World Series Game 4 overflow
not a work of art . . . but man i will take it. the cards did a lot of things right, tigers did a lot of things wrong --- with results as you would expect.
that's the cards' 5th come-from-behind win this postseason; their 4th from a deficit of 2 runs or more; and their 2d comeback from 3 runs down. they are 5 games over this postseason --- same number of games over they were during the 2006 regular season.
and they can win a world title tomorrow.
Update [2006-10-27 1:54:44 by Valatan]:: Fungoes breaks down the pitching matchups for the rest of the series. Let's hope that we're only looking at tomorrow.
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I've never seen a game like that!
by mdhoffm2 on Oct 27, 2006 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
amazing
i'm bouncing off the walls
by azruavatar on Oct 27, 2006 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eckstein could be MVP of this series
by cardsfan84 on Oct 27, 2006 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you're out in front of your skis -
by Urban Pawnee on Oct 27, 2006 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
I'm as happy as you could possibly believe but you don't want to count your chickens before they hatch. Especially with the way the past two St. Louis-Detroit World Series have gone.
by dontEATnachos on Oct 27, 2006 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An instant classic
by heathen on Oct 27, 2006 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7th i think
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Oct 27, 2006 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I mentioned in the game thread...
The Cardinals are just playing better and making plays when they need them. Detroit had their opportunities and blew them.
I would love to have seen how this would turn out if the Tigers were playing their best (or even somewhat well), but they left their mojo back in the ALCS.
by muldster on Oct 27, 2006 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We know what your feeling
by El Hombre on Oct 27, 2006 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...
by cardsrul on Oct 27, 2006 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will not be ashamed of the Tigers either
I must give props to the Cards pitching, though. Either they are doing stuff incredibly right or the Tigers have reverted to the "got swept by the Royals" team that finished the regular season.
by Mark on Oct 27, 2006 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game guys!
by Big Rev on Oct 27, 2006 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody watch the postgame
by El Hombre on Oct 27, 2006 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quality not great since

by Scarlet the Cardinal on Oct 27, 2006 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
its just fate
by Calhoun on Oct 27, 2006 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Period.
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 27, 2006 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow night will be filled with...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Oct 27, 2006 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey
by Calhoun on Oct 27, 2006 12:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game will be the first DVD
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cards Fans...
The Cardinals are doing everything they need to do to win these games and are very deserving of the position they are in. Obviously I'm disappointed in the W-L record for the Tigers this WS, but I must say that there isn't much I can say other than they are getting beat by a more prepared team both physically and mentally right now.
Of course I'll be rooting hard for 3 straight wins, but it's going to take a drastic change in about every facet of the game.
You guys have a great community here, keep up the good work to the writers and frequent contributors.
by Mark on Oct 27, 2006 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to all the great Tiger fans!
Great work on your blog, Mark!
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
I hope that there hasn't been any flaming going on around here from any Tigers fans, I haven't really read any of the past game threads or anything. If so, I'm sure that they've been put in their place based on where this series stands.
by Mark on Oct 27, 2006 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem with Tigers fans
by Valatan on Oct 27, 2006 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, yes, Chicago
by Mark on Oct 27, 2006 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, let's pat ourselves on the back ...
For that, the rest of the baseball world thanks us.
by Urban Pawnee on Oct 27, 2006 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FOX and ESPN Don't...
by Mark on Oct 27, 2006 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by chance
The answer is infallibly...NO
by Pujols for MVP on Oct 27, 2006 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just want to give
by cardsrul on Oct 27, 2006 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PDub
by hawaiifan on Oct 27, 2006 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not meaning
by cjwest20 on Oct 27, 2006 12:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
from the start of the season
by cardsfan84 on Oct 27, 2006 12:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I say that every year
by texbird on Oct 27, 2006 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Champagne
by chuckb on Oct 27, 2006 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You gotta admit
by Calhoun on Oct 27, 2006 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Soup rocks
I hope he's around next season.
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its gonna be hard.....
by Calhoun on Oct 27, 2006 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I say let him go
by stlnd on Oct 27, 2006 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
I'd really like to see one more and if I have to see Scooter again to get it, I guess I can deal.
by dontEATnachos on Oct 27, 2006 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secret Sauce
Coming in to the playoffs, we were the weakest of the playoff teams by this formula, mostly b/c we were 2nd to last in baseball in K/9 and had Izzy as our closer for most of the year. Who would have predicted we'd be in this position w/ our rotation and a closer w/ what, 3 career saves? Minnesota was ranked 1st overall and the Mets (w/ Pedro and El Duque) were 1st in the NL. It seems to have gotten all backwards this postseason. It also seems as though our experience is really paying off and the Tigers' youth has really been a detriment (to this point). Maybe it'll make for interesting discussion.
by chuckb on Oct 27, 2006 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the cards are striking guys out now
they rebuilt their pitching staff to feature their strikeout pitchers, and they've gotten 1/3 of their starts from their best strikeout pitcher (carpenter). they've gotten 0 innings from jason marquis, who doesn't strike people out; most of the bullpen innings have gone to their best k/9 guys (wainwright kinney johnson).
by lboros on Oct 27, 2006 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I admit...
by 1985kid on Oct 27, 2006 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Props to P-Dub -
TONIGHT, if not for a certain diminutive shortstop, would have been his night. I know he amassed 150 ribbies one year in Denver, but he'd cash em all in for that one, sweet, go-ahead single in the 7th inning. Beyond huge against flamethrower Rodney.
And some great leather in left as well.
Let's all tip our caps!
by Urban Pawnee on Oct 27, 2006 12:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game 4 WS Simulation...
by Big Rev on Oct 27, 2006 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow one post questioning
by wrongallyear2 on Oct 27, 2006 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
robdouth
by lboros on Oct 27, 2006 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still
by ownersowedapology on Oct 27, 2006 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lboros
by lookit55 on Oct 27, 2006 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all this talk by fox and ESPN
by punchinjudy on Oct 27, 2006 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Both this year and last year they've scored over half their runs via the long ball. Plus, they play in a hitters park.
by Big Red on Oct 27, 2006 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did someone take down
by ilillillli on Oct 27, 2006 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i took it down
by lboros on Oct 27, 2006 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
robdouth
by TheFranchise9 on Oct 27, 2006 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would
by chuckb on Oct 27, 2006 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Simulator said game was a toss up
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 27, 2006 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you and those simulators
by punchinjudy on Oct 27, 2006 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me either
by chuckb on Oct 27, 2006 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game 5 sim is running right now
After the first 50 games it has both teams with exactly a 50% chance of winning. Will report back after all 1000 sim games are in. vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 27, 2006 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty incredible
by cmat on Oct 27, 2006 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the baseball gods got a new shipment
by MdRedbirdFreak on Oct 27, 2006 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the baseball gods
Wonder if all this good baseball karma comes from TLR's sudden streak of common sense in his approach to the pitchers (banishing Who Shall Not Be Named, promoting the rookies) in late September....the baseball gods have to love that.
by nota bene on Oct 27, 2006 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
by dontEATnachos on Oct 27, 2006 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be a stinker, but...
"Bad plays make slightly-less-bad team lose to bad team in bad game with bad weather."
anyone?
I'm sorry, I'll stop.
by ilillillli on Oct 27, 2006 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
already doing it on
by punchinjudy on Oct 27, 2006 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they did ...
by Urban Pawnee on Oct 27, 2006 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe
by bostoncardsfan on Oct 27, 2006 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
weather???
looking at radar, i think that the game will be played
but i live in jersey so what do i know
by Matty I on Oct 27, 2006 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not great, but youkneverknow.
by ilillillli on Oct 27, 2006 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
weather
by Calhoun on Oct 27, 2006 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stan will be throwing out the first pitch
Good karma all around.
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's celebrate tomorrow night
by chuckb on Oct 27, 2006 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my heart, my stomach, my CARDINALS
I had a sick feeling, all day. Too much waiting around, too much Soup hype.
Soup starts off shaky, the 0-34 dudes start whacking the ball around
We start chipping away, Soup just gears down and GRINDS through six
I called the wild throw on So's bunt -- on the WRONG THREAD!!! -- and we surge ahead
Then Blooper has a bad couple of hitters, AWesome comes in and Inge hits it farther than he EVER has - can't blame JEdward for that one.
The AWeswome strikes out the last two, and I'm thinking Pujols in the 9th, but Eck finds the loose lace in their OF's glove
and AWesome just ICES 'em down in the 9th
I couldn't breathe from the 6th inning on. Couldn't sit down. Couldn't talk. Couldn't laugh/cry. Clenched my fists (and toes) for the last hour and a half.
UN - BE -- FLIPPING -- LIEVABLE
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 27, 2006 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the problem...
with a 2 games to 1 series advantage, playing at home, I just don't think the game was quite big enough for Suppan. The prima donna. I can just picture him now.
"Jeff Suppan doesn't pitch unless Jeff Suppan's back is against the wall. Detroit's a small market." --Jeff Suppan
Kudos to Tony for leaving him in there in the 5th, letting him finnish what could likely be his last start as a cardinal with an out, rather than a mid-inning substitution.
by ilillillli on Oct 27, 2006 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan, Pujols, Edmonds
I believe.
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you believe -
by Urban Pawnee on Oct 27, 2006 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
If they become World Champions, it will be a collective team win. Great pitching...fantastic hitting with 2 outs and RISP...the right managerial moves.
This would be an organizational win. If/when they win the 4th game. I just hope it's tomorrow night.
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to even BEGIN to figure ...
by Urban Pawnee on Oct 27, 2006 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols...
How bad is it that I was sitting there in the bottom of the 8th thinking... now ... we just need another error by the tiger's pitcher.
by redbird2006in on Oct 27, 2006 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's Pujols' OBP for the series?
by nota bene on Oct 27, 2006 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
412
by SleepyCA on Oct 27, 2006 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more....
by birdsonthehat on Oct 27, 2006 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just heard on KTRS
by cardsrul on Oct 27, 2006 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Having seen 3-1 series leads horribly disappear -
in '85
in '96
I'm just trying not to get too high TONIGHT, as sweet as this victory is. There's still work to be done. And while it does appear that the Tigers are a little psyched out, they are a team that can win three in a row.
Signed,
Mr. Wet Blanket
by Urban Pawnee on Oct 27, 2006 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say it
i could really see this series going 7 games. but i don't think the tigers make it past their own verlander, and our weaver, reyes, and Carpenter.
by ilillillli on Oct 27, 2006 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good night
Let's do it again tomorrow night...hopefully.
I hope I can sleep...how will I work tomorrow?
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 27, 2006 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Regular Season
by rockin redbird on Oct 27, 2006 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hi, my name is....
The most monotone mother f'er in the land.
Granted his job is FAR from easy, but does this guy have a freakin pulse?
I kid I kid
by Pujols for MVP on Oct 27, 2006 1:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
see you later
To the guys from BYB, thanks for a great series, win or lose. You all had a great season, irregardless. You knocked off the Yankees of all teams!
by cardsfan84 on Oct 27, 2006 1:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Simulator: Cardinals Game 5 Win Expectancy 51.37%
View Simulator Results
by Xeifrank on Oct 27, 2006 1:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a serious question....
Wouldn't it have made more sense to have Edmonds bunt and move the runners to 2nd and 3rd? I realize Edmonds has been hitting pretty well in the Series, but you have a much hotter Rolen behind him, and also a chance for a hotter Molina behind him and a few others.
I just found it odd they let Edmonds swing away. I have seen very few big at bats turn out positive when Edmonds is up in the playoffs.
Thoughts?
p.s. if they did have edmonds bunt, so scores easily, pujols might stop at 3rd, and Molina is up......
by Ltrain on Oct 27, 2006 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no bunt
by Xeifrank on Oct 27, 2006 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't usually bunt
by nota bene on Oct 27, 2006 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and as an FYI
There. I said it.
Good night and win one for Jack and DK.
by cardsfan84 on Oct 27, 2006 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Spiezio, Belly and Juan
We've had big stuff from Eck, Gooch, Preston, Yadi, Albert, Jimmy, Scotty, Miles, Duncan.
The only guys who haven't really contributed offensively are Spiezio, Belliard, Juan and Bennett.
Ah well, just win.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 27, 2006 2:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just a prediction-
The beauty of this postseason is how they've done it as a team-after relying on a few players all year, they've received big contributions from almost everyone. It's amazing.
God, I can't wait until tomorrow night. MUST FORCE SELF TO GET BACK TO WORK...
by matt reeder on Oct 27, 2006 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's little, but he just keeps a chuggin'
and I don't mean the rain,
but I knew things would turn out just fine.
Cause I've been to the Zoo
and I've seen the train,
but I ain't seen nothin like Eckstein!!
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 27, 2006 2:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I missed most of the game,
by Zubin on Oct 27, 2006 2:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Coming late to the afterparty
I kept The 26th Girl up way past her bedtime with all my hooting and hollering. She was yelling down from her bedroom for me to knock it off.
The 26th Boy was sawing logs no problem, tho.
We can do this, folks. Believe.
by 26thMan on Oct 27, 2006 2:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Gods
At the NOAA website, the midnight post shows heavy rain moving outta the area in the afternoon.
Gametime should be mostly cloudy, very windy, and 41 degrees.
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 27, 2006 3:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let it forever be remembered.....
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 27, 2006 3:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Duncan
Not sure if that was already pointed out, but he's always worth listening to. He wrote of Craig Monroe and Juan Encarnacion in the past few days as well.
by liam on Oct 27, 2006 3:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
i wanna win tomorrow night, for us all, for old people in the stands, for all the idiots (self included) spending more money than they have on tickets, for jimmy edmonds, the rookie pen, lboros, red, stan, brock and gibby, mike shannon, joe buck, billy bo thornton, tony la russa, all the hot slutty girls wearing red that were dancing on the stage at al hrabowskis tonight, dk57 and because i will be there, biting my nails, hanging on every pitch, dancing the the left field bleachers.......please let us win, our fans everywhere want it so bad....lets go 83 win cards....albert tomorrow, big and legendary
to make you laugh, dusty baker came into the centerfield pisser, when he was recognized, a chant of "dusty sucks" took over the mens room, pretty funny, though i think dusty isnt all bad
by MississippiCardMan on Oct 27, 2006 3:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PS
So Adam won Looper-style--a blown save wiped out by a comeback. Looper had I think 9 wins this year, and how many of them were following blown saves?
Anyway....AW still got 5 outs in a row, so hey.
by nota bene on Oct 27, 2006 4:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I cannot comprehend what I am seeing.
Tonights game was not played as well as most games they played so far in October. SUP just didn't have his A game. But just like SUP, he did not give in. He could have given up 7or8 runs easily tonight. But he did not. He bore down and held the damage to the bare minimun till the offence played catch up. And oh how they caught up. Doubles by a always hustling Scotty Rolen. And a rip past the diving 3rd baseman for YADDA YADDA YADDA. Seriously YADDA is killing the ball. Finally his hard hits are finding the holes that eluded him all season. A rutine fly ball to center that the wet turf somehow tuned into a double. Another wild throw by a young pitcher trying too hard to make a perfect play. A unlikly base hit from a player left for dead on the waver wire. And then again one inning later after the bullpen bent, but did not break, a part timer who has allready looked death in the face, and death blinked, beat out a sure rally killing double play. And then, the smallest man on the field once agin steped to the plate and showed the world just how big time he really is by grabing destiny by the throat once again and claiming it as his birthright. Shorted up with his pesky swing, and shot a rocket to left center. That on any other night would have been just a loud out. But on this night, this fatefull night, it too foud green salavation in the wet outfield grass. Just out of reach of a diving for his life leftfielder. And then our newest star continued his march to immortality by disposing of the high power detroit middle of the order batters.
Yes folks, this truly is a Red October Miracle. There is simply no other plausible explination for the level of play this team is at right now. All the right breaks are falling for this team. All the right moves are being made by Tony. It seams like finally the worm has turned for our beloved Cardinals. And now, under the brightest lights, our team is the shining star. All glory and praise should be given to the Almight GOD. Because this is truly his handy work.
THANK
YOU
GOD
But tomorrow is a new day. The tigers will not go down without a fight. Leyland knows us all to well. He will not allow his team to loose without first throwing everything they have at our Cardinals. Verlander is a hard throwing, take no prisoners, young, wet behind the ears pitcher. He can carve up our lineup faster than a fat guy carves a turkey on Turkey Day. Their lineup is filled with bats that at any given moment can put up crooked number and crooked number. Dream Weaver has his work cut out for him. Odds once again our not in his favor. He is pitching at home, against a power hitting aggressive team. In order to win he needs to have pinpoint accuracy, and control of all his pitches. Move the ball in and out from the hitters. Keep them guesssing and off balance. If he can do that, and our hitters can rattle young Verlander early. The corks will be a poppin in the grand ol'e town of St. Louis, and all over Cardinal nation tomorrow night. But if not, if our bats go silent once again. If Dream Weaver has a relapse. We head to cold detroit, were are championship winning hopes lay on the equally young, but capable shoulders of one Anthony Reyes. Facing a dirty foe who they call kenny rogers. A soft tossing lefty pitcher if there ever was one. Capable of cutting threw are lineup like a knife threw butter.
But what it comes down to now is, our guys have put themselves in a heck of a good spot. Up 3 games to 1. Playing at home. With all the muched hyped Momentum. With a chance to close out one of the more improable WS championships EVER. And that is as great of a spot as any team could ever hope for.
I do not believe what I am seeing. It defies all known logic. It proves all the experts wrong. It's stunning in it's simplicity. One more win for the ultimate prize. One more win for greatness. One more win. That's all any of us could ever,EVER hope for. One more win is all everyone one of us is asking for.
After 24 heartbreaking years, sweet glorious victory is within reach. But we have all been here many times before. We know what can happen. Most of us have seen what can go wrong from here on out. Victory is not yet ours. The long hard fight is not over. There lies before us a minefield filled with bloop hits, untimely strike outs, too many runners left on base. And bone crushing heart breaking losses. Or sweet glorious VICTORY. It is ours for the taking. Can they do it? Will a miracle happen tomorrow night? Will destiny be ours? Are they up to the challenge? Can they finish the fight and make all theirs, and ours dream come true? Are they ready?
Are you ready?
As the legen himself once said,
"We'll see you, tomorrow night."
Good night VEB.
Go get'em guys.
Keep making us all so very proud to say we are St. Louis Cardinals Fans.
Go down swinging.
And most importantly,
GO CARDINALS
by gdm426 on Oct 27, 2006 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the lack of respect continues...
However, I will admit that this is an interesting tidbit from the article (though written before last night):
"The Cardinals are outhitting the Tigers .196 to .185 through three games."
by lostraven on Oct 27, 2006 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That dude is a shithead
His bias is obvious. His point is tired. The thing that irritates me is the unabashed effort to ridicule anything that isn't about NY. He essentially says he dislikes everything about the Midwest.
It seems that if the national isn't really that interested in the series for what it is.
They want to spin the series into a soap opera, and get their drama fix.
The truth is that these two teams are truly teams. They don't seek the spotlight or other undeserved attention. They're simply trying to be the best at their sport and quietly doing it the right way.
by _pistol_ on Oct 27, 2006 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
while i cant
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