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non tenders (work in progress) --- lohse offered arbitration

we've dodged the jacque jones bullet --- he signed with the cubs for 3 years / $16m. thank god.

rotoworld reports:

joe borowski was dfa'd; he'll be available

the cubs tendered all their arb-eligibles, including corey patterson

the padres nontendered four players: rhp drew brazleton, lhp craig breslow, and cs dave ross and pete laforest.

the reds nontendered rhps ramon ortiz and joe valentine. ortiz is a significant nontender; he made 30 starts for them in 2005 and went 9-11 with a 5.36 era. he won 44 games between 2001-2003. i wouldn't want the cards to chase him, but somebody will.

i will update as possible; if you see anything, put it in the comments.

Update [2005-12-20 20:46:2 by lboros]: mets nontendered rhp tyler yates and of wayne lydon.

boston nontendered rhps chad bradford and wade miller. expect the cardinals to go after miller.

twins nontendered rhp grant balfour.

oakland nontendered of hiram bocachia.

Update [2005-12-20 23:49:34 by lboros]: keep reading below the fold . . . .

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Update [2005-12-20 23:49:34 by lboros]: the yankees got johnny damon for 4 years / $13m. that's actually not such a terrible contract . . .

the nontenders from los angeles: 3b mike edwards, 1b brian myrow, c jason phillips. who the hell are these people . . . . la did offer a contract to hee sop choi, a much-rumored non-tender candidate

milwaukee nontendered two rhps, jeff bennett and dan kolb. god only knows what happened to kolb; he stunk in april (7.20 era) and september (.500 opp avg) and just about ev'y month in between. the brewers signed 3b russell branyan to a 1-yr deal.

seattle apparently offered a contract to pitcher gil meche; he does not appear on their nontender list, which consists of rhps ryan franklin and cha baek and outfielder jamal strong.

the twins offered a contract to rhp kyle lohse, in whom the cards had consid'able interest. that leaves wade miler as the only attractive addition to the crop of free-agent starting pitchers . . . . minnesota also tendered nick punto and michael cuddyer.

Update [2005-12-21 0:41:3 by lboros]: chisox 2b willie harris to be non-tendered. i would love to see the cards throw $1m at him, but he wants to play ev'yday and may deem the stl 2b situation too competitive. former card playoff killer timo perez also let go by the sox . . . .

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free agents or trade possibilities..
better than jacque jones

rondell white (97gms/12hr/53rbi/.313ba/.837ops)
matt lawton (13hr/53rbi/18sb/.254ba/.752ops)
richard hidalgo? (88gms/16hr/43rbi/.221ba/.705ops
jeromy burnitz (24hr/87rbi/.258ba/.757ops)
preston wilson (25hr/90rbi/.260ba/.792ops)
juan encarnacion (16hr/76rbi/.287ba/.796ops)
craig wilson (59gms/5hr/22rbi/.264ba/.808ops)
jason michaels (105gms/4hr/31rbi/.304ba/.814ops)
craig monroe (20hr/89rbi/.277ba/.768ops)
bobby abreu (24hr/102rbi/31sb/.286ba/.879ops)

bring home a championship to STL

by cards4ever on Dec 20, 2005 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

hmm...
I'd like Michaels, Monroe, C Wilson. But I'm thinking more and more it's gonna be JRod, Bigbie, Taguchi, Gall. Strangly, I can see myself living with that. For now.

Preston Wilson wouldn't kill me. But he wouldn't excite me either.

by erik on Dec 20, 2005 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

add..
Aubrey Huff (28yr/22hr/92rbi/.261ba/.749ops)
Shawn Green (22hr/73rbi/.286ba/.832ops but owed 8M('06), 9.5M('07) and 10M-option('08) plus NTC)
Luis Gonzalez (24hr/79rbi/.271ba/.825ops but owed 11.5M in '06 - one year fill in for futher development of minor leaguers)
Reed Johnson-TOR (8hr/58rbi/.269ba/.749ops plus only 1.425M)

Green and Gonzo are getting up there in age and I am not sure if ARZ is shopping them, but I thought I heard they have extras.  

None of the guys on either list really spark my interest, but if someone could be had for cheap?

I'd set my sights on Michaels

by Just Rope Ball on Dec 20, 2005 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

ok that list is narrowe
white-hurt alot, lawton tested positive for roids, hidalog one of those potential guys..abreau how old is he? burnitz-um no..to be honest im not crazy about anyone on that list including jones

by punchinjudy on Dec 20, 2005 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

well jones is off the list
good we got the cubs to waste three years on jacque--he has signed with the cubs
bring home a championship to STL

by cards4ever on Dec 20, 2005 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

i think...
craig monroe or jason michaels have the most potential out of all those guys and we shoild go after one of them---if we have to go the free agent way, i would go with white or wilson or encarnacion
bring home a championship to STL

by cards4ever on Dec 20, 2005 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

P.W.
I'm keen on Preston Wilson.  IMO the best option among what is left of the FAs.  
matty fred is a web log.

by matty fred on Dec 20, 2005 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i would probably...
have to shoot someone if it is jrod, guch, gall, and bigbie. if that is it where is this 10.2 million going to go
bring home a championship to STL

by cards4ever on Dec 20, 2005 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Yes!
Seeing the Flubs take Jones does my heart almost as much good as a big signing for us. I was starting to think he'd end up a Bird. Whew!

by rockin redbird on Dec 20, 2005 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Though this
isn't a big signing for (or is it?), at least we know Walt has a helluva lot better horse-sense than Jim Hendry. THREE YEARS! Even better than I could have hoped.

by rockin redbird on Dec 20, 2005 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

that's supposed to read
"a big signing for us. D'oh! Makes me so happy I can't write.

by rockin redbird on Dec 20, 2005 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey RR...
looks like Christmas came early, huh?

by cardsrul on Dec 20, 2005 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Ho Ho Ho...
and a Merry one to you, Cardsrul :-) Now, if Walt can turn some of this goodwill into a coupla good moves for us as well--why, I think I'll have a Happy New Year too.

by rockin redbird on Dec 20, 2005 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Michaels
At the risk of overstating the importance of character, I'm sure how much I want a guy who's punching police officers at 3 a.m.
DCGreg

by DCGreg on Dec 20, 2005 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

If you can bear it....
track down the commentary on Michaels', um, sex habits, found on On the DL.  Not exactly a role model for, actually, anyone....

by flynn on Dec 20, 2005 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny how
we can take such pleasure at a free-agent signing by a club we don't root for!  (I'll admit, I'm with the majority here... I didn't wanna see the Cards sign Jones either!)

by The Ol Goaler on Dec 20, 2005 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Jones
I don't think this is as bad of a signing by the small bears as everyone else.  I think he'll have a good year and hurt us.  Then again, I'm not exactly hurt that Jock didn't sign him.

by Zubin on Dec 20, 2005 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

he'll see a lot of
ricky rincon and randy flores . . . .

by lboros on Dec 20, 2005 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

what a lame list
not a lot of new options there. I'll take the two ex Red Sox. Bradford is fun to watch and still could be an effective ROOGY, but he's not what he used to be.

Miller may not be able to offer much until 07

JD is going to look weird in Pinstripes.

by erik on Dec 21, 2005 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

I guess Captain Caveman
will have to get a haircut now that Steinbrenner signs his paycheck.

I like the idea of Wade Miller for $1.5 million, but  I'm thinking that more and more clubs are liking this idea as well.  The way the SP market has played out, I wouldn't be surprised if eventually he signs for an amount much higher than previously expected -- maybe a one year deal but incentive-laden in such a way that it would pay out $3-$6 million?

matty fred is a web log.

by matty fred on Dec 21, 2005 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree w you
no bargains in this market

by lboros on Dec 21, 2005 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

With Jesus
in NYC, do the Sawx make a push for Coco now?

by cardsrul on Dec 21, 2005 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

Wonder if the Sawx have called Walt...
to see if Jed's available.

Nahhh.... if'n they had, we'da heard Jock laughin' by now... ;-)

by The Ol Goaler on Dec 21, 2005 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Non-Tenders
 I think Eric Byrnes would be a nice fit.  He's the type of player who fans love because he gives everything he has, especially on defense.  He put up decent #'s while in Oakland and I think he could do the same here.  I wouldn't be surprised if Walt signed one or two of the non-tendered to fill out the bullpen.

 I would be very happy if we could swing a deal for Jose Contreras.  Jon Garland is another finesse pitcher and we already have 3 of those on our staff.  Finesse guys won't get it done in the playoffs.  Contreras pitched very well in 2005 for the White Sox, especially in the playoffs and World Series.  The Vazquez deal falling apart devastated me but if we could add Contreras' power arm to the equation I'd get happy pretty quickly.  Please give us this one wish...Christmas is right around the corner.

by I Bleed Cardinal Red on Dec 21, 2005 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

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