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a quick promotional note: i accepted an invitation to write the foreword for a photo volume commemorating the 2006 cardinals: "Diehard Cards." the book is already at the printer and should be shipping within a matter of days -- 128 pages, full color, retails for $14.95. take this link to get to the ordering page.

there are championships that come on like a stampeding herd; you hear the hooves thundering in the distance, you know exactly what's coming, but when it arrives you're in awe nonetheless. then there are championships that surprise you like rattlesnakes -- rise up out of the weeds with little or no warning and strike before you have any chance to prepare yourself.

finally, there are championships like the one we've just witnessed, which i can only liken to a hailstorm of frogs -- you know, like the one in the climactic scene of magnolia. these are not merely sudden and unexpected; they're inconceivable. and although you learn, after the fact, that in very rare circumstances it really can rain frogs, the scientific explanation for the phenomenon isn't very compelling. the mind can't absorb it. one just walks around in a happy head-shaking daze, unable to get past the fact that it was f*king raining frogs!

so this is how the cardinals' championship drought ends. we watched all those mighty la russa teams billow up like anvil clouds and rattle with thunder and lightning, only to blow over and leave us with dry harvests. then along comes this homely little wisp of vapor, this .500 club, and brings forth a freak monsoon. as long as i live, i'll never figure it out.

but i know it's got something to do with pitching.

that, and what i asserted half-jokingly in my playoff preview at deadspin four weeks ago: being the favorite sucks. it sucked this year for the twins, the padres, the yankees, and ultimately for the tigers, just as it sucked for the cardinals in 04 and 05. when a team gets declared the winner before a pitch is thrown, it only adds pressure to an already pressure-packed situation; lose, and it will be said that the club was never as good as people thought. so it tends to put the team's whole reputation on the line -- hence jim leyland's pointed declaration, after game 5, to the media: "i hope you guys won't just heap dirt on us now that we've lost; i hope you'll at least say a eulogy and acknowledge that we had a pretty damn good season." the only club that handled overdog status well this month was the mets. they didn't just crumble when confronted with a difficult foe and the prospect of defeat; they battled their asses off down to the last pitch, damn near attained the fate prophesied for them. perhaps that's because the mets knew better than to believe their press clippings -- not with their rotation in such a shambles. looking back, that was the only good series of the entire postseason.

so, to return to the pitching: as i noted friday night, the cardinal mound corps outdid itself in october, shaving nearly 2 full runs off its regular-season era. how often does that happen? before we answer that, let's ask first: how often does any championship team post an era as low as 2.62 over an entire postseason? i only looked back as far as 1995, ie the era of the three-series postseason; prior to that a championship might be won in fewer than 10 postseason games, which doesn't seem comparable to the relatively marathon-length course today's champions run. here's how the cardinals stack up:

team era oct w-l
98 yanks 2.38 11-2
99 yanks 2.39 11-1
01 dbacks 2.39 11-6
05 chisox 2.55 11-1
06 cards 2.62 11-5
95 braves 2.69 11-3
00 yanks 3.44 11-5
96 yanks 3.70 11-4
97 marlins 4.25 11-5
03 marlins 4.30 11-6
04 boxos 4.47 11-3
02 angels 4.82 11-5

the cardinals did post an outstanding figure, right up there with the very best, but it was hardly an unprecedented performance. now let's expand the table and rank the teams by the differential between regular-season era and postseason era:

team reg season
era (lg rk)
oct era diff
06 cards 4.54 (9) 2.62 -1.92
99 yanks 4.13 (2) 2.39 -1.74
98 yanks 3.82 (1) 2.38 -1.50
01 dbacks 3.87 (2) 2.39 -1.48
00 yanks 4.76 (5) 3.44 -1.32
05 chisox 3.61 (1) 2.55 -1.06
96 yanks 4.65 (5) 3.70 -0.95
95 braves 3.44 (1) 2.69 -0.75
03 marlins 4.04 (7) 4.30 +0.26
04 boxos 4.18 (3) 4.47 +0.29
97 marlins 3.83 (4) 4.25 +0.42
02 angels 3.69 (2) 4.82 +1.13

note, first of all, that the cardinals are the only team on this list to rank as low as 9th in the league in era; the last champion to match that profile was the 1992 toronto blue jays. we should also observe that the cardinals' team era is extremely misleading, insofar as it largely reflects the failure of three starting pitchers --- marquis, mulder, and ponson --- who weren't on the postseason roster. those three pitchers logged nearly 1/4 of the cardinals' regular-season innings and posted a cumulative era of 6.18; the rest of the pitching staff put up a regular-season era of 4.00. another way to look at this would be to calculate the cardinal staff's era per weighted postseason innings. for example, chris carpenter pitched 23 percent of the cardinals' overall postseason innings, so we'll assign a weight of 23 to his regular-season era; if do the same thing down the line and divide by 100, here's what we get:

pitcher era weight factor
carp 3.09 23 71.1
weaver 5.18 21 108.9
supps 4.12 18 74.2
reyes 5.06 8.5 43.0
wainwright 3.12 7 21.8
looper 3.56 6 21.4
johnson 4.95 5 24.8
kinney 3.24 4.5 14.6
flores 5.62 4 22.5
hancock 4.09 1.5 6.1
thompson 3.34 1.5 5.0
TOTAL 100 413.4

in other words, if each of these pitchers had carried a regular-season workload identical to his october workload, the cardinals would have posted a 4.13 team era. they pitched better than that, obviously -- much better than we had any right to expect. two individuals in particular exceeded expectations to an historic degree this october; i'll write about those guys tomorrow.

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Wake up to VEB
Good morning, lboros.  While you may have enjoyed basking in our victory over the weekend, that sharp baseball mind was obviously working away.....thanks for the early post.

Pitching wins in baseball, especially in the postseason (along with defense - see Tigers, Detroit).  Love the analysis and how you make the number show what we presume as we watch.

This postseason performance would be a fun one to discuss in depth with Dave Duncan.  He and his boys came up huge.

by wildman on Oct 30, 2006 6:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

For subscrubers only
n/t
Oh, the burden of stupid people.

by Solanus on Oct 30, 2006 10:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or subscribers
if you prefer
Oh, the burden of stupid people.

by Solanus on Oct 30, 2006 10:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Power Hitting
Here's an oddity that I haven't seen mentioned.

If I'm not mistaken, during the 3 games in St. Louis, the Cardinals failed to hit a ball that hit or cleared an outfield wall.

by JayS on Oct 30, 2006 8:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

karma, baby
thanks for this recap and the link to brian gunn's piece. now the world series is complete!

i think the pitchers' throwing woes were karmic retribution for rogers' cheating. even in game 1 it could have been for the other two series.

but be that as it may, the cardinals just took advantage of everything and played with joy and verve. it was a beautiful sight to see.

i wore my red VEB shirt to the gym this morning  and got lots of comments and smiles.

thanks for the memories!

by thatsawinner on Oct 30, 2006 8:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Breaking news

On a hunch this morning, I searched around to see if Oquendo is getting any job opportunities next season and found he is interviewing with the Padres on Tuesday:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20061030-9999-1s30padres.html

While I would hate to lose the Secret Weapon, I have to wish Oquendo Godspeed. The Padres organization is a good organization, and I think he'd be stellar.

by glamberson on Oct 30, 2006 9:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It'd certainly be bizarre
to see that guy in another uniform.  

But it'd also be impossible to not wish him well.

by Valatan on Oct 30, 2006 9:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TLR eluded to this
earlier in the week.

by Zubin on Oct 30, 2006 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Taguchi
Is he the first Japanese player to win a World Series?

by Minerball30 on Oct 30, 2006 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

No.
Hideki Irabu won with the Yankees a couple of times.

Tadahito Iguchi won with the White Sox last year.

There might be others, but I remember those two off of the top of my head.

by Valatan on Oct 30, 2006 10:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You are correct
I did some research for a post on my blog, and Irabu/Iguchi are the only 2 Japanese League stars with a World Series title to their credit also.

I thought Taguchi won a Japanese league title, but he didn't; Iguchi is the only Japanese league player to win both his league and the World Series.

by TantoVanLanstrum on Oct 30, 2006 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Believe there was one
on the White Sox, just last year. Tadahito Suzuki?

by Red in Chicago on Oct 30, 2006 10:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Beat me to it
It would be nice to snag Ichiro, while we're on the subject.

by Red in Chicago on Oct 30, 2006 10:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Encarnacion
Anyone see in the P-D's coverage (or live in person or on the TV) that Juan E was not at the festivities yesterday?  From this article:

La Russa theorized Encarnacion was missing "probably because he didn't play much" in the Series' final four games.

Potentially sounds like sour grapes from Juan, and Tony definitely doesn't have his back (how easy would it have been to say "don't know" or "he had a family issue" or something like that?).  I would love to see the Cardinals move that mistake, but I'm not sure how they can do it with that contract (2 more at $5MM per, correct?), and it's not like the Cardinals have a surplus of outfielders at this point.

by holden on Oct 30, 2006 10:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Juan..
It kinda bummed me out that he wasn't there. I just wish players would act a little better. I even give former Cardinal Jason M credit for showing up. Juan had a decent year...76 RBI's and such..he was a part of this team and deserved to be there..

by birdsonthehat on Oct 30, 2006 10:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought it nice that
in all the bench shots and pics of the locker room, Marquis was all smiles.  

by sdrone on Oct 30, 2006 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

marquis
i dont really want to re-sign him but i hope the crowd gave him a nice ovation during the ceremony at the stadium.  i was watching it on the internet and didnt hear any boos.  then again, i didnt hear any for izzy and people tell me he was booed.

by dmb60614 on Oct 30, 2006 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Same here..
I think Marquis was a part of this team too. As much as he made me crazy he contributed to 14 wins (or something like that) He showed some class yesterday being there.

Jared Weaver looked nice in all Cardinals stuff on Friday too..

by birdsonthehat on Oct 30, 2006 10:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marquis
He has the potential to be a great pitcher.  He just has to show it.

Was it against the Mets that he had the lead that gave him a win in August, when Weaver got a ND because Izzy gave up a HR?

Redbirds Fun
The Kentucky Democrat
Win it for JB and DK57

by cardsfan84 on Oct 30, 2006 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bases on Balls
A lot has been made of the record string of errors by the Detroit pitching staff in the series.  I wanted to raise one other telling statistic.  If I've counted right, the Tigers gave up 18 walks in the 3 games in St. L., and the Cardinals gave up 5 walks.  Six of the Cardinals 14 runs in those games came following a walk.  Two of the Tigers' 6 runs came following a walk.

Becasue there really was no difference in hits between the two teams, it was the walk differential, along with the errors, that gave the Cardinals their advantage in base runners.

The Cardinals should get credit for the walk differential.  That's not a fluke.

by ncgostl on Oct 30, 2006 10:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cards coaxed 23 or 24 walks
according to one of the articles lboros linked.

I think.

Man, I can't remember crap.

by sdrone on Oct 30, 2006 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

23 walks
Right--23 walks in the whole series, 18 in the 3 games in St. Louis.

by ncgostl on Oct 30, 2006 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And
...to complete the stats, the Tigers drew 7 walks in the whole series (5 in the games in St. Louis).

I singled out the 18 to 5 advantage in the three games in St. Louis because it made a difference in the number of runs that followed. The 5 to 2 Cardinal walk advantage in the two games in Detroit didn't yield any differences in runs scored.  

The overall walk advantage was 23 to 7.

by ncgostl on Oct 30, 2006 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And the article
that LB referenced in baseball analysts (I think) pointed out that every one of Detroit's errors in the series came w/ at least 1 Card on base.  We put the pressure on them and they couldn't handle it.

by chuckb on Oct 30, 2006 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dvd
Does anyone know when a commemorative Cardinals 06 DVD will be coming out?

by eglasier on Oct 30, 2006 11:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, the Sox one
was available by Christmas last year.

The MLB idiots just put a hold on my sweatshirt order.

by sdrone on Oct 30, 2006 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the web page clearly said in stock
now they say they aren't ready, and the web page no longer has the "in stock" blurb.  Sigh.

by sdrone on Oct 30, 2006 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait 'til next year
Maybe it's always been this way for successful teams... but it seems like the Cardinals are hated more than ever.

I checked a few of the rival blogs this morning... and found some pretty harsh language about our team and its victory.

I know LB would never use this blog as a forum for gratuitous bashing... so there's one more reason to be arrogant today.

by Matt on Oct 30, 2006 11:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i saw
Cards fans have class.  Opposing fans, not so much.

I saw the Red Reporter one and glanced at the Cubs one.

Redbirds Fun
The Kentucky Democrat
Win it for JB and DK57

by cardsfan84 on Oct 30, 2006 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Out of curiosity...
I just jumped over and read the Game 5 thread on BCB. Good lord! I am glad that Cardinal fans possess class. There were a lot of very degrading posts referring to the team and to David Eckstein.

After seeing the parade and the ceremony inside the stadium yesterday I just have to say that this truly is "Baseball Heaven". I will admit that I, like a lot of others, gave the Cardinals little chance at the beginning of the post season. I watched each game for the enjoyment of watching my favorite team in the playoffs. This team played an amazing 16 games in the playoffs and despite what the national media say...they DESERVE this championship. Here's to defending the title in 07!

"Forget about the curveball Ricky...Give him the heater!!"

by BleacherBum on Oct 30, 2006 12:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm supposed to care about...
what some guy in New Jersey thinks???

Look, I've been in the sports reporting biz for 30+ years... During a conversation a couple of weeks ago with the Arkansas State football beat writer for the Jonesboro Sun, I pointed out, "Who are these national writers, anyway? They're just guys like you and me, but with larger platforms and audiences. If I read something about A-State from Joe National, and something about A-State from you, who am I gonna believe? You, for course... 'cause you see these guys every day."

Look, Peter Gammons is an excellent baseball writer... but no way can he know more about the Cardinals than Rick Hummel. I don't watch the "talking heads" at ESPN anymore... they've been wrong too often for me to accept their analyses as anything but whatever BS pops into their heads at that moment.

So some guys (getting paid to watch the ballgames and writing about it) were unimpressed with the 2006 WS? Fine... I'm unimpressed with them!

Me, I just repeat my new Zen mantra...

"Worrrrllllddddd Champions! Worrrrllllddddd Champions! Worrrrllllddddd Champions!"

"A man should live forever, or die trying." -- Mike Callahan

by The Ol Goaler on Oct 30, 2006 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My question is,
if it was the Mets vs. Yankees in the series, and both teams played really, really, REALLY crappy, would he have still written that? I doubt it.

It lists his email address. We should bombard him with messages from the Cardinals/VEB nation.

by Jhusk on Oct 30, 2006 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

feel free to write him
but don't attach VEB as the source. he's doing his job and doing it in good faith; he's entitled to his opinion. i don't want this site associated with harrassment of journalists

by lboros on Oct 30, 2006 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Larry
My intention wasn't really to get anyone P.O.ed at VEB.  I really mentioned the article because it was mentioned as a good peice in general by the WSJ.  In some ways it is, but obviously I don't agree with many of the supports or conclusions.

In particlar I believe there is a quote in the article about how everytime the Tigers made an eror, the Cardinals scored twice.  (He is close, the actual ratio is 8/5 or 1.6 runs/ error.)  Well I believe those 23 walks had something to do with that stat.  That is the Cardinals capitalized on the errors because they had a lot more men on base.

by Zubin on Oct 30, 2006 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no worries Z
i have no problem with your linking the article. i was only reacting to the suggestion, offered subsequently, that VEB nation should bombard the author's inbox. i don't endorse a campaign of that type --- and i know it wasn't your intention to launch that.

by lboros on Oct 30, 2006 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps it's because
I feel completely satisfied after the victory.  Perhaps my basking period will last a good long while (more than a year?).  Then again, it may end quickly when a prized free agent goes elsewhere, but:

Who cares what others (bloggers, media, co-workers, etc.) say about the Cardinals?  The Cards won!  They are the world series champions.

Regardless of media or public opinion or Nielsen ratings, the banner will go up next year.

And it won't say anything more than St. Louis Cardinals 2006 World Series champions.

And that is the ONLY thing that matters.

2006 World Champs! Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by BozCardsFanSF on Oct 30, 2006 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting tired
of reading about how badly the Tigers played b/c they didn't take pitches.  They didn't take pitches all year!  They didn't take pitches vs. the Yanks or A's and beat both of them soundly.  The difference is that, for the most part, we kept them in the park and when they did hit one out, all but one was a solo shot.  The same Tigers that everyone raved about was no less patient in the series vs. the Cards than they were all year or throughout the playoffs.

It's no question that it's a weakness that the Cards were able to exploit but that is to the Cards' credit.  If the Yanks or A's had been able to exploit it, maybe they'd be wearing rings!

by chuckb on Oct 30, 2006 5:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What are our biggest offseason needs?
Regardless of how things play out, it would seem like we're set for pitching next season. Those of you who think we need to go after Jason Schmidt should remember that our pitching held up well against the less-than-stellar staffs around baseball today. The possibility of Mulder returning to his 2004 form, and Wainwright moving into the starting rotation, gives us a real chance of upgrading our starting rotation and we still have some nice, young arms in Memphis to go along with Ricardo Rincon next season.

Our greatest needs, imo, are an adequate second baseman, if Belliard becomes unaffordable, as expected, along with more solid defensive and offensive production from atleast one of the two corner outfield positions.

by rob is back on Oct 30, 2006 1:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching
Pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching

by sdrone on Oct 30, 2006 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thoughts...
... assuming he comes cheap, i actually really like the Dotel option. if we can slot Wainwright in as a #3 or #4 pitcher, then signing Dotel is like getting a quality starter for cheap.

i don't think Soriano or Lee will stay in the NL. if they do, they won't come to the Cardinals. either one will probably command salaries greater than Pujols', and that's not happening.

i don't hate the Ray Durham idea... but i don't love it either. i never like over-paying for guys who over-perform in their contract years. then again, the market is pretty rich with fair-to-good 2B - Soriano, Loretta, Belliard, Kennedy - and not a whole lot of teams need 2B, so Durham might stay cheap enough for it to make sense.

i HATE the Aubrey Huff idea. i'd rather see J-Rod get consistent paying time. what this team really needs is someone to platoon with Dunc and JED. for that reason, i could see Wilson coming back, or some of his ilk.

i propose NOT signing a back-up catcher, and let Rose or somebody fill that role. that'll save a million or so. also, i'd like to see a bullpen of Izzy, Looper, Thompson, Kinney, Johnson, Flores, Rincon or something close to that. not signing guys like Hancock who are replacement-level on good days will also free up some bucks. i believe we've also got Sosa for another year; not sure what good he'll be, but maybe Dunc can work some magic once again.

as for the bench... using Schumacher, J-Rod, Nelson (?), Miles, etc. will free up some cash. i'll miss Taguchi and Spiezio, but i think putting that money elsewhere is better for the team.

then you start with a rotation of Carp, Wainwright, Reyes. not a bad place to start for under 10/mil.

i think Jocketty's got some room to work, because of the young pitching he's got. hopefully he can get some good stuff done.

by kindred on Oct 30, 2006 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that last year
and thought the Yankees might really benefit from having Dotel.  I'm more leery this time.  He threw, I think, 10 innings all year.  If he's healthy, he could really help us out but I'll believe it when I see it.

by chuckb on Oct 30, 2006 5:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Octavio Dotel?
The guy should have an award named after him for the most overrated bullpen retread each season (Ricardo Rincon would have had a good shot at this award in 2006 were it not for the injury.)

Other suggestions from that article:

Ray Durham... is 83.  He played with Satchel Paige.

Carlos Lee... makes Chris Duncan's outfield defense look like Jim Edmonds's.

Brad Radke... has a shoulder that makes Scott Rolen's look like the picture of health.

Aubrey Huff... is essentially a slightly more versatile Juan Encarnacion.

by Quietude on Oct 31, 2006 1:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hancock was considerably above replacement
level. He was probably better than Thompson, Looper, Sosa based on the whole year's performance.  And he's the only RHP in the bullpen to get out lefties.
Acquire Jason Schmidt!

by azruavatar on Oct 31, 2006 2:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As I said
yesterday--I frankly enjoy how our success sticks in the craw of those "journalists." It does nothing but make obvious their bias against the midwest and the National League in general (except for the Mets, of course). They've pronounced the AL superior, so it must be--even in the "flyover" states they really don't give a damn about. Whatever. They make me laugh. As for BCB, whattaya expect? Class? That's a good one. Our winning the year after the White Sox has them so tied up in knots it's pitiful. My own Cubfan friends are near despondent that they have lost the ONE reliable comeback they could always fall back on in an argument (Cardinals are postseason chokers). Nah--revel in it, folks. They're choking on their sour grapes while we sip the sweet wine of victory. Could it really get any better?

by rockin redbird on Oct 30, 2006 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

success in the new ballpark
George Will (himself a Cub fan) pointed out that, as postseason began, neither the Cubs nor the Cards had won a championship in their new ballparks, the difference being that the Cards inaugurated Busch III this year, and the Cubbies inaugurated Wrigley in 1914.

That similarity, however, no longer exists.

by madridbend on Oct 30, 2006 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I told my sister
and brother-in-law last night that, all of a sudden, I have that "morning after Christmas" feeling. Anyone else feel this way?

by cardsrul on Oct 30, 2006 2:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not sure
what ya mean, Cardsrul.

by rockin redbird on Oct 30, 2006 2:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I assume...
he means...all the presents are open....the anticipation of opening them is gone...and now?..what do I do?....is that it?

by Timbo02 on Oct 30, 2006 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh
okay. I wasn't sure if it was meant as a positive or a negative. Being a kind of Scrooge, I LOVE the morning after X-mas. It means the bulk of the dreaded holiday season is over, the forced "fellowship" between family members who clearly can't stand each other is ended for another year, and we can all get back to whatever our lives really are. Sad, I guess, but the commercialization of the whole thing and the false "one day a year caring" from family who do nothing but feud the other 364 days of the year have left me a bit cynical.

by rockin redbird on Oct 30, 2006 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Timbo
hit it on the head.

by cardsrul on Oct 30, 2006 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my
"comedown" will take a bit longer. I live in enemy (Cubs) territory, so I can't leave my house or see half my friends without being right back in the celebratory moment. Hopefully it will last a long long time, but a back to earth crash is inevitable I guess. As much as I'd love it to, my team winning the World Series isn't going to change my life in any real way. At least hot stove will be heating up soon.

by rockin redbird on Oct 30, 2006 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still
can't get used to the fact that baseball season is... over?

by madding on Oct 30, 2006 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But the time we fans can use the term
"Current or Defending World Series Champions" is only 3 days old.  We have about 362 more of them to enjoy as fans of the Kings of Baseball.
2006 World Champs! Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by BozCardsFanSF on Oct 30, 2006 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least 362 days or so...
How do you know we won't repeat?

by Zubin on Oct 30, 2006 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Could very well be possible
But not a given.  There's no uncertainty about the next 362 (now 361) days of claiming the champions title.
2006 World Champs! Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

by BozCardsFanSF on Oct 31, 2006 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
Boxing Day sucks.
Cheers

by Alxfritz on Oct 30, 2006 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I got that feeling
less than 10 minutes after Wainwright's last pitch.  :'(

by glamberson on Oct 30, 2006 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As Tony Kornheiser often relates:
"In the immortal words of the World Champion Washington Bullets; 'they can't ever take this away from us'.  Who want's to take it away from you?  Is there someone out there going around stealing World Championships?"
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 30, 2006 4:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Some other thoughts...

  • After pointing out Oquendo's interviewing for managing jobs this morning, I hopped in the car and drove the 80 miles to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch's main office to buy 2 newspapers for $3.00 apiece (the Stadium-only edition and the EXTRA edition), then bought my 2006 WS Champs shirt at the Stadium shop and drove back home. (I couldn't make it all weekend.) How nuts is that?
  • I was also glad to see He-Who-Shall-Remain-Nameless pitcher being gracious and smiling and everything at the parade. Also, I have several bets on with people that he will be whining in a P-D article before week's end about his not being on the roster or being played. If I'm wrong, it's gonna hurt in the pocketbook. However, I expect to make out like the Marquis de Sade.
  • I actually missed entirely that Encarnacion wasn't there. It's shocking that he wasn't. I don't know to be more shocked about his absence or Tony's telling his theory as to why he wasn't there (especially knowing he'd be crucified by media and fans if the reason given turns out to be correct). If HE starts whining, I will withdraw my support for him that has been there ALL season and say, TRADE HIS ASS.
  • Mike Shannon's comments that he expects Tony will leave now are suspect in my eyes. I think Shannon secretly works against Tony, and I don't like it one bit. Also, the St. Louis media's repetition of the speculation after Tony has said those comments are 100% WRONG shows how completely inept most of them are. Try reporting for a change, you spoon-fed, couldn't-find-a-story-in-a-bookstore idiots.
  • Having now seen Randy Flores up close and personal, I sooo confirm he's the absolute hottest one on the team. Dang, Randy!

by glamberson on Oct 30, 2006 4:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

larussa
do you think the way that larussa managed in this postseason will carryover to other postseasons where the cards are the favorite? i sure hope so

by truemun12 on Oct 30, 2006 5:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting point
I like coasting into the playoffs more than the stress we faced this year but baseball prospectus pointed out that the team with the worse record has one more World Series recently than the team w/ the better record.  Weird.  Maybe it's not just Tony who has trouble managing a "better" team in the postseason.  Let's face it.  Torre, Leyland, and Bochy all had the same trouble this year.

by chuckb on Oct 30, 2006 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good regular season teams are balanced
they have five good starters, and a bunch of interchangeable bench parts.  It helps them live through the grind of the regular season.

Good postseason teams are very topheavy--they have one or two great starters, a couple of excellent sluggers, and a shutdown 'pen.  Everyone else can be a defensive specialist that just eecks out a couplea runs.  The seven (and especially five) game postseason format just doesn't emphasize the same things that makes a regular season team great.  One of the reasons past Cardinal teams have been so disappointing is that their pitching depth, especially their fifth starter, were wholly useless.

They got shut down by the big three in 1996
Then by Al Leiter and Hampton in 2000
Then by Randy Johnson and Schilling in 2001
Then by Schmidt and Reuter in 2002
and in '05, they couldn't hit the Astros' rotation at all.

In each instance, they faced a shallower team with a frontloaded rotation that managed to win three or four games in the series on the backs of two very good starters.  This year, Carp, Weaver and Suppan did it to the other teams, and we got to dump our loose baggage.

Go back to a two division format, make the CS seven games, and make the World Series nine games.

I guarantee you that you'll see the better regular season team win more often.

by Valatan on Oct 30, 2006 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But hey if you really want the best team
Just go back to the pre-division format.  Lump the teams in each leagues into one division and have a simple best of 7 or best of 9 to sort out the AL versus NL.

Better yet, do away with the divisions and leagues and let everybody scrap it out in the regular season.

sigh  I don't think there is anything wrong with the basic current format as long as everyone is aware of the rules ahead of time (unlike say... 1981).

by Zubin on Oct 30, 2006 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm... I am unsure why
but I kind of like it.  I guess to me it is a balancing for weaker divisions.  That is teams in tougher divisions (e.g. Boston in '04 or '05) still have a chance to make the post-season despite the $200 million gorilla.

by Zubin on Oct 30, 2006 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really do like it
Just as an example, this year the Tigers really deserved to be in the playoffs but got caught by a really strong Twins team.  They were certainly one of the best 2 teams in the AL, they just got caught in the wrong division.

I do like the WC but in my opinion, the unbalanced schedule is really an albatross.  The competition now is more likely to be between teams in different divisions -- the Padres and Phillies this year or the Astros and Phillies last year.  Therefore, the unbalanced schedule can unfairly affect who wins the wild card.    If we evened out the schedule, you create a fairer competition between teams competing for the Wild Card.  Usually, the Wild Card team is one of the best teams in the league and isn't in the playoffs as a fluke.  Usually they're very good teams caught in very tough divisions as the Tigers were this year and the Astros were in the past 2 years (w/ the best team in the league).

by chuckb on Oct 30, 2006 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that
if you have a wild card, the unbalanced schedule is extremely rediculous.

Not to mention, that I get really, really sick of Cards-Brewers matchups around September

by Valatan on Oct 30, 2006 8:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wild Card Alternatives
I have seen several proposals regarding reforming the Wild Card process that basically go at it from the perspective of making things harder for the Wild Card team.  Why (with the exception of home field advantage and seeding) should the WC team be on equal footing with the division winners?  Have two WC teams in each league and make them play a one-game playoff (and presumably use their best pitchers) the day after the season ends.  The winner of that one-game playoff then goes on to play the division winner with the best record.

by holden on Oct 31, 2006 8:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wild Card
I actually prefer something more simple - take away 1 home game in each series from the Wild Card.  The LDS would become a 4 and 1 instead of 3 and 2, the LCS would become a 5 and 2 instead of a 4 and 3, and the World Series would....be complicated by the whole home field AS game thing.

by Robb on Oct 31, 2006 9:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wild Card
The problem with fixing the wild card is that there are always two cases that people don't like:

Case 1
One of the divisions is incredibly weak (like the NL Central this year or the NL West in 2005).  In this case, the wild card actually makes sure a stronger team from another division should make it into the playoffs.

In this case does it make sense to give any punishment to a better quality team that just happens to be in a tougher division?

Case 2
Most of the division winners all have about the same number of wins, the wild card on the other hand squeaks in with a relatively bad record.

This is the scenario we commonly think of when we go to make things more difficult for the wild card.  Here people say this average team should have everything made harder for it to make up for the fact that it's in the playoffs.

What actually usually happens
The usual scenario though is that the wild card team tends to have the same number of wins as 2 out of 3 of the division winners with one team in the division of the wild card running away with it or just 4 teams that all have basically the same record.

In these cases, it seems that doing things to punish the wild card seem inappropriate or unnecessary in my book.

I'm happy with the way it is I guess.  I mean, you have to admit it's exciting and nice to not have .500 teams dumping their players at the trade deadline every year.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 31, 2006 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Case 1
is why I hate the three-divisional format.

Three divisional format + wild card almost guarantees that you are going to have a weak regular season team in the playoffs

by Valatan on Oct 31, 2006 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

3 Divisions
I agree -- strike the 3 division format and go back to two.  You could even still have Wild Cards -- just do two per league, with no requirement that they come from separate divisions (East and West).  Basically the West and East winners would each get automatic bids and the next two teams with best records would get Wild Cards.

Also, though, let's not forget that there were some bad teams that made the playoffs even in the two division format -- the '87 Twins would have finished 5th in the AL East.

by holden on Oct 31, 2006 11:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be curious to see
if the "kinder, gentler" La Russa stays that way next season, or if he reverts to the old "everyone is trying to steal my signs" TLR.

by cardsrul on Oct 30, 2006 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Help
Is there a way to email Larry Borowsky?  Or just post a question for him to a thread?  I'm new here, any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!

by TantoVanLanstrum on Oct 30, 2006 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

e-mail me at
vivaelbirdos@yahoo.com

by lboros on Oct 30, 2006 6:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the best blog out there
bar none.  A hearty thanks, lboros, and enjoy the title all you happy Cards fans like myself.

Question on something I just noticed from the pictures of the rally.  Does Edmonds have a DK 57 tattoo on his right wrist?  I've never noticed that before.  

by Zack Morris on Oct 30, 2006 6:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

See yesterday's thread
someone else commented on this.  My guess is that it is temporary as I never saw it before.

by Zubin on Oct 30, 2006 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was mentioned in an interview
commemorating DK's passing, I think earlier this year.  He had it done not long after DK's death.  Edmonds said that he did it so he'd never forget his friend, and by putting it there he'd see it basically every time he put on his glove or picked up a bat.

by wildman on Oct 30, 2006 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a good pic of it
taken on team photo day before the '05 season...

"We came, we saw, WE KICKED IT'S ASS!!"

by iron duke75 on Oct 31, 2006 6:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tossing this one out there
I know this is guaranteed to get a chuckle, and I'm starting to wonder if I'm crazy for thinking it's a good idea: but what about Kip Wells for a #5?  

He just seems like a guy that is made from that tried and true stamp of Duncan-reclamation project i.e. good stuff, very high GB/FB ratio but hasn't figured the elusive "it" out.  He's coming off an absolutely brutal season which on the flip side means he is cheap as can be.  He had a very good season as recently as 2003 and I think he'd make a low risk (1.5 mil plus big incentives?) high reward pitcher.  If for nothing else, put him in there in the time that it takes Mulder to get back into the rotation and then as a safety net.

That could give us 4 starters for about 10 million lumping Mulder/Wells into one.  That gives us the flexibility to go out and either fix our holes at 2B/platoon LF/CF or pursue one of the big time FA pitchers.  Maybe even some of both.

Pujols > God

by joker24 on Oct 30, 2006 7:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm okay with the Kip Wells type signing
if there is only ONE Kip Wells type signing.  I don't want us to sign 3 mediocre pitchers to 3/21 deals because we don't want to move Wainwright into the rotation or sign some lesser pitchers with an ace.
Acquire Jason Schmidt!

by azruavatar on Oct 31, 2006 2:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

national media
If the Mets and Yankees had played in the World Series and the pitchers had committed numerous errors like that it would have been treated as the unique event that it was. It would have been used to promote the sport, 'hey, look how wacky this series is, this has never happened before.' Instead it was an excuse to bash the series between two clubs the coasts don't care about (and who beat the New York teams), and take credit away from the 83 win Cards.

Anyway, on to the serious stuff. Who was the last World Series winner to have five rookies on the postseason roster? With young talent and a veteran core of Pujols, Carpenter, and Rolen (assuming he doesn't run into anything or anybody) this team should be just as competitve for the remainder of the decade as it was the last few years.

by AL on Oct 30, 2006 7:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re:
Rolen (assuming he doesn't run into anything or anybody)

C'mon...What would a baseball season be without Rolen playing chicken with another player? ;)

by cardsrul on Oct 30, 2006 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah...
I cringed when he slammed into Brandon Inge when he came around 3B in game 1.

Which reminds me of the Deadspin post which linked this song. I wanted to say "look out it's Brandon Inge!" in hope of averting another basepath collision disaster.

by lawman3842 on Oct 30, 2006 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Me, too
I thought, oh god, here we go again!  I think this time he saw it coming and was able to prepare for it.  He did a great job running into him and getting up and continuing toward the plate to guarantee that he got the obstruction call.

by chuckb on Oct 30, 2006 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Saw it coming?...
oh man....I think Scott took dead AIM on Inge in that instance...and a great heads up play it was too...

by Timbo02 on Oct 30, 2006 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's Crazy
Running into Inge put him at a disadvantage to score the run. He was watching the ball and didn't see Inge until he ran into him. If he hadn't run into him, he would have scored easily without the umpire's help.

by liam on Oct 31, 2006 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Free Agent Pitchers so far
American League             National League
Russ Ortiz, rhp;            Danys Baez, rhp;
David Riske, rhp            John Thomson, rhp;
J.C. Romero, lhp.           Kerry Wood, rhp.
Octavio Dotel, rhp;         Jason Johnson, rhp;
Gil Meche, rhp.             David Weathers, rhp
Adam Eaton, rhp;            Ray King, lhp;
Ted Lilly, lhp              Tom Martin, lhp.
Justin Speier, rhp.         Joe Borowski, rhp;
                            Matt Herges, rhp;
                            Brian Moehler, rhp.
                            Tomo Ohka, rhp
                            Orlando Hernandez,rhp
                            Steve Trachsel, rhp;
                            Aaron Fultz, lhp;
                            Arthur Rhodes, lhp;
                            Rick White, rhp
                            Randy Wolf, lhp.
                            Alan Embree, lhp;
                            Shawn Estes, lhp;
                            Rudy Seanez, rhp;
                            Steve Kline, lhp;
                            Jason Schmidt, rhp;
                            Mike Stanton, lhp.
                            Tony Armas Jr., rhp;
Here Comes the King! Here Comes the Big #1! Budweiser Beer the King is Second to None!

by OKCardsfan on Oct 30, 2006 7:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Watch Kerry Wood
go sign with the Giants and win a Cy Young.

That would make me laugh.

by Valatan on Oct 30, 2006 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

free agents
i know there are still more guys to file, but i see meche or lilly as good dunc projects, and wolf could be a good lefty if he is healthy, and of course who wouldnt want schmidt if he wasnt too high priced

by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 30, 2006 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'd like to see wolf as a Card
All that is pending what happens with Suppan and Weaver
Redbirds Fun
The Kentucky Democrat
Win it for JB and DK57

by cardsfan84 on Oct 30, 2006 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

correct
i meant to mention that myself, that the first choices, if the money is right, is suppan and weaver, and maybe even mulder if it is an incentive based contract, much like morris in 05'

by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 30, 2006 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

second thought
after reading about lilly and his health issues over at mlb trade rumors, i think i would back away from him permanently

by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 30, 2006 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rolen........
Would seriously disappoint me if he didn't run (hard) into someone.....maybe this time it will be in the stands, or the dugout steps, and he'll leave the other players alone.  Maybe he can get tangled up in Jeff Weaver's legs and arms.....

by jillsinmo on Oct 30, 2006 7:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and speaking of Jeff Weaver,,,
He only looks high sometimes.  He used to look like he needed to be on suicide watch....One little part of me wanted him to finish the game....I really would have liked to see him get mobbed....talk about bumps in the road-he really worked hard through the season didn't he.  Hat tip!

by jillsinmo on Oct 30, 2006 7:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anybody notice
Old Steve Kline on the FA list.

Sorry, Steve. We don't want you back!

by Red in Chicago on Oct 30, 2006 7:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

maybe not
but I do kinda miss having a "crazy" reliever... it's been weird this year without someone like Kline or Tavarez.

by madding on Oct 30, 2006 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't
Tavarez was a lunatic.   What do I mean "was"?  You never knew who you would get.  I don't mind having relievers who are a little odd but not those who karate chop other players and punch telephones or flip off the manager when he doesn't get the call.  Remember when the Cubs made it to the playoffs instead of us and Steve Kline said something like "I hope Mark Prior gets hit in the head with a batted ball"?  Kline hasn't gotten anybody out since a year before we got rid of him.  Plus, we already have Johnson, Flores, Rincon, and Narveson who could make the bullpen.  We don't need Kline's drama.

by chuckb on Oct 30, 2006 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh I don't mean I want either of them back
I just felt like I missed them having a crazy character in the pen this year for some reason.  I definitely don't think there were any really intimidating pitchers in the bullpen, which is nice to have, although the rookies began to make names for themselves in the playoffs.

by madding on Oct 30, 2006 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey there is a Joe Borowski...
Any relation LB?  Think we can get a family discount ;)

by Zubin on Oct 30, 2006 8:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Juan E and edmonds out
When Jimmy was out Juan was a toatally different OF diving for balls and mr hustle. Liek a man possessed. Then when JImmy gets back he reverts to the tip toed approach to shagging a ball.

I havent been hard on him and my wife pointed out he did do well against SD like belly then disapeared like belly. I was like at least belly can make good D plays.

I wouldt mind seeing them get a few OF for nezt yr or try some yougn guys

Kenny is a "dirt" bag?

by punchinjudy on Oct 30, 2006 8:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wingmen for Jimmy
Picking up the option on Edmonds and then picking up two new corner outfielders would be nice. At least give us a new right fielder that is a  true heart of the order hitter leaving Duncan in a platoon situation in LF with a solid right-handed bat. Hope that bat wouldn't be JuanE, but Cards are likely stuck with him.  
Baily

by Baily on Oct 30, 2006 11:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

juancion
i think we are basically stuck with him for the next two years, at 5m in 07, and 6.5m in 08, unless we pulled a tino, and paid someone to take him, i still wonder about that wrist issue, and whether he was hurt in the series, like everyone else i was wondering where he was for the parade

by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 30, 2006 11:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if this has been posted yet...
but Belly and Spezio have both filed for FA. I hope we keep Speez.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Oct 30, 2006 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

spiezio
he only had a one year contract.  the Cards have 15 days, i think, to work out a deal.
Redbirds Fun
The Kentucky Democrat
Win it for JB and DK57

by cardsfan84 on Oct 30, 2006 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually
with that new agreement, there is no timetable on re-signing your own free agents, the old either by jan 8 or not til may 1st is out, i dont THINK they even have to be offered arbitration anymore, like they used to, i think the whole deal here was to make it easier to keep your own free agents

by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 30, 2006 10:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right...
there's no more "either by November 15th or you can't sign with your old team till May 1st" deadline.

by cardsrul on Oct 30, 2006 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't mind seeing them both come back
Spiezio's versatility is an obvious plus, and Belliard's defense impressed me at times.  I think the latter could benefit from a full season in the NL at the plate... at least, I would hope so.  But how many 2Bs have we had over the years?

by madding on Oct 30, 2006 10:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kerry Wood?...
Talk about the ULTIMATE project for Duncan....hmm.....

by Timbo02 on Oct 30, 2006 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wood
Say what you want about Wood, but in my opinion, he's always been a fierce competitor.  I personally think he wouldn't be injured as often as he is if he hadn't been abused by Riggleman in '98, and then by Baker in '03.

I lived in Chicago from '96 to '03.  Wood was one of those guys that would get irritated when the team was losing, but Sosa was hitting home runs, so people were happy.  He wanted to win, and wasn't afraid to say it.

Wood is the kind of guy that would probably love to play for the Cubs rival, revitalize his career, and kill them head to head several times a year.

With that being said - I suspect some other team will be willing to overpay for him more than the Cards will.

by Robb on Oct 30, 2006 11:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wood
from what i have been reading he is expected to be a bullpen guy this year, not a starter, and that may be best for him, because as you said, he may have been abused earlier, and needs to be a short inning guy, he defintely has the stuff to be a closer, the only question would be the durability

by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 30, 2006 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I think Dunc could do a lot more with Wood than Larry Rothchild was capable of. The guy can't (or at least hasn't been able to) start--as mentioned above he's done after 50-60 pitches, but he could be a literally "lights out" closer. Anybody recall his 20-strikeout game? Wow. He has no problem going for the throat whenever he has the ball. And the Cards have almost always had great luck with ex-Cubs. Get somebody like Wood in shape to close, ease him in, and when Izzy is done next year, we have our man. This would also free up Wainer this year for starting. I like this idea the more I think about it, but unfortunately I think Robb may be correct--somebody else will be willing to pay more than us to try him. God, wouldn't that be yet another knife in the gut to Cubfans though? Ha.

by rockin redbird on Oct 31, 2006 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

David Eckstein on LENO
Thought I'd let you know.
Redbirds Fun
The Kentucky Democrat
Win it for JB and DK57

by cardsfan84 on Oct 30, 2006 11:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ChiSox keep Buehrle
Don't know if this has already been reported here, but local boy Mark Buehrle is staying with Chicago for another year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjDFW9nGSfNQqgaStwhUIFQ5nYcB?slug=ap-whitesoxmoves&prov=ap &type=lgns

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 31, 2006 12:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Also
They signed Dye and Iguchi.  Not that we were planning on getting either of them, but a quality RF and 2B are no longer out there.

by DuncanDipper on Oct 31, 2006 2:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN fired Harold Reynolds
guess they figured out he had nothing intelligent to say. now maybe they'll fire the rest of their baseball analysts

by jojo5492 on Oct 31, 2006 9:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

that was long ago
it was for sexual harassment and not at all related to the quality of the commentary.

by dontEATnachos on Oct 31, 2006 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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