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World Series Game 2 Open Thread: October 22, 2006

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weaver               rogers
8-14, 5.76        17-8, 3.84

Thanks to yesterday's great effort from Reyes, Pujols and the gang, the onus is now on the Tigers to win tonight's game. Keeping with the SoCal mojo going, Weaver will be on the mound opposing his old team, for which Todd Jones says there's "no love lost here that he's gone." Not sure why Jones made those comments, nor do I really care, just more soap opera fodder for the postseason. What I do care about is if Weaver can continue what the Cardinal starters have been doing, which is relying on location and movement with fastballs, and he's done that effectively to this point. I can't really imagine the Tigers hitters being as impatient as they were last night, which according to Nate Silver, only saw an average of 2.4 pitches per at bat from the 2nd inning to the 8th. But this impatience isn't uncharacteristic of the Tigers, as they posted at .329 OBP as team, only 14th in the AL overall. Silver also notes that the Tigers finished next to last in the walks and strikeouts category in the AL, which to me seems like it would play into the whole "pitch to contact" game plan the Cardinal pitchers are known for.

The Gambler will be on the mound tonight, and he's been roasting through the playoffs, having not allowed a run in the postseason, striking out 14 in 15 innings. ("Stay Away from the chicken! Bad chicken, mess you up!" Sorry, irresistible Seinfeld reference.) Rogers only struck out 99 the entire season, but somehow the playoffs have turned him into a power pitcher. His curveball has been pretty baffling. The Cardinals need to try and lay off if possible, very seldom did I see against the Yanks or the A's Rogers throw the hook for a strike, sorta like a left handed Suppan. You can also bet you'll see Scott Spiezio in the lineup, as he's 15-38 lifetime against Rogers. Normally, the 'crafty lefty' type would have us all groaning, but the Cardinals did an exceptional job handling Glavine the 2nd go around, and Rogers is fairly similar.

According to Jeff Sackmann's projection for guys who sport pocket protectors, the Tigers had a 63.8% chance of winning yesterday, and a 63.9% chance of winning today. So according to that projection it's more likely to snow in Detroit then for the Cardinals to win tonight. But what else does an 83 win team in the World Series have to do, other then continue to defy odds?


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lineups... per Matt Leach
  1. Eckstein SS
  2. Spiezio DH
  3. Pujols 1B
  4. Rolen 3B
  5. Encarnacion RF
  6. Edmonds CF
  7. Wilson LF
  8. Molina C
  9. Miles 2B

by guayzimi on Oct 22, 2006 5:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Belly hurt?
I heard he blew out his hair...
"I don't believe what I just saw!" ~ Jack Buck

by itsalemmon1019 on Oct 22, 2006 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's
2 for 22 career against the gambler

by DCGreg on Oct 22, 2006 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting...
... Belly's been chasing bad breaking balls since the end of the NLDS. with Rogers out there, he'd get a lot of balls low and outside. Miles, hopefully, will be better at laying off them.

if we get some runners on in the bottom of the line-up, i'd expect some hit-and-runs. i'll bet TLR pulls out all the stops in this game.

by kindred on Oct 22, 2006 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson, again?
How many strike outs for him tonight?

by redbird2006in on Oct 22, 2006 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TLR & his lineup cards...
...I'll just never understand. After such a wonderful win Saturday night, I guess he has to do something to keep up my season long frustration level following this team.

TLR provided me a glimmer of hope he had seen the light following the NLCS game which brought a convincing Cards victory with JuanE on the bench for the entire game. It was SO satisfying.

I was SO hoping TLR would sit out JuanE tonight and play Taguchi in RF and have Rolen, Spiezio and Edmonds at 4-5-6. I just feel Spiezio is a proven playoff run producer and not a table-setter at the No. 2 spot, where Taguchi would have fit in nicely vs. Rogers. Hadn't dreamed Belliard would be replaced with Miles, but I'd even take Miles at No. 2 and Taguchi batting ninth. My first reaction to this lineup is, while I have the most faith in Edmonds to prove me wrong, I feel the Nos. 5-6-7 spots in the lineup tonight can't be counted on to do anything but make an out.

Anyway you slice it, I don't see how JuanE has earned his playoff playing time or hitting high in the lineup. If he has to play, bat him No. 7 or No. 8. Better yet, don't bat him at all.

Sorry. Had to get it out of my system. Prove me wrong oh great LaRussa, and please pitch a dream of a game Mr. Weaver and make me forget TLRs lack of offense lineup strategies!  

Baily

by Baily on Oct 22, 2006 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chance of winning
Hi Larry,

I think you have a typo.  Those 63.8% and 63.9% are the chances of the Tigers winning, which is what you meant, but you have them stated as the Cards' chances.

Here's to the steady Weaver we've seen lately...

by ncgostl on Oct 22, 2006 5:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thnx for pointing that out
i'm erik actually, larry does every day but sun and wed. i'm need an editor, bad. :)

by erik on Oct 22, 2006 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sackmann's most recent article
As I mentioned in today's earlier thread...Sackmann states by winning yesterday's game, the Cardinals increase chances of winning the series from 37.6% to 58%.  Although, he league adjusts it to 50.9%.  

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/world-series-cardinals-vs-tigers-st-louis-grabs-game-1/

by RedbirdRay on Oct 22, 2006 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone have an idea...
of how much $$ 8 home playoff games puts in an owners pocket?

Should we be demanding Matsuzaka(sp?) and Schmidt?

by guayzimi on Oct 22, 2006 5:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've seen the Matsuzaka video
but that guy just smells like bust.  Ridiculous workload, some damn good stuff but can he adjust to hitters who can take anything deep?

Not to mention it's going to cost 20-30 million just to be able to then negotiate with Boras when he is in the power position.  It really wouldn't surprise me if Boras nails out an 80 million dollar deal for the guy in addition to the 20 mil up front.  Is a team really going to eat a 20 million investment to keep from going another 15+ mil on a contract?  That's not the position from which I would like to try to negotiate a deal.

Schmidt is going to have all the familiar overspenders and we can't outdo them.  We need to find our aces from within or Carpenter-style.

Pujols > God

by joker24 on Oct 22, 2006 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but...
isn't it better to take a chance on a guy than just letting the money sit in DeWitt's bank account?

We gotta get this guy to spend and take a shot at someone.

by guayzimi on Oct 22, 2006 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamstringing yourself for 5 years...
just to spend money is not the answer.  There's a guy every year to which "just take a chance" would apply.  For example, anyone think that any team excluding the Yankees would take the 51 mil left on Burnett's deal?  No thanks.

I'd be willing to be that we don't do anything major this off-season like it or not.  

Pujols > God

by joker24 on Oct 22, 2006 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno...
he looked pretty good in the WBC.  Certainly handled MLB-level hitters.

He strikes me as being the Japanese Greg Maddux, but with a better fastball.  Doesn't hurt that they both throw the gyroball.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Name me one Japanese pitcher
that has come to MLB and been consistently good--they come here, dominate for a year with their bizarre motion, and then flame horribly.  Or they are Hideki Irabu (who was every bit as dominant in Japan as Matasazuka is).  It's worth thinking about, but the posting system is just too insane to deal with.

by Valatan on Oct 22, 2006 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Erik
Hi Erik--Great job filling in for Larry.  I forgot the Sunday pinch hit.

by ncgostl on Oct 22, 2006 5:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Things you never knew about Dreamweaver...
but suspected, deep down.

He's a character, that's for sure.  Somehow appropriate for this team.  

Here's to another great postseason pitching performance from the Weave tonight.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Weaver
Trivia

Fought with Kansas City Royals slugger Mike Sweeney in 2001 game after Sweeney charged the mound. According to Sweeney, Weaver instigated the fight by calling Sweeney a "fucking pussy" because Sweeney requested the pitcher's rosin bag be moved.

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From the Detroit News By Fred Girard / The Detroit News

2002

DETROIT -- Several Tigers players engaged in "shameful and disgraceful" behavior toward a former flight attendant, calling her vulgar names after she complained about marijuana use on the team plane, a judge said in a ruling on the attendant's sexual-harassment lawsuit.

U.S. District Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff criticized the "hubris of the players, engaging in behavior that would be rightfully deemed unacceptable if performed by anyone else in society ... simply because of their ability to hit a ball with a bat and run around the bases."

In the lawsuit, Lisa Kesner of Lima, Ohio, claimed that Tigers players showed hard-core pornography on laptop computers during flights on the team plane. She also claimed former Tigers pitcher Jeff Weaver used marijuana in the plane's restroom, and that current player Matt Anderson called her profane names after she told him marijuana use was not permitted on the plane. She also accused player Bobby Higginson of profanity.

With his harsh words, Zatkoff noted that the Tigers organization and other defendants in the lawsuit didn't try to deny the allegations. But he dismissed 29 of the 30 complaints made by Kesner, 37.

He ruled the single complaint of sexual harassment against Olympia Aviation can proceed to trial, set for Aug. 1. Now dissolved, Olympia Aviation was a company owned by Tigers owner Mike Ilitch.

Higginson and Anderson said Monday they had no recollection of the events Kesner alleges. "I kind of know who the lady is," Anderson said, "but it was never a big issue in my life."

None of the players is named as a defendant in Kesner's suit. Efforts to interview the other players named were unsuccessful Monday. In May 2001, Kesner sued the Tigers, three Ilitch holding companies and Olympia Aviation, the Ilitch arm that handled charter flights for the Tigers and Red Wings. She claimed sexual harassment, sex discrimination, retaliation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, defamation and tortious interference with a business expectation.

Zatkoff ruled that whether Olympia Aviation provided a "hostile working environment," as defined by the Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act, is a matter for a jury to decide.

Kesner's other complaints were dismissed because Tigers officials did not know of some of the problems and took action to correct others. Kesner declined to be interviewed Monday; her attorney did not respond to a message.

In her lawsuit against Olympia Aviation, Kesner alleges the harassment began on her first flight with the team in April 2000, when a group of players was showing hard-core pornography on their laptop computers in such a way that she and another woman attendant could not help but see it.

Then, and afterward, players called her vulgar names and made frequent sexual innuendos, her lawsuit said. She said Doug Brocail and Gregg Jeffries, then players with the Tigers, asked her if she would perform sexual acts with her husband "in a van." Other players inappropriately touched or rubbed her breasts or buttocks, according to the complaint.

The treatment worsened, according to the suit, after a flight in July 2000. Kesner said that she saw Weaver -- traded this month to the Yankees -- walk out of the lavatory, and "saw a smoke cloud and smelled burnt marijuana following him out."

Her suit says that when she told Weaver and his seatmate, Anderson, that smoking marijuana on the flight was not permitted, Anderson responded by barking profanities at her and calling her vulgar names. She alleges that later in the flight Higginson, confronted and chastised her for reporting the marijuana smoking. Another player, Brad Ausmus, also confronted Kesner, and allegedly called her vulgar names for reporting the incident.

Kesner said when she complained to a supervisor at Olympia Aviation, she was told she would have to go along with the players' conduct because it was "their airplane."

"The terrible treatment (Kesner) had to endure while working on the baseball players' airplane can be found to be outrageous," Zatkoff ruled. "Defendants do not deny the fact that the players yelled at and called the plaintiff a (profane name) -- an absolutely awful name to call any woman, let alone a woman who happens to be the mother of two children -- repeatedly after she confronted pitchers Weaver and Anderson about the marijuana smoking incident.

"In addition, the court notes that these men, heroes to many young boys and girls, use illegal drugs."

Major League Baseball tacitly condones such behavior, Zatkoff wrote: "While the leagues occasionally condemn a token athlete, such as Darryl Strawberry, for drug abuse or other socially unacceptable behavior, there are likely a large number of athletes who use drugs and who are not punished."

Responding on behalf of Major League Baseball, former Tigers president John McHale, now an executive with the commissioner's office, said illegal drug use is an issue of great concern, and owners have presented a comprehensive program to the players union to deal with it.

"But with all appropriate respect," McHale added, "I don't see any ... evidence that would support the judge's conclusion." Zatkoff said the Tigers' attorneys did not deny that Higginson chastised Kesner because he and other players "could be tested for drugs."

"This raises the question," Zatkoff said in his ruling, "why would he be concerned about drug testing if nobody on the team used drugs?"

Zatkoff pointed out that "not all professional baseball players are so boorish." In her lawsuit deposition, Kesner described players Wendell McGee and Todd Jones as gentlemen, as were all the Red Wings players, who also fly on the Ilitch DC-9.

by sgfcards on Oct 22, 2006 5:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm cracking up...
Because there was a Gregg Jefferies sighting in that article!
"I don't believe what I just saw!" ~ Jack Buck

by itsalemmon1019 on Oct 22, 2006 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He looks like...
an extra from "Dazed and Confused" for Christ's sake.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute........
Weaver smoked weed?????????

He looks like every burn-out I went to high school with.......but with a better arm.

It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Oct 22, 2006 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DK
You guys remember when DK died they found a sack in his hotel room?

If you were a pitcher why wouldn't you? I got killer  bad shoulder problems and marijuana is about the only stuff besides loading up on painkillers that makes it stop. I am into powerlifting pretty heavy and when you are throwing around hundreds of pounds of weight the joints take a beating.

by DimitroffVodka on Oct 22, 2006 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So?
No one in the history of Marijuana has ever overdosed from it. So it being illegal means nothing to me. I feel no shame that I do it and don't feel like I need to hide the fact that I do it.

by DimitroffVodka on Oct 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said anything about you
you asked why wouldn't a pitcher smoke weed and I told you a pretty good reason.  A proffesional athlete getting caught buying buttweed from some guy in an apartment building or getting caught with a dimebag at the airport wouldn't be good for the ole PR machine.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember that
and I remember being relieved that no one made a big deal out of it....

I think it's funny that some folks might be pissed about an athlete smoking weed when they think nothing of lining up to pay six bucks a pop for beer in Busch Stadium.....not that I'm accusing anybody here, it's just one of those things that never makes more sense the more I think about it.

by nota bene on Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playoff song
No one commented to my comment in other threads but is it true that it's "Move Along" by the All American Rejects?

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 6:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe
The Cards at night, are big and bright, deep in the heart of Texas

by texbird on Oct 22, 2006 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunno
I still think I ocined there song along time ago Rollercoaster by REd hot chilli peppers

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 6:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tigers lineup
  1. Curtis Granderson, center field
  2. Craig Monroe, left field
  3. Placido Polanco, second base
  4. Magglio Ordonez, right field
  5. Carlos Guillen, first base
  6. Ivan Rodriguez, catcher
  7. Sean Casey, designated hitter
  8. Brandon Inge, third base
  9. Ramon Santiago, shortstop

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 6:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, if Weaver smokes weed.....
how come he never smiles?  I hate to say it, but I think a lot of ball players smoke weed.  It has a much better recovery time than drinking or other drugs.........but don't tell the kids

by jillsinmo on Oct 22, 2006 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
Marijuana doesn't really affect the system negatively. The things that give me the worst hangovers the next day are cigarettes.

by DimitroffVodka on Oct 22, 2006 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

first pitch
I know it's set for 8:23 or so but this FOX DH is likely to be over before 7:15 or so.

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oops
didn't know it was set for 8:05...

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonights game
I've got that feeling it may be lopsided tigers victory, like we are just waiting for weaver to fall apart, but then im like well he has been fairly solid since the ATL bashing...the pen is better which fairs better for hi 4 nd. in a card uni that should all have been wins...

Last night I was relaxed alot more than any mets game, toinght im wound up again. I havent had nay expectations this postseason, its all been a bonus since the way they limped in. They are def a feel good story if you look at the team and not the media stuff...A bunch of guys we can all relate with "retreads" now guys who have been playing real hard D, situational O...guys who are making the pros at 27,25...spent there whole lifes in the majors now making it...This is the story of the 06 birds, not that they arent favored, not that they may lose in 5, but the hope in dreams...ok this is corny please noone cry.

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I'm pretty relaxed
we got the one victory I wanted this series and as a bonus, MV3 is 1 hit away from tying their 2004 WS total.

As far as the blowout, the same could be said for The Gambler.  Everytime I think about the 1996 Postseason, I'm absolutely befuddled that Kenny Rogers is still in the major leagues (LDS, LCS, WS):

7 IP 11 ER 4 SO 6 BB 15 H (14.14 ERA)

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we had Rogers beat in June
We only lost due to a BS by Izzy but we got Rogers early in that game.

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw him throw a few times
when i lived in Texas for what should have been wins...He doesnt have ooo wow stuff, but ok stuff...Now I havent watched him this postseason, but have seen the other tigers, and htey have looked very beatable(im sure they could say that about the birds) the a's and yanks had chances and didnt capitalize, or their own pitching gave out...AGain havent seen Rogers yet...

Heres to hoping he gets mad and hits another camera man

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think Fox's montage(SP)
is with the song the Gambler?
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw him pitch in Cleveland
in an Indians/Rangers game.  When he came out, the PA people played 'The Gambler' cued up to the chorus 'You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run'.  It was after a horrid inning by Rogers when he had like 2 errors and couldn't do anything to get out of it.  May have even been hit by a comebacker.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're 2-0 with this
here's some movietime good luck

I wanted to win that pennant worse thanI wanted any goddamned thing in my life.

You''d think I couldjust this once, wouldn''t you?

I didn''t care nothingabout the Series.Win or lose,I would have been satisfied.

I''d have walked away from baseballand I''d have bought a farm.Nothing like a farm.

Nothing like being around animals,fixing things.  There's nothing like being in the field with the corn and the winter wheat.The greenest stuff you ever saw.

You know, my mother told me I ought to be a farmer.  My dad wanted me to be a baseball player.

You're better than anyone I ever had.  And you're the best goddamned hitter I ever saw.

Suit up.

"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my outfit's the same, too
Pujols jersey, Cards shirt, Cards cap, jeans and red Chuck Taylors that I've had since high school. I think the shoes are the true source of luck. We haven't lost this postseason when I've worn them, although I just realized it a few days ago.

Oh, and the beard, of course. Day 19 and counting.

by effin fisk on Oct 22, 2006 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in my long-sleeve red T...
that we won Game 7 in, and the playoff beard is still going strong.

Pitcher of sweet tea is made, my "Mac the Cardinal" Beanie Baby from 1998 is sitting on the table next to the couch watching the game and I'm about to go take up my spot on the couch until we get the lead.

Now, to set my SkyFi2 to XM 184 for good luck and so I can rewind and listen to Shannon and Rooney after big plays.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same Red Argyles
As last night, and the Jimmy Ballgame t-shirt jersey.

By the way, just got done reading through last night's game threads while watching the game... At one point Joe Buck said that one of the Cards' farm teams has a manager named Pop Warner.

Palm Beach Cardinals...

Manager: Ron "Pop" Warner

by liam on Oct 22, 2006 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really looking forward
to a splendiferous breakout by Preston Wilson this evening.

by redbadger on Oct 22, 2006 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hardcore and other Mcfarlane collectors
Junes Lineup
Albert Pujols 3 --
Jonathan Papelbon
Johnny Damon 2 --
Scott Kazmir --
Pedro Martinez 2
Prince Fielder --
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just finished a Spiezo custom....
came out real nice.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you made your own?
ive heard people paint em...i cant wait for the wizzard photos and the probable of maris and carlton variants
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I made me own
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chart
4. Matchup scores: Tigers hitters

A matchup score is determined by Inside Edge data and proprietary formulas, which take into account all facets of the hitter and pitcher tendencies, using over two years of data. Similar to a quarterback rating in football, a matchup score can occasionally go above 100. Generally, any score above 70 means the hitter matches up well in this game. Here are today's matchup scores for the Tigers hitters against Jeff Weaver and the Cardinals:

Hitter     Score
Curtis Granderson     79.5
Magglio Ordonez     74.2
Placido Polanco     73.9
Sean Casey     72.1
Brandon Inge     70.0
Craig Monroe     69.5
Alexis Gomez     67.7
Marcus Thames     64.0
Carlos Guillen     64.0
Omar Infante     63.8
Ivan Rodriguez     59.5
Neifi Perez     43.5
Ramon Santiago     38.4
TOTAL     66.3

Granderson looks to turn it around after an 0-for-4 night.

5. Matchup scores: Cardinals hitters

Albert Pujols was on top of the list last night and went deep. Preston Wilson has been very quiet in the postseason. The matchup scores suggest he may do something tonight against Kenny Rogers and the Tigers.

Hitter     Score
Albert Pujols     89.7
Preston Wilson     70.1
John Rodriguez     69.9
Scott Rolen     65.9
David Eckstein     65.7
Scott Spiezio     63.1
So Taguchi     61.6
Jim Edmonds     60.8
Aaron Miles     59.5
Juan Encarnacion     58.6
Yadier Molina     56.4
Ronnie Belliard     54.8
Chris Duncan     32.8
TOTAL     61.9

by DimitroffVodka on Oct 22, 2006 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ordonez
is the hitter I fear in their lineup....

by nota bene on Oct 22, 2006 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Eckstein stays low

We're in for a good night!
I'm just here for the Bud Light...

by OKCardsfan on Oct 22, 2006 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm guessing less pregame tonight?
it should be noted that the last time we played a sunday night when FOX had a DH, we clinched the division

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am
also wearing the same outfit.but i switch to the batting helmet when the cards bat seems to be working. Switch back to hat when they are on defense.

by fxster on Oct 22, 2006 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I bought a new cards jacket yesterday
and right after I paid for it, Rolen hit that hr.  I'm wearing it every game until if falls apart.

by RedPants on Oct 22, 2006 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just start the pregame will ya
I don't watch college football so please move on past the BCS!!!

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Swear it
Fox, ESPN and Shannon all said 7:35 Easter, 6:35 Central.

This is torture

"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

football goes late
actually, football was over by 7:20, it's that darn postgame show...

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eminem and 50 Cent haven't been relevant
for 3+ years.  Way to be cutting edge, FOX!
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

any pics of the speezer?
I just got my Walter peyton..opened it...ordered my peyton variant today wont open it though..Now im pumped for AP3...hope they do a series mcfarlane this year, but not the same old Ablert maybe a Carp thatd be cool carp and the mggs they made in his whitesox uni re-done
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry
i didn't mean the person that postes on this board by the name of erik.

sorry again

by tnek5 on Oct 22, 2006 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Byrnes
and Weaver MUST made a stoner movie together.  I'd go.

Go Cards.

by glennrwordman on Oct 22, 2006 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rogers
remind them of his stats against us

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Byrnes says that Duncan teaching Reyes
the 2-seamer is what has caused his success.  You sure did nail it, Eric.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

acutally them
making him not throw so many change ups helped...but isnt a person responsible for their own success? point in case JM...never listens(talent yes) but never listens to coaches
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reyes' change is usually fine
it just wasn't working for him the other night for some reason....if he doesn't get his change back he's not going to last long as a major leaguer, he doesn't throw hard enough to throw 99% fastballs all the time.

by nota bene on Oct 22, 2006 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HERE WE GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SO EXCITED IT'SNOT EVEN FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by onebigdummy on Oct 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

detroit legends, pt. 2
Poor John "John Cougar" Cougar John Mellancamp; he wants so desparately to be Bruce Springsteen.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 22, 2006 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping,
hoping against hope, that there was some reason he was performing here today. But if he's not from Detroit, then this is truly the most irrelevant performance I've ever been made to sit through.

by DanUpBaby on Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

since hardcores %0 cint relevance comment
we have had Big TIme by peter Gabriel
Higher by Creed
and now John Cougar melonfloppy who hasnt been good for years(anyone catch his Rock in the NCAA?)
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What in the hell has happened to the broadcast
it's coming down to a screeching hault.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I blame you
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How Knows
Maybe I getting old, but how about the National Anthem and just play the darn game.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had the same thought
all those motown legends (not to mention Emimem) and they got a white rocker from Indy.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now, ladies and gentlemen...
John Cougar Mellencamp with "Chevrolet Commercial LIVE!"

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly
even though I do like that song.  It always amazes me how often musical performances at sporting events have terrible, terrible technical problems.  Don't they ever do soundchecks?
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey zubin
the mets lost game 1 in 1973.  we won game 1 in 2006.

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that would have actually been
neat..I'm the K I D rock...
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here we go Cards!
Here we go!

Here's to another stellar outing by Mr. Weaver and to the entire major leagues realizing that Kenny Rogers isn't invincible.

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what?
what was going on with all the John Mellencamp weirdness?  that was strange... nobody looked like they were into the music at all... lots of anxious standing around by Tigers fans and such.

also, I think Eric Byrnes is auditioning to be a pro wrestling announcer.  he was yelling even louder yesterday though.

by madding on Oct 22, 2006 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and he rocks back and forth and nodds
his head like mizzone
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Byrnes = Corey Feldman
That is, Corey Feldman on a sugar rush with bed-head.
Baily

by Baily on Oct 22, 2006 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McCarver's got the plaid jacket on again
Was that like his travel suit for the '68 series?
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ack!

I just tried to get the game Shannon on the radio and got Miller/Morgan instead.

I sure do pity the people who have to listen to those two imbeciles.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just the opposite

Miller's typical commentary:

A player is coming out of the dugout. Why.., he's got a stick! Not jsut any stick, but a smooth one that's tapered at one end. Why, he's going to... HIT THAT LITTLE BALL! Good GOSH!

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at a wedding.....
Yesterday, Got to watch the game on a tv in a bar at the Reception. Told the Guy he had to get Married everyday if we Won. Needless to say he's on his way to his Honymoon. (Damn Cub Fan!!) So here's to our luck holding even though, I'm sitting on the couch. Though if we are losing later this game the tie is coming back on...
Faith, Hope, and Budweiser 3 things every Cardinal Fan needed this season.

by cyko42 on Oct 22, 2006 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this game gonna start

or are we now waiting for the Von Trapp Family Singers to sing rounds of "Row, Row Row Your Boat?"

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Speezers up
lets go boys
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Patience, gentlemen, patience
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Oct 22, 2006 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF Radio
The Radio is behind the TV. I have never seen that before.

by DimitroffVodka on Oct 22, 2006 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Things you also may not know about Jeff Weaver
He uses way too much Vick's Vap-O-Rub. I saw him coming out of a train lavatory in 1995 and a giant cloud of Vap-O-Rub followed him out. He was using inappropriate conjugations while speaking Portuguese with a local harem. He was making outrageous metaphors involving Prime Minister Tony Blair and Oreck Vacuums, although not necessarily in the same breath.

I happened to witness his use of a Number 3 pencil on a Scantron.

Undoubtedly, he was in the possession of a deck of cards which was missing at least 3 cards, potentially including the eight of hearts. Although he did not engage use of the deck, he did mention in passing the concept of Backgammon to a fellow ball-player.

It is with my utmost concern that I advise you that Jeff Weaver has, on multiple occasions, worn pants of the color Yellow (even after Chinese New Year). I have heard that his Pogo sticking is sub-par.

The Cards at night, are big and bright, deep in the heart of Texas

by texbird on Oct 22, 2006 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The gambler
has his good game on.  Ugh.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ump isn't hurting him either
 it was said in pre-game this is the same HP ump that did Roger's Yankee playoff game.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same guy
Alfonso Marquez. Boxscore from that game is here.

by liam on Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whats that crap on KR hand?
that the fox guys are talking about?
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No Clue
But TLR might want to mention it.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does look a lot like pine tar
But that's almost too obvious.  He wouldn't be that dumb would he?
Pujols > God

by joker24 on Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Couldn't Imagine He'd Be That Dumb
But it is strange looking to say the least.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think so, but I can't imagine why he would
have a brown patch on the bottom of his thumb because that wasn't dirt.
Pujols > God

by joker24 on Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my thoughts exactly
does he think he'd get away with that in a WS game? Against a manager as paranoid as La Russa?

Kudos to McCarver for noticing almost immediately (And for pointing out the thing about bringing the pitching hand to the mouth like that)....

if Tony is going to make an argument about it he better do it while the Tigers are on the field (So the Cards can stay warm in the dugout)....

by nota bene on Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gambler
He's cheatin!

by raisin on Oct 22, 2006 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

got an Ace....
Up his sleeve, Pinetar on his fingers.
Faith, Hope, and Budweiser 3 things every Cardinal Fan needed this season.

by cyko42 on Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim says we can blow on our hands tonight
and Kenny's got 5 Aces. That flippin cheater!
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rolen...
....needs to make the Tigers pay for that AP BB,

and he does (kinda)

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap
Juan's up...please be the good Juan

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Juan Ks
here- right?
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep
Yep.

by raisin on Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is rodgers cheating?
if so i bet the yankees are going to go crazy in the press. Wonder what that brown substance is on his hand>

by sreese on Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't have audio
what did the anoucers say?
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side,
with 2 outs he can't hit into a double play.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JUAN

Is gonna come up big in this series sometime!!! It's bound to happen!!!!!! IT HAS TO HAPPEN!!!

by onebigdummy on Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just dont see how Juan
Keeps getting penciled in the lineup 6 or higher every night...

by El Hombre on Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually I think he would make a great
#6 hitter.  High BA, good power.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't either
At least in World Series I'd be tempted to move Molina ahead of JuanE, who in my estimation belongs on an American League team batting No. 8. No. 7 at the very highest. He's just not as good as his stats may appear on paper at the plate, in the OF or running the bases. Actually, he belongs on the Chicago Cubs. Too bad they were smart and signed someone else first, leaving JuanE for Walt to proclaim as the next "Core" Cardinal. I can only hope JuanE makes me eat these words, but I doubt he's capable.
Baily

by Baily on Oct 22, 2006 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The black hole of Calcutta ...
...that is JuanEnc...

the ball goes in and never comes out...

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We need to have it checked now!!
The tigers players are watching just like we are. He wont have it there next time he takes the mound.

by sreese on Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Juan Encarnacion
is TLR's gift to Leyland. God he sucks.

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks juan. doing good
try something new like waiting for it to be in the zone.

by tnek5 on Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't it look like
that called strike to Juan was out of the zone?  Gameday says it was.

by RedPants on Oct 22, 2006 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could it be that Juan has just spent the last....
...who knows how many games setting up everyone for something spectacular?

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does Tony insist on batting him there?
Atleast with Rolen, he has a decent enough eye to look for a good pitch (even though he wasn't hitting them).  Juan is just up there hacking.  If anyone hasn't figured out the scouting report on him, they don't deserve to be in the big leagues.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't stand him batting there.
I'd rather have Molina batting that high than Juan.

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

brown substance?
what? details, i'm not watching the game
The Cards at night, are big and bright, deep in the heart of Texas

by texbird on Oct 22, 2006 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On Rogers pitching thumb there is a..
..dark substance the TV cameras picked up

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the "Encarnacion Problem"
 is becoming HUGE
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if KR does have pine tar
what does that mean for tonight in terms of the game?  ejection?

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i believe so
 
Faith, Hope, and Budweiser 3 things every Cardinal Fan needed this season.

by cyko42 on Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's very doubtful in the first place that he does
but ejection then suspension for minimum 5 games has been the usual I think.
Pujols > God

by joker24 on Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Insist
On trying to pull the ball - why?  Go the way of the pitch dangit!

by Crimsonfowl on Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dunno guys
if the cardinals don't do well tonight, i'm not sure i wanna be around

by gibbons on Oct 22, 2006 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cmon Jeff
I need a DREAM
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So... is TLR gonna do anything?
About the pinetar?
He strikes me as someone who would certainly make a scene about that.
www.royalsreview.com

by royalsreview on Oct 22, 2006 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They showed vizciano talking to tlr
during juans ab. so i thought he might do it then

by sreese on Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JEd
juuuuuussssst a little lacksadaisical there
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i figured he would be on the top step...
at the end of the first half inning.
Faith, Hope, and Budweiser 3 things every Cardinal Fan needed this season.

by cyko42 on Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MONROE????
the only hitter on the team
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Edmonds did that same spinning
thing last time we played here.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

darn
remember, the Cards have scored almost every inning after their opponents

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we just CANNOT
get through the top of the first
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could SOMEONE please tell me ...
when's the last time Encarnacion hit ANY ball with authority?

His October hits have all been "excuse-me" wrong way dinks.

Some #5 hitter.

by Urban Pawnee on Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with
an absolute look of terror in his eyes
www.royalsreview.com

by royalsreview on Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As Much As We've Heard
That Kenny is emotional, it would seem Tony should say something just to shake him up.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

set em down, Weava
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eck just missed that one
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Weaver's arm slot
Is Weaver's arm going over the top or is he throwing from the side a bit?
The '06 Cardinals- The New '73 Mets? (Sorry, but I have to be real about our chances)

by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He isn't
on top of his pitches.  Dunc?
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

his arm slot....
changes depending on where he wants to throw the ball. He'll even dip down side arm sometimes.
Faith, Hope, and Budweiser 3 things every Cardinal Fan needed this season.

by cyko42 on Oct 22, 2006 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well That Is A Stat
You don't like to hear about your starting pitcher, that over the last two years he had given  up more homers then any other pitcher in baseball.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
The '06 Cardinals- The New '73 Mets? (Sorry, but I have to be real about our chances)

by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Tagucci
makes that play...
The '06 Cardinals- The New '73 Mets? (Sorry, but I have to be real about our chances)

by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Most high school LF...
make that catch.  P-Dub took one of the worst routes to a ball I've ever seen.  I don't think the wind is to blame, I think he just misread that ball BADLY.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are we running to the right of the ball
on every fly ball?  It seems like we can't get any kind of read.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Supposed to be very windy
You can see JeffWea's mullet blowing around. There could be some adventures out there in the lawn.

by liam on Oct 22, 2006 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welll it appears
Weaver 1.0 has shown up, and so have the Tigers
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Oct 22, 2006 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we can't play minus
OF's in this huge park
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Guch should be in left.
The '06 Cardinals- The New '73 Mets? (Sorry, but I have to be real about our chances)

by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Face it ...
if there was ever a game the Tigers were going to roar back and extract gawdalmighty revenge, it would be this one. They got everything lined up.

by Urban Pawnee on Oct 22, 2006 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 won't win this game!!!
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not a good start
but im not gonna give up, hope they address the kenny hand problem...someone call TLR quick..
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as i said upthread
I've notified Leach, who is likely at the game in the press box.

The umpires are calling TLR out on the field for whatever reason

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep the faith guys
stay optimistic.

edmonds leads off the 2nd.  we can get a rally started

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love this Lasorda commercial

What's his team?

The Cubbies.

Eew!

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm Not I Would Go That Far
But I would like to know what was on his hand.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rooney says it's gone to start the inning
but the umps are talking to Tony...?

Why can't I see it on the radio?!?

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 22, 2006 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

foresight
i spit on that guys hand. nuff said

by pussywillows on Oct 22, 2006 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pine Tar removed...
...we were a day late and dollar short on that

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim McCarver knows a Steve Carlton stat
what a shock@
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But it can't be from memory...
...and he can't read the FOX notes, so where did that come from? Some sort of primordial flashback?

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's gone now
He washed it off?

by RedPants on Oct 22, 2006 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i know what happened....
i licked it off.. mmmm...

by pussywillows on Oct 22, 2006 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big thanks to FOX...
If they didnt catch that substance on Rogers hand.. he may have had a big edge with his grip...

by El Hombre on Oct 22, 2006 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Rogers
Should be suspended for the rest of the series and thrown out of this game. That's bush league.
MY GOD!! THAT's ADAM WAINWRIGHT'S MUSIC!!!

by Rob Rabies on Oct 22, 2006 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha
Inge talks to him, Rogers doesn't even look at his hand but just walks into the clubhouse and walks out clean and dandy.
Pujols > God

by joker24 on Oct 22, 2006 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilson takes two balls
then swings at two more.

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did the umps actually look at his hand?
If it was pine tar maybe there would be something left? Unless he scrubbed a bunch of skin off...

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 22, 2006 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilson and Encarnacion
should -not- be on this frickin team. Get rid of them.

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

darn it
Yadi was SO close to a HR

KR now talking to HP ump...

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Other Then Pine Tar
The only thing I can think of that looks like that is Iodine.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or pecan pie

Maybe he just finished his dessert.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It could be NuSkin
it has the same color to it.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats what i said,
but a stain is still on his hand
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The grease
on telescoping camera lenses?

by liam on Oct 22, 2006 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

monroe is killing me!
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wandering
anybody see the fat guy wandering around?? i hope a fly ball pops em in the temple.

by pussywillows on Oct 22, 2006 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pine Tar
Rogers apparently took the pine tar off his hand, but did anyone else notice that in the 2nd inning he started touching his hat about every other pitch? There is a dark spot on the bill of his brand new world series cap...ironically the exact spot he started touching in the 2nd inning...after he cleaned his hand.

please tell me someone in the STL clubhouse can see this too!?

Pujols For MVP!

by TheFranchise9 on Oct 22, 2006 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunate Substance
Hopefully, we'll make that stuff obsolete, but if we lose there are no excuses. We've been on the receiving side of some borderline calls for once, so let's just play ball. Why is Encarnacion batting 5th again? He is killing us, swinging at everything and  watching good pitches. If I was the Gambler, I'd just keep throwing low sliders and count him as an out.  
A walk is a waste of three pitches-Bob Gibson

by orlando card on Oct 22, 2006 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

his control
was def not as good in second
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah, they won't throw him out
they should, but it won't happen.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK now

buckle down, Jeff.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my vow
Everytime the cardinals make and out I'm going to cut...

by gibbons on Oct 22, 2006 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dream isn't fooling anyone
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If indeed
it is an illegal substance, does anyone know the rule, or the requisite punishment?
A walk is a waste of three pitches-Bob Gibson

by orlando card on Oct 22, 2006 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ejection with possible suspension
similiar to using corked bat.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks
A walk is a waste of three pitches-Bob Gibson

by orlando card on Oct 22, 2006 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

trade encarnacion
to the tigers for magglio

by gibbons on Oct 22, 2006 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good grief

Get off Juancarnacion's back. That outfield is HUGE.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

huge
Attaboy miles
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well leaving so
well see how this turns out as i cant watch it, but i still think KR needs to be penalized somehow..they tossed George brett
make kenny know when to fold em

by punchinjudy on Oct 22, 2006 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why isn't Belly playing?
A walk is a waste of three pitches-Bob Gibson

by orlando card on Oct 22, 2006 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Encarnacion is an absolute waste of a roster spot
I didn't like the signing in the first place, and I don't like it now. He's below average and overpaid, doesn't hustle one bit (he friggin jogs into the close balls that Edmonds gets effortlessly), and can't hit worth a damn.

Put So out there, please.

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well $3.5 Million
doesn't buy you a good outfielder in 06.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everybody knows Juan started slow

but he's come along fine. He isn't having a good postseason but he's hardly the only one.

He lopes and it looks like he doesn't hustle, but it's just not the case.

Your impression doesn't match the facts.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought that at first
but the more i watch him the more i'm convinced that he actually doesn't hustle in the outfield, he's really slow at getting to balls

by jojo5492 on Oct 22, 2006 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That DP was bogus
no way we got the second out on that one.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1st base ump
is helping us out when Home Plate ump won't ;)

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup
Just replayed it. Looked a whole lot closer live, though.

by liam on Oct 22, 2006 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Consider it compensation

for Rogers's dirty hands in the first inning.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 won't win this one
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no kidding
After last night I assumed it would shrink back down. Apparently not the case.

by effin fisk on Oct 22, 2006 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure the Yankees...
want to know what was on Rogers' hand.

It's amazing that he was a horrible post-season pitcher and suddenly, out of nowhere, became unhittable.

It's simple. He was (is) cheating. My only question is why is he still in the game?

"Don't fail to miss tomorrow's game!" - Dizzy Dean

by jdubya on Oct 22, 2006 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come On How
We don't what was on his hand and it makes us look pretty small that we're bitching about it. Sure I'd like to know what it is/was, but at this point we simply don't know.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're paranoid
he's just pitching lights out

by Urban Pawnee on Oct 22, 2006 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I'm paranoid...
but it sure is suspicious.

Anyway, he is killing us with and without the substance.

"Don't fail to miss tomorrow's game!" - Dizzy Dean

by jdubya on Oct 22, 2006 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

guys calm down
i heard on the radio we won this game like 5..maybe 6 hours ago

by gibbons on Oct 22, 2006 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll solve him and scratch it out.

I just want Weaver to hold it together and battle like he always does.

Cmon Jeff!

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sexist
where are all the female players?

what, cause its the world series they wont let em play?

by pussywillows on Oct 22, 2006 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What I don't understand is why MLB or FOX
hasn't addressed the issue on the air as far as to what the umpires said to Rogers and what his response was.

I guess we have to wait for the in-game interviews.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i know...
they mention it and they don't mention again...

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When
average lefties shut us down, it is no wonder we struggle when we face a really good one.  
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Oct 22, 2006 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me...
or does Rogers have something hidden in/on his glove?  He keeps popping the ball in, rubbing it, wiping his fingertips off and then going to his hat.

And when he comes off the field, he's careful to hold the glove so the pocket is facing up.

It looked like Jimmy and a couple of other guys were looking over a ball in the dugout.  I think he's scuffing.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we'll know more soon
Tony's gotta be watching like a hawk. He's asked the umps to look for less than this before.

Actually, we'll probably never know, but i'm guessing that the Cards dugout is watching for stuff anyway.

by effin fisk on Oct 22, 2006 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm reminded of Major League...
and I'm wondering where the Vaseline is hidden on Rogers's uniform.

And if it's 45 degrees, why is he wearing a Cool Base jersey with the mesh underarms?

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was that pine tar????????????
im sure this was brought up somewere here but i dont want to look----  why tidnt Tony have the umpd check Rogers hand immediatly??? shit the bum washed it off

by CCERUTTI on Oct 22, 2006 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, It Isn't that Cold
You don't need to wear a ski mask.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not a ski mask

He wears that for religious reasons.

Or so I'm told.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He could be like Jimmy...
and have a jacket on under his jersey.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

That was a strike?

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Placido is not liking the cold
He's the only one on either team wearing that hoody thing.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 22, 2006 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Starting to sprinkle
maybe it'll pour down and wipe out this early deficit.

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 22, 2006 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats why....
were not facing kenny rogers were facing Steve Rogers. Steve must be a great post season pitcher..
Faith, Hope, and Budweiser 3 things every Cardinal Fan needed this season.

by cyko42 on Oct 22, 2006 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Captain America...
has one hell of a fastball, but he has control issues with his breaking ball.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weaver..
Come on, its not to late to throw a dream.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Weaver
has hit a wall, and it's only the third inning.

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's cold.
Looks to me like he doesn't have a solid grip on the breaking ball, which is why they keep missing.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
we just don't remember him, because for the past three weeks we've been introduced to the one that pitched well for Detroit.

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Albert know
the pitcher is supposed to cover first on that play?
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We escaped...
..come on Albert, show em why you're MVP!!

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm so pissed
at rogers right now.

by tnek5 on Oct 22, 2006 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why?
he is about to end his own pinetar-  ah I mmean scoreless streak.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stay positive, thread
we're in this game, we got some lumber coming up, and TWO RUNS WON'T WIN THIS GAME!!!!!
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops
I start playing Dreamweaver on my stereo and Weaver gets the out. Now I'm going to have to listen to the song over and over again every bottom half inning. My roommate is going to kill me.

by six on Oct 22, 2006 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Weaver is giving us a chance to win this game
We have to score more than 2 runs if we want to win a game.
A walk is a waste of three pitches-Bob Gibson

by orlando card on Oct 22, 2006 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not easy
when the opposing pitcher is Kenny Rogers.

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

where is ryanisforever???
we need his karma
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was lame

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad hammy
relax
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Albert needs to take the UIBBs they give him
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Home run here
watch
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

okay, that one didn't have
the distance.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

scotty
shoulda hit that a mile
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, to simplify
He cheated. Everyone knows he cheated. Don't do it again (and get caught).

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

La Russa should have come out of the dugout in the
and had him tossed.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yet no ejection?
Only a warning to clean it off?

This makes no sense to me...

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umps never actually caught it.
And they couldn't toss him based on nothing but TV.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was 90 degrees in Orlando today
I wish it was cool, maybe not 40, but 50 or 60 would be nice.
A walk is a waste of three pitches-Bob Gibson

by orlando card on Oct 22, 2006 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
have relatives that lives in Orlando... where abouts orlando?.... :-D.... btw... it was hot as hell here in Gainesville.....

by stlcardi70 on Oct 22, 2006 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok The Substance Issue
Still isn't clear even after them explaining what hte umps did.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure it is
He cheated and got away with it.

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They caught him...
but they didn't.  The umps didn't actually see it, but they saw it on TV.  Since they didn't actually see it, they can't toss him.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inky
yikes

maybe he gets one outta the infield tomorrow . . . or, you know, Tuesday or . . .

"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's friggin batting 5th
How many WS teams have automatic outs at #5?

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Better Juan than P-Dub
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, but at least he isn't
batting 2nd.

sigh If the Gooch were in this game its only 1-0.

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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he's going to run like Duncan
Why not play Duncan? His splits against lefties are unusually good.
A walk is a waste of three pitches-Bob Gibson

by orlando card on Oct 22, 2006 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Hope
He didnt forget his cup.. cuz that looked painful

by El Hombre on Oct 22, 2006 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yadi has a high voice now?
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CMON MOLINA
Good grief. We don't need him going down.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Tony was classy.
Either that, or he knows something.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

over-dove
again
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tough luck for weave and eck
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

do they allow bunting in the AL?
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

long bunt!
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a fucking group of cheaters
I can't believe what they're getting away with.

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Might as well give up the substance issue...
...if there was something to it,Rogers would be out of the game. By the time the umps were involved, his hand was clean.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

easy Bert, easy
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pujols
screwed the pooch on that one.

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No way
Alberts fault totally. You have to get 1 there; pitcher close or not.

by TICY on Oct 22, 2006 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're
hitting like they did in Game 6 against the Mets. Trying to pull everything.

When they face a soft-tosser they get too eager and try to yank everything. When they face a hard-thrower (Verlander) they KNOW they HAVE to wait back and go opposite field.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd

bases juiced with nobody out. Can't even get outs when they give 'em to us.

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

APu tries to do too much
again.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get a K here
then a DP at home to first next.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Oct 22, 2006 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HUGE
K for Weavs.

Keep Thompson OUT OF THIS GAME!!!

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

very nice, weaver
much appreciated...so far.

by rjwillia on Oct 22, 2006 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uh oh, Monroe
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT THE HECK
IS GOING ON????

JUST TUNED IN. IS KENNY REALLY GOOD?

NICE STRIKE OUT DREAM WEAVER!

HOW'S DREAM DOING?

From THE MAN, to Gibby, to The Wizard, to Albert the Great. Cardinal Tradition lives on.

by gdm426 on Oct 22, 2006 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whats going on
The gambler is rolling.
Weaver has pitched well since the first inning but hit some bad luck.
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's cheating
he was caught by FOX using pine tar and has yet to be ejected by the umps as they only warned him.

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WAIT A MINUTE,,
KENNY HAD PINE TAR AND WANSN'T THROWN OUT? HOW'S THAT HAPPEN? YOU ARE SUSPOSSED TO BE TOSSED IF CAUGHT DOCTORING THE BALL IN ANY FASHION. HOW WAS HE NOT TOSSED?
From THE MAN, to Gibby, to The Wizard, to Albert the Great. Cardinal Tradition lives on.

by gdm426 on Oct 22, 2006 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forget...
this is the world series man.  Good ratings are had by good pitchers matching up well, not with good pitchers being thrown out.  Why would Fox.. oops, I mean MLB want less viewership...  maybe i'm over-reacting...

by jerel on Oct 22, 2006 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Made A Mistake Or Two
in the first, but outside that has pitched well.

by tommyguniii on Oct 22, 2006 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful!
Weaver is such a battler.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate it
when people boo the catcher going to talk to the pitcher.

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we might just survive this yet
There were times this season I'd feel like this game is over. Not anymore. Remember those two we scored in the 9th against the Mets? The new Cardinals play a hard 9. I'm still feeling good about this game, especially with Weaver getting out of this jam!

by effin fisk on Oct 22, 2006 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow!
That was nutting up!

by ryanisforever on Oct 22, 2006 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

baller.
beautiful.

by rjwillia on Oct 22, 2006 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome
Way to battle

by RedPants on Oct 22, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was
Jefftacular!
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by Zubin on Oct 22, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why didn't Tony talk to the umps earlier?
I don't know exactly how this works, but it seems like with all the money they spend they must have someone around watching broadcast(s) for any useful info they might have with all the camera angles and commentators. There was more than enough time in the inning for someone to tell Tony and for him to confront the umps/Rogers.

I guess the upshot is that they must not have had someone watching. But if Rogers really was cheating, having him out of the game (series?) and the bulpen going 8 innings today would be a lot more satisfying than having him be told "don't do it again."

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 22, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he spoke early on in the game
umps spoke to TLR, then KR, and Leyland.

Umps warned KR to clean it off and he came off with a warning

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they hadn't confronted Rogers until
next inning when it was already gone. With what you're saying, now I'm even more confused. How does that deserve just a warning?

by BTown Birds fan on Oct 22, 2006 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, you're correct.
Tony didn't say anything until after the inning was over. When Rogers came back out he had a clean hand.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ho.
Ly. Crap.

Great pitching. PHENOMENAL pitching.

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet
Old mo' is on our side, hopefully they can do something with it.

by WichitaCardinal on Oct 22, 2006 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was Weaver's greatest performance...
...he's keeping us in it. Let's get some runs.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless Cards hit a HR...
... I have a hard time seeing this lineup manufacturing runs without a HR being hit. Spiezio's RBI propensity in the playoffs is neutralized in the No. 2 spot. They won't pitch to Pujols. That leaves Rolen to do some damage with hopefully men on base. JuanE and Wilson are pretty much automatic outs in key run producing spots and the odds aren't with Edmonds vs. ol' lefty. It's lineups like this against pitchers like Rogers that amplify the frustration of replacing capable hitters who are threats to do some damage like Sanders and Walker with the mediocrity and complete non-threats that are JuanE and Wilson... and Jockety happy to have them. Arrrrrrgh!
Baily

by Baily on Oct 22, 2006 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Rogers
If I'm managing STL, knowing that Rogers won't bat in St. Louis, I tell one of my batters to throw the bat at him on a "swing and miss". He needs to be penalized for that crap and MLB doesn't seem to have the stones to do that.
MY GOD!! THAT's ADAM WAINWRIGHT'S MUSIC!!!

by Rob Rabies on Oct 22, 2006 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on
show some class.

by TICY on Oct 22, 2006 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has he?
Because I haven't seen it.
MY GOD!! THAT's ADAM WAINWRIGHT'S MUSIC!!!

by Rob Rabies on Oct 22, 2006 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So is blatant cheating
On the biggest stage of the game. It's a disgrace.
MY GOD!! THAT's ADAM WAINWRIGHT'S MUSIC!!!

by Rob Rabies on Oct 22, 2006 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

titanic balls
from Weaver

he is the anti-Marquis....

by nota bene on Oct 22, 2006 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we should score some runs.
Someone should tell the team about my great new idea.

by RedPants on Oct 22, 2006 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all that work
needn't be done, if a)casey wasn't cheating, lowering his elbow into the pitch. b)weaver didn't get in pujols way. but props to weaver, way to get out of a huge jam.

now let's get to mr. pine tar.

by erik on Oct 22, 2006 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Enhanced Gameday
still has Granderson up.

Anymore enhanced and we'd still be waiting for the National Anthem.

The cat is fine, thank you.

by Intheway on Oct 22, 2006 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed plenty of glitches
but if you click on  "feedback," it takes you to an MLB blog that doesn't really help at all.

by effin fisk on Oct 22, 2006 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE EVERYONE
GO CARDINALS
From THE MAN, to Gibby, to The Wizard, to Albert the Great. Cardinal Tradition lives on.

by gdm426 on Oct 22, 2006 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

talk about showboat
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I swear Jimmy's nuts

but that was a great at-bat.

Why did he take all those pitches?

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi
what did he say before the first pitch? Anybody catch it?

by nota bene on Oct 22, 2006 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure it was in spanish....
 
Faith, Hope, and Budweiser 3 things every Cardinal Fan needed this season.

by cyko42 on Oct 22, 2006 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kuddos to Rooney
I wasn't feeling good about the game so i turned the tv off and went into my bedroom, turned my lights off, and turned off the radio. It worked during the Mets game when we were losing three to nothing but we ended up winning. Anyways, with the bases loaded and John Rooney calling the game I couldn't think of all the times I listened to Jack Buck. He was the best but Rooney is pretty damn good "It's a goner!" is kinda korny but it grows on ya. Anyways, just wanna say its nice to listen to the radio again!

by CCERUTTI on Oct 22, 2006 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where can u hear Rooney????
I'm stranded and can't hear anything but the ESPN radio (yeck) or FOX tv (yecker)
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like
I am happy with what i am seeing .... we are going opposite field... i will take that all day....

by stlcardi70 on Oct 22, 2006 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miles
should have leaned into that

by RedPants on Oct 22, 2006 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just joking
I think that's cheating and silly.

by RedPants on Oct 22, 2006 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cheater still doing well
That's his new name, regardless of how the game/series end up. Garbage.

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Following Edmon...I mean Edwards walk..
three hard hit balls.  Maybe next inning??

by ArkansasTravs on Oct 22, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

apparently
if one is caught with pine tar the first time, they are asked to wash it off.  If caught a second time, ejection.

Makes no sense to me whatsoever.

by cardsfan84 on Oct 22, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish they'd all work the count more

Rogers's pitch count (61) isn't as high as I'd like it to be.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How are we supposed to score runs...
...with Enc, Wilson and Miles in the line-up? That's 9 of 27 outs minimum in a batting order that also includes Molina and Eck.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they are squeezing jeff now
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We're
getting closer every inning. Weavs throws up a zero here, lineup turns over, we're up 8-9-10 runs by the bottom of the 6th.

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eck throws a RAINBOW to 1st
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how about that replay
that put eckstein in powder blue?
You either get all the glory or all the... goat hair. -mike shannon

by SleepyCA on Oct 22, 2006 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bringin the D, thanks Car Doors
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Inky had to wait for the ball
to come to a complete stop
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This game...
STINKS, absolutely STINKS like game 1 against the Mets that Weaver pitched.  Same score, same feeling.

We have time though.

by Pujols for MVP on Oct 22, 2006 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And what I mean by that is..
It's not that we are playing badly, it's that Rogers like Glavine are killing us.

by Pujols for MVP on Oct 22, 2006 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else
want to defend Encarnacion?

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was just thinking
it would be a real shame if Guillen came up with a sudden case of smallpox or something.

by glamberson on Oct 22, 2006 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What does Juan bring to the table?
No hit, no field. I give up. can someone tell me?

by Ignatius J Reilly on Oct 22, 2006 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he looks like a threat
standing still
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JEFF!!
big time
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Casey
He's going to hurt us with that inside crap (like Delgado away last series) if we don't make him look away.

by SirVLCIV on Oct 22, 2006 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dog gone it
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why throw Casey
anything but fastballs???????
"Feel my ears, Mike!" -- Jack Buck

by ITouchedMcGee on Oct 22, 2006 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least...
...it's this inning and not the last when two would have scored.

by WichitaCardinal on Oct 22, 2006 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here we go.
Right here.

Right now.

Eck and Speez on.

Alb goes yakkers all over Kenny Roger's 0.00 ERA in the postseason.

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Assuming
they give Albert something to hit, which won't happen.

In which case, Scotty goes yakkers all over Kenny Roger's 0.00 postseason ERA.

by Jhusk on Oct 22, 2006 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good AB, speez
let's get it, albert.

by rjwillia on Oct 22, 2006 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ALLIGHT ALBERT
GET A HIT DUDE. JUST TAKE HIM THE OTHER WAY. DONT TRY AND PULL IT.

GO CARDINALS

From THE MAN, to Gibby, to The Wizard, to Albert the Great. Cardinal Tradition lives on.

by gdm426 on Oct 22, 2006 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now I know he's doctoring the ball.
Did you see Pudge jump to get that foul tip out of play before the ump picked it up?  He's done that with at least 10 balls tonight.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 10:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT WAS SMOKED
TYPICAL CARDINAL LUCK IT WAS SMOKED RIGHT AT SOMEBODY
From THE MAN, to Gibby, to The Wizard, to Albert the Great. Cardinal Tradition lives on.

by gdm426 on Oct 22, 2006 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude...
how about turning the Caps Lock off occasionally?  You don't have to yell everything.

by Quietude on Oct 22, 2006 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this thread is closed
move on over to the overflow

by lboros on Oct 22, 2006 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jaun sucks
Ya gotta bench Juan even Shannon said he" took his time getting to the corner" what a waste of 15 million

by CCERUTTI on Oct 22, 2006 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where is Duncan to pinch hit here???
Why not bring him up? We've gotten lucky so far, but come on.... Righty on tbe mound, lefty bat. Prove me wrong, Yadi.

by fandomismasochism on Oct 22, 2006 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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