World Series Game Four Open Thread
Update [2006-10-25 22:33:45 by Valatan]:: No game tonight. Postponed by rain. I assume this means no travel day on Friday. I can't see Leyland wanting to move up Verlander, and I really can't see Tony wanting to go with anyone but Suppan.

suppan bonderman
12-7, 4.12 14-8, 4.08
Jeremy Bonderman is the type of pitcher that absolutely gives the Cardinals fits--namely a young player that has been historically shaky, but with a history of throwing the occasional gem. The Cardinals have seen him before, and he had quite the good game--seven innings, one run, eight strikeouts. On the plus side, despite being a rookie, he's not of the soft tossing lefty variety. He is a right hander, with a pretty extreme platoon split, too--LH batters hit him significantly harder than righties--his OPS allowed (.822) is 200 points higher against lefties, and there's a general correlation across the rest of his stats, and therefore, La Russa has opted for the following lineup:
| DETROIT | ST. LOUIS |
| Granderson cf | Eckstein ss |
| Monroe lf | Duncan rf |
| Guillen ss | Albert 1b |
| Ordonez rf | Edmonds cf |
| Casey 1b | Rolen 3b |
| Rodriguez c | Wilson lf |
| Polanco 2b | Molina c |
| Inge 3b | Miles 2b |
| Bonderman p | Suppan p |
It's great to see the Albert/Jimmy/Rolen trifecta lined up one after another once again in the lineup. It seems like it's been ages since that has happened. Belliard not getting the start kind of confused me until I realised that, in his career Aaron Miles is three for six with a HR against Bonderman, while Belliard is three for twenty one with no extra base hits. A very Tony decision.
It's still kinda amazing to me to say that this team is up in the World Series. A win tonight means that they have a chance to try and win the whole thing at home, in perhaps the most fashionable way possible of bringing in a new ballpark.
We might still rain out, but myself, I'm ready to see some baseball. Go get 'em, guys. Two more. Please, two more wins.
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Explain to me what you did there
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nevermind
Must simply be defense.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson is gonna do some serious
by azruavatar on Oct 25, 2006 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we might
by Birds on the Matt on Oct 25, 2006 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you could move him around in the field
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd start Rodriguez
by rob is back on Oct 25, 2006 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why isn't J-Rod starting?
and I wouldn't say that Wilson is a good fielder (just not as bad as the alternatives) so why bring him in? Don't the numbers say that he should go 0 for 3 with 3 K's???
That being said he'll go 4 for 4 with 2 HRs and be the player of the game...and the Chevy most dependible player if he is lucky.
by Harknights on Oct 25, 2006 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Punishment
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 25, 2006 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely...
Can't say I disagree...
by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2006 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that TLR doesn't want two mediocre
by Zubin on Oct 25, 2006 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm guessing he thinks more balls
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what i meant
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drizzzzzzle
heavier rain come in, pause the starters early,
and cause issues with them coming back on a damp,
rather cool evening. There's another small batch of rain moving in in the next hour or so. I would
imagine they'll try to get this game in tonight.
by lostraven on Oct 25, 2006 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keith Hernandez Seinfield is on
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 25, 2006 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Part 2 is on the Cincy affiliate.
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was Roger McDowell
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 25, 2006 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd sell em
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SELL
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 25, 2006 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sell
In regards to scalping, Its just a free market so let it be. In Clevland they have a special spot in front of the stadium where people can sell the tickets at any price.
by DimitroffVodka on Oct 25, 2006 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, duh
by SleepyCA on Oct 25, 2006 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny how no one thinks they should go
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reality.
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 25, 2006 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really...
by effin fisk on Oct 25, 2006 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like
by themarquee on Oct 25, 2006 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which of these teams has the advantage in the rain
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"his mudder was a mudder"
by azruavatar on Oct 25, 2006 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
spezio
by herr28 on Oct 25, 2006 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i've got the feeling this is the game
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i said that last game
i'm there tomorrow and i want to break out the bubbly
by effin fisk on Oct 25, 2006 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think your full of shit
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 25, 2006 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if detroit wins tonight
i don't expect suppan to be lights out, but i do expect him to be solid, good enough to give us a chance. i think detroit's gonna do a bit more offensively with the revamped lineup. i think it's going to be a bullpen deal tonight, although this is all bullshit.
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
That can go either way you can say well they avoided disaster and thats what a champ does, or say well they averted disaster but next time it might be terrible.
Not particuraly(SP) siked about this game given all the hype, but hoepfuly soup delivers and not spoils.
by punchinjudy on Oct 25, 2006 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7:19 CT
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 25, 2006 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great googly moogly no
by erik on Oct 25, 2006 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
zalasko
by madding on Oct 25, 2006 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eww
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 25, 2006 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or what
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 25, 2006 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy cripes...
by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2006 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
http://www.benotafraidweb.org/15778.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*
by SleepyCA on Oct 25, 2006 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fascinating..
by guayzimi on Oct 25, 2006 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
billy ray cyrus
by erik on Oct 25, 2006 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
detroit has us beat on the music
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where's Chuck Berry?
by chuckb on Oct 25, 2006 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's official
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 25, 2006 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
by DimitroffVodka on Oct 25, 2006 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds good
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 25, 2006 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie says it is delayed an hour.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This has become our good luck charm
I wanted to win that pennant worse thanI wanted any goddamned thing in my life.
You''d think I couldjust this once, wouldn''t you?
I didn''t care nothingabout the Series.Win or lose,I would have been satisfied.
I''d have walked away from baseballand I''d have bought a farm.Nothing like a farm.
Nothing like being around animals,fixing things. There's nothing like being in the field with the corn and the winter wheat.The greenest stuff you ever saw.
You know, my mother told me I ought to be a farmer. My dad wanted me to be a baseball player.
You're better than anyone I ever had. And you're the best goddamned hitter I ever saw.
Suit up.
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what is that, the natural
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
by effin fisk on Oct 25, 2006 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Virtually all of Malamud's works are...
by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 25, 2006 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haven't read the rest of his stuff.
by effin fisk on Oct 25, 2006 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suggest you read "The Fixer" ...
There are those that think Ted Williams was the inspiration for Hobbs (at least to some extent---there actually was a major league player who was stalked and shot by a crazed female but I forget his name)both wore #9 and missed significant years of playing ball. Of course in the end Hobbs didn't hit a HR in his last at bat---only in the movies.
by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 25, 2006 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we start with Joe Buck for a change
Hey, there's a pumpkin.
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Title.
A documentary about Detroit?
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 25, 2006 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FOX tv
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 25, 2006 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god, how bout something related to baseball
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
better take a nap boys
Radio guys said the teams were told to "be prepared to stay very late."
yawn
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fox must be pissed.
by effin fisk on Oct 25, 2006 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heres hoping for a win
by punchinjudy on Oct 25, 2006 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why don't everybody
let's do it.
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone in St. Louis...
Also, what does "Evident the Wash" mean?
by muldster on Oct 25, 2006 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
an hour maybe
regardless, first pitch wasn't until 8:30 anyway
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this might help
or more specifically,
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/comments/2006/10/22/233021/36/60#60
by SleepyCA on Oct 25, 2006 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ask not for whom the bell tolls, cowboy
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Buck says as of the moment I'm typing this
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How does FOX show The War at Home?
I mean, I chuckle at the show but I'm sure a rerun of the Simpsons or even Family Guy would have been alittle tamer than this.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While the game is delayed, FOX will bring you
by texbird on Oct 25, 2006 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was kind of wondering the same thing
by punchinjudy on Oct 25, 2006 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
by STLCardinalsFan on Oct 25, 2006 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm jonah
by erik on Oct 25, 2006 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
worst thing fox could have done
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
talk about killing the suspense
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a few more minutes til pregame, i hope.
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else starting to lose their mind
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the war at home?
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's this magazine
by cardsrul on Oct 25, 2006 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Criminal Minds
This is the 3rd episode of War at Home already.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i usually watch that
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walt says rain stops in half hour
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding me
play the game already
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No...
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like
by cardsrul on Oct 25, 2006 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Buck can
by effin fisk on Oct 25, 2006 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
much better than
by effin fisk on Oct 25, 2006 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valatan
by aet15 on Oct 25, 2006 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ten more minutes per Joe.
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the new Cardinals version of
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where is it
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just kidding
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the new mets one is online
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is on iTunes
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THAT is funny
by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 25, 2006 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know
by DimitroffVodka on Oct 25, 2006 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So is the world series going
by punchinjudy on Oct 25, 2006 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
guess what
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan in right...
Also, I don't think Wilson's defense is bad by any means. He made a great throw in Game 3 of the NLCS to get Valentin at second. I like P-Dub. Yes, he strikes out a lot and has a low OBP, but he has still had some big hits in the post season and scored a lot of runs. Not expecting miracles from him tonight, but as they say, maybe he'll run into one. He's due for a HR at some point.
Fingers crossed...
by fandomismasochism on Oct 25, 2006 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Breakfast Club is on E!
by Mr Redbird on Oct 25, 2006 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Commissioner Selig,
by DCGreg on Oct 25, 2006 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Selig has received your message
by texbird on Oct 25, 2006 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll get to it
by chuckb on Oct 25, 2006 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, joe gave us an update
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the radar
by DCGreg on Oct 25, 2006 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This system
by cardsrul on Oct 25, 2006 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anybody listening to Cardinals network?
Freaking hilarious - fall on the floor, wet your pants funny
Sutcliffe tells his famous "fireworks" story from Cincy - funniest thing I've ever heard
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those rain clouds are using pine-tar!
by texbird on Oct 25, 2006 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
45 more minutes
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my vcr is programmed
by madding on Oct 25, 2006 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD SHE TOLD HILLARY SHE COULD GO!
by texbird on Oct 25, 2006 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
weather's closing back in
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baseball is going to decide at 10/9 CT
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KTRS is saying Fox
Guess who'll win??
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fox
by jimmybaseball42 on Oct 25, 2006 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should know soon
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Storm
by DimitroffVodka on Oct 25, 2006 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody
by DCGreg on Oct 25, 2006 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
see redbirds fun
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck it
by DimitroffVodka on Oct 25, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have been busy
by calico30 on Oct 25, 2006 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did I think there was a rainout in 2004?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
update
stay tuned for updates. joe is waiting to hear if there is a game.
baseball is still deciding.
late local news in the meantime until baseball decides what to do. i want baseball!!!
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there's no way they play this game
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dedicated fans in the east will watch
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
by DimitroffVodka on Oct 25, 2006 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they cant play, can they?
by royalsreview on Oct 25, 2006 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
question
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
say it rains out til sunday
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carp
by DCGreg on Oct 25, 2006 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
has a pitcher ever pitched two consecutive games?
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Games 4 and 5
by cardsrul on Oct 25, 2006 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The new 2006 version of 'Talkin Baseball' Cards
And each year they have a mission
....version
To end up in the classic in the Fall
Tony will not let them down
Though Izzy's not around
They're gonna be super with Wainwright and Looper, so let's play ball
I'm talking baseball
Molina, Dave, Scotty
Cardinals baseball
Chris Carpenter's red hot
Weaver, Juan and Duncan in the groove
Ronnie, Jim and Albert comin' thru
Talkin' baseball
Baseball in St. Lou
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think they should have been playing this whole
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
EVIDENT THE WASH!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well,
by toris34 on Oct 25, 2006 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe
by madding on Oct 25, 2006 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see my Talkin' baseball
It is on iTunes, lyrics above.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm stuck watching an episode of Taxi
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd rather watch taxi
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Tony is trying to fight
That would explain the Buenos Dias this morning.
Badum-Ching!
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ticket Question
by johnnymizzou on Oct 25, 2006 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
by DCGreg on Oct 25, 2006 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
by DCGreg on Oct 25, 2006 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was wondering if you had lost your mind
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Thursday is played
If both are rained out, they will go back to being in order...I would assume.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
by johnnymizzou on Oct 25, 2006 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
based on last series
If they rainout tomorrow, you're on your own!! I suspect your tkt will be good for whenever the second makeup game is.
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any thoughts on how this affects
by saveferris on Oct 25, 2006 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely
by chuckb on Oct 25, 2006 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rather see
by liam on Oct 25, 2006 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
updates?
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Certainly Heathen
by toris34 on Oct 25, 2006 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Knock on wood
by Mr Redbird on Oct 25, 2006 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have the local news
by royalsreview on Oct 25, 2006 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cedar rapids/ iowa city
http://www.fox2840.com/program/index.shtml
by royalsreview on Oct 25, 2006 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brother
by erik on Oct 25, 2006 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly
almost like its not even funny
she wont be on Iowa TV much longer I think
by royalsreview on Oct 25, 2006 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anybody listening on radio?
by Matty I on Oct 25, 2006 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While we wait
There are only two days in the calendar year on which none of the four major American professional sports leagues (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL) has any games. Can you name them?
by Mr Redbird on Oct 25, 2006 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't know
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lions and Cowboys
by Mr Redbird on Oct 25, 2006 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
by Mr Redbird on Oct 25, 2006 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
july
by bigcardsfan5 on Oct 25, 2006 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anybody know
i'm just glad I made it to the game last night. it was amazing.
by realRED429 on Oct 25, 2006 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rain
Unfortunately, I know very little more than y'all do. I just hvae heard that we should be ready to be in it for the long haul tonight. I think they want very much not to call it tonight -- because tomorrow could be worse.
-M.
by cardsfan2222 on Oct 25, 2006 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Claiborne...
so annoying...
by cardsfaninmass on Oct 25, 2006 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The days
by raisin on Oct 25, 2006 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
any updates
i'll watch the CSI and Criminal Minds in reruns.
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
darn
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
POSTPONED
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
few things are worse than
by brock on Oct 25, 2006 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
world series schedule
thursday will be game 4, friday game 5
all this is weather permitting.
from cincy affiliate: "You want to play ball in St. Louis, you better have plenty of pine tar on your hands."
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Drat
by calico30 on Oct 25, 2006 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of the excitement and anticipation
by Mr Redbird on Oct 25, 2006 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've changed my mind
Now, if tomorrow night's game is postponed also, everything changes. It would give us the ability to go w/ Suppan, Weaver, and Carp in games 4, 5, and 6 and put off Reyes until game 7 if needed. That's what I would do if tomorrow's rained out also.
by chuckb on Oct 25, 2006 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
scenario
Carp in game 4 or Game 5?
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carp would be on short rest
by madding on Oct 25, 2006 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carp goes
Some might be afraid of pushing Reyes back to game 7 b/c he's a rookie. But he's also our 4th starter and he should be the 4th option in setting the pitching rotation. We want to end it before game 7 (and game 6 if possible) so we run our best guys out there as soon as we can.
by chuckb on Oct 25, 2006 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
short rest
by madding on Oct 25, 2006 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
by fandomismasochism on Oct 25, 2006 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I strongly disagree
With the rainout tonight, we have:
Wed -rain-
Thurs Soup
Fri Reyes/Weava, both full rest
Sat Weava/Reyes (or Carp on 3 days)
Sun Carp
So, I can't see that the rainout today makes a big deal -- except to my stomach, my job and my marriage.
It DOES give TLR the opportunity to move Reyes back if he thinks the Rook doesn't need the added pressure of pitching at home (but, then, he'd be bucking Dream's home/road splits, but these I think are less meainingful in WS).
But, if we have a chance to WIN it all at BuschIII, I can see TLR giving the ball to Weaver to spin a dream.
So, I think TLR goes Soup tomorrow and then Weaver/Reyes if we're up 3-1, but Reyes/Weaver if we are tied 2-2. And the ONLY WAY TLR would start Carp in Game 6 on short rest is if we are down 3-2, and I doubt he'd do it then b/c he'd have Weava on the road on full rest for 6 and still have Carp, on full rest, for 7.
Finally, what if we rainout TOMORROW(very possible):
Wed -rain-
Thurs -rain-
Fri Soup
Sat Reyes/Weava
Sun Weava/Reyes
Mon Carp
It looks to me that the analysis is the SAME as a 1-day rain-out. That is, if Soup WINS, then I think TLR throws Weava on Sat at home and Reyes/Carp on Sun/Mon, respectively. If Soup does that "other thing," then I think TLR throws the Rook at home on Sat and Weava/Carp on Sun/Mon at Detritus, respectively.
. . . and I'll be dead after back-to-back rainouts so I really don't care.
There is NO REASON to use anyone on short rest - and I'll bet my house that TLR doesn't start Carp in Game 6 (on regular rest) unless we are DOWN 2-3, Carp's his Game 7 guy - he's his firewall.
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming no more rainouts
No matter who pitches.
End it as soon as possible.
by player2bnamedl8r on Oct 25, 2006 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NO, NO this is GOOD!!!
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still say
by Mr Redbird on Oct 25, 2006 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so...
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2006 Salaries
Anyone know of a better resource than ESPN or SI? They don't seem to have very good information on specific deals (for example: the Jeff Weaver deal).
Thanks in advance.
by EckEqualsClutch on Oct 25, 2006 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there are 2 good ones
and
cot's baseball contracts:
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/
cot's seems to be down at the moment though.
If you search the diaries there was a good discussion about this a month or so ago, when all seemed lost.
by SleepyCA on Oct 25, 2006 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cot's Contracts
Unfortunately, the blogspot servers are down right now.
by liam on Oct 25, 2006 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If tomorrow is rained out
St. Louis wins Game 4
Would you consider throwin Carpenter on 3 days rest with the opportunity of keeping the series from going back to Detroit?
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not me
by chuckb on Oct 25, 2006 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember carp
by tnek5 on Oct 26, 2006 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 26, 2006 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotation
Thursday: Suppan
Friday: Reyes or Weaver
Thursday: PPD
Friday: Suppan
Saturday: Reyes/Weaver
Thursday and Friday: PPD
Sat: Suppan
Sun: Carp
Your thoughts?
by cardsfan84 on Oct 25, 2006 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
by cardsrul on Oct 25, 2006 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do ya mean?
ps: Then why don't we just go to sleep?
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get a room.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was tempted
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least TLR
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think
by chuckb on Oct 25, 2006 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt they'll play tomorrow either...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Oct 25, 2006 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is the weather like in the Lou right now
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still raining
All I want for Christmas is for Leyland to move Verlander up on short rest!!
It's supposed to be clear tomorrow for just long enough to play, but who knows.
Detritus did catch a break cause we were DEEP into their pen -- nine innings in three games over four days. But it can't really matter cause we are gonna bust out the whuppin sticks on their starters.
Please, oh please start Verlander! Or start Tony Romo!
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weather
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 25, 2006 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they
by cardsrul on Oct 25, 2006 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping they'd wrap it up tomorrow night
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 25, 2006 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion...
Football or baseball. And that doesn't mean you have to build one as stupid as the juice box.
It just makes sense.
- You can still have grass.
- You can close it for frigid weather
- You can close it wen the heat index is 105.
- No rainouts for baseball.
- If the weather is nice, by all means open it.
I do think the roofs should be closed due to a weather situation however.
by Pujols for MVP on Oct 25, 2006 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the juice box
by madding on Oct 26, 2006 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion,
Minute Maid is always closed because their record is better with it closed. Somebody needs to take Statistics 101
by texbird on Oct 26, 2006 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Statistically...
by trogdor on Oct 25, 2006 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bernie says Weaver in Game 5
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 26, 2006 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So Suppan tomorrow night...
(This Game 4-Game 5 thing is going to get confusing. Technically, tomorrow night's game is Game 5, and Game 4 is the Friday game.)
Here's the problem with Weaver on Friday: Reyes can't come out of the pen if Weaver gets hurt or is ineffective early. His arm doesn't respond well to trying to get loose in the pen.
If Weaver takes a Mulder-type line drive to the arm or gets knocked around the yard, it's gonna be Babyface, Looper and a trip to Detroit.
by Quietude on Oct 26, 2006 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if reyes comes in via injury to someone
by cardsfan84 on Oct 26, 2006 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obsessing now
LaRussa's approach seems to be, "Throw the best pitcher who is available," defining "available" as full rest. But, he deviated from that for Game 1, I think b/c Game 1 was a lower pressure start for the kid than Game 2 would have been. Why not do the same now?
If he starts Soup in 4 and Weaver in 5, that admittedly gives us the best chance to clinch at home. But, it puts Reyes on the hot seat for Game 6 if we don't clinch in 5, and if [I won't say it] happens, Game 6 could be an elimination game. What then? Going with Soup in 4 and Weaver in 5 creates the possibility of an elimination threat in Game 6 and the only starters being (a) a rookie, or (b) Carp on short rest. Dumb! And easily avoidable!
By starting Reyes in 4 and Soup in 5, you eliminate the foregoing ugly possibilty and, worst case, we have Weaver in Game 6 facing elimination, which I can live with.
Weirder, but even better, would be to start Reyes in 4 and Weava in 5. This keeps everybody on reg rest except Soup - but leaves Soup for the hotseat in Game 6. This puts both Weaver and Soup at odds with their home/road splits, though I just don't think those #'s are relevant anymore. It also runs the risk that Soup never gets to pitch, but I can't imagine that anyone will mind if we win in 5 without Soup getting a start -- except Soup of course.
So, most conservative, I'd go:
Reyes
Weaver
Soup
Carp
Slightly more aggressive is:
Reyes
Soup
Weaver
Carp
But stay away, please, from:
Soup
Weaver
Reyes
Carp
And, for pity's sake, stay away from:
Soup
Weaver
Carp (on short rest)
Soup (on short rest)
That's how a sure-fire recipe for a 7-game loss.
by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 26, 2006 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
by tnek5 on Oct 26, 2006 2:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
weaver/reyes is a tough call
you can say he's bearing down, or you could say he's lucking out but i think i'd rather trust reyes who just doesn't allow a lot of hits to begin with. but it's almost a coin flip to me. i guess if it gives Carp a shot to face Rogers in 6, then Weaver gets the ball
by erik on Oct 26, 2006 8:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, i need some help...
by toris34 on Oct 26, 2006 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When has John Rodriguez...
by 1985kid on Oct 26, 2006 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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