son todos" on their anyway.  The image is a half-cardinal/half-heart (anatomically correct).  It is kinda creepy, edgey, and actually kinda cool.  I was looking for "red bird at heart" or "heart of a red bird"--something along those lines...any other ideas are welcomed. Update [2006-10-6 9:8:12 by BigJawnMize]: Threw a mock-up below. I know it is in B&W and should be in red. I just don't have the good software for this stuff anymore. The idea is that the image would be similary located and sized to your acutual heart on the shirt, representing what makes you tick--in a way.