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gall in the family?

only one question mark remains vis-vis the cards' postseason roster. the pitching staff is set: brad thompson is out, everybody else is on. some of us would just as soon see ray king left off, but la russa is too loyal and not nearly cruel enough to dump him. as for the bench, which will comprise six players, five slots are already spoken for:

  1. diaz, c (rhb)
  2. taguchi, of (rhb)
  3. mabry, of/3b (lhb)
  4. rodriguez, of (lhb)
  5. luna, rf/2b/ss/3b (rhb)
the leading candidates for the sixth spot would appear to include:
  • scott seabol
  • mike mahoney
  • john gall
  • skip schumaker
of that group, seabol has had the most plate appearances this year (114), followed by mahoney (68), gall (38), and schumaker (20). that data alone would seem to make seabol the leading candidate. also in his favor: he can play third base, which in essence gives the cards another middle-infielder (ie, he could free up nunez to sub in at short or second if necessary); he has logged time at four positions (1b 2b 3b and of), meeting the all-important "versatility" prerequisite; he's a veteran, albeit at the minor-league level; and he has spent almost four months of this season on the st louis roster, and that too gives him somewhat of a claim on the 25th roster slot.

above all, seabol ostensibly fills an important hole on the bench, ie right-handed pop. so taguchi would be the first rh bat off the bench, but after him the only options are einar diaz and hector luna. diaz can't hit and is the only catcher on the bench; luna has hit surprisingly well (.733 ops) but is the only backup middle-infielder. they need a plain ol' bat . . . . and unfortunately, seabol doesn't have one. he is surely a better hitter than his current stat line suggests, but that line is so far below replacement level that he could improve by leaps and bounds and still suck out the wazoo. overall he's at .212, with a .288 slugging avg and a .554 ops. but he's been unimaginably bad in his second tour of duty, which began july 22 -- his ops of .366 is barely higher than his strikeout rate, .333. these are miniscule sample sizes, but they're also pretty unequivocal stats -- the guy has barely been getting the ball into play.

gall is the same type of hitter as seabol -- swings right-handed, has some pop -- and has posted similar minor-league numbers. if you factor in age, gall is easily the more promising prospect. and he has far outperformed seabol at the major-league level this season. he has nearly as many extra base hits (5 to 6) in about a third as many plate appearances; he's 4 for 13 as a pinch-hitter -- seabol is 4 for 26 -- and he has gone 5 for 16 (.313) vs left-handed pitchers and posted a 1.103 ops; seabol is 10 for 48 (.208) with a .553 ops. simply put, gall has hit the ball a lot harder than seabol. one big caveat -- he's done most of his damage against minor-league-caliber pitchers: three of his five xbh (including both homers) have come against below-replacement-level hurlers.

mike mahoney . . . .  well let's not even bother with his stats. he can catch, and the thought of getting caught short at that position terrifies managers; this alone may get his ticket punched, but i hope not.

finally there's skip schumaker, an increasingly intriguing option. he has the small-ball skills -- speed, bat-handling -- that have, of necessity, become integral to the st louis offense. he's a good defender who can play all three outfield positions. unfortunately he swings left-handed, which would leave the cards a little thin vs left-handed pitching . . . .

but does that even matter? if we play the padres, it doesn't. san diego will carry only one left-handed pitcher into the playoffs, reliever chris hammond. he's not a bad pitcher, but taguchi/luna should be enough to cover that matchup; a third rh bat isn't really necessary. moreover, small-ball skills can be useful in the padres' pitcher-friendly ballpark, whereas warning-track power (ie, gall/seabol's specialty) is decidedly useless. so if, as seems likeliest, we play the pads, put me down for skip schumaker.

if we play the phils, different story. philadelphia has two good left-handed relievers (wagner and aaron fultz) and a bad one (rheal cormier), and they may also carry a southpaw starter, eude brito, into the postseason. against them, another right-handed hitter seems necessary -- and in their park, warning-track power can go a long way. in my mind, seabol's strikeouts alone disqualify him; that leaves johnny b gall.

i kinda think, though, that la russa's going to reward seabol for being a good soldier. tony's own playing career was very similar to seabol's, and he has always had a soft spot for can't-play utility types. and he (ie tony) never got a taste of playoff baseball . . . .

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11 pitchers..
And we can't find room for Thompson? The Brad Thompson who fares better against lefties than either Ray King or Randy Flores?

We have five starters on the staff, so the six relievers are:

--Izzy-RH
--Eldred-RH
--Tavarez-RH
--King-LH
--Flores-LH
--and who?

by salvomania on Sep 26, 2005 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

al reyes
the four rh in the pen are: izzy, julian, al reyes, and eldred. the two lefties are king and flores.

on a pure performance level, i'd boot king and give his slot to thompson. on the human level, i can see how tony would not want to do that. dick williams would have done it; lou piniella would. but tony's really just a softie.

by lboros on Sep 26, 2005 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DOHHH!!!
How could I forget the most effective member of the pen??!!??

Still, it seems kind of crazy that a reliever who's given you 50+ innings of solid relief against both righties and lefties, who carries a .288 OBP against, who has a 2.5-to-1 groundball-flyball ratio, somehow doesn't seem to fit on the postseason roster.

by salvomania on Sep 26, 2005 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am with you
all the way on that; and i hope la russa finds it within himself to put the other 24 guys on the team ahead of ray king. but tony stands by his guys; it would humiliate ray to get dumped, and nobody wants to do that because he's already hurting because of his dad (dying of cancer) . . . . . . tony stands by his guys. king's roster slot is guaranteed.

nothing to do but root like hell for the guy when he's in there. i'll say this for him: he will not back down. he's got guts; you gotta admire that. what he doesn't have is the ability to get people out consistently . . . .

by lboros on Sep 26, 2005 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On one hand
I've always admired TLR for that kind of loyalty. It's rare, and I'm sure it's one reason players love playing for the Birds. On the other hand, it makes me wanna strangle him sometimes. I look at it this way--Tony's shown his loyalty all season long by letting King pitch even though he consistently loses games. It's now time to face facts and play those who produce and sit those who don't. I do understand Tony's thinking with Matty--Matty has had a bad second half, but has been nails this year too. And he's been a fixture on this team for many years. King has not. Thompson has been much better and thus should play before King. Of course friendships and family problems enter into it, but this is for all the marbles. It's the endgame. I don't see it as cruel or humiliating; I see it as a fact of life. Will King be less humiliated if he screws the pooch in a key game and goes down in Cardinal history as a failure?

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but damn. If any of us consistently failed at our jobs (and I doubt many of us make the kind of money King makes whether he produces or not), would we be rewarded for that consistent failure with an almost sure chance to blow the biggest deal of the year? Not on my planet. There's useful loyalty and there's blind loyalty. In Matty's case it's the former; in King's case it's the latter.  

by rockin redbird on Sep 26, 2005 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's one guy
who scares me more than King, and that's Jooly. I cringe every time he comes into a game. Truth be told, I'd rather see Thompson in there than him.

by cardsrul on Sep 26, 2005 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

to be real honest
i don't even rest easy when izzy comes in . . . . but yeah, hoolie's unhinged. i still think marquis might work his way into the mix .....

by lboros on Sep 26, 2005 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think
that's why TLR is planning on using Marquis in relief tomorrow night(if needed). If he looks like he can handle it, you'll see him in the pen in the playoffs.

by cardsrul on Sep 26, 2005 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RH bat off the bench
Not to mention that there's always Jason Marquis, who is a right handed bat off the bench with some power.  I'd just as soon take Schumaker, and use Marquis as a PH if he's absolutely needed

by Valatan on Sep 26, 2005 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to nitpick,
but Marquis bats lefty...

by cardsrul on Sep 26, 2005 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Way off topic...
I suggest you folks start ENJOYING the upcoming post season. I've read so many negative posts all over this site, I'm wondering if the Cardinals will ever win another game.

Lighten up, will ya? This Cubs fan wishes he had such terrible things to worry about. Instead of baseball, I'm watching shows on UPN.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Sep 26, 2005 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is what happens...
..when you know in July you're going to the post-season, and you have three months to worry.

The fact that they haven't had a "big series" in three months hasn't given us much chance to really gauge the team in a hard-core competetive mode... we've had to endure a lot of game-to-game tinkering employed by TLR not to "win" games but to "prepare" for the postseason.

by salvomania on Sep 27, 2005 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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