cards sign juan encarnacion
3 years / $15m. just announced on bernie miklasz's radio show. my knee-jerk is: dumb move. more to come.
Update [2005-12-23 9:19:22 by lboros]: encarnacion will turn 30 in march. he had a career year last season: .287 avg was two points off his career high (19 pts above career avg); .349 obp beat his prev career best by 19 points (and 33 pts above career avg); .447 slugging was his 3d best mark, close to his career avg.
his .796 ops in 2005 was juan's career high, 33 points better than his previous best. his career ops is .756.
.796 ops is a career year. man, this is a waste of money.
encarnac'n does, however, replace grud'k vis-vis long-last-name ability.
Update [2005-12-23 9:28:34 by lboros]: encarnacion has played most of his career in pitcher's parks (florida, los angeles, det), but unfortunately his splits do not reveal him to be a pronouncedly better "away" hitter. in fact, last year he hit much better in pro player than he did in other parks.
nor does he have a good platoon split --- his ops last year vs lefties was a healthy .866, but the previous two years he posted .600 and .736 against lefties.
Update [2005-12-23 9:41:48 by lboros]: juancion's VORP last year was 28.3, about what grud'ks was last year (23.1). that long-last-name thing again. walker and sanders both had comparable VORPs (29.1 and 27.5, resp'vly) but they only played half-seasons. so this guy is worth 1/2 one of those guys . . . . and remember, last year was juancion's best year.
other VORP comps of interest: jason lane (28.2), kevin mench (23.7), brad wilkerson (22.1), jacque jones (17.7), jeromy burnitz (17.5), so taguchi (15.2). . . . . baseball prospectus' rate2 puts him at a few runs below avg as a rightfielder.
per win shares, he ranked 19th among nat'l league outfielders with 19 --- 17.8 hitting, 1.6 fielding. similar win-sharers at his position included colorado's matt holiday (19), moises alou (20), geoff jenkins (22), luis gonzalez (22), junior (22), and wilkerson (23). just below him were jose guillen (18), shawn green (18), burnitz <17), klesko (17), ken lofton (16), and jason lane (15).
Update [2005-12-23 9:47:2 by lboros]: his list of comparables at baseball-ref'nce is interesting but not nec'ssly encouraging. lotta former redbirds. #1 is sixto lezcano. but these guys aren't really very similar. sixto's career on-base was .360; juancion's is .316. in his lone year as a card, sixto put up a .376 obp.
#5 is george hendrick, one of my all-time fav?ite cards ? but here too the comparison doesn?t hold. silent george posted pos+ figures above 100 (ie, above league avg) for 12 consec years between age 23 and age 34. his high ops + was 144; his low 107. juancion has only cracked the 100 barrier twice in seven years as a regular ? 113 last year, 101 in 2003. he has been been in the low 80s, which is a truly disastrous score, three times in 7 years.
comp #6 is andy van slyke --- also not similar. slick had a .349 career obp, and his lowest ops+ was above 100 in ops+ in 10 of 11 years between 22 and 32; low ops+ was 96.
i'm through for now. i'm disgusted. this acquisition sucks.
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good googly moogly
Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!
by mikedallas23 @ Viva El Birdos on Dec 23, 2005 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
ok
Personally, I would have preferred Matt Lawton. But I did like Encarnacion over Jacque Jones. I didnt want to trade Marquis.
So outside of Lawton who is a better option?
How about
- .263
- .265
- .245
- .279
- .274
- .299
- .270
- .297
by mikedallas23 @ Viva El Birdos on Dec 23, 2005 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
jeromy burnitz
kenny lofton --- .392 obp last year / .373 career obp. signed for one year / $3.5m. better player, less money --- better option. i dislike lofton, but that's my own problem . . . .
platoon of taguchi / rodriguez --- would prob'y hit slightly below league avg, slightly worse than juancion, but would cost $3.5m less. better option
so they've spent $5m on a guy who barely improves the team over the platoon (gooch / jrod) they already had. that's a waste of $5m.
those are better options even without trading a pitcher. if we allow for a trade, there are a whole range of better options to go after --- jason michaels, mench, wilkerson off the top o me head.
but the gist of the argument is --- you don't have to spend $5m for a guy of this ability. if you pay a guy $5m, he should be an upgrade over the $1m players on your roster. encarnacion isn't.
i don't know
Gooch and Rodriguez were safe bets for .750 OPS'
by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 23, 2005 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
the line that says it all
Please tell me this isn't happening.
Status
by nimbus74 on Dec 23, 2005 10:01 AM EST reply actions
I really don't get
Salary
DeWitt should be happy with that.
next year
by Just Rope Ball on Dec 23, 2005 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
a big boost
by cards4ever on Dec 23, 2005 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Ehhh
by scootermcgrew on Dec 23, 2005 10:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Is he really that bad?
P.S. We didn't have to give up a draft pick. The Marlins didn't offer him arbitration... This is MUCH better than Hunter...
but smart organizations don't pay
The problem is...
Everyone is so high on Lawton, but what do we know about him? 1. He has had decent career OBP numbers and they were above .350 last year (look at his combined numbers, not just pits). 2. He will be 34 next year and he hasn't been that good in OPS the last 5 years(.750, .787, .763, .741, .718). 3. He's going to serve a 10 game suspension for being caught using steroids.
He says that he "only used them to get over an injury". What if he isn't? What if he's really a .700 OPS guy on steroids all these years? What if he's a guy that gets injured a lot, but uses steroids to stay healthy? Sometimes numbers don't tell the whole story...
Rafael Palmeiro
The money
I will give him a chance. We need a good #6, #7 hitter like him.
by wcheuk on Dec 23, 2005 10:56 AM EST reply actions
damn guys, chill out!!
by cards4ever on Dec 23, 2005 11:03 AM EST reply actions
Not a bad lineup...
Edmonds (L)... .900 ops? (career .927, .918 in '05)
Pujols (R).... 1.040 ops? (career 1.037, 1.039 in '05)
Rolen (R)... .820 ops? (career .890, .706 in '05, 1.007 in '04, .910 in '03)
Rodriguez (L)... .780 ops? (.818 in '05/career)
Encarnacion (R)... .780 ops? (.756 career, .796 in '05)
Luna (R).... .740 ops? (.706 career, .753 in '05)
Molina (R)... .690 ops? (.662 career, .653 in '05)
Only 1 guy up there had an OPS below .750 in '2005 (not including the injured Rolen) and that was our young, still-developing-as-a-hitter catcher.
I'm not sure any other team in the NL can say that about their projected starting eight....
i dont think luna will be the 2b
by cards4ever on Dec 23, 2005 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Strictly anecdotal
i move luna or our new 2b
by cards4ever on Dec 23, 2005 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, you're right...
No reaction yet...
Sixto Leczano
What's Next?
If Jocketty still has a trade up his sleeve, I'd be pretty excited about Edmonds, Encarcion, Mench outfield.
i do not want to see mench here
by cards4ever on Dec 23, 2005 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
With
JUAN BETTER THAN LAWTON
THE BAD PART OF THIS IS THE 3 YEAR DEAL, BUT AT $5 MILLION A YEAR, HE'S EASILY TRADED...
i know you don't like lawton
I still say
stats
I would like to see how accurate they are each season when it comes to their projections and actual output.
Personally, I didnt want to see Reggie Sanders anymore. I will guarantee here that at the end of 2006 Juan Encarnacion will have better numbers than Reggie Sanders...Im talking total numbers.
Is Juan great no? But Im guessing if he sits versus the toughest righties and JRod plays then Im guessing his numbers will be better. Tony is the master of "matchups" so I would be surprised if Juan's numbers dont improve.
Aww Man, Bingo
Give me Johnny Rod or give me death,
I'm just going to hope for the best.



















