Game 112 Open Thread: August 8, 2005
i noted hopefully the other day that, with kevin mench's contract negotiations with the texas rangers having broken down, maybe jocketty can pick him off for cheap. well, perhaps the thinking's not entirely wishful; at least, the newark star-ledger doesn't think so:
no word on who's doing said speculating, or whether it's based on any actual information . . . . marquis-for-mench? i can see it.
as long as we're fantasizing, here's another unlikely scenario -- so unlikely, in fact, that you can imagine jocketty working the angle deep under the radar: alfonso soriano. the rangers are said to be agonizing over whether or not to retain him; he is arbitration eligible and will probably earn at least $10 million next year, and a contract of that size would clash with other organizational objectives -- upgrading the pitching staff and/or locking up mench and mark texiera with multi-year deals. he fits the profile jock professed to be looking for -- high-impact, rbi bat -- is 29 years old, and has postseason experience.
before the deadline the rangers explored deals with the mets, cubs, and marlins -- the latter of which planned to play soriano in left field, according to the fort-lauderdale sun-sentinel. presumably soriano could play there for the cards as long as the outfield remains undermanned; he could also make some starts at third base until scott rolen is ready to play. if sanders, walker, or rolen can't go in october, soriano takes his place; if all three return hale and hearty for the postseason, soriano becomes a potent pinch-hit bat and (if stl makes it to the series) a formidable DH.
after the season stl could either offer soriano arbitration and hand him the 2b job for 06; sign him to a multiyear deal; or non-tender him and spend the
money more wisely.
what would i offer to get him? the sun-sentinel reported that florida offered luis castillo and two prospects; suppose the cards dangled jason marquis and brad thompson? the rangers need pitchers . . . . maybe we toss in someone like hec luna or john gall or chris gissell, and the rangers toss in lh relief pitcher brian shouse.
the longest of shots . . . . and given the rookies' performance, perhaps jock'ty is no longer inclined. tho if he had a chance to add a 40-hr man, how could he resist?
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"If David Eckstein can hit a game-winning grand slam," notes my colleague jeff at Brew Crew Ball, "Victor Santos can beat the Cardinals."
the brewers ain't out of it yet; they are right at .500, only 4.5 games out with about 50 to play. the astros were in a much worse position this time last year and still went on to win the wild card. here's jeff again:
hey, we've seen stranger things. but let's get `em off on the wrong foot tonite.
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If y'all pick up (and keep) Soriano ... sheesh. I guess we'll be competing for the wild card for the next decade.
by jeffbcb @ Viva El Birdos on Aug 8, 2005 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
a guy can dream
brewers have an impressive group of young players, and i personally wish 'em well ---- starting thursdy ......
"comedy" central is turning out not to be not so shabby after all, eh?
Soriano & Matty
As far as tonight goes, I confess to worrying about Matty a little--the last couple of starts have been worrisome, taken as a whole...His ERA has risen from 3.1 to 3.6. Quickly. I'd love to see one of those 7+ strong tonight...
Soriano
Knowing tony, he'd do every option he could think of.
Then what about Nunez?
Overall, I just don't think it makes sense. I still believe that they should only be looking to trade for a high-impact, rbi outfielder or for some quality bullpen help. Mench might fit the definition, but could Soriano really play reasonably well in the outfield?
Re: Soriano
Mench-o-rific
Brew Crew trash talk: Weeks and Soriano are similar, neither one can field the ball better than the average Babe Ruth league 2B.
Soriano postseason
4 for 30, 11 K's against Sox ... ugh
That was a few years ago, but if he isn't hitting he sure isn't turning in solid glovework. I'd go outfield.
P.S. Good work by Flores tonight. Hope to see more of that with King sputtering.
by WillieMcGeeModelingCompany on Aug 8, 2005 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
well well...
They're starting
by rockin redbird on Aug 9, 2005 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Any word on Rolen?
hrm
Sorry for triple post
Morris
But I have no data, and this could just be wishful thinking.
by levistahl on Aug 9, 2005 9:33 AM EDT reply actions
Quick comments....
- Anybody notice that in the third inning, all four of the Brewers batters swung at the first or second pitch on Matty Mo? There is something going on there, because you make a guy who is OBVIOUSLY struggling throw strikes. Could be he's tipping pitches and they thought they knew what was coming.
- Yadi was in uniform last night, no Rolen, Sanders or Walker sightings.
- David Eckstein's pregame warm up tires me out. Geez....
Re: number 3...
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cardinals-eckstein&prov=ap&type=lgns
salvomania
2004-Road... .242/.281/.403, for a .684 OPS
2005-Road... .244/.291/.444, for a .735 OPS
Soriano is also considered one of the absolute worst fielders in all of baseball---he'd certainly be a huge contrast to Grudz at 2nd; I can't imagine he'd all of a sudden turn into a decnt defender if he were moved to left.
He turns 30 beofre next year---I say pass.
wow those are some ugly
kevin mench also has a significant split, but he hits better away than alfonso:
home 2005: 283 / 357 / 500 / 857
road 2005: 258 / 323 / 505 / 829
home 2004: 299 / 365 / 571 / 936
road 2004: 256 / 299 / 502 / 801




















