checkmate
burnett to the jays, per tuesday's toronto globe and mail:
By JEFF BLAIR
Tuesday, December 6, 2005 Posted at 3:10 AM EST
Dallas -- The Toronto Blue Jays landed their second marquee free agent of the off-season last night, agreeing to terms with right-handed pitcher A.J. Burnett on a five-year, $55-million (all figures U.S.) contract that leaves the team poised to significantly upgrade its offence.
According to major-league sources, Burnett, who was 12-12 and had a 3.44 earned-run average with the Florida Marlins last season, will receive $7-million next season, including a signing bonus, and will be paid $12-million for the next four years of the deal. The contract is pending a physical examination, which Burnett is scheduled to undergo today in Tampa.
Burnett is scheduled to arrive here in time for an afternoon news conference.
General manager J.P. Ricciardi met yesterday afternoon with Darek Braunecker, the agent for Burnett, and Mark Rodgers, Braunecker's partner and legal counsel. Sources familiar with the negotiations said that Braunecker went into the session knowing that the Blue Jays would not increase their offer and that much of the meeting was spent going over ancillary details.
The St. Louis Cardinals were said to have offered a four-year package worth $45-million, but they would only agree to a fifth year as an option. The Washington Nationals entered the picture last Sunday, but sources said Burnett's decision came down to either the Blue Jays or Cardinals.
Burnett cheered for the Cardinals as a child.
Joining the Blue Jays would reunite him with pitching coach Brad Arnsberg, who served as his mentor while they were with the Marlins.
Coupled with the signing of B.J. Ryan to a five-year, $47-million contract, the Blue Jays have set themselves up to use pitching depth -- particularly Miguel Batista -- to pursue a bat for the middle of the order.
They will talk to the Nationals about Brad Wilkerson, as well as revisiting discussions with the Milwaukee Brewers about Lyle Overbay and the Texas Rangers about Kevin Mench. ESPN reported that the Blue Jays have talked to the Philadelphia Phillies about Bobby Abreu, but that would be a cost-prohibitive move.
we are all frustrated: the cardinals came up short again, and again the team must fill its roster holes under difficult circumstances ? little trade leverage and a shriveling free-agent market. the fans need a punching bag, and walton would seem to richly deserve that honor. but keep in mind that several mainstream reporters had much the same story (based on their own sources) as walton did. just a few hours after walton?s story went up, joe strauss said on bernie?s radio show that burnett "was the cardinals? to lose"; geoff baker of the toronto star filed a story at noon yesterday describing how "word flowed through the lobby of the Wyndham Anatole Hotel ? site of baseball's annual winter meetings ? that Burnett was about to sign with the St. Louis Cardinals". granted, walton alone reported certain details ? eg, that burnett was en route to st louis for a physical ? that proved to be wrong, and he used the phrase "agreed to terms," an extremely unfortunate (and unwarranted) choice of words. but if it?s fair criticism to say that walton failed to exercise proper journalistic restraint, it?s also fair to say that anybody who accepted his report uncritically failed to read with the proper degree of skepticism ? particularly since walton?s premature renteria report in ?04 is apparently so notorious.
also in walton?s defense, something important changed on monday morning, 10 hours after he posted his article: the blue jays finally offered the guaranteed 5-year deal that burnett and his agent had sought for so long.
that changed the whole dynamic of the negotiations; if brian?s article was 80 pct true when he posted it, the blue jays? offer rendered it 0 pct true. but the offer came ex post facto; can?t blame walton for not knowing about it in advance.
like a lot of observers, i was slow to pick up on the significance of the 5th-year guarantee ? which was really stupid, since i wrote a whole post about it over the weekend. i convinced myself that the burnett team considered toronto?s offer a mere bargaining chip, something with which to wheedle a 5-year deal out of jocketty. if the cards simply wait out burnett?s bluff, i believed, their 4-year-plus-vesting-5th offer will probably suffice. i wasn?t the only one with that opinion, but it looks pretty foolish in retrospect.
i do not know brian walton, and i?m not suggesting that he should receive a free pass here. he screwed up, and hence he?s fair game. but keep it in perspective. don?t hold walton solely responsible for the fact that you had your hopes raised and then dashed. we were excited not because of what brian wrote but because we knew that as of last wednesday night the cardinals had the best offer on the table ? an advantage they held until about noon on monday ? and that burnett wanted to play in st louis. when the jays came in with a better offer, the cardinals had the chance to match it; they chose not to.
questions:
- should the cardinals have caved in and guaranteed the 5th year?
- how do they get their needs met?
if i were in charge, i would have guaranteed burnett 5 years. the way the market is going, 5 yr / $50 is not an outlandish deal. to quote myself,
insurance, per the post dispatch. in-flipping-surance. toronto's got sabermetricians calling the shots; the cards have got actuaries . . . .
nonetheless, this decision can easily be redeemed if jock makes wise use of the dollars set aside for burnett. which brings us to the second question: what would a wise use look like? i see a range of options:
- modified plan A: sign an accomplished starting pitcher, then trade marquis for an outfielder or bullpen help
- plan B: trade marquis but don?t allocate large $$$ on a fifth starter; fill the slot from within the organization or off the free-agent scrap heap
- plan C: keep marquis and buy outfielders / 2b / relievers at retail on the free-agent market
Update [2005-12-6 11:24:22 by lboros]: by the way, there is non burnett content!!! directly below, if you haven't seen it
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January 20, 1981
by Rob H on Dec 6, 2005 5:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
GOOD!!!
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FRANKLY, I'D RATHER TAKE A FLYER ON TONY ARMAS, TRADE FOR A GOOD OF, AND SEE WHAT OTHER OF/SP IS AVAILABLE COME JULY 31!!!
by TOLAXOR on Dec 6, 2005 7:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Moving on...
by sdelek on Dec 6, 2005 8:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
damn, damn, damn
I'm not sure Jock & Co. can "easily redeem" this by "making wise use of the dollars set aside for Burnett". If by "making wise use" we mean cobbling together the necessary parts to return to the playoffs, that's one thing; I have no doubt Jock and TLR can accomplish that. If by "wise use" we mean getting that final piece or two that will significantly boost our chances of postseason success - well, I don't think that's possible with what's left on the market.
The first thing I'd do now is re-sign Reggie so we only have one OF hole to fill; signing the likes of Jacque Jones after this soap opera would be even more depressing.
by DCRedbird on Dec 6, 2005 9:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And we better pray
by DCRedbird on Dec 6, 2005 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reality Check
If you are looking for a pitcher with great stuff, try looking in our own backyard. Reyes throws in the mid nineties too, and has an amazing breaking ball. His ceiling maybe isn't as high as Burnett's, but neither is his salary. A guy like Reyes with electric stuff and a 5:1 K/BB ratio career in MiLB maybe every good as Burnett this year and here on.
Last year Walt was so desperate for pitching he traded Barton and Haren for Mulder, and as it turns out Haren may be just as good as Mulder. We need to stop chasing big dollar names and look to in our own backyard.
by erik on Dec 6, 2005 9:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
you may be right, erik
by DCRedbird on Dec 6, 2005 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
reyes v burnett
i know reyes has an injury history himself, and is inexperienced, but if he doesn't pan out it isn't going to cost the cardinals millions of dollars. i just think the money/commitment was too high on a guy who is sought after for "potential".
by erik on Dec 6, 2005 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
walton
Don't savage walton, Jocketty and the cheapskate owners on the other hand...
by VanRam on Dec 6, 2005 9:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
by rockin redbird on Dec 6, 2005 9:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Burnett
Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have had him, and thus the flexibility to trade Marquis for hitting. But you can't fault a team for having standards that they stick to for long term planning.
by Robb on Dec 6, 2005 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What next?
As far as starting pitchers go: Bedard is available. Washburn and Millwood should get a look. What about a one year deal for Jamie Moyer?
Relief: Dotel, Looper, Mesa, Todd Jones.
Second base... Aurilla?
The important thing here is to move on quickly. I wish we would have gotten Burnett, but we didn't. I also think he's getting paid too much. I sure as hell don't want Jones for the kind of money the is being thrown around either, but maybe for three years $17M.
At the end of the day I trust Walt to get some players that will help this team. Why? Because he always does.
by Evil on Dec 6, 2005 10:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As the Dandy one
by cardsrul on Dec 6, 2005 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Toronto connection
A couple of years ago, I thought Milwood was hte man. I've got to look at his stats; he might be the type of guy Duncan could work magic with.
by sdrone on Dec 6, 2005 10:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind Millwood
by Matt on Dec 6, 2005 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto
For all the people wondering "how anyone can want to live/play in Toronto" I suggest a visit. The place is MUCH more cosmopolitain than St. Louis (not too hard to be) and in fact was labeled "the world's most diverse city" by the UN a few years back. It has a vibrant scene that caters more to a wild boy (I'm assuming) like Burnett than the Lou. A shift from the sexy nightspots of Miami to the hopping clubs of Toronto won't that much of a change for him. Forgoing those clubs in favor of what St. Louis has to offer, in terms of flash and dash, would be a sacrifice Mr. Tattoos and Piercings perhaps didn't feel was worth the extra $$$$$ he would give up to play in St. Louis. Not everyone deems "playing close to home" as ultra-important.
But what do I know, maybe the guy stays home each night and plays XBox. He might not even know or care what city he's in.
by flynn on Dec 6, 2005 11:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i agree
by lboros on Dec 6, 2005 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto
by levistahl on Dec 6, 2005 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto
by rockin redbird on Dec 6, 2005 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All very nice...
by sdrone on Dec 6, 2005 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
True,
by flynn on Dec 6, 2005 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dontrelle Willis?
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-sbyanks064541230dec06,0,1675289.story
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While the cost-cutting Marlins still are refusing to lower their asking price of Robinson Cano for Juan Pierre, they have begun to tell teams that every player on their roster - including Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera - is available for the right price.
The Yankees threw out the names of Cano and Chien-Ming Wang in passing as possibilities for Willis, the Marlins' dynamic lefthander, but the Marlins told them it would take a lot more than that, according to a person familiar with the negotiations.
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If you really wanted to bet the farm on next year, would Reyes, Wainwright, and something else be enough to get them interested? We're kind of short on cheap young talent (except Molina) so I don't know if we have enough to land him or not, but idle speculation is always fun.
by mikedallas23 on Dec 6, 2005 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
it's a fantasy
by lboros on Dec 6, 2005 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Fish
by cardsrul on Dec 6, 2005 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Money
by Rob H on Dec 6, 2005 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
willis and cabrera
by lboros on Dec 6, 2005 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does it strike anyone else as telling that . . .
If these guys were anything close to high quality quality players, there is no way the Yankees would be dangling them as trade bait.
by bailorg on Dec 6, 2005 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
quite the opposite
It's just that Willis -- given his age, low salary and obvious talent -- is darned close to being the single most valuable pitcher in baseball to have on your roster. Thus, the willingness to trade Brian Gunn for him, though we'd do so hoping we could re-sign Brian as a free agent in a couple of years.
by DCGreg on Dec 6, 2005 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not pooh-pooh the cost
They guy has pitched in the majors six full years and has a record of 49-50. Not only is his record weak, consider those 99 decisions should be more like 145 decisions (24-25/year) for a healthy pitcher. The guy is not durable, and a flamethrower that doesn't throw isn't worth a bucket of spit.
Let's stop treating this guy like he is Roy Oswalt. There are others.
by Red in Chicago on Dec 6, 2005 11:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Others?
by flynn on Dec 6, 2005 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd send them Daric Barton again...
by Red in Chicago on Dec 6, 2005 11:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
...but not Brian Gunn...
by Red in Chicago on Dec 6, 2005 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey,
by briangunn on Dec 6, 2005 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way...
by briangunn on Dec 6, 2005 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a reasonable point
also, hampton was trying to pitch in coors field. . . .
i think darren dreifort is the most applicable analog for what a burnett disaster might look like.
by lboros on Dec 6, 2005 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hampton
by briangunn on Dec 6, 2005 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, got it
by lboros on Dec 7, 2005 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not so fast
by john vb on Dec 6, 2005 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if
Don Larsen (972)
Gary Gentry (971)
Ruben Gomez (970)
Jose Guzman (969)
Walt Terrell (967)
Joaquin Andujar (967)
Steve Renko (965)
Chuck Estrada (964)
Joe Sparma (963)
Erik Hanson (962)
Larsen is famous for the perfect game in the World Series, but his overall career was pretty average. Joaquin Andujar we all know 'round here.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that perhaps AJ's potential ain't that much, either, though you can definitely take this as a sour grapes post too!
by matty fred on Dec 6, 2005 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
NOW
by VanRam on Dec 6, 2005 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well sure
by STLEdge on Dec 6, 2005 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Rocket
by Retire 51 on Dec 6, 2005 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've heard
by Alxfritz on Dec 7, 2005 1:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs





















